| 00:08.54 | Snake12534 | Hi jcp |
| 00:24.07 | jcp | heya Snake12534 |
| 00:32.23 | allejo | holy netsplit batman! |
| 00:32.23 | Snake12534 | Why has so many quit? |
| 00:32.41 | blast007 | it was a netsplit |
| 00:32.46 | allejo | because they all saw you join the channel |
| 00:33.23 | JeffM | they have moved to a seperate but equal reality |
| 00:33.25 | JeffM | quantum mechanics and all |
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| 00:34.08 | tburn | blast got a ? for you |
| 00:34.12 | Delusional | I was never all that big a fan of this reality. Why did they leave without me? |
| 00:34.36 | tburn | flags. in this plugin I take (then wait) then give different ones. |
| 00:34.51 | tburn | sometimes ppl get shot type did not match expected and then autokicked |
| 00:35.02 | tburn | increase delay? or look for bug in plugin? |
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| 00:35.30 | blast007 | dunno |
| 00:35.35 | Delusional | could mod your bzfs |
| 00:36.00 | tburn | oh like instrument to see whats going on |
| 00:36.04 | tburn | or like not kick :) |
| 00:36.30 | tburn | lagstats said the most affected client was only 100ms lag |
| 00:38.20 | blast007 | at this time, there's not a perfect way of doing what you're doing |
| 00:39.16 | tburn | here's another one. in the future, will it be possible to make a client ask permission to drop a flag? |
| 00:39.36 | tburn | I do a lot of work to prevent or work around this, but that would be ideal |
| 00:43.24 | blast007 | long term goal is to make the server have more control over the client |
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| 01:00.42 | Delusional | you gotta remember, no matter what the lag numbers are, for what you are doing It only takes a couple packets getting completely lost, and you get this problem. |
| 01:02.46 | Delusional | the way packets are sent thru the network, everything is split into tiny segments, and each may travel it's own path. The packets sent first may not be the ones to arrive first. |
| 01:07.05 | Delusional | when we did progressive flags, we added a quarter second delay between the flag take and the flag give, and we still got this problem every once in awhile. |
| 01:07.26 | Delusional | I'd say your best bet is to mod bzfs to disable kick for that reason |
| 01:07.54 | Delusional | then you can go with the instant take/give and not worry about the other stuff |
| 01:11.04 | blast007 | now here's a thought.. when you 'zap' a player's flag, does that generate a flag dropped event after the client acknowledges that it has dropped the flag? |
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| 01:14.53 | tburn | blast: I'm not sure |
| 01:15.07 | tburn | when you die there are 2 drop events - one before the die event and one after... |
| 01:15.16 | tburn | not sure about the zap itself |
| 01:15.38 | tburn | let me test |
| 01:16.02 | tburn | when you say "the client acknowldeges that it has dropped the flag", what do you mean |
| 01:19.27 | blast007 | meaning, in the case of the server zapping a flag, does the client tell the server "okay, I dropped the flag" |
| 01:22.14 | tburn | I don't *think* so |
| 01:22.17 | tburn | the client does get a drop flag event |
| 01:22.28 | tburn | obviously :) |
| 01:23.17 | tburn | I'd have to look at the code - I'm most familiar with the bzfs api so far |
| 01:24.02 | tburn | I did discover another "cheat" which I'm not sure I can guard against -- if the client spams "drop" with BU, the radar flickers to full range before the re-give... |
| 01:25.31 | Delusional | was that other burrow bugfix as easy as you thought it would be? |
| 01:25.44 | tburn | yes tho I chose to instead see if the victim was supposed to be holding BU |
| 01:25.54 | tburn | just in case in the future it becomes possible to be squished at z>0 |
| 01:26.10 | tburn | thanks for the help |
| 01:27.18 | tburn | I actually copied the exact delay from prog flags |
| 01:27.31 | tburn | its 25 ticks, so thats probably a 1/4 sec (?) |
| 01:27.46 | Delusional | hmm, theme97 wpi;d be proud. |
| 01:27.53 | Delusional | he wrote it. |
