IRC log for #bzflag on 20131113

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00:14.19allejoBulletCatcher, I have my client crashing again and I don't think it's the config file causing it but the SDLWindow::setGamma() is still triggering breakpoints in Xcode
00:28.24blast007allejo: are you using a self-built client?
00:29.07allejo2.4.2 bin crashes also
00:29.46blast007so that's a 'yes'?  :)
00:29.56blast007wondering what version of SDL you're building against
00:30.51allejooh, yes lol
00:30.54allejo1.2.15
00:31.13blast007hmm, so the latest 1.2... drat
00:31.45allejoyeup, strange thing it doesn't always happen. i've been launching it fine for about a week or two without issues
00:36.08blast007I wonder if it's our fault or SDL's
00:36.39allejoshrugs
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00:57.28blast007allejo: have you tried it in Windows instead?  ;)
01:04.50allejoblast007, I can't find the start button!
01:05.12blast007install the 8.1 update
01:05.56allejohehe Microsoft had to advertise the return of the start button for 8.1
01:06.09JeffMinstall Start8, it's much better
01:06.24blast007or install Windows 7
01:06.28JeffMthat and ModernMix and it's quite slickj
01:06.30JeffMyou can
01:06.34JeffMboth work
01:06.42JeffMI've gotten used to some of the windows 8 stuff
01:06.50JeffMmostlly it's fluf
01:06.57blast007I do like some of the Windows 8 changes
01:07.05blast007it's all the touchscreen crap I dislike
01:07.19JeffMthose 2 apps remove all the efective touchscreen crap
01:07.28JeffMgive you a good start menu and run metro apps in a window
01:07.48JeffMI don't know the last time I saw the fullscreen start menu
01:07.57JeffMand that includes me using the store to upgrade to 8.1
01:09.33blast007only reason I'd need 8/8.1 right now would be to manage Server 2012
01:11.43TD-LinuxI don't like how the windows 8.1 update really pushes a microsoft account
01:12.30JeffMyeah it does want one
01:12.35JeffMit is nice when it syncs your devices
01:14.13blast007meh.. just more data getting collected...
01:16.03JeffMI don't know if this is scarry or cool, you can use a webcam as input for a texture in unity
01:18.52blast007the more I read about security stuff lately, the more I want to pull the batteries from my phones, unplug my electronics, and go rock back and forth in the corner
01:27.38Delusionalyou would soon die.
01:34.59blast007yeah, you're right... if I cut off their lines of communication, they'd be forced to end me...
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23:45.37crumbok, i'm supposed to enforce clean nick policy on whatever server i have @?
23:45.58JeffMdepends on the owner
23:46.13JeffMthe owner shold have told you what they expect of you when they gave you the permisision
23:46.41crumbi dunno the owner, i think i'm on some global op list or something
23:46.52JeffMthere is no global op list
23:47.03JeffMthe owner has to set up what groups get permisions
23:47.05crumbweird
23:47.09blast007crumb: the /owner command tells you the owner
23:47.15JeffMthen it sounds like a poorly run server
23:47.25crumbi dunno how i get @ on so many servers then
23:47.58blast007you're probably in some global groups
23:48.20JeffMyeah there are global groups
23:48.25blast007global as in groups that are centrally managed on the forum, not "on every server"
23:48.30JeffMbut onwers pick what groups get what permiissions
23:49.44crumboh ok. i just remember being asked if i wanted to admin on silvercat/overlord, then i just started signing on as @ on a bunch of servers
23:50.08JeffMthen several serers probalby trust that group
23:50.16crumbcool
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