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| 00:55.18 | blast007 | is our current mac binary a 10.4+ PPC/Intel universal? |
| 00:57.09 | Delusional | I think they broke out of universal... If you want to run on a non-intel processor, you gotta compile yourself... but don't listen to me |
| 00:57.45 | JeffM | I recall that too |
| 00:58.27 | blast007 | ah |
| 00:58.44 | blast007 | is there a way to check? |
| 00:59.12 | JeffM | ask const |
| 00:59.24 | JeffM | or open the.app |
| 00:59.31 | JeffM | see if there are 2 platforms |
| 01:00.51 | blast007 | blast@porteighty:~/BZFlag-2.4.0.app/Contents/MacOS$ file bzflag |
| 01:00.52 | blast007 | bzflag: Mach-O fat file with 2 architectures |
| 01:01.03 | JeffM | then there ya go |
| 01:01.10 | blast007 | assuming that's accurate, anyway :) |
| 01:01.13 | blast007 | doing it from linux |
| 01:01.38 | JeffM | apple has forsaken PPC, so can we :) |
| 01:01.58 | blast007 | just want to make sure I'm giving accurate info on the download page |
| 01:03.28 | JeffM | safest to say intel only until we know for sure |
| 01:06.07 | blast007 | Delusional: can you check on your end if it says it's a universal binary? right click on the BZFlag .app and go to 'Get Info'. Should be listed under General. |
| 01:06.42 | blast007 | should say at the end of the 'Kind: Application' line |
| 01:07.40 | Delusional | it says universal BZFLAG 2.4.0 57.5 MB created july 5 2011 |
| 01:07.46 | blast007 | k |
| 01:07.54 | blast007 | thanks |
| 01:29.19 | blast007 | JeffM: what do you think should be the visual representation of the "Low system requirements" tagline? |
| 01:31.15 | blast007 | is reminded of this: http://forums.bzflag.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=56&p=340&hilit=rocks#p340 |
| 01:42.17 | Gabe_G23 | hmm negative time on strayer's website |
| 01:42.24 | Gabe_G23 | O.o |
| 01:43.18 | mdskpr_ | negative time? it means 12 mins ago... |
| 01:43.57 | Gabe_G23 | nope |
| 01:44.00 | Gabe_G23 | -12 min :P |
| 01:44.37 | mdskpr_ | oh la its -10 min now :p |
| 01:44.42 | Gabe_G23 | yep |
| 01:48.36 | blast007 | welcome... TO THE WOOOOORRRLLLD OF TOMORRROOOWWWWW!! |
| 01:53.11 | Gabe_G23 | lol futurama |
| 01:53.39 | blast007 | ;) |
| 01:54.54 | Gabe_G23 | mdskpr_: it got to zero, think it will asplode now? |
| 01:55.06 | Gabe_G23 | it still thinks i'm online, lol. |
| 01:57.40 | mdskpr_ | la its going positive |
| 01:58.25 | blast007 | so maybe the sudden drop in the server count earlier (at least as shown on strayer's site) was a problem with his site ;) |
| 01:58.46 | blast007 | earlier, as in, 20-some hours ago |
| 02:56.28 | JeffM | blast007, use a screenshot of a box world |
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| 21:31.54 | CIA-104 | bzflag_main_website: 03Scott Wichser <blast007@users.sourceforge.net> * 8699e996f593 r24 10/application/views/ (download.tpl.php header.tpl.php): Make the download page functional. |
| 21:31.54 | CIA-104 | bzflag_main_website: 03Scott Wichser <blast007@users.sourceforge.net> * 81b7dec86773 r25 10/ (9 files in 4 dirs): Replace the slideshow text/images with proper content. Still need a league play image. |
| 21:31.55 | CIA-104 | bzflag_main_website: 03Scott Wichser <blast007@users.sourceforge.net> * e25fa5393acf r26 10/application/views/home.tpl.php: Less latin, more content! |
| 21:31.55 | CIA-104 | bzflag_main_website: 03Scott Wichser <blast007@users.sourceforge.net> * a1c2392e5974 r27 10/application/views/credits.tpl.php: Close the list. |
