| 00:00.02 | blast007 | it's just a legacy issue related to white plastic |
| 00:00.05 | needhelp | that's what it says |
| 00:00.43 | Constitution | needhelp: add "-directory ~/Downloads/BZFlag-2.4.2.app/Contents/Resources" |
| 00:01.01 | blast007 | isn't that what it's aready being set to? |
| 00:01.04 | JeffM | Constitution, remember that the appl bundle is from nextstep |
| 00:01.33 | needhelp | it's allready is set, ne? |
| 00:01.44 | Constitution | not when run from the command line |
| 00:01.56 | JeffM | actualy it just said that it set the datapath to that ;) |
| 00:02.01 | JeffM | I still say smoothing |
| 00:02.08 | Constitution | oh |
| 00:02.30 | needhelp | anyway.. who of you made a official version of bzflag for mac os x 10.8 |
| 00:02.32 | allejo | JeffM, the smoothing issue lets you open the client at least, no? |
| 00:02.33 | Constitution | * headdesk * |
| 00:02.50 | JeffM | allejo, no we fail at making the context, aka "the window" |
| 00:03.07 | needhelp | was it build through command line or in xcode |
| 00:03.08 | Constitution | it should still error out |
| 00:03.36 | JeffM | needhelp, that version, both |
| 00:03.44 | JeffM | but it wasn't built on 10.8 |
| 00:03.54 | Constitution | needhelp: I made the current official binary, and it was made using the old Xcode project, which was a wrapper for autotools terminal commands |
| 00:03.56 | blast007 | Constitution: I was referring to it saying "data path is..." followed by the same thing you told him to pass to -directory ;) |
| 00:04.11 | Constitution | blast007: yes, selective reading, sorry |
| 00:04.16 | JeffM | Constitution, can you rehost your new build somewhere? |
| 00:04.22 | needhelp | so can u tell me what am i doing wrong and how to fix that |
| 00:04.26 | Constitution | if I can find it |
| 00:04.39 | JeffM | needhelp, we can't. YOU CAN NOT BUILD WITH THAT VERSION ON 10.8 |
| 00:04.44 | JeffM | it is not supported |
| 00:05.07 | needhelp | but it's already done |
| 00:05.22 | needhelp | it just says |
| 00:05.22 | allejo | did terminal with -directory do anything? o.O |
| 00:05.27 | needhelp | Choose a destination with a supported architecture in order to run on this system. |
| 00:05.39 | JeffM | needhelp, it's not done, it didn't even start |
| 00:05.59 | Constitution | I still say it should launch, or error out somehow |
| 00:06.12 | JeffM | we can not help with the old xcode proejct on 10.8, we were never able to make it work |
| 00:06.58 | allejo | the only way to compile with the old project is to install autotools but it'd be easier just to use the new project |
| 00:07.20 | needhelp | maybe you just could answer my question: Choose a destination with a supported architecture in order to run on this system. |
| 00:07.33 | needhelp | what destination_ |
| 00:07.34 | needhelp | ? |
| 00:07.37 | Constitution | what gives you that error? running from xcode? running from terminal? |
| 00:08.36 | needhelp | actually.. my build has was already running today... 1 and half hours ago.. |
| 00:08.49 | needhelp | but then |
| 00:08.55 | JeffM | I have never seen that error before |
| 00:09.05 | JeffM | so there is no answer |
| 00:09.33 | blast007 | well that's cool... the 'code' section is gone from our sourceforge project :/ |
| 00:09.55 | needhelp | just listen i tell you how it was.. i have added mac os x 10.8 sdk library to your old project |
| 00:10.14 | blast007 | and the new allura is spitting out HTTP 500 Internal Server Error... yay for upgrading! |
| 00:10.47 | blast007 | needhelp: that doesn't do anything |
| 00:11.01 | blast007 | the old project was just a wrapper for the linux-style tools |
