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| 03:47.58 | Snake12534 | ricochet nation has been released and is up and running, it is one of the ten battlefield maps for the RPG |
| 03:48.18 | Snake12534 | go check it out ;) |
| 03:49.31 | JeffM_ | screenshots? |
| 03:50.13 | Snake12534 | orrrrr you can go on bzflag and join right now :D |
| 03:50.43 | JeffM_ | screenshots |
| 03:51.13 | JeffM_ | I don't just connect to any random old server |
| 03:51.34 | JeffM_ | that and this client won't conect to standard TCP based clients |
| 03:52.14 | Snake12534 | ok |
| 03:52.36 | JeffM_ | UDP for life fo shizzle! |
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| 04:12.28 | Grommet | hello, I am trying to play bzflag but I have 2 monitors and the game opens spread across both of them. how can I make it open on only one of my monitors? |
| 04:14.29 | Grommet | o I think I found out how |
| 04:16.42 | JeffM_ | that's all up to your video driver |
| 04:20.18 | Grommet | I found I can do bzflag -window 1920X1080 and work as I want it |
| 04:20.45 | Grommet | well with a little x |
| 04:20.53 | Grommet | if I use the big x than don't worked |
| 04:21.05 | JeffM_ | that can be a pain if you click out of the window |
| 04:21.19 | JeffM_ | usualy you can setup your video driver to only do fullscreen on one display |
| 04:21.22 | JeffM_ | you are on linux? |
| 04:22.10 | Grommet | ya |
| 04:22.44 | JeffM_ | then it'd be part of your X config, what resolutions are setup in the configs |
| 04:23.00 | JeffM_ | different drivers handle it better and worse |
| 04:24.19 | Snake12534 | anyone know the link or in game command for all the admin commands? |
| 04:24.34 | JeffM_ | the wiki |
| 04:25.07 | Snake12534 | yeah I tried that :p |
| 04:25.22 | JeffM_ | they are listed there |
| 04:25.30 | JeffM_ | you just have to search for htem |
| 04:25.34 | JeffM_ | they are not called "Admin commands" |
| 04:25.46 | JeffM_ | because bzflag dosn't know what an "admin" is |
| 04:25.55 | JeffM_ | that's set by the permissions of the server owner |
| 04:26.41 | JeffM_ | I found the list quite easaly |
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| 04:33.42 | JeffM_ | snake12534_ you probalby want to invest in a real IRC client if you are going to learn how to program |
| 04:42.36 | Snake12534_ | haha good one :) |
| 04:42.45 | Snake12534_ | I use webchat.freenode.net |
| 04:44.58 | JeffM_ | that isn't a good one |
| 04:45.12 | JeffM_ | you should run your own client on your computer, so you don't disconect all the time |
| 04:45.15 | JeffM_ | not use a web page |
| 04:46.57 | Snake12534_ | I think I'll stick to this one for now |
| 04:48.01 | allejo | ban all the webchat! |
| 04:48.21 | allejo | or you could always just be freenode staff and k-line the entire thing :p |
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| 04:49.25 | JeffM_ | it's usefull for people asking for help the first time, but it's not a long term solution |
| 05:37.59 | apeman | is there a service where you can get all the chat but not have PC on 24/7? |
| 05:41.56 | Delusional | look at the welcome message for this channel |
| 05:46.12 | JeffM_ | apeman, yeah logs like Delusional says, or use a command line IRC client that runs on a server somewhere and you just remote into it |
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| 06:59.14 | Snake12534 | Who here wouldn't mind hosting 10 servers for me? |
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| 07:43.29 | Snake12534 | Has anyone tried the iOS app for IRC? |
| 07:46.11 | khazhyk` | i think there's moer than one ios app for irc |
| 07:47.13 | Snake12534 | i have the mango lite |
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| 08:03.37 | Snake12534 | May I see a simple plugin? I want to see how it is done |
