| 00:00.25 | Foo_man_choo | meh.... |
| 00:00.33 | Foo_man_choo | plays some more |
| 00:03.54 | blast007 | JeffM: google analytics is enabled on the main site now |
| 00:04.02 | JeffM | cool |
| 00:04.03 | blast007 | I'll need to add it to the forum/wiki yet |
| 00:04.08 | JeffM | and this has a real downloads page |
| 00:04.19 | JeffM | so we can khow if they realy do stop at the screenshots |
| 00:05.36 | blast007 | and we should even be able to track if they click on the download links: http://code.google.com/apis/analytics/docs/tracking/eventTrackerGuide.html |
| 00:05.58 | JeffM | wcpp; |
| 00:06.01 | JeffM | wow |
| 00:06.02 | JeffM | cool |
| 00:06.38 | blast007 | probably not 100% reliable, but it's something |
| 00:06.45 | Foo_man_choo | ;( servers are so dead :( |
| 00:08.43 | JeffM | Foo_man_choo, there should be 7 games on now |
| 00:08.47 | JeffM | with 52 people |
| 00:08.51 | JeffM | mofo has 24 players |
| 00:09.14 | JeffM | norang has 10 |
| 00:09.33 | Foo_man_choo | oh... wait... on old debian on eee pc |
| 00:09.39 | a_meteorite | hah |
| 00:09.43 | Foo_man_choo | I'm prolly on last revistion |
| 00:09.44 | JeffM | yeah that's 2.x |
| 00:09.46 | a_meteorite | you need 2.4 |
| 00:09.48 | Foo_man_choo | yeppers |
| 00:09.56 | JeffM | there is no package for 2.4 yet |
| 00:09.57 | Foo_man_choo | ugh |
| 00:10.00 | blast007 | even new debian has 2.0, so far ;) |
| 00:10.01 | JeffM | build it |
| 00:10.17 | blast007 | has been too lazy to work on that |
| 00:10.21 | Foo_man_choo | wait... did I mention... eee pc with only 4 gig flash ssd |
| 00:10.26 | Foo_man_choo | so uhm... yeah |
| 00:10.29 | JeffM | Foo_man_choo, here are the 2.4 stats, http://quol.bzflag.net/ |
| 00:10.41 | Foo_man_choo | I'm so fubar till I get my new ssd |
| 00:10.43 | blast007 | Foo_man_choo: no flash drive you can mount? :) |
| 00:10.50 | Foo_man_choo | in this rig ... and knew ssd |
| 00:11.07 | JeffM | don't play games on a machine made for taking notes |
| 00:11.16 | Foo_man_choo | I got lots of flash drives... 1 1 gig, 1 2 gig, 1 4 gig and 1 8 gig |
| 00:11.27 | Foo_man_choo | Haven't you heard? I |
| 00:11.29 | Foo_man_choo | I |
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| 00:11.44 | blast007 | c-c-c-c-combo beaker |
| 00:11.47 | Foo_man_choo | I'm a gypsty now |
| 00:11.50 | Foo_man_choo | yeah |
| 00:12.00 | Foo_man_choo | small keyboard for the epic lose |
| 00:12.09 | Foo_man_choo | gypsy |
| 00:12.28 | Foo_man_choo | anywho |
| 00:12.35 | blast007 | yeah, I was trying a netbook at work |
| 00:12.39 | Foo_man_choo | I'm living out of to small cases |
| 00:12.40 | blast007 | and I realized I will never ever buy one |
| 00:12.46 | Foo_man_choo | two small cases |
| 00:13.06 | Foo_man_choo | so full sized laptop = n/g |
| 00:13.24 | JeffM | fun |
| 00:13.41 | Foo_man_choo | well... ok.... guess I'll wait and get the ssd and a faster netbook |
| 00:14.02 | blast007 | faster netbook? they have those? |
| 00:14.14 | Foo_man_choo | this one does alright on the older servers with the graphics turned down |
| 00:14.42 | Foo_man_choo | frags blast with a android tablet |
| 00:14.43 | blast007 | the AMD Fusion might not be *terrible*, but still going to be a bit weak |
| 00:14.56 | Foo_man_choo | I |
| 00:14.59 | Foo_man_choo | ugh |
| 00:15.04 | Foo_man_choo | that enter key is to close |
| 00:15.07 | blast007 | hehe |
| 00:15.25 | Foo_man_choo | I'm gonna be doin hotel rooms and friends houses for a good while |
| 00:15.38 | Foo_man_choo | but... setting up a quad core at work |
| 00:15.54 | Foo_man_choo | I assume you got a exe for windows for 2.4 |
| 00:15.58 | blast007 | yup |
| 00:16.06 | blast007 | that one is easy ;) |
| 00:16.14 | Foo_man_choo | well then ... win |
| 00:16.19 | Foo_man_choo | I mean win |
| 00:16.20 | Foo_man_choo | lol |
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| 00:16.36 | blast007 | win for windows! |