| 21:31.55 | CIA-104 | bzflag_main_website: 03Scott Wichser <blast007@users.sourceforge.net> * 8414fcdaca52 r28 10/application/config/routes.php: Simplify the routes. |
| 21:31.55 | CIA-104 | bzflag_main_website: 03Scott Wichser <blast007@users.sourceforge.net> * 6ff3d0d00fa9 r29 10/application/ (controllers/main.controller.php views/support.tpl.php): Add the support page. |
| 21:31.56 | CIA-104 | bzflag_main_website: 03Scott Wichser <blast007@users.sourceforge.net> * 60b37893f2cf r30 10/htdocs/resources/images/slides/slide3.png: Add the league play image. |
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| 21:52.50 | short_circuit | I hope this paste isn't to many lines.... |
| 21:52.52 | short_circuit | james@debian-netbook:~$ bzflag |
| 21:52.53 | short_circuit | X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) |
| 21:52.53 | short_circuit | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.53 | short_circuit | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.53 | short_circuit | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.53 | short_circuit | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.55 | short_circuit | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:53.02 | short_circuit | it wont run on my eee pc any more |
| 21:53.42 | short_circuit | hrm... maybe it's the external monitor I'm running to watch dbz episodes |
| 21:53.43 | short_circuit | dunno |
| 21:53.47 | L4m3r | looks like it might be attempting to set a resolution too high. have you tried setting it in your conf? |
| 21:54.35 | L4m3r | also, bzflag on netbooks sucks :P |
| 21:54.47 | short_circuit | conf default... eee 900 is a widescreen. but currently doin external monitor into a dell monitor so I can watch dbz.tv |
| 21:55.23 | short_circuit | yeah... well.. I'm currently EXTREMELY MOBILE. So... yeah. |
| 21:55.57 | short_circuit | if anything.. i'm to low resolution |
| 21:56.11 | short_circuit | 800x600 |
| 21:56.20 | short_circuit | cuz gpu on eee is so weaksauce |
| 21:56.22 | short_circuit | meh |
| 21:57.19 | short_circuit | perhaps ... crap! I just mistyped this channel into a seperate window... I hate it when that happens... stupid small keyboard |
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| 21:57.56 | short_circuit | much better |
| 22:00.12 | short_circuit | yep... start windowed. change to current res... fixed |
| 22:00.39 | short_circuit | whew |
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| 22:05.26 | JeffM | did you build with SDL? |
| 22:09.04 | blast007 | I'll be going live with the new site shortly.. anything else that needs to be tweaked? http://bzflag.porteighty.org |
| 22:09.24 | blast007 | gonna do a couple things quick, like replacing the slider images with JPEGs |
| 22:11.08 | brad | wow, nice work |
| 22:11.46 | blast007 | thanks :) |
| 22:11.59 | JeffM | I'd say "low system requiremens" not "runs on older computers" |
| 22:12.07 | JeffM | we may not run on some older OSs |
| 22:12.16 | JeffM | depending on runtimes and the like |
| 22:12.17 | blast007 | k |
| 22:12.49 | JeffM | I'd also call Download, Downloads, because there is more then one |
| 22:13.07 | JeffM | and call support "help" |
| 22:13.20 | JeffM | that will be simpler on non english speakers |
| 22:13.56 | JeffM | replace BZFlag2.99 videos with "BZFlag development videos" so we don't commit to a release |
| 22:14.32 | JeffM | it would be nice to have a regular playing video for 2.4 as well |
| 22:14.51 | JeffM | while KTLs line one is pretty it is not represenative of play |
