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| 01:47.01 | sussudio | there was some lame noob on mofo earlier today who obviously edited random things in the client source but had no idea what he was doing... still ended up with the worst score |
| 01:53.32 | I_Died_Once | ...eh? |
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| 01:53.48 | I_Died_Once | how do you know they editing anything in their client's source? |
| 01:54.34 | I_Died_Once | sussudio, believe it or not... 1) not everyone on mofo cheats |
| 01:54.58 | I_Died_Once | and 2) we will perma-ban anyone who *is* caught or proved to have been cheating |
| 01:55.14 | JeffM | 3 psychics hooked up to a machine that knows all crimes! |
| 01:56.10 | I_Died_Once | we tend to ban first and ask questions later when it comes to cheating |
| 01:56.54 | I_Died_Once | those who are caught - we try to find out if we have an admin in their area to show up at their door |
| 01:57.43 | sussudio | I_Died_Once: first thing i noticed was that he didn't die when the rest of his team was genoed... |
| 01:58.01 | sussudio | then the permaseer, stuff like that |
| 01:58.02 | I_Died_Once | well, geno behves a lil differently |
| 01:58.17 | sussudio | he died when you shot him directly |
| 01:58.24 | I_Died_Once | if a player has shield and a team mate gets geno'd, you'll drop your shield and not die |
| 01:58.35 | sussudio | he didn't have shield, he had laser |
| 01:58.50 | I_Died_Once | then you need to start naming name |
| 01:58.51 | sussudio | unless he edited the shield bit in the source, ofcourse. |
| 01:58.55 | I_Died_Once | youcan whisper those |
| 01:59.24 | sussudio | forget the username. he was running 2.4.1-dev linux |
| 01:59.25 | I_Died_Once | but I do ask you don't go around talking about this as if we promote, encourage, or even allow cheating |
| 02:00.59 | I_Died_Once | if you see a cheater, let an admin know |
| 02:01.01 | sussudio | i've seen some people use the screenshot cheat since someone mentioned it a few days ago |
| 02:01.09 | I_Died_Once | or come by our chat and let us know there |
| 02:01.12 | I_Died_Once | ##planetmofo |
| 02:01.18 | sussudio | ok |
| 02:01.37 | JeffM | I'd be very curious how your reputation would change if you offered the same services under different names :) |
| 02:01.40 | I_Died_Once | one or another of us is usually active nearly 24/7 |
| 02:02.09 | I_Died_Once | Planet Warm Feelings & Hugs |
| 02:02.19 | sussudio | mofo has a lagkick, right? |
| 02:02.25 | JeffM | planet is so 2005 |
| 02:02.32 | I_Died_Once | yes, an automated one at that |
| 02:02.43 | sussudio | i've seen people with incredible lag, like 6000ms... |
| 02:02.46 | I_Died_Once | lag, jitter, packetloss.... |
| 02:02.51 | sussudio | mostly wurstmann |
| 02:03.10 | allejo | actually no jitterkick... |
| 02:03.13 | sussudio | still, he doesn't seem to get kicked |
| 02:04.40 | I_Died_Once | we need a machanism to charge people $5 to make cheat accusations |
| 02:06.35 | JeffM | so make one, website + paypal |
| 02:07.23 | I_Died_Once | yeah, and a censor to block messages containing the word "cheat" for unpaid accusers |
| 02:07.49 | I_Died_Once | if I had a dollar for every unfounded cheat accusation |
| 02:07.55 | I_Died_Once | I could go fill my gas tank |
| 02:09.29 | JeffM | you'd have to refund if they proved to be correct |
| 02:10.46 | sussudio | i wonder if anyone is using the delayed death cheat. |
| 02:11.21 | sussudio | i have actually seen the guided bullet one, but only once. |
| 02:15.49 | sussudio | http://bzfcheat.blogspot.nl/ < this one is really old |
| 02:16.01 | blast007 | do not link to cheat sites here, sussudio |
| 02:16.03 | JeffM | yeah we know, no neeed to spread the URL |
| 02:16.15 | JeffM | we know exactly why ALL the cheats happen |
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| 02:18.47 | sussudio | when someone kills me twice at the same moment (happens all the time on mofo), do they get 1 or 2 points? |
| 02:19.01 | blast007 | what? |
| 02:19.08 | blast007 | how do you die twice? |
| 02:19.17 | JeffM | only one death packet probably goes out |
| 02:19.17 | sussudio | beats me |
| 02:19.27 | sussudio | got shot by xxxxxx |
| 02:19.29 | sussudio | twice in a row |
| 02:21.06 | JeffM | if it's on mofo they handle there own scoring |
| 02:21.23 | sussudio | ok |
| 02:21.33 | sussudio | i've seen it occasionaly on other servers, though |
| 02:21.37 | JeffM | I would consider them "experimental" |
| 02:22.03 | JeffM | it would all depend on why it happens, if it's local issues on your end and you send out a single death message, one, if not then I dunno |
| 02:22.18 | JeffM | bzflag was never intended to be played on the internet ;) |
| 02:22.45 | sussudio | hmm. this flag stealing cheat would explain some things... |
| 02:22.54 | sussudio | i should really start logging. |
| 02:23.13 | sussudio | redirect to a logfile used to work |
| 02:23.22 | blast007 | -echo |
| 02:23.30 | sussudio | with a filename? |
| 02:23.48 | blast007 | no, I think it just tries to write out a file to the current working directory |
| 02:23.54 | sussudio | ok |
| 02:24.05 | blast007 | which probably won't work if you're not able to write to the program directory |
| 02:24.33 | JeffM | he's on XP |
| 02:25.02 | blast007 | well, I think he does have a Windows 7 system as well |
| 02:25.15 | sussudio | not yet |
| 02:25.18 | JeffM | then he does have "that .net crap" ;) |
| 02:25.18 | sussudio | didn't feel the need. |
| 02:25.25 | blast007 | swore you said yesterday you did |
| 02:25.32 | sussudio | i have the net crap installed on a pc i don't use |
| 02:26.13 | sussudio | was going to use it as an exactaudiocopy ripping pc, but the maker compiled a dll file wrong and it won't run on athlons :-| |
| 02:26.48 | sussudio | it causes a protection error when it's called |
| 02:27.08 | blast007 | protecting you from AMD products seems like a good feature. |
| 02:27.22 | sussudio | pets 800MHz athlon |
| 02:27.32 | sussudio | it's been serving me for over 10 years now. |
| 02:28.13 | JeffM | and that's why AMD is going out of biz, no new purchases |
| 02:28.20 | JeffM | that and the current CPUs are meh |
| 02:28.34 | blast007 | and their GPU drivers are "meh" as well |
| 02:29.01 | sussudio | well, the power usage of the newer CPUs is weird. 4-5 times as much as an equivalent intel cpu and they use more when idle than when you're actually using them. |
| 02:30.22 | sussudio | also, athlon xp's and after are a bit fragile... had a few die on me for no apparent reason. i could probably drive over my slot-a cpu and just plug it in again. |
| 03:11.36 | JeffM | I haven't had an AMD since 2 CPUs ago, i5 quad core is running just fine |
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