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| 00:53.01 | brad | blast007: is there listserver issues? |
| 00:54.12 | allejo | doesn't seem like it to me brad |
| 00:54.23 | brad | ah |
| 00:55.00 | brad | seems it's my ISP...traceroute stops in UK <.< |
| 00:55.14 | brad | unless blast banned all brits |
| 00:55.59 | allejo | that's a possibility |
| 00:58.03 | brad | works fine through VPN at least :] |
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| 01:54.55 | alpha1-2 | why does sometimes "<PROTECTED>" appear in logs (and maybe in chat too)? |
| 01:59.57 | BulletCatcher | Those are lines that begin with a space character. |
| 02:00.31 | alpha1-2 | ah ok, only it appears in chat right? |
| 02:00.55 | BulletCatcher | Yes. ibot won't log such lines. |
| 02:01.25 | BulletCatcher | Some people keep their own private logs, though, and I assume that includes even lines that becing with a space. |
| 02:01.45 | BulletCatcher | wow s/becing/begin/ |
| 02:02.18 | alpha1-2 | yes I think... is it being used for hide some delicate contents right? |
| 02:02.31 | BulletCatcher | It can be used for that. |
| 02:02.42 | alpha1-2 | ok |
| 02:02.45 | BulletCatcher | I rarely see it done deliberately. |
| 02:02.58 | BulletCatcher | Usually it is just by accident. |
| 02:03.07 | alpha1-2 | ok I guess |
| 02:04.32 | alpha1-2 | I can see that sometimes the log is purged of unuseful contents like when a bug is fixed |
| 02:04.35 | alpha1-2 | I think |
| 02:05.11 | BulletCatcher | thinks actions aren't logged either |
| 02:05.23 | alpha1-2 | oh |
| 02:05.41 | alpha1-2 | no, yes, they are logged |
| 02:05.56 | BulletCatcher | ok. I haven't looked at the logs in a long time. |
| 02:06.26 | alpha1-2 | :), they are useful for whom aren't logged in all day , like me :) |
| 02:07.15 | alpha1-2 | how is the developing doing? |
| 02:07.29 | BulletCatcher | Not much is happening right now. |
| 02:08.19 | alpha1-2 | ok.. are you fighting with low level issues still :)? |
| 02:08.51 | BulletCatcher | I am done fixing compiler warnings for awhile. |
| 02:10.05 | alpha1-2 | nice |
| 02:10.42 | alpha1-2 | I have to try svn still, I only compiled a pair of versions from tar source code |
| 02:11.18 | alpha1-2 | what linux distro do you use? |
| 02:11.23 | BulletCatcher | Fedora 18 |
| 02:11.56 | alpha1-2 | wow.... heritage from RedHat maybe iirc? |
| 02:12.04 | BulletCatcher | yes |
| 02:12.39 | alpha1-2 | good... nice distro... I use from a long time Suse/Opensuse ones... nice too |
| 02:12.48 | alpha1-2 | I have using* |
| 02:13.37 | alpha1-2 | I like very much the YaST tool for config all :) |
| 02:15.08 | alpha1-2 | svn works with branchs too right? |
| 02:15.17 | alpha1-2 | does* work* |
| 02:16.05 | BulletCatcher | Yes. You can check out any of the Subversion branches just as easily as the trunk. |
| 02:16.37 | alpha1-2 | can I see branches from the SF web page too? |
| 02:17.10 | BulletCatcher | http://sourceforge.net/p/bzflag/code/HEAD/tree/branches/ |
| 02:17.50 | alpha1-2 | ok, nice.... |
| 02:18.23 | alpha1-2 | what is yours? |
| 02:19.55 | BulletCatcher | My recent commits have all been on what we call the trunk. |
| 02:19.56 | BulletCatcher | http://sourceforge.net/p/bzflag/code/HEAD/tree/trunk |
| 02:20.56 | alpha1-2 | do you work mostly with bzfs or bzflag? |
| 02:21.15 | BulletCatcher | both |
| 02:22.52 | alpha1-2 | does each file/directory have as commit title the last commit title assigned maybe :P? |
| 02:23.07 | BulletCatcher | yup |
| 02:23.09 | alpha1-2 | updated* |
| 02:23.53 | alpha1-2 | and doing svn -r etc command I can obtain all commits in order right? |
| 02:24.44 | BulletCatcher | Normally you just want the latest version. |
