| 00:01.31 | blast007 | I'll jury rig an MOTD in a bit.. need to get food first |
| 00:02.11 | blast007 | I'll purchase some paperclips and chewing gum as well |
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| 00:43.49 | JeffM | wow, that little necroposter dosnt' give up does he? |
| 00:44.22 | blast007 | MeFo is the best bzfs evar! |
| 00:45.01 | JeffM | I'd rate myself an 11 on a scale of one to5 |
| 00:46.29 | blast007 | looks like the DNS might have propigated now |
| 00:46.45 | JeffM | yep |
| 00:47.25 | JeffM | puts up a classy under construction page untill Quol gets his stuff commited |
| 00:47.38 | blast007 | make sure to include some animated GIFs |
| 00:47.46 | JeffM | blink tag |
| 00:48.19 | blast007 | <marquee><blink><h1>UNDER CONSTRUCTION</h1></blink></marquee> |
| 00:48.35 | blast007 | though that might actually KILL some people |
| 00:48.51 | JeffM | http://www.squidoo.com/under-construction-gif?utm_source=google&utm_medium=imgres&utm_campaign=framebuster |
| 00:48.54 | JeffM | the motherload! |
| 00:49.17 | blast007 | Select All, Paste, done! |
| 00:49.35 | JeffM | I think I'll give it an "alpha" tag |
| 00:49.46 | blast007 | heh |
| 01:05.31 | JeffM | how do I make a div always be at the bottom of the page? |
| 01:09.58 | blast007 | JeffM: position: fixed; bottom: 0; |
| 01:10.29 | blast007 | though it's less compatible with older browsers (some of the older ones do not support 'bottom' or 'right', only 'top' and 'left') |
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| 01:15.54 | JeffM | there we go |
| 01:15.59 | JeffM | no blink tags in site |
| 01:19.21 | JeffM | I could animate the caution tape |
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| 01:37.43 | JeffM | there, now it matches blast007's mainsite |
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| 01:46.51 | spldart | Workstation with a 42 " monitor.... Now that's how to play bzflag at work ;) XD |
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| 01:53.13 | JeffM | meh |
| 01:53.20 | JeffM | they are a bit too big for my taste |
| 01:53.40 | JeffM | the pixel density is rather low |
| 01:53.53 | JeffM | ibot happybir Constitution |
| 01:54.02 | JeffM | ibot sucks |
| 01:54.03 | ibot | only if you ask nicely and pay well. |
| 01:54.08 | blast007 | heh |
| 01:54.14 | JeffM | happy birthday Constitution |
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| 01:56.22 | davea1_ | anyone familiar with compiling bzflag on ubuntu |
| 01:56.40 | blast007 | yeah |
| 01:56.45 | davea1_ | "I get this error: no bzflag client binary! (need OpenGL)" |
| 01:56.57 | blast007 | which version of the code are you building? |
| 01:57.03 | davea1_ | 2.4 |
| 01:57.13 | blast007 | 2.4.0 from the source tar on sourceforge? |
| 01:57.17 | davea1_ | yes |
| 01:57.43 | blast007 | I'd recommend getting the trunk code from SVN, and then reading the README.Linux file |
| 01:57.47 | blast007 | ~bzsvn |
| 01:57.47 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, bzsvn is http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN and svn co https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/bzflag bzflag |
| 01:57.51 | davea1_ | ok |
| 01:58.25 | blast007 | the readme in 2.4.0 was a bit off (it still had remnants of 2.99.x requirements that aren't necessary) |
| 01:58.25 | davea1_ | blast007: I will try that |
| 01:58.25 | davea1_ | thanks! |
| 01:58.25 | blast007 | no prob |
| 02:00.13 | spldart | Haters :~p XD |
| 02:00.53 | spldart | Course... I'm the guy who was doing bzflag on a 13 foot diagnal screen with a projector when he had a house :-/ |