| 00:16.46 | Foo_man_choo | one win... I'm keeping tabs |
| 00:17.56 | Foo_man_choo | so... no .deb that this little monster can dpkg -i as root? |
| 00:18.16 | blast007 | what debian is it? |
| 00:18.54 | blast007 | cuz if it's Squeeze, I might have one |
| 00:19.07 | Foo_man_choo | 2.6.26-2-686 last stable... not current |
| 00:19.14 | blast007 | no, what debian version? |
| 00:19.22 | blast007 | lenny? squeeze? |
| 00:19.22 | Foo_man_choo | will reinstall when I get new ssd |
| 00:19.40 | Foo_man_choo | stable before current |
| 00:19.48 | Foo_man_choo | grr... lemme look it up |
| 00:19.49 | blast007 | so lenny |
| 00:19.52 | blast007 | debian 5 |
| 00:19.55 | Foo_man_choo | sounds right |
| 00:20.04 | blast007 | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 00:21.13 | Foo_man_choo | 5.0.10 |
| 00:21.18 | Foo_man_choo | so yeah |
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| 00:24.59 | Foo_man_choo | wt..... not sure of my connection atm |
| 00:32.39 | Foo_man_choo | while we are talking deb packages for lenny..... How bout squeeze 64 bit? |
| 00:32.55 | Foo_man_choo | lenny = x86 |
| 00:34.18 | blast007 | squeeze is the version I've been working making the .deb with |
| 00:34.30 | blast007 | so I would have a 64-bit squeeze deb |
| 00:34.42 | blast007 | not 100% polished, but it works |
| 00:35.24 | Foo_man_choo | ooOOoo... work tomorrow... I wanna try it |
| 00:35.47 | blast007 | let me see if I have one uploaded |
| 00:35.54 | Foo_man_choo | I'm thinking picolo is based on clint eastwood... well.. the early episodes |
| 00:36.34 | Foo_man_choo | current work machine is amd dual core running 2 gig ram. win 7 and deb current stable |
| 00:36.36 | Foo_man_choo | but I |
| 00:36.42 | Foo_man_choo | m ....ugh... enter key again |
| 00:37.08 | Foo_man_choo | but Im replacing it with a quad core black edition x64 processor. |
| 00:37.10 | Foo_man_choo | 4 gig ram |
| 00:37.48 | Foo_man_choo | wanna redo everything.... win7 was impressive but it has a HUGE footprint |
| 00:38.05 | Foo_man_choo | xo xp pro corp and current deb |
| 00:39.11 | Foo_man_choo | and of course.... all the build dependencies |
| 00:44.31 | Foo_man_choo | what is the checkout for 2.4 code? Now that I think of it... this netbook might.... just might have the build dependencies in place |
| 00:49.10 | brad | ~bzsvn |
| 00:49.10 | ibot | rumour has it, bzsvn is http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN and svn co https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/bzflag bzflag |
| 00:54.59 | Foo_man_choo | thanks... doin a checkout. gonna see what's what in a min |
| 00:57.22 | blast007 | how much space do you have free? |
| 00:58.26 | Foo_man_choo | oOo... good question |
| 00:58.40 | JeffM | it may not build in 4 gigs |
| 00:58.49 | blast007 | a build with just bzfs/bzadmin takes up at least 200MB |
| 00:59.07 | blast007 | and that's not counting installing the thing, nor any other temporary files (ccache, etc) that it generates |
| 00:59.10 | JeffM | put the source on an 8 gig flash and build from there |
| 00:59.12 | Foo_man_choo | 6/7 of that.... looking fo space now |
| 00:59.21 | blast007 | df -h |
| 00:59.36 | Foo_man_choo | course... got that option too. |
| 00:59.57 | blast007 | might need to format the flash drive to some other filesystem though |
| 00:59.57 | Foo_man_choo | as long as I set permission a fat drive 8 gig flash drive to do builds |
| 01:00.03 | blast007 | FAT32 would be a bit wacky |
| 01:00.09 | Foo_man_choo | yep yep |
| 01:01.20 | Foo_man_choo | /dev/sda1 3858204 3539296 201316 95% / |
| 01:01.35 | Foo_man_choo | looks for alot more space |
| 01:01.40 | JeffM | use the flash drive |
| 01:01.43 | JeffM | it'll be a lot simpler |
| 01:01.45 | blast007 | so, yeah, no, don't try to build on your internal drive ;D |
| 01:03.05 | JeffM | that close to full, you may not have enough room for the dependencies |