| 00:11.27 | blast007 | it wasn't a proper xcode project file, not until recently in the 2.4.3 code in SVN |
| 00:11.34 | needhelp | actually xcode showed me that those lib files where not compatible |
| 00:11.46 | needhelp | that comes originally with the source code |
| 00:11.50 | needhelp | come* |
| 00:12.01 | needhelp | were* |
| 00:12.28 | blast007 | I imagine those are only used when building the actual .app part, which is the last step. You won't be able to complete the first steps with the 2.4.2 Xcode project on 10.8. |
| 00:13.49 | needhelp | but if i make a new project, and will just copy data from 2.4.2 Xcode project and post it into that new project.. that wont help aswell? |
| 00:14.41 | Constitution | forget building 2.4.2 on Mountain Lion. we don't support that. we already did the work to make a new project that will build on Mountain Lion in 2.4.3, which you can get from SVN |
| 00:15.01 | blast007 | ~bzsvn |
| 00:15.02 | ibot | it has been said that bzsvn is http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN and svn co svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/bzflag/code/trunk/bzflag bzflag |
| 00:22.16 | blast007 | needhelp: are you able to get the code from SVN? |
| 00:24.34 | Constitution | grrr, .../src/bzfs/ShotManager.h:98:14: error: no type named 'shared_ptr' in namespace 'std' |
| 00:24.49 | JeffM | on osx? |
| 00:25.02 | JeffM | do you turn on C++11? |
| 00:25.20 | JeffM | we checked windows and gcc and it's cool with it |
| 00:25.25 | JeffM | docs say llvm should support it |
| 00:25.31 | JeffM | but we may need to enable it |
| 00:25.35 | JeffM | we had to turn it on in gcc |
| 00:25.53 | Constitution | it says C++ Language Dialect: GNU++11 |
| 00:25.57 | JeffM | k |
| 00:26.19 | JeffM | if xcode can't support shared_ptr and std::function I will be super sad |
| 00:26.29 | JeffM | but I can do the code in a different way |
| 00:26.49 | JeffM | I'd like to do more research to see if there are ways to get xcode to support it |
| 00:27.13 | JeffM | Constitution, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12819886/no-type-named-shared-ptr-in-namespace-std |
| 00:27.34 | JeffM | looks like you have to change the lib in addition to the language |
| 00:29.26 | Constitution | cause it definitely makes sense for a linker setting change to solve a compiler error |
| 00:29.35 | JeffM | it's not a compile error |
| 00:29.43 | JeffM | it IS a link error |
| 00:30.04 | JeffM | well it's what version of the STL is used |
| 00:30.12 | Constitution | oh |
| 00:30.13 | JeffM | shared_ptr is not a language construct |
| 00:30.26 | Constitution | ok, I see |
| 00:30.26 | JeffM | it's a template that is implemented in the standard library |
| 00:30.45 | JeffM | now support for something like "auto" would be just the language setting |
| 00:30.49 | JeffM | since that is a language feature |
| 00:30.54 | Constitution | if we move to libc++ we will have to kiss 10.6 support goodbye |
| 00:30.59 | JeffM | yep |
| 00:31.06 | JeffM | no PPC |
| 00:31.11 | needhelp | blast007 still trying to get it.. |
| 00:31.15 | needhelp | it's still downloading |
| 00:31.32 | JeffM | also no windows 95 or 98 support |
| 00:31.42 | JeffM | and we will require gcc 4.4 or later |
| 00:31.47 | JeffM | so some older debians will not work |
| 00:31.52 | JeffM | we had a big talk about it |
| 00:31.55 | needhelp | bzflag/tags/v2_4_0/src/geometry/models/tank/low_barrel.cxx is atm |
| 00:32.05 | blast007 | ... |
| 00:32.20 | JeffM | needhelp, wrong one |
| 00:32.22 | JeffM | you want trunk |
| 00:32.25 | blast007 | press Ctrl-C and delete it all |
| 00:32.33 | JeffM | not the entire repository |
| 00:32.37 | blast007 | you're downloading the entire SVN repo, not just /trunk/bzflag/ |
