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| 00:03.16 | torands | hello |
| 00:03.28 | JeffM | hello |
| 00:04.36 | torands | If I want to help with BZFlag where would be a good place to start? Also which branch should I try working out on? |
| 00:05.06 | JeffM | all development goes into trunk |
| 00:05.12 | torands | *be working on? |
| 00:05.35 | JeffM | and there is the development roadmap on the wiki and the bugs list on sourceforge |
| 00:09.19 | torands | Oh and why the site redesign (curious) |
| 00:09.36 | JeffM | cus the old one was kinda booring and blast decided to redo it |
| 00:11.18 | torands | where does development for that take place? |
| 00:11.26 | JeffM | for the website? |
| 00:13.36 | torands | yes |
| 00:13.52 | JeffM | usualy just by blast or whoever wants to do it |
| 00:14.02 | JeffM | the code for it is in svn |
| 00:14.19 | JeffM | were you lookin to work on web stuff or actual game stuff? |
| 00:15.47 | torands | either but I have more experience with websites |
| 00:15.49 | blast007 | torands: if you're referring to the new BZFlag site development/code, that's over in my Bitbucket account in a Mercurial repo |
| 00:16.06 | JeffM | you should put that in svn dude :) |
| 00:16.21 | blast007 | prefers mercurial |
| 00:16.45 | JeffM | link to it on the source code wiki page then |
| 00:17.23 | JeffM | I don't know if there are any planing docs for web stuff |
| 00:17.35 | JeffM | we don't have very complex web needs |
| 00:23.13 | torands | why is there no Summer of Code entry for 2010+? |
| 00:23.25 | JeffM | we didn't do summer of code then |
| 00:23.30 | JeffM | we haven't done it for a while |
| 00:23.46 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: 03Blast 07http://wiki.bzflag.org * r8264 10/BZFlag_Source: Add info about main site. |
| 00:23.55 | JeffM | thanks blast007 |
| 00:27.36 | blast007 | I still need to implement the MOTD into the new site. |
| 00:32.09 | torands | what is the main file in the source? MainMenu? MainWindow? |
| 00:33.30 | blast007 | in the bzflag client? server? ..? |
| 00:33.39 | torands | client |
| 00:33.54 | JeffM | the main is part of the platform |
| 00:33.58 | JeffM | then it calls a commonmain |
| 00:34.22 | JeffM | I belive bzMain is in bzflag.cxx |
| 00:34.38 | JeffM | and that initalizes the other classes and subsystems |
| 00:37.12 | torands | okay thanks |
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| 03:01.45 | JeffM | hmmm stats won't use my custom 404 :( |
| 03:03.47 | JeffM | ahh modrewrite |
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| 03:55.52 | khonkhortisan | New product from apple: iSeeAll |
| 04:29.05 | JeffM | DTRemenak, what did you call that mod you had that let a player cycle thru flags? |
| 04:29.19 | DTRemenak | arsenal |
| 04:29.48 | JeffM | thanks |
| 04:29.59 | JeffM | someone proposed the same idea on the forums |
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| 06:14.56 | khonkhortisan | I read DEVINFO and it lead me to this http://bit.ly/H8gGOM |
| 06:15.34 | ts3d | Hehe, I like it. Bookmarked. |
| 07:04.48 | khonkhortisan | I can't play on planet mofo |
| 07:05.05 | khonkhortisan | and bzflag said the time was 0:00 |
| 07:05.27 | khonkhortisan | oh nevermind it's 24 hour time |
| 07:06.04 | khonkhortisan | but I can join mofo and see where the team flags are and see the banners change but not who's on or actually spawn |
| 07:17.18 | khonkhortisan | we need to recruit some night owls to play bzflag |
| 07:58.47 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: 03Khonkhortisan 07http://wiki.bzflag.org * r8265 10/Talk:Flag_ideas/Rejected: opposite meaning |
| 08:42.11 | CIA-104 | BZFlag: 03Youthfulhal86 07http://wiki.bzflag.org * r0 10/User:Youthfulhal86: |
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| 18:20.47 | blast007 | JeffM: would that flag "inventory" idea even require a proto break? I'd think the bzfs API could already give someone a different flag. |
| 18:21.18 | blast007 | the map woudl just need a "holding" area for the flags that are in people's inventory, but not currently being used. |
| 18:23.17 | JeffM | blast007, conceptualy you'd need controlls to say next flag and last flag |
| 18:23.21 | JeffM | so the user could swap |
| 18:23.27 | JeffM | but yeah most of the guts are there |
| 18:23.32 | JeffM | DTRemenak would know more |
| 18:23.42 | JeffM | but he's at a big meeting for the next 2 days |
| 18:23.46 | JeffM | he had it nearly implemented |
| 18:23.48 | blast007 | /slot 1 |
| 18:23.58 | blast007 | and then use quick keys |
| 18:24.03 | JeffM | possibly |