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| 08:29.13 | allejo | does he not realize that plugins are released on the forums typically..? |
| 08:30.15 | ashvala | what did I miss? |
| 08:31.57 | allejo | --> Snake12534 (~Snake1253@adsl-108-94-2-144.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bzflag |
| 08:31.57 | allejo | <Snake12534> May I see a simple plugin? I want to see how it is done |
| 08:32.16 | ashvala | heh |
| 08:32.38 | allejo | you would think even he the forum marked "plug-in releases" would be an ideal location to look in |
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| 08:40.17 | Snake12534 | I am looking for anyone who can create plug ins for help please |
| 08:42.02 | Snake12534 | https://github.com/Snake12534/bzflagRPG |
| 08:46.27 | allejo | ... |
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| 08:46.37 | allejo | Snake12534, learn yourself |
| 08:46.48 | Snake12534 | allejo |
| 08:46.52 | allejo | http://allejo.me/misc/bzflag-plugin-starter/ |
| 08:47.01 | allejo | that'll get you started on the skeleton of the plugin |
| 08:47.08 | allejo | wiki.bzflag.org/Functions(API) |
| 08:47.23 | allejo | http://wiki.bzflag.org/Event(API) |
| 08:47.26 | allejo | all the documentation |
| 08:48.13 | Snake12534 | ok. but i am asking for help |
| 08:48.28 | Snake12534 | as in, what are most plugins coded in? |
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| 08:51.54 | allejo | everything is coded in C++ |
| 08:52.10 | allejo | you know where my github page is. most of my plugins are open source therefore hosted there |
| 08:52.26 | ashvala | you've also forked the leagueoverseer plugin. :p |
| 08:53.00 | Snake12534 | my forks arent useful i havent learned all of cpp yet |
| 08:53.25 | Snake12534 | does bzf support ROBOTC? |
| 08:54.06 | Snake12534 | and to bzf developers: I am planning to use a /command to access data and a "shop" |
| 08:54.36 | Snake12534 | is that possible? i see it as an alternative to gui |
| 08:58.02 | allejo | no other language aside C++ is supported for plugins |
| 08:58.23 | allejo | there have been some attempts for python but that project died and probably won't work any more |
| 08:58.35 | allejo | and yes, a slash command would be the only way to go |
| 09:01.01 | Snake12534 | i assume i can create a command that can open a shop written in text which another command can buy those items and |
| 09:01.08 | Snake12534 | oh wait |
| 09:01.21 | Snake12534 | is it possible to modify a superflag? |
| 09:02.01 | allejo | you can't modify a superflag but you can create your own with some limitations |
| 09:02.22 | Snake12534 | ooh creating my own |
| 09:02.42 | Snake12534 | i assume that requires another plugin? |
| 09:03.29 | Snake12534 | the thing is, i want to attempt this rpg but dont want it to be written than realize bzf cant support it |
| 09:03.38 | allejo | a plugin can create more than one flag |
| 09:03.56 | allejo | for example, planet mofo has a lot of custom flags. each one is their own plugin for sanity purposes |
| 09:04.06 | Snake12534 | sh |
| 09:04.11 | Snake12534 | ah |
| 09:04.23 | allejo | well ask your questions and someone here will tell you if it's possible or not |
| 09:04.30 | Snake12534 | may i see the plugin for their flags |
| 09:04.44 | Snake12534 | thats what im doing ^^ |
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| 09:06.40 | Snake12534 | hi |
| 09:06.52 | Snake12534 | are you a bzf developer? |
| 09:08.50 | allejo | mofo's custom flags are closed source unfortunately |
| 09:09.00 | allejo | but the bzflag source does have a sample flag |
| 09:09.03 | allejo | look at those |
| 09:09.07 | allejo | at that one* |