| 02:03.56 | spldart | Now themz some big (naughty word) pixels |
| 02:09.01 | davea1_ | blast007: BZFlag client .....: yes (with SDL) - yeah!!! |
| 02:09.18 | blast007 | :D |
| 02:28.01 | JeffM | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.41 | spldart | Yes.. that's it 10 per foot... Is there a 'that's what she said' joke in there o_O |
| 02:30.00 | JeffM | what resolution were you runnin? |
| 02:30.12 | spldart | full hd on the 42" 1920x1080 |
| 02:30.21 | JeffM | no on the projector |
| 02:30.31 | spldart | Oh... Old hd |
| 02:30.33 | spldart | not full hd |
| 02:30.45 | spldart | 720P was old hd... I was just a bit above that |
| 02:31.07 | spldart | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:31.17 | JeffM | musta been chunky |
| 02:31.27 | spldart | Looking for new projector |
| 02:31.32 | spldart | It wasn't so bad |
| 02:31.50 | JeffM | 1080 on a 42 is down to 35 pixels per inch |
| 02:32.19 | spldart | Is it? Doesn't look it. Looks very very sharp |
| 02:33.00 | spldart | Opened a service manual in adobe. amazing how much of the schematic i can look at and maintain a nice readable resolution compared to the old monitor.... |
| 02:33.31 | JeffM | sorry 52 ppi |
| 02:33.37 | JeffM | 35 was for 720 |
| 02:33.46 | JeffM | your 13 footer would have been under 10 pixels per inch |
| 02:33.48 | spldart | oh |
| 02:34.06 | spldart | anywho. old monitor was 21" and not near full hd |
| 02:34.19 | spldart | and projector was viewed at 18 to 21 foot distance |
| 02:34.28 | spldart | well |
| 02:34.34 | spldart | sometimes I got withing 12 foot |
| 02:34.49 | JeffM | normal computer displays run ppi in the 90 |
| 02:35.12 | spldart | Normal... Normal is what everyone else is and I am not ;) |
| 02:36.13 | spldart | Normal+Eexcess=me+(a-bit-much) |
| 02:36.30 | JeffM | bigger is not always better ;) |
| 02:36.53 | spldart | That's what my competition always said when I was in USAC and DBDrag ;) |
| 02:36.57 | spldart | but yeah |
| 02:37.03 | spldart | that lesson has been learned many times |
| 02:37.53 | spldart | well.. I'm not 13 foot. I'm not running my 52" panel... I'm running my 40 |
| 02:37.58 | spldart | I wont resort to the 32" |
| 02:38.06 | spldart | so I'm trading off |
| 02:41.26 | spldart | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.35 | spldart | meh... I'll shaddup now |
| 02:41.44 | spldart | Just having to much fun and giddy |
| 02:42.09 | JeffM | the only people I have seen that have been happy with TVs as monitors are usualy vislaly impaired in some way |
| 02:43.08 | spldart | lmao |
| 02:43.21 | JeffM | seriously |
| 02:43.30 | JeffM | most TVs are not made for crisp text |
| 02:44.06 | spldart | I'm a home theater tech. It's my job to make your audio visual experience tre bien |
| 02:44.27 | JeffM | typing an emailis not an audio/visual experience :) |
| 02:44.30 | spldart | true. you often have to adjust both the tv and the os for the best pic |
| 02:44.55 | spldart | also true.. But I've been intergrating pc and tv for years and helping others do the same for a long time |
| 02:44.58 | JeffM | and even then it won't be as good as a computer display |
| 02:45.07 | spldart | heck. Most receivers now have a pc hdmi input |
| 02:45.15 | JeffM | yeah |
| 02:45.37 | JeffM | many tvs still do overscan on HDMI and make it so you have to loose pixels on the display in the OS |
| 02:45.40 | spldart | I'm reading this at default debian font on a tv |
| 02:45.54 | spldart | though I will tweak it later |
| 02:45.55 | JeffM | do it for 8 hours a day ;) |
| 02:46.01 | spldart | I have. I will ;) |