| 18:24.19 | JeffM | thats more config work for the end user then I'd want to include in an official released feature |
| 18:24.30 | JeffM | but yes there are probalby ways to do it now |
| 18:24.33 | JeffM | with some cheeze |
| 18:24.48 | blast007 | are we thinking this should be a built-in feature, or a plugin? |
| 18:25.03 | blast007 | (needs discussion either way, I suppose) |
| 18:25.11 | JeffM | I think dtrs was some new features that went along with a plugin |
| 18:25.15 | blast007 | k |
| 18:25.22 | JeffM | and yeah it had a reload time between flag swaps |
| 18:25.29 | JeffM | it made the client do a wait |
| 18:25.59 | JeffM | optimaly you'd want to be able to do flag swap on the wheel |
| 18:26.13 | blast007 | wheel is already used for other stuff |
| 18:26.16 | JeffM | and graphicaly I'd put the backup flags on the back of the tank smaller |
| 18:26.31 | JeffM | what does the default config use it for? |
| 18:26.47 | blast007 | scrolling chat, radar zooming, and possibly something else |
| 18:26.59 | JeffM | the default config ues it for ALL of that? |
| 18:27.06 | blast007 | pretty sure |
| 18:27.11 | JeffM | middle click is drop flag right? |
| 18:27.13 | blast007 | via modifier keys |
| 18:27.16 | blast007 | yeah |
| 18:27.25 | JeffM | then it would make sense to have flag change on the same wheel |
| 18:27.37 | JeffM | I'm sure something could be worked out |
| 18:27.47 | JeffM | but it probably means we need config sets too |
| 18:27.55 | JeffM | to make it easy to swap between bindings. |
| 18:27.56 | blast007 | just seems like a major gameplay change |
| 18:28.00 | JeffM | it is |
| 18:28.07 | JeffM | that's why I'd put in a proto release |
| 18:28.36 | blast007 | would save it for a new game ;) |
| 18:28.41 | JeffM | yeah |
| 18:28.58 | JeffM | one with out flags |
| 18:28.59 | blast007 | I just think it would complicate the game too much |
| 18:29.06 | JeffM | the current game is not ballanced for that |
| 18:29.10 | blast007 | yeah |
| 18:29.24 | JeffM | dtr said it was fun in his testing |
| 18:29.47 | JeffM | I belive he intends to get it into something if we ever get to another major |
| 18:29.58 | JeffM | he was pondering rolling it into 2.4 but never did anything |
| 18:30.45 | blast007 | I just think it'd be kinda confusing. |
| 18:31.00 | blast007 | it's not like we have weapon classes. |
| 18:31.07 | JeffM | yeah it could be |
| 18:31.22 | blast007 | and all our flags look the same. |
| 18:31.32 | JeffM | YEP |
| 18:32.24 | blast007 | If the game said "you have one primary weapon and one secondary weapon" and had visual representations, like a missile launcher on top when you had GM.. that I could see working better. |
| 18:32.59 | blast007 | it'd be obvious what you had without having to read some text or remembering, and the other players would know as well. |
| 19:34.20 | JeffM | blast007, oh I have gui Ideas for that :) |
| 19:34.36 | JeffM | and the tutorial will show you how to use the various pickups |
| 19:35.52 | blast007 | a tutorial? we must be talking about some other game, then. ;) |
| 19:36.14 | JeffM | yep |
| 19:36.40 | JeffM | that game now has working game state class that handles an authoritaive server :) |
| 19:36.52 | blast007 | cool |
| 19:37.06 | blast007 | you're using Google Code, right? |
| 19:37.11 | JeffM | nope |
| 19:37.16 | JeffM | it's on my own SVN |
| 19:37.30 | blast007 | ah |
| 19:38.06 | JeffM | right now the client is simulatiing 250ms lag |
| 20:00.20 | JeffM | tho I do wonder how one can import a private svn into google |
| 20:13.45 | CIA-104 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * r90 10/trunk/ (P2501 p2501_data): make way for the new coolness |
| 20:13.56 | JeffM | oh wow, that reports here... |
| 20:13.58 | CIA-104 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * r89 10/branches/old_p2501: make a backup of the old P2501 |
| 20:13.58 | JeffM | heh |
| 20:16.07 | JeffM | hmm lgpl or mpl |
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| 23:15.08 | JeffM | "maybe if I shove the 'bzflag on ipad' thread on the wrong forum it will magicaly happen... huyuk!" |
| 23:33.30 | blast007 | heh |
| 23:42.34 | blast007 | JeffM: I should make a new forum for porting the game, and have a locked topic for each platform that just says "NO" in big bold red letters. |
| 23:43.47 | JeffM | heh |
| 23:44.21 | JeffM | allow posts but have the system automaticly reply wiht NO everytime something is posted to it |
| 23:45.27 | blast007 | lol |
| 23:45.40 | blast007 | "NO. topic locked." |
| 23:46.13 | JeffM | why lock it, let them repply and get a new no |
| 23:48.07 | blast007 | heh |