00:03.48 | JeffM | BSP collisions and geometry are usualy used to keep people outside the items, they don't do well at defnining an inside where you'd still see the ground |
00:04.04 | JeffM | so it'd just be harder to do the OO effects in that type of world |
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00:33.06 | blast007 | JeffM: and I suppose that would be further complicated if we ever added an object property that made an obstacle impassble to OO and zoned PZ |
00:33.46 | JeffM | not really, once you solve OO you have to do it for some people and not others |
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18:43.05 | short_circuit | What version are the bulk of the players on right now? |
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19:20.21 | swigg | 2.4.2? |
19:20.40 | swigg | Personally, I use 2.4.0 |
19:20.53 | swigg | and have no intention of upgrading |
19:27.40 | blast007 | releases 2.6.0 quick |
19:28.33 | blast007 | spldart: most are using 2.4.x |
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20:15.40 | BulletCatcher | swigg: Why do you prefer 2.4.0 over 2.4.2? |
20:16.38 | blast007 | he roots for the underdog |
20:25.39 | JeffM | maybe he runs a mac |
20:26.24 | blast007 | PPC for life |
20:38.24 | JeffM | there may just not be enough changes |
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21:03.59 | swigg | No; The answer is a bit underhanded; I like the bugs in 2.4.0 like GM staying locked after you kill your opponant and the crosshairs staying on the person after they grab ST |
21:04.38 | swigg | In 2.4.2 when you kill someone you have to re lock GM on them |
21:06.45 | JeffM | were you one of the 2.0.x holdouts as well? |
21:23.34 | BulletCatcher | Hmm. We'll have to add something extra awesome to 2.4.4 to make it irresistable. |
21:24.50 | BulletCatcher | Full-screen radar, maybe? |
21:24.54 | BulletCatcher | runs and hides |
21:27.21 | JeffM | proto break will do it :) |
21:27.56 | BulletCatcher | Yeah, but we don't even have a compelling reason to do that yet. |
21:28.06 | JeffM | true |
21:28.14 | swigg | Integrate "smell-o-vision" |
21:28.23 | JeffM | and "to make swigg upgrade" is probalby not a good reason |
21:28.37 | Delusional | kya |
21:28.39 | BulletCatcher | It's a good reason, but not a sufficient reason. :-p |
21:28.41 | swigg | that would drive most players off |
21:28.43 | Delusional | err, lua |
21:28.50 | swigg | Make a snake12534 edition |
21:34.48 | unclelightning | what would the snake version include :p |
21:43.16 | blast007 | Delusional: no, lua is for later |
21:43.43 | JeffM | unclelightning, automatic filtering of the word LOL |
21:43.51 | blast007 | I stand by my assement that the next breaking release (if we do one) should be focused on enhancements that allow us to make the game easier to learn |
21:44.00 | JeffM | yup |
21:44.09 | JeffM | and/or cow launchers |
21:44.15 | blast007 | heh |
21:44.18 | JeffM | but that's a given |
21:44.33 | blast007 | karma |
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21:44.45 | JeffM | it solves all things |
21:45.04 | Delusional | instead of a tiny little arrow showing postion of your team's flag, giamt arrows showing the postition of every team flag. |
21:45.25 | JeffM | makes it too easy :) |
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21:45.31 | JeffM | but that would be a viable option |
21:45.50 | JeffM | more then that the game needs consitency cleanups and hints/tooltips |
21:45.54 | Delusional | i've been asking for that for five years. |
21:46.35 | JeffM | write it up :) |
21:46.40 | JeffM | oh sorry, patches welcome |
21:54.37 | blast007 | tutorial, modal dialogs, unobtrusive popups |
21:55.05 | blast007 | ability to use the mouse to click on menus and such |
21:58.45 | blast007 | http://wiki.bzflag.org/DevelopmentPlans/2.6.0 |
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22:10.37 | blast007 | Snake12534: what do you think the next major version of BZFlag should contain? |
