IRC log for #bzflag on 20130824

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04:50.38Delusionalis theif stealing a teammate's theif flag the proper behavior in OFFA mode?
04:50.56Delusionalno, i'm sorry, not OFFA
04:51.15DelusionalTeam play with team kill off
04:51.19JeffMI don't belive it cares if it's team or not, just player hit
04:51.40JeffMthief hit is not a kill, the noTK is in the death code not the hit code
04:52.08Delusionalhmm
04:52.28JeffMI could see people wanting it each way
04:52.29Delusionalme too
04:52.34JeffMbest would have the server arbitrate the flag transfer
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11:55.12blast007lol @ the autoban
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11:58.50blast007could someone with more rights than me flush out the akick rules for #bzflag?
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16:14.13help-242~seen blast007
16:14.14infobotblast007 is currently on #gsoc #bzflag ##ducleague ##guleague #bzflag-chat. Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 4h 15m 24s, last said: 'could someone with more rights than me flush out the akick rules for #bzflag?'.
16:15.19help-242anybody know what is the trick for AresHandler
16:15.53help-242../../include/AresHandler.h:53:5: warning: "ARES_VERSION_MAJOR" is not defined AresHandler.cxx:123:5: warning: "ARES_VERSION_MAJOR" is not defined
16:19.58BulletCatcherWhat operating system are you compiling on?
16:21.02help-242old ubuntu
16:21.17help-242I had the same thing in 2.4.0 and blast told me some magic to get around libcares
16:21.36help-242now i cannot remember ...
16:21.49BulletCatcherDo you have the libc-ares-dev package installed?
16:23.22help-242yep
16:23.46help-242in my 2.4.0 config.status it says:
16:23.48help-242S["BUILD_ARES_FALSE"]="#" S["BUILD_ARES_TRUE"]="" S["LIBCARES"]="${top_builddir}/src/other/ares/libcares.la"
16:24.06help-242in 2.4.2 it says   S["BUILD_ARES_FALSE"]="" S["BUILD_ARES_TRUE"]="#" S["LIBCARES"]="-lcares"
16:24.06BulletCatcherDoes the file /usr/include/ares.h exist on your system?
16:24.28help-242yes
16:24.38BulletCatcherhuh
16:25.21help-242I think there was some magic  ./configure  --NO-CARES   option that blast had me run
16:25.41help-242cuz in 2.4.0  it says build_ares_false,  and sets it to S["LIBCARES"]="${top_builddir}/src/other/ares/libcares.la"
16:25.59help-242in 2.4.2 the config is setup to build_ares_true  and it says S["LIBCARES"]="-lcares"
16:26.22BulletCatcherThis ought to work: "make distclean" then use --enable-ares-build with configure.
16:26.56help-2422.4.0  also has         D["BUILD_ARES"]=" 1"       D["HAVE_ARES_LIBRARY_INIT"]=" 1"
16:28.37BulletCatcherWhat about HAVE_LIBCURL in config.status?
16:28.44help-242hold on it got past areshandler now
16:29.08help-242D["HAVE_LIBCURL"]=" 1"
16:30.01help-242i think it is working
16:30.07BulletCatcheryay
16:30.26help-242so, I have libcares, but it's an older version?   so I have to enable the configure to build the version included with bzflag?
16:31.14BulletCatcherYes.  What version of libcares do you have installed?
16:33.07help-242what is the magic command to make it tell me the version
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16:34.19help-242Version: 1.6.0-2
16:37.04BulletCatcherWe bundle 1.7.1 with BZFlag.
16:37.07BulletCatcherIt looks like we require 1.7, but don't have the right configure test to reject 1.6.
16:39.09help-242well it built, I can run it and join server, but it segfaults as soon as I try to fire a bullet.
16:39.16help-242might hurt my score.
16:39.25BulletCatcherouch
16:39.45BulletCatcherDoes it show a traceback?
16:42.06help-242seems to be trying to play a sound
16:42.31help-242when it first starts up the client:    Couldn't open audio: No available audio device
16:42.34help-242but that is how its always been
16:42.48help-242then I can run around and jump and grab flags, but if I try to shoot a bullet:
16:42.53help-242Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. playLocalSound (soundCode=0) at sound.cxx:580 580  if (soundLevel <= 0  // no volume
16:43.06help-242Tracepoint 1 at 0x818228b: file sound.cxx, line 580.
16:43.49help-242under Audio Settings it says  Sound Volume: Unavailable.  Driver:  <blank space>    Device:  <blank space>  
16:43.55help-242Remote Sounds:  On
16:44.29BulletCatcherDoes sound work with other applications on your computer?
16:44.30help-242I set Remote Sounds:  Off    and it no longer segfaults
16:45.47BulletCatcherI think that problem is fixed in 2.4.3 (which hasn't been released).
16:46.17help-242but now I restarted with Remote Sounds: on    and it's ok
16:49.34BulletCatcherIt would probably be more reliable if you were to build 2.4.3 from Subversion or Git.
16:49.36BulletCatcher"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" is still good advice, though.
16:49.53help-242ok I dont mind beta testing
16:52.32BulletCatcherhttps://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag has our most up-to-date sources.
16:52.34BulletCatcherBuild the v2_4_x branch to play on public servers.
16:52.44help-242holy crap someone put up a spiralzone map
16:52.49help-242come play i wanna shoot u
16:56.53help-242party on spiralzone!  everybody come play
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17:04.23blast007help-242: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
17:05.58blast007must be something quite old to have ares 1.6, as even 10.04LTS has 1.7
17:07.26blast00712.10 and 13.04 also have binaries for BZFlag 2.4.2
17:09.23help-242oh hey blast007 come play on spiralzone i got it to work
17:09.27help-242actually bullet catcher got it to work
17:09.36help-242and I have 9.10
17:17.55blast007thought about upgrading someday?  They dropped support for 9.10 back on 2011-04-30...
17:18.52help-242as if "they" ever "supported" it anyways
17:19.03help-242come play I wanna shoot you
17:19.08help-242we have a good game going
17:19.42blast007I mean, like.. security updates
17:20.20blast007so yes, they *did* support it
17:20.26help-242o_o
17:20.31help-242i thought linux didnt have virsuses
17:20.39blast007I didn't say viruses
17:20.49JeffMand it does :)
17:20.59JeffMit has plenty of vulernabiities
17:21.08help-242omgawd u r scaring me now
17:21.10help-242come play
17:21.33blast007wonder how many exploits there are in a 2 year old linux kernel :P
17:21.36JeffMI do not belive your god has anything to do with it
17:22.22help-2422.6.31-22-generic #67-Ubuntu SMP Sat Oct 16 19:10:07 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
17:22.28help-242almost 3 years soon!
17:25.14help-242gg BulletCatcher
17:25.19BulletCatcher:-)
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