| 22:15.38 | blast007 | yeah, I might remove the 2.4 video for now |
| 22:15.41 | JeffM | other then that the rest looks fine |
| 22:16.18 | JeffM | on the credits page I'd put "Operatiing system logos are copyright of there respective owners" just to be safe |
| 22:16.24 | KTL | mmm |
| 22:16.27 | blast007 | not happy with the actual video itself anyway (too dark due to uploading the raw FRAPs file, resolution was 1920x1200 instead of x1080, etc) |
| 22:16.37 | KTL | line one? |
| 22:16.55 | blast007 | Delirious City |
| 22:17.03 | KTL | ah |
| 22:17.17 | JeffM | later it would be nice to change out the screenshots for some more playing ones on good maps |
| 22:17.25 | blast007 | yup |
| 22:17.26 | JeffM | not a fan of the first 3 being the same map |
| 22:17.31 | JeffM | but it's good enough to go with |
| 22:18.01 | JeffM | be nice to give the forums a similar theme |
| 22:18.23 | KTL | finally better screenshot |
| 22:18.24 | KTL | s |
| 22:18.35 | short_circuit | AAAH... now that was fun :D |
| 22:19.00 | short_circuit | even had some decent competion.. so much so everyone else left and it was mono e mono |
| 22:19.09 | short_circuit | eeyuwaah... mono |
| 22:19.31 | short_circuit | funny how everyone still cries 'cheating' at a lagger |
| 22:20.03 | JeffM | Part of me wants to remove the word "gaming" from the first slide |
| 22:20.03 | KTL | applauds about the progress and goes to bed! |
| 22:20.07 | short_circuit | sadly that guy left after beig all po |
| 22:20.09 | short_circuit | d |
| 22:21.09 | blast007 | JeffM: yeah, that slide is a bit wordy |
| 22:21.20 | JeffM | remove gaming and throw a ! at the end |
| 22:21.27 | JeffM | that should make it cleaner |
| 22:23.38 | short_circuit | omfg! it looks like that face goin round facebook... THAT FACE!!!! |
| 22:40.59 | CIA-104 | bzflag_main_website: 03Scott Wichser <blast007@users.sourceforge.net> * 49a530e04c3e r33 10/application/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:40.59 | CIA-104 | bzflag_main_website: Rename 'download' to 'downloads', and 'support' to 'help'. |
| 22:40.59 | CIA-104 | bzflag_main_website: Set proper page titles. |
| 22:41.00 | CIA-104 | bzflag_main_website: 03Scott Wichser <blast007@users.sourceforge.net> * 2193f9570a93 r36 10/application/views/media.tpl.php: |
| 22:41.00 | CIA-104 | bzflag_main_website: Remove the 2.4.0 video until we have some with actual gameplay. |
| 22:41.00 | CIA-104 | bzflag_main_website: Rename the 2.99.x heading to say 'Development'. |
| 22:41.01 | CIA-104 | bzflag_main_website: 03Scott Wichser <blast007@users.sourceforge.net> * 5c2254f1b40d r38 10/application/views/header.tpl.php: Less wordy tagline. |
| 22:41.02 | CIA-104 | bzflag_main_website: 03Scott Wichser <blast007@users.sourceforge.net> * e79719d5a595 r37 10/htdocs/resources/ (11 files in 2 dirs): Replace most of the slider graphics with JPEGs. |
| 22:41.04 | CIA-104 | bzflag_main_website: 03Scott Wichser <blast007@users.sourceforge.net> * 29508146551b r31 10/application/views/download.tpl.php: Add note about BZFlag being LGPL, and link to the license. |
| 22:41.05 | CIA-104 | bzflag_main_website: 03Scott Wichser <blast007@users.sourceforge.net> * cfa9472e93d6 r34 10/application/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Write out the page heading in the header template. |
| 22:41.06 | CIA-104 | bzflag_main_website: 03Scott Wichser <blast007@users.sourceforge.net> * 1354f2476ed5 r32 10/application/views/header.tpl.php: Tweak a tagline. |