| 02:24.46 | BulletCatcher | svn gives you that by default. |
| 02:25.16 | BulletCatcher | But you can use svn -r to select other revisions. |
| 02:25.27 | alpha1-2 | ok |
| 02:25.55 | alpha1-2 | I found now the history link in web too |
| 02:26.43 | alpha1-2 | but it doesn't say the file in question |
| 02:27.19 | BulletCatcher | The new SourceForge web site isn't as useful for browsing code as it was before. |
| 02:27.43 | alpha1-2 | oh |
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| 02:29.47 | alpha1-2 | only these guys are the "supervisors"? |
| 02:29.50 | alpha1-2 | blast007, brlcad, bullet_catcher, jeffm2501, timriker |
| 02:31.06 | alpha1-2 | (I am just trying to learn) |
| 02:31.26 | khonkhortisan | On irc, you don't want to mention many people's names at the same time, because that line turns red in their clients, and may beep and blink |
| 02:32.19 | alpha1-2 | oh sorry, you are right :| |
| 02:32.42 | BulletCatcher | Yes, those are the people who can assign privileges to others for BZFlag on SourceForge. |
| 02:33.20 | alpha1-2 | and who check each commit for being accepted right? |
| 02:33.32 | khonkhortisan | that isn't always done |
| 02:34.02 | khonkhortisan | If someone sends in a patch, one of these people checks it before committing it (if they commit it at all) |
| 02:34.51 | khonkhortisan | If someone makes a commit, they've already proven they are capable enough to not break something on purpose |
| 02:35.32 | khonkhortisan | Big features are looked over, small fixes aren't as much, and anything that breaks is definitely looked over |
| 02:35.56 | khonkhortisan | But I'm not one of the people that does this, so I may not be correct. |
| 02:38.24 | alpha1-2 | Jeff said me that I should send something as a patch, then I guess that this is the first step, but I think that there are people that send commits directly |
| 02:38.54 | alpha1-2 | and, finally, commits are checked previous updated? |
| 02:39.17 | khonkhortisan | Your first sentence is true, the second one I don't understand. |
| 02:39.22 | alpha1-2 | previous to being updated* |
| 02:39.28 | khonkhortisan | oh. The commit is the update. |
| 02:39.44 | alpha1-2 | ah ok |
| 02:40.18 | alpha1-2 | and the chat bot says when an update is done right? |
| 02:40.25 | khonkhortisan | yep |
| 02:40.39 | khonkhortisan | the same for the wiki, it says when anyone changes that. |
| 02:40.50 | alpha1-2 | ok I am understanding better ;) |
| 02:43.44 | alpha1-2 | ah, then, the five persons above aren't all who are proven to do committs, right? there are much more? |
| 02:44.13 | khonkhortisan | Yes, there are more (including me) but I don't know where to get the list. |
| 02:44.41 | alpha1-2 | ok... don't break anything eh ;) |
| 02:44.48 | khonkhortisan | that's what they tell me :) |
| 02:44.54 | alpha1-2 | he he |
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| 20:03.38 | griz | yo |
| 20:07.46 | blast007 | hello |
| 20:14.54 | alezakos | I've got a patch ready for the "Pause the console" feature - It adds a menu option to automatically pause the console when it's not at the bottom (BZAdmin-like behaviour) |
| 20:18.50 | JeffM | cool |
| 20:20.18 | blast007 | we should probably increase the backlog length as well |
| 20:21.54 | JeffM | man does the new SF interface for trackers suck.... |
| 20:23.50 | JeffM | alezakos, why is it a patch? |
| 20:24.06 | alezakos | Should it be a commit? |
| 20:24.10 | JeffM | why not? |
| 20:24.22 | alezakos | Ah, okay |
| 20:24.30 | alezakos | I'm still unsure about what 'eval' means |
| 20:24.31 | JeffM | it's an option and sounds like a good idea |
| 20:24.40 | JeffM | eval means see if it's possible |