| 00:32.43 | JeffM | you are getting about 2.5 gigs of stuff |
| 00:32.58 | JeffM | the wiki page has the exact url for just bzflag |
| 00:33.07 | needhelp | in what directory i can find them |
| 00:33.09 | blast007 | and the factoid above has the EXACT command to run ;D |
| 00:33.15 | blast007 | svn co svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/bzflag/code/trunk/bzflag bzflag |
| 00:33.27 | JeffM | instructions are HARD! |
| 00:33.50 | Constitution | JeffM: are we keeping this c++11 stuff restricted to bzfs? |
| 00:33.58 | JeffM | Constitution, for now as a test |
| 00:34.07 | JeffM | once we are sure of the scope we will expand it |
| 00:34.26 | needhelp | svn: 'bzflag' is already a working copy for a different URL; run 'svn update' to complete it |
| 00:34.31 | needhelp | svn update Skipped '.' |
| 00:34.37 | Constitution | rm -rf bzflag |
| 00:34.38 | JeffM | delete the folder you downloaded |
| 00:34.42 | Constitution | then try again |
| 00:34.54 | JeffM | seriously Constitution repost that bin ;) |
| 00:34.59 | JeffM | or did you trash it? |
| 00:35.20 | Constitution | I think I trashed it but I'll check |
| 00:37.04 | Constitution | ah, found it |
| 00:37.23 | Constitution | do we have somewhere to post development builds where they won't vanish? |
| 00:37.51 | needhelp | where did i just downloaded all that data? |
| 00:38.08 | blast007 | needhelp: to a folder named 'bzflag' in your current working directory |
| 00:38.09 | JeffM | we should have somewhere on .org but for now you can put it on my server if you want |
| 00:39.22 | JeffM | I got stats.bzflag.org if you want it :) |
| 00:40.33 | blast007 | I have download.bzflag.org :P |
| 00:40.39 | JeffM | use that |
| 00:40.47 | JeffM | that sounds much cooler |
| 00:49.11 | JeffM | so that worked Constitution ? |
| 00:53.41 | Constitution | yeah |
| 00:53.50 | Constitution | http://download.bzflag.org/2.4.3/mac/BZFlag-2.4.3-20130302.zip |
| 00:54.46 | JeffM | needhelp, get that one |
| 00:55.21 | Constitution | ~blast007++ |
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| 01:00.51 | Constitution | also, according to some estimates Snow Leopard may still account for 25 to 30% of all mac users at this point |
| 01:01.46 | Constitution | so I think it is very premature to drop 10.6 support from official binaries |
| 01:09.39 | blast007 | yeah, 10.6 might not be one to drop |
| 01:23.34 | blast007 | I think JeffM was thinking of 10.5, which was the last to support PPC |
| 01:24.58 | blast007 | needhelp: did the 2.4.3 binary that Constitution linked to you work? |
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| 01:46.34 | Snake12534 | Blast.. |
| 01:46.37 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o blast007] by ChanServ |
| 01:46.39 | Snake12534 | Stop banning me please. |
| 01:46.42 | Snake12534 | No, please. |
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| 01:55.18 | Constitution | why are we banning him? |
| 01:57.40 | blast007 | so we don't have to teach him how to write PHP here |
| 01:58.28 | allejo | lol |
| 01:58.30 | blast007 | he wants me to teach him to write PHP for GU league, as if that's something that'll just take a few minutes |
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| 02:01.41 | brlcad | Constitution: .bz upgraded to fast new hardware last week, if you uploaded relatively large files into the web root, they were probably held for review/manual sync (or they are already there in the attic) |
| 02:04.13 | blast007 | brlcad: in any case, we have the file on the bzflag.org VM now at a better URL |
| 02:04.58 | brlcad | sounds good |
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