| 01:03.54 | blast007 | oh, yeah, my 200MB also doesn't include building any of our included dependencies - I have them all system installed ;) |
| 01:04.27 | Foo_man_choo | poo |
| 01:04.46 | blast007 | so it'd probably be a safer bet to expect 500MB of usage |
| 01:04.56 | Foo_man_choo | last time I tried to build on a non root drive I got alot of issues with permissions and ish |
| 01:05.08 | Foo_man_choo | but.... |
| 01:05.09 | Foo_man_choo | I |
| 01:05.18 | Foo_man_choo | ll manage |
| 01:08.24 | Foo_man_choo | /dev/sda1 3858204 3339888 400724 90% and working some more |
| 01:10.41 | blast007 | if the flash drive was formatted ext3, it should work okay |
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| 01:33.51 | Foo_man_choo | all the flash drives are fat32 or ntfs to facilitate win deb r/w ability |
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| 01:38.03 | blast007 | fat32/ntfs won't work well on linux for anything but storing documents/media |
| 01:38.47 | blast007 | if you're intending to compile software off a flash drive, you'd want to use some linux file system like ext3 (though perhaps ext2 is better for a flash drive..dunno) |
| 01:39.07 | blast007 | fat32/ntfs can't handle linux file permissions |
| 01:39.19 | Foo_man_choo | that's what I thought |
| 01:39.27 | Foo_man_choo | ext2 ftw... |
| 01:39.41 | Foo_man_choo | but minimum drive size? |
| 01:39.51 | blast007 | shrugs |
| 01:40.05 | JeffM | your 4 gig ssd is formated ext3 |
| 01:40.38 | Foo_man_choo | that's root and pretty.. wait.... yeah.... juitst gotta empty it a b |
| 01:40.54 | Foo_man_choo | god... what am I clicking that moves cursor in a bit |
| 01:43.03 | Foo_man_choo | sda1 is root and full... trying o make space |
| 01:43.21 | Foo_man_choo | usbstick, transcend1 and transcend2 are fat32 |
| 01:43.31 | JeffM | they all come that way |
| 01:43.33 | JeffM | reformat it |
| 01:43.44 | Foo_man_choo | so yeah ;_) |
| 01:43.46 | Foo_man_choo | make space |
| 01:43.51 | Foo_man_choo | then format |
| 01:44.02 | JeffM | formating will wipe the flashdrive |
| 01:44.39 | Foo_man_choo | I just moved.. so... my mini usb hdd, my 2 tb usb3.0 hdd and all my usb thumbs = full... so yeah yeah. ;) |
| 01:44.52 | Foo_man_choo | gotta make space |
| 01:45.00 | Foo_man_choo | back up data... |
| 01:45.59 | JeffM | if you are that short on space, you should not be playing games :) |
| 01:49.42 | Foo_man_choo | right..... I should be getting a new, bigger pcie ssd and shove it in here and install current stable debian right? |
| 01:50.01 | JeffM | or an external USB drive |
| 01:50.28 | Foo_man_choo | bleh... usb 2.0 is slow.... as I have found out now that I have my first 3.0 externeal hdd |
| 01:50.41 | Foo_man_choo | wowzers |
| 01:52.16 | Foo_man_choo | ok... I'm done... either I download an insallable deb from blast or I get something goin at work on the better machine and stop comnplining ;) |
| 01:52.22 | Foo_man_choo | complaining |
| 01:52.41 | Foo_man_choo | heh... compiling... that's an uninttended pun |
| 01:53.47 | Foo_man_choo | ugh.. now it's to late to get drunk :( |
| 03:05.42 | Foo_man_choo | passes out dreaming of bulma |
| 03:05.44 | Foo_man_choo | ;) |
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| 10:53.39 | linuxdude2 | hey |
| 10:53.43 | linuxdude2 | i have a question |
| 10:54.17 | linuxdude2 | how come i can't link two teleporters?? |
| 10:54.19 | linuxdude2 | with this code?? |
| 10:54.25 | linuxdude2 | teleporter |
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| 11:17.33 | blast007 | kierra: musta just been a temporary network glitch at the host - seems fine now, at least |
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| 16:19.48 | JeffM | blast007, I like the sugestion of linking to stats, we can use quol's code for that, but I am not sold on linking to "leagues" since what ones do we link to? |