| 01:28.08 | tburn | its nice to see other ppls code |
| 01:28.23 | Delusional | last I heard he was writing WOW cheats. |
| 01:28.34 | tburn | hah |
| 01:28.47 | tburn | anyone hear read REAMDE (not that its all *that* good, but reminded me) |
| 01:29.27 | tburn | it has some crazy fictional MMORPG in it called T'Rain... |
| 01:31.02 | tburn | is allejo here? he was the one having all the shot type kicks. |
| 01:31.25 | tburn | delusional - u volunteered to test... is now good? |
| 01:31.37 | Delusional | ok |
| 01:32.03 | tburn | cool let me start it up... port 5154 in about 1 min |
| 01:33.06 | tburn | my IRC client isn't showing IPs, but I guess everyone elses is. Mine is uh 74.96.158.123 |
| 01:33.21 | tburn | anyone else feel free to join |
| 01:33.29 | tburn | if we get 5 we can fully test the plugin features |
| 01:34.05 | Delusional | i'm not finding a server |
| 01:36.01 | tburn | oh carp port forwarding |
| 01:36.05 | tburn | one sec |
| 01:36.49 | tburn | try now |
| 01:36.59 | Delusional | in |
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| 01:42.07 | allejo | one approach would be to modify bzfs to disable shot checkts |
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| 01:44.10 | allejo | i here |
| 01:44.10 | allejo | is* |
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| 02:19.22 | khonkhortisan | tburn, I can join but I can't spawn |
| 02:22.40 | allejo | khonkhortisan, try joining right now |
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| 02:24.14 | khonkhortisan | this ip? 74.96.158.123 |
| 02:24.40 | allejo | yea i saw you join but got signed off immediately |
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| 02:25.03 | khonkhortisan | I'm just sitting there with "Press ... to start" and I think I saw a flag wave by |
| 02:25.18 | khonkhortisan | I have the team scores, (2-2) 2, and 1 |
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| 02:25.51 | allejo | try once more |
| 02:25.51 | khonkhortisan | Looks like the map changed |
| 02:25.52 | allejo | we have a different map |
| 02:25.57 | khonkhortisan | :) |
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| 02:42.38 | khonkhortisan | Replaced the batteries in my mouse | Is that server still down? |
| 02:52.33 | Notify | 03BZFlag:74.96.158.123 * 8626 /Bz_eTickEven: /* Data */ |
| 03:19.57 | tburn | yah I'm almost done |
| 03:20.09 | tburn | I am just doing a quick test |
| 03:20.22 | tburn | i wont blame the documentation :) |
| 03:21.08 | tburn | replacing the delay with a real one was easy. Remembering that I was doing an instant give and only falling back to a delay if that returned false... that was harder :) |
| 03:23.07 | tburn | I'm re-enabling the PZ shot convert too |
| 03:23.14 | tburn | server in 2 mins |
| 03:26.17 | tburn | alright starting up.. if anyone is still here... :-/ |
| 03:55.33 | khonkhortisan | beep |
| 03:55.44 | tburn | oh |
| 03:59.19 | khonkhortisan | That was odd |
| 03:59.26 | tburn | wat happened |
| 04:00.01 | tburn | what I saw was u paused then signed out? |
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| 04:24.19 | tburn | restarted |
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| 04:35.17 | khonkhortisan | for some reason it wouldn't go fullscreen, then when I tried to force it, it went black. Probably an isolated thing. |
| 04:42.22 | tburn | thanks for helping test |
| 04:43.56 | khonkhortisan | yw |
| 04:44.44 | tburn | hmm was anyone else here trying to log in |
| 04:44.53 | tburn | I have only 1 port forwarded on my firewall |
| 04:45.32 | tburn | 5154.. but I saw an entry for 5155 and had disabled it not knowing when it was added :-| |
| 04:45.59 | tburn | here it says to use a range of ports |
| 04:46.03 | tburn | http://wiki.bzflag.org/Common_Support_Issues#Router_Setup |
| 04:47.52 | BulletCatcher | You need to open only one port (for both TCP and UDP) per server. |
| 04:49.07 | tburn | that was my guess as well. Wondering when I had added a line for port 5155 and why... |
| 04:51.13 | khonkhortisan | You probably wanted to host two servers |
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