| 20:24.49 | JeffM | but generaly a good idea |
| 20:25.13 | JeffM | if it wasn't good enough to be included we'd just close the request and say "no" |
| 20:25.22 | JeffM | features are not patches ;) |
| 20:27.02 | JeffM | and if you question it, just ask us |
| 20:27.10 | alezakos | Ah, okay, thanks for that |
| 20:27.17 | JeffM | I don't see patches as a storage place for users to get code from, but a place for users to give us code to include or discard. |
| 20:27.58 | JeffM | optioal code for end users is handled by plugins/scripts |
| 20:28.05 | JeffM | not by making them repatch with every compile |
| 20:28.15 | JeffM | this isn't 1998 |
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| 20:31.48 | JeffM | ibot alezakos++ |
| 20:32.17 | Notify | 03BZFlag:Alezakos * 8691 /DevelopmentPlans/2.4.4: /* Feature Requests to Eval */ |
| 20:32.23 | alezakos | Thanks Jeff :) |
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| 21:02.22 | Notify | 03BZFlag:kongr45gpen * 22812 (trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/Player.cxx trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/Player.h and 2 others): Track number of self-kills on the scoreboard |
| 21:27.11 | khonkhortisan | ooh |
| 21:29.45 | khonkhortisan | C++0x support :( |
| 21:30.58 | blast007 | khonkhortisan: what about it? |
| 21:31.20 | khonkhortisan | I need it. I'm checking if I _really_ don't have it. |
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| 21:33.23 | khonkhortisan | just had to re-autogen |
| 21:33.46 | khonkhortisan | recompiles just to get selfkills |
| 21:34.01 | alezakos | :) |
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| 21:34.47 | khonkhortisan | A wild Loki appears! |
| 21:36.27 | JeffM | you would have a VERY old gcc if you didn't have what we use |
| 21:38.16 | Constitution | ~lart khonkhortisan |
| 21:38.16 | ibot | lowers khonkhortisan's priority |
| 21:38.32 | khonkhortisan | huh? |
| 21:38.42 | Constitution | how dare you beat us ;) |
| 21:38.53 | khonkhortisan | oh |
| 21:40.21 | kierra | I cant believe you agreed to play 3v2,, consti |
| 21:41.17 | khonkhortisan | make[2]: *** No rule to make target `bzsignal.c', needed by `bzsignal.lo'. Stop. Hmm. |
| 21:41.28 | Constitution | I think we had everyone's pity, anyway :P |
| 21:41.52 | khonkhortisan | especially ashvapa |
| 21:41.58 | khonkhortisan | la |
| 21:42.06 | Constitution | wonders why we have one C file in an otherwise entirely C++ project |
| 21:43.18 | blast007 | that file was changed to a C++ file just recently |
| 21:43.47 | blast007 | khonkhortisan: do a 'make distclean' and then run autogen.sh, configure, and make again |
| 21:44.14 | khonkhortisan | ah that's what I forgot, I did the last three in right-to-left-to-right order, then make clean |
| 21:44.54 | khonkhortisan | I never remember that one |
| 21:48.32 | JeffM | yeah any time a file changes you need to blow out the cached objects |
| 21:48.41 | JeffM | changes in name I mean |
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| 22:07.48 | khonkhortisan | Where does it show selfkills? |
| 22:08.14 | JeffM | in a ring around the moon |
| 22:08.17 | JeffM | it's very clever |
| 22:09.19 | JeffM | thinks the moon should say "Cha" on it |
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| 23:10.06 | Notify | 03BZFlag:DevinWetz * 8692 /User:DevinWetz: Created page with "As a highly-paid publisher, I'm not really in a position to publish the actual interesting content I work on. Constructing my very own Web sites, permits me to show off profes..." |
| 23:11.07 | blast007 | constructing my very own websites on other people's websites ... ;) |
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