| 22:41.07 | CIA-104 | bzflag_main_website: 03Scott Wichser <blast007@users.sourceforge.net> * 614d709795db r35 10/application/views/credits.tpl.php: Cover our butts. |
| 22:42.15 | blast007 | that better? |
| 22:44.22 | Delusional | joins in the applause |
| 22:57.46 | blast007 | pondering just replacing the master-bans.txt file with a blank file |
| 22:57.59 | blast007 | I guess for now I'll just leave it how it is though. |
| 23:00.54 | JeffM | Ship it! |
| 23:01.46 | short_circuit | o_O |
| 23:01.47 | blast007 | hmm, and we don't care about 1.7 anymore, right? ;) |
| 23:01.53 | JeffM | nope |
| 23:02.06 | short_circuit | OEZ NOEZ! |
| 23:02.09 | short_circuit | j/k |
| 23:02.09 | blast007 | then I won't bother including list-server.txt |
| 23:02.20 | JeffM | I don't think I could even build 1.7 |
| 23:02.31 | short_circuit | aaah... 1.7... we will miss you |
| 23:02.41 | JeffM | that would need VC6 |
| 23:02.42 | blast007 | I'd have go to find my MSVC6 install CDs |
| 23:02.49 | JeffM | and XP |
| 23:02.57 | JeffM | VC + win7 = not happy |
| 23:02.58 | blast007 | well, XP I have plenty of ;) |
| 23:03.37 | short_circuit | :) |
| 23:03.46 | JeffM | I think at the most we should care a little about the last release |
| 23:03.47 | CIA-104 | bzflag_main_website: 03Scott Wichser <blast007@users.sourceforge.net> * 0972a60c6c1b r39 10/htdocs/favicon.ico: Add the favicon. |
| 23:03.48 | JeffM | and tha'ts it |
| 23:05.20 | JeffM | built a new tank based on the icon :) http://www.opencombat.net/wiki/uploads/Images/ico_tank_2_blue-less_shadow.png |
| 23:06.24 | blast007 | hehe |
| 23:06.38 | JeffM | now if I could get it to stop spinning around the map for no reason |
| 23:06.51 | blast007 | make the barrel a bit longer and it could be a USB flash drive |
| 23:11.39 | JeffM | http://www.opencombat.net/wiki/uploads/Images/spinnytank.png |
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| 23:17.41 | blast007 | new site is live |
| 23:18.05 | JeffM | that it is |
| 23:18.14 | JeffM | does it have any better stats tracking then the last one? |
| 23:18.33 | blast007 | haven't hooked that up yet |
| 23:18.52 | short_circuit | ooOoo kewl tank |
| 23:18.53 | blast007 | but thanks for reminding me about that |
| 23:19.59 | short_circuit | I'll take a 128 gig flash tank thank you woot. |
| 23:20.24 | short_circuit | SOLAR FLARE! |
| 23:20.37 | JeffM | how drunk are you short_circuit ? |
| 23:20.44 | short_circuit | Oh. sry... OT |
| 23:20.52 | short_circuit | Uhm... not yet jeffM |
| 23:21.00 | JeffM | then.. damn |
| 23:21.20 | short_circuit | Im speechless |
| 23:22.38 | blast007 | hehe |
| 23:22.55 | short_circuit | O_0 XD |
| 23:23.40 | short_circuit | god I can't wait to get my quad core rig back on the road ;) |
| 23:26.21 | short_circuit | I so totally hate the fact that this project is dying :( I got on the busiest server and took on the best player and he only beat me by a small margin :( |
| 23:26.49 | JeffM | everything has it's time |
| 23:26.50 | short_circuit | Once upon a time I could get totally slaughtered jumping on a hot server |
| 23:26.55 | JeffM | we'll make something beter |
| 23:27.06 | short_circuit | really? |
| 23:27.26 | JeffM | that's what I'd like to do |
| 23:27.53 | short_circuit | That's what I'd love to see happen |
| 23:28.38 | short_circuit | a 'simple' game play online game that's busy |
| 23:29.30 | JeffM | I have been writing up design documents and I'm now trying to make a test app |
| 23:30.24 | short_circuit | woah... really? what's the premise to the game play? |