| 09:09.35 | allejo | https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag-import-3/blob/v2_4_x/plugins/customflagsample/customflagsample.cpp |
| 09:11.11 | Snake12534 | merry christmas btw |
| 09:11.36 | Snake12534 | why is it so hard to write a plugin yet alone read it :/ |
| 09:15.31 | apeman | mofo's double point flag was released |
| 09:17.43 | Snake12534 | mofo is the megamind of plugins in bzf |
| 09:17.58 | Snake12534 | its sad most of it is private |
| 09:18.23 | Snake12534 | oh apeman, ive been looking for chapter 4 to the cpp book ;) |
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| 09:20.37 | allejo | it's not that hard to write a plugin, Snake12534 |
| 09:21.41 | Snake12534 | it is for me, i need someone there physically to help me |
| 09:22.01 | Snake12534 | i dont understand what to type and when to type |
| 09:22.12 | Snake12534 | i can read most code |
| 09:22.38 | ashvala_ | you only learn by trying. :p |
| 09:23.35 | Snake12534 | ofc problem is what do i type? xD |
| 09:25.01 | ashvala | you've read the code before - notice the patterns and figure out what to type where... |
| 09:25.46 | Snake12534 | how do you start off a data plugin then |
| 09:29.32 | allejo | learn how to store data |
| 09:29.39 | allejo | using structs, maps, and arrays |
| 09:29.53 | allejo | leagueOverSeer uses a struct currently |
| 09:29.58 | allejo | connectionsPerIP uses a map |
| 09:30.07 | allejo | both my plugins |
| 09:30.47 | Snake12534 | i said youdfffvd |
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| 09:33.23 | allejo | I youdfffvd |
| 09:33.25 | allejo | wut |
| 09:33.31 | allejo | ~define youdfffvd |
| 09:33.31 | infobot | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 09:33.41 | allejo | ~dict youdfffvd |
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| 18:01.46 | Notify | 03BZFlag:74.71.16.251 * 8753 /Getting_Started: /* Mac OSX */ |
| 18:02.28 | echelon | k, playing on a gamepad w/ joystick is nice and all, but the bug that doesn't let you stop moving ruins it |
| 18:03.32 | echelon | i know you can fix it by pressing the arrow keys in the direction you're moving in, but it's a distraction |
| 18:03.38 | echelon | and it sucks when you're on and edge |
| 18:04.28 | JeffM | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.39 | echelon | JeffM: pardon? |
| 18:24.31 | JeffM | most joysticks can set a dead zone, this prevents them from always getting small inputs when the stick/pad is at the center |
| 18:24.43 | JeffM | usualy that's the cause of that kind of problem |
| 18:25.09 | JeffM | the mechanicals don't always center the stick perfectly so you give it some fudge room in the driver |
| 18:25.58 | echelon | ah :/ |
| 18:26.09 | echelon | i dunno how to do it |
| 18:26.20 | JeffM | what OS are you on? |
| 18:26.25 | echelon | linux |
| 18:26.31 | JeffM | then you are on your own :) |
| 18:26.36 | echelon | :/ |
| 18:26.50 | echelon | it's just a generic chinamart gamepad |
| 18:27.05 | JeffM | does it have an analog stick or just a dpad? |
| 18:27.17 | echelon | both |
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| 18:27.36 | JeffM | what ones does it use for the X and Y axes in bzflag? |
| 18:27.38 | echelon | i mean it has a button to turn on analog |
| 18:27.48 | JeffM | ahh |
| 18:27.56 | JeffM | have you tried using that? |
| 18:28.18 | echelon | i always have it on |
| 18:28.31 | echelon | but blast007 said you can't use slow motion with analog off |
| 18:28.54 | JeffM | yeah analog off means that any motion is always full speed |
| 18:29.02 | JeffM | analog lets you move at fractional speeds |
| 18:29.06 | JeffM | it's better |
| 18:29.15 | echelon | oh |
| 18:29.18 | JeffM | did the driver have any kind of calibration? |
| 18:29.31 | JeffM | that's usualy how you setup dead zones and limits |