| 02:46.10 | spldart | I am bench bound 3 day a week |
| 02:46.15 | spldart | reading schematics |
| 02:46.23 | spldart | I'll be fine |
| 02:46.52 | spldart | and yeah... the better the tv, panel in the tv, the better the interface with pc |
| 02:47.04 | JeffM | unless you get lucky |
| 02:47.10 | JeffM | my crappy dynex works prefectly |
| 02:47.33 | spldart | High refresh rate on decent samsung panel often does well |
| 03:12.31 | Foo_man_choo | oo... oooo oooo... through a blu ray movie on... ugh... i really need to shaddup.... squeeee |
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| 17:26.45 | I_Died_Once | does anyone know of any sort of "always on" steamroller cheat? |
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| 18:23.07 | kierra | is bzbb /listserver down for y'all? |
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| 18:30.35 | I_Died_Once | from forums.bzflag.org |
| 18:30.37 | I_Died_Once | General Error |
| 18:30.37 | I_Died_Once | SQL ERROR [ mysqli ] |
| 18:30.37 | I_Died_Once | Too many connections [1040] |
| 18:30.37 | I_Died_Once | An sql error occurred while fetching this page. Please contact an administrator if this problem persists. |
| 18:30.51 | I_Died_Once | some of you need to log off so i can log in |
| 18:37.15 | blast007 | checking.. slow to log in via ssh.. |
| 18:39.06 | blast007 | wow... crazy load avg |
| 18:39.30 | blast007 | load average: 7.57, 28.60, 50.02 |
| 18:39.45 | Quol | wow |
| 18:46.41 | blast007 | seems fine now |
| 18:47.46 | Cobra_Fast | the forums still react a bit "cheesy" |
| 18:51.50 | Cobra_Fast | blast007: props on that new website! |
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| 20:56.09 | khonkhortisan | How do I see tank tracks as smoke instead of treads or puddles? |
| 20:59.40 | Cobra_Fast | i think theres a patch for that somewhere around the forums |
| 21:00.45 | khonkhortisan | I see a mention of it in current code but no way to turn it on, I'll go look |
| 21:04.13 | blast007 | where in the code? |
| 21:04.34 | khonkhortisan | TrackMarks.cxx:37 is where it's defined |
| 21:05.14 | khonkhortisan | and having a mirrored ground makes it switch from treads to puddle |
| 21:05.31 | khonkhortisan | but I don't see when it would switch to smoke |
| 21:09.01 | blast007 | looks like it isn't hooked up |
| 21:09.25 | blast007 | which may mean it doesn't work. dunno. |
| 21:10.40 | blast007 | http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag?view=revision&revision=8947 |
| 21:11.53 | khonkhortisan | oh nevermind line 180 says not implemented |
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| 21:19.40 | helaa | hey |
| 21:19.46 | helaa | when i try to join planet mofo |
| 21:19.54 | helaa | it just seems to sit there but i can never spawn |
| 21:21.56 | JeffM | do other servers work? |
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| 21:31.21 | helaa | jes Jeff |
| 21:31.25 | helaa | yes* |
| 21:32.19 | helaa | I can also see the team scores. |
| 21:32.28 | helaa | maybe relevant: MOTD doesn't show up |
| 21:35.27 | khonkhortisan | possibly a firewall |
| 21:35.30 | JeffM | the MOTD was disabled recently |
| 21:35.34 | khonkhortisan | oh |
| 21:35.45 | JeffM | firewall woudl affect multiple servers |
| 21:35.52 | JeffM | you would have to ask them directly |
| 21:36.07 | JeffM | they may have your IP in a banlist |
| 21:36.16 | blast007 | it's probably a hostban |
| 21:36.20 | JeffM | yeah |
| 21:36.31 | JeffM | send IDiedOnce a pm on bzbb |
| 21:36.40 | blast007 | ah, yeah, arcor-ip.net |
