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01:08.10alezakoskhonkhortisan: Revision 22668 *and* 8600 on the wiki
01:08.23khonkhortisanYes, I noticed just now
01:08.43khonkhortisanbut not about the wiki
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07:34.25Constitutionwhen items from the development roadmap are completed should they be crossed out, marked (done), or deleted?
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07:34.39Constitutionor none of the above
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07:36.49BulletCatcherA "(done as of rNNNNN)" note would be clear and informative.
08:07.49Constitutionok
08:09.43Constitutionthe revamped mac build system is listed on the roadmap for 2.4.6. assuming we're not actively pursuing a unified build system (cmake or equivalent), it is primarily done, although I do still want to tweak a few things and make some kind of automated way to package it for distribution
08:12.10Constitutionthere are problems with SDL that make current mac builds on Mountain Lion basically unplayable for mouse users. I am contemplating trying to code up native platform support for OS X so we could eliminate the dependency on SDL. in the meantime, if we need to push out a maintenance release, a build using the old system on Snow Leopard will still work
08:15.56BulletCatcherI have a Lion system available for development.
08:15.57BulletCatcherIs there any chance that building there with SDL would work better on Mountain Lion (due to use of older libraries, for instance)?
08:19.43ConstitutionI believe not? although it might be worth verifying. Apple changed a ton of stuff in 10.7/Xcode 4, and it appears that is likely the reason we cannot build against the older SDL (that actually works) on the later operating systems.
08:20.42Constitutionand it's the later versions of SDL (that are compatible with compiling on Lion and Moutain Lion) where there are mouse input issues
08:22.01BulletCatcherIt's worth a shot, so I'll give it a try next week.
08:22.03BulletCatcher(I left that Mac at the office, and Monday is a holiday.)
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13:10.08blast007Constitution: "later versions of SDL" meaning what?  newer 1.2.x versions?  or the 2.0 development version?
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21:43.06Notify03BZFlag:kongr45gpen * 22669 trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ScoreboardRenderer.cxx: Don't show normalized scores for observers on the scoreboard
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