| 18:29.46 | echelon | i haven't even checked which driver it uses, i just plugged it in and it worked |
| 18:30.02 | JeffM | heh |
| 18:30.09 | JeffM | yeah you probably need to calibrate it |
| 18:30.14 | echelon | kk |
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| 18:30.20 | echelon | thanks |
| 18:30.22 | JeffM | sure |
| 18:31.00 | echelon | also, now that my account has been unfrozen i can request a group i-flag? |
| 18:31.25 | JeffM | on IRC? |
| 18:31.30 | echelon | yeah |
| 18:31.43 | JeffM | possibly, I don't know who's running those now |
| 18:31.50 | echelon | oh |
| 18:31.52 | JeffM | I ain't a member of the "org" anymore |
| 18:32.12 | JeffM | a member has to request it from a freenode staffer |
| 18:32.16 | JeffM | it's all very manual |
| 18:32.29 | echelon | ok |
| 18:33.01 | JeffM | I know tim is in the org, blast007 may also be but I don't know for sure |
| 18:33.25 | echelon | kk cool |
| 18:34.14 | JeffM | tho oddly I still have access to the spreadsheet that tracks who's requested cloaks for bzflag ;) |
| 18:35.30 | echelon | ^_^ |
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| 20:23.13 | apeman | im compiling bzflag on fedora, which Makefile.am would i add these flags "-lX11 -ldl -lXext" to compile the client with? |
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| 20:30.50 | Patlabor221 | apeman, you should not have to do anything special |
| 20:30.58 | Patlabor221 | just run configure and then make |
| 20:34.09 | apeman | when i compile normally i get |
| 20:34.10 | apeman | /usr/bin/ld: ../platform/.libs/libPlatform.a(XWindow.o): undefined reference to symbol 'XGetWindowAttributes' |
| 20:34.10 | apeman | /usr/bin/ld: note: 'XGetWindowAttributes' is defined in DSO /lib/libX11.so.6 so try adding it to the linker command line |
| 20:35.05 | Patlabor221 | do you have sdl installed? |
| 20:35.33 | Patlabor221 | that sounds like it's trying to build using the old native X11 stuff |
| 20:35.34 | apeman | yes, i ran the yum install depencies listed in README.Linux fedora |
| 20:35.35 | Patlabor221 | and you don't want that |
| 20:35.39 | Patlabor221 | that may be old |
| 20:35.45 | Patlabor221 | do you have SDL dev package installed? |
| 20:36.49 | Patlabor221 | and are you building from git or from a tarbal? |
| 20:36.50 | apeman | SDL and SDL-devel yes |
| 20:37.02 | apeman | git |
| 20:37.09 | Patlabor221 | did you run autogen.sh? |
| 20:37.12 | apeman | yes |
| 20:37.19 | Patlabor221 | wierd |
| 20:37.23 | Patlabor221 | did configure say it was using SDL? |
| 20:38.23 | apeman | ah no |
| 20:38.30 | Patlabor221 | then it didn't find it |
| 20:39.24 | Patlabor221 | what version of SDL did it install. 1.x or 2.0? |
| 20:40.08 | apeman | 1.2.15-12 |
| 20:40.21 | Patlabor221 | that should be fine |
| 20:40.38 | Patlabor221 | I'd look into why configure didn't find SDL, not how to make the od X11 build work |
| 20:40.47 | Patlabor221 | we havent' maintained that code at all |
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| 21:00.16 | BulletCatcher | I compile BZFlag on Fedora regularly, apeman. |
| 21:00.18 | BulletCatcher | Starting with a fresh checkout (or doing "make maintainer-clean") should allow it to find the dependencies. |
| 21:06.19 | apeman | yea i had SDL and SDL-devel but not all the other goodies SDL_net SDL_net-devel SDL_image etc |
| 21:07.00 | BulletCatcher | Is that in Fedora 20, perhaps? |
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| 21:07.15 | BulletCatcher | I am still on F18. |
| 21:07.57 | apeman | yes |
| 21:09.13 | Patlabor221 | we should not use sdl net or image |
| 21:10.30 | BulletCatcher | FWIW, the Fedora 20 BZFlag RPM requires SDL-devel at build time, but not any other SDL packages. |
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