| 21:36.49 | blast007 | You'll need to get whitelisted. |
| 21:39.28 | Cobra_Fast | oh boy, i just dont know why admins still ban entire ISPs |
| 21:39.41 | JeffM | it's easy |
| 21:41.25 | khonkhortisan | wikipedia banned my school |
| 21:41.41 | helaa | okay |
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| 21:42.33 | helaa | blast007: are you a planet m admin? |
| 21:42.49 | helaa | Delusional might be.. |
| 21:42.49 | blast007 | no |
| 21:43.00 | JeffM | send them a PM |
| 21:43.06 | Delusional | helaa: wuzzup? |
| 21:43.10 | JeffM | whitelists and bans are private issues |
| 21:43.19 | JeffM | Delusional, he needs help getting into mofo, msg him |
| 21:43.27 | blast007 | Cobra_Fast: because there are asshats from certain ISPs :P |
| 21:43.48 | blast007 | and because ISPs give highly dynamic IPs to said asshats. |
| 21:44.14 | Cobra_Fast | every ISP has those kind of (ab)users ... why not ban * ? |
| 21:44.31 | blast007 | some ISPs it's more of an issue |
| 21:44.35 | JeffM | Cobra_Fast, some have more then others |
| 21:44.55 | blast007 | arcor-ip.net is one I've banned as well due to all the abuse |
| 21:45.05 | blast007 | iirc, zwergy uses that one |
| 21:45.50 | Cobra_Fast | i think half the people in my state use it |
| 21:46.06 | Cobra_Fast | (yes, zwergy is from here too) |
| 21:46.09 | JeffM | have the server require registation, then it dosn't ever have to ban on IP |
| 21:47.17 | blast007 | still not a viable option for bz, especially with the current state of the player base |
| 21:47.46 | JeffM | oh god no |
| 21:48.35 | JeffM | hostbans work in BZ because the playerbase is so very very small |
| 21:48.42 | khonkhortisan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:50.19 | blast007 | khonkhortisan: servers that require registration don't let you spawn, much less speak |
| 21:50.44 | blast007 | generally, at least |
| 21:50.55 | khonkhortisan | but they don't tell you why |
| 21:51.42 | blast007 | yeah, well, welcome to a poorly coded game with an authentication system duct taped on after the fact ;) |
| 21:52.30 | JeffM | bzflag was never meant to play on the internet |
| 21:54.49 | khonkhortisan | there's a younger game wanting to get away from lan also |
| 21:56.26 | helaa | another question: my macbook air really heats up during bz |
| 21:56.28 | helaa | any fixes? |
| 21:56.38 | khonkhortisan | power save? |
| 21:56.46 | blast007 | get a PC? |
| 21:56.50 | helaa | zing.. |
| 21:57.16 | JeffM | how many fps do you get? |
| 21:57.41 | JeffM | hit T in game to see |
| 21:59.31 | helaa | guess like 90 |
| 21:59.52 | helaa | dont think its limited atm |
| 22:00.07 | JeffM | that is making your heat |
| 22:00.17 | JeffM | turn on power save mode in the options |
| 22:00.19 | blast007 | Have you tried playing when the macbook air isn't stuffed inside a manila envelope? I heard that causes overheating in some cases. ;) |
| 22:00.45 | JeffM | thats an intel chipset right? |
| 22:01.27 | blast007 | the air had intel or nvidia, depending on which version |
| 22:01.43 | JeffM | 90 would be very low for nvidia |
| 22:04.47 | blast007 | not necessarily. the CPU isn't too hot, and it's low end nvidias. |
| 22:05.27 | blast007 | 9400M in one version, paired with a 1.6GHz or 1.86GHz C2D |
| 22:05.42 | blast007 | and it's the mac drivers :P |
| 22:07.27 | helaa | will try, jeff |
| 22:07.28 | helaa | thanks |
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| 23:53.29 | khonkhortisan | Would extending the thief radius be a blatant or subtle cheat? |
| 23:59.29 | khonkhortisan | s/Would/is/ |
| 23:59.38 | khonkhortisan | *Is |