| 17:13.22 | blast007 | yeah, previous we had a 'CTF League' link that went to the Ducati league. If anything, I'd probably link to a wiki page listing the leagues. |
| 17:13.36 | blast007 | but I think the people that want to play in a league can figure out where to go |
| 17:15.31 | JeffM | I think that there should be a leagues section in the getting started part |
| 17:15.37 | JeffM | and that can link to other pages |
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| 17:32.19 | JeffM | blast007, would you want to run stats on another VM? |
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| 17:38.25 | blast007 | JeffM: how hungry is the stats system? |
| 17:38.40 | blast007 | space-wise, I'd probably have to upgrade the VM for all the mono stuff |
| 17:38.45 | blast007 | but I might do that anyway |
| 17:42.17 | JeffM | blast007, not much |
| 17:42.38 | blast007 | do you know what mono packages it needs installed? |
| 17:42.38 | JeffM | I was just thinking that we get another VM, I'll pay for it, then we'll have another machine on a different ISP as a backup |
| 17:42.48 | blast007 | ah |
| 17:42.52 | JeffM | mono and the sql .net connector |
| 17:43.26 | JeffM | I was just thinking eggs in multiple baskets |
| 17:45.54 | blast007 | I'd be nice to have full control of our DNS at some point as well ;) |
| 17:46.17 | JeffM | yeah and if we have 2 servers we can have them be the dns servers ;) |
| 17:46.26 | blast007 | bleh.. |
| 17:46.38 | JeffM | just host it somewhere ? |
| 17:46.42 | blast007 | yeah :) |
| 17:46.48 | JeffM | who do you use? |
| 17:47.02 | blast007 | I just use my domain registrar, NameCheap |
| 17:47.15 | JeffM | I wonder who bzflag is reged thru |
| 17:47.20 | blast007 | GoDaddy, I think |
| 17:47.26 | JeffM | they provide dns too |
| 17:47.52 | blast007 | and free headaches with every non-domain purchase (and domain purchases too!) |
| 17:48.05 | JeffM | yeah weeding thru all that does suck |
| 17:48.48 | JeffM | I don't think tim will ever give it up |
| 17:48.50 | blast007 | I tried name.com recently as well, but they lack some nice features that namecheap.com has. with namecheap.com, you can delegate out control of some parts of your domain to other users. |
| 17:48.55 | blast007 | like DNS control. |
| 17:49.03 | JeffM | ahh cool |
| 17:52.27 | JeffM | well you know more about hosting then I do, it's up to you |
| 17:52.42 | JeffM | I'm willing to get another vps |
| 17:52.45 | blast007 | think It'd be too risky for 2.4.2 to default to talking to the list server over HTTPS? |
| 17:53.04 | JeffM | I don't think we build curl with SSL |
| 17:53.11 | JeffM | only system curls have SSL |
| 17:53.27 | JeffM | I wold have to change how windows builds as well |
| 17:53.32 | blast007 | k |
| 17:53.40 | blast007 | so maybe some other day then |
| 17:54.01 | blast007 | it's just that I have some SSL certs lying around my namecheap account gathering dust ;) |
| 17:54.03 | JeffM | if you wanted to do that then I'd make a wraper around curl and have windows use the built in stuff. |
| 17:54.16 | JeffM | I'd not waste them on bzflag ;) |
| 17:54.33 | JeffM | hmmm... mixed mode bzflag |
| 17:54.41 | blast007 | they were free ones with my domain transfers (though I waited too long and now they need a $2 activation fee) |
| 17:54.55 | JeffM | still a good price |
| 17:55.18 | JeffM | I would not use them for bzflag untill you had control of the dns |
| 17:57.00 | blast007 | k |
| 18:03.47 | JeffM | I've also wanted to get another VPS to test the instance managment stuff |
| 18:03.56 | JeffM | this would let it do some good while it sits there too |
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| 22:41.58 | spldart | i know it's old tech but is a GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP still a decent vid card? |
| 22:49.19 | spldart | I assume it would still fly bzflag maxed out settings |