22:10.59 | blast007 | I think it should be this stuff: http://wiki.bzflag.org/DevelopmentPlans/2.6.0 |
22:11.21 | Snake12534 | More people. |
22:11.33 | Snake12534 | More advertisements so people can see BZFlag. |
22:11.51 | blast007 | that's not what I asked |
22:11.54 | Snake12534 | And there should be like sorta like World of Tanks |
22:12.01 | Snake12534 | Multiple Tank Choices |
22:12.42 | blast007 | so more tanks choices... what else? |
22:12.50 | Snake12534 | Better physics. |
22:12.51 | blast007 | what would really make new players want to stay? |
22:13.02 | Snake12534 | " on " by my friend who quite bzflag last week because of that |
22:13.05 | blast007 | what's the biggest issue with the game as it is right now? |
22:13.06 | Snake12534 | he is new |
22:13.10 | Snake12534 | quit after a week* |
22:13.12 | Snake12534 | physics |
22:13.23 | blast007 | how so? what is wrong with the physics currently? |
22:14.05 | Snake12534 | Gravity |
22:14.13 | Snake12534 | The fact that 90% of the tank will not drop |
22:14.16 | Snake12534 | even on the edge |
22:14.23 | Snake12534 | But PERSONALLY idrc about that |
22:14.38 | Snake12534 | my friend is a PC gamer who likes good physics |
22:14.45 | Snake12534 | But If they change the physics, bzflag would go nuts |
22:14.47 | blast007 | Okay, what's the second biggest issue? |
22:14.53 | Snake12534 | Uhm |
22:15.12 | Snake12534 | I think it's the fact that they aren't enough devlopers that could do the updates |
22:15.24 | Snake12534 | We need a better league system |
22:15.33 | Snake12534 | We need GU League to get more popular |
22:15.44 | Snake12534 | New players will be interested in competitive play. |
22:15.46 | blast007 | what about the fact that the game itself is rather unhelpful for new players? |
22:16.16 | blast007 | do you see the lack of a good teaching mode as a big issue? |
22:17.20 | Snake12534 | uhm |
22:17.22 | Snake12534 | Sure |
22:17.27 | Snake12534 | RO tried to fixed this. |
22:17.32 | blast007 | RO? |
22:17.37 | Snake12534 | New players are being DESTROYED at mofo |
22:17.47 | Snake12534 | and there's profanity yelling at them "NOOB GET OUT NOOB" |
22:18.00 | Snake12534 | RO - Reptiles Orzg. We make maps for GU New players |
22:18.33 | Snake12534 | We need a easy, calm #1 server on server list |
22:18.36 | Snake12534 | that is good for new players |
22:18.42 | Snake12534 | MOFO is taking over the fun for them |
22:19.16 | blast007 | my vision is having a proper tutorial mode |
22:19.33 | blast007 | not dependent on some third party server being at the top of the list |
22:19.38 | Snake12534 | Yes, of course. |
22:19.43 | Snake12534 | That's good too. |
22:19.48 | Snake12534 | Sorry, I gotta go do a match on GU. |
22:19.51 | Snake12534 | BBL |
22:19.53 | blast007 | bia |
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22:22.41 | JeffM | what the hell? |
22:24.50 | JeffM | so his website solves all problems? |
22:29.34 | blast007 | I downloaded a cure for world hunger! |
22:29.49 | blast007 | though oddly I have these weird popups on my computer now... |
22:33.51 | allejo | wut... |
22:33.53 | JeffM | and a bongo buddy? |
22:50.15 | Snake12534 | wut? |
22:50.32 | JeffM | exactly |
22:59.24 | Snake12534 | ok cu guys |
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23:11.09 | allejo | I want a bongo buddy |
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23:13.15 | swigg_ | Allejo: Don't you have like 10 or 12 of those wearing short skirts? |
23:14.50 | allejo | lol |
23:25.15 | JeffM | I wonder if bongo buddy even runs these days |
23:25.25 | blast007 | bonzi buddy* |
23:25.31 | JeffM | ahh sorry |
23:25.54 | JeffM | I knew it was something stupid... buddy |
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23:39.42 | swigg_ | Bonzai? Little trees? |
23:40.16 | blast007 | swigg_: in case you really don't know... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BonziBUDDY |
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23:47.06 | swigg_ | I think I'll just stick to the trees.... |