| 23:30.35 | JeffM | shoot players in vehicles |
| 23:30.40 | short_circuit | IB it's an early april fools joke |
| 23:30.52 | JeffM | what do you think that screenshot is from |
| 23:31.10 | JeffM | and all the info on this wikie |
| 23:31.11 | JeffM | http://www.opencombat.net/wiki/wikka.php?wakka=Main |
| 23:31.49 | JeffM | raycasting for shadows is a bit much for a april fools joke, http://www.opencombat.net/wiki/uploads/Images/SS_trough.png |
| 23:32.54 | short_circuit | so...uhm... this sounds kewl.... but.....yeah...... I don't wanna get my hopes up. 4 reelz yo? |
| 23:33.16 | JeffM | it may fail, but it is not a joke |
| 23:33.25 | JeffM | I have been working on this for a long time |
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| 23:33.59 | short_circuit | screenshot looks BA |
| 23:34.09 | JeffM | actualy I think they are kinda sad |
| 23:34.21 | JeffM | this is just the graphics for the test app |
| 23:34.31 | JeffM | I don't expect to use voxels for the final product |
| 23:34.41 | JeffM | portals maybe, but not voxels |
| 23:35.03 | short_circuit | ok... uhm... compared to gaming nowadays... but... it look kewl for what I'd be interested in |
| 23:35.24 | short_circuit | s/look/looks |
| 23:36.43 | short_circuit | I just made myself look totally dated didnt I.... Hello history channel 80's and 90's specials! |
| 23:37.41 | short_circuit | back to Vegeta getting pwned by Ginyu force |
| 23:37.49 | JeffM | I want it to be very configurable, so that you can make a room on the servers that plays like bzflag |
| 23:37.55 | JeffM | but others can make rooms that have different gameplay |
| 23:38.00 | JeffM | with health and stuff |
| 23:38.07 | blast007 | and hats |
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| 23:38.21 | short_circuit | woah... wait |
| 23:38.24 | JeffM | hats pay the bills |
| 23:38.46 | short_circuit | servers link to other servers with different game play? |
| 23:38.52 | JeffM | no |
| 23:38.56 | short_circuit | :( |
| 23:38.58 | short_circuit | ok |
| 23:39.01 | JeffM | well sorta |
| 23:39.10 | JeffM | it's designed more like IRC |
| 23:39.11 | blast007 | short_circuit: a "server" would run many game instances |
| 23:39.26 | JeffM | there is a inetwork facing hub that controlls a bunch of individual game isntances |
| 23:39.26 | JeffM | yeah |
| 23:39.34 | JeffM | they get turned on and off as needed |
| 23:39.36 | JeffM | for scaling |
| 23:39.44 | short_circuit | ooOOOoo |
| 23:39.49 | short_circuit | Ok |
| 23:39.54 | short_circuit | still interesting |
| 23:39.57 | JeffM | so as the project grows we can add more backend nodes around the world to host the actual games |
| 23:40.04 | blast007 | so there wouldn't be 300 servers sitting around empty |
| 23:40.13 | JeffM | there we be 3 :) |
| 23:40.27 | blast007 | sorry, 300 *game instances* ;) |
| 23:40.28 | JeffM | and if you want to play on a specific map, or with specific rules, you just request a new game room |
| 23:40.28 | short_circuit | Very intesting |
| 23:40.39 | JeffM | just like you request a room in IRC |
| 23:40.52 | JeffM | then the master server goes and spawns an instance for you and transfers you |
| 23:40.57 | short_circuit | this sounds more like a R.W. Game Hall |
| 23:41.13 | JeffM | it's just a different way of thinking about the game |
| 23:41.22 | JeffM | I want the project to run the major servers |
| 23:41.29 | short_circuit | Indeed |
| 23:41.39 | JeffM | and have a management team |
| 23:41.54 | JeffM | there will be 3 "servers" that people see |
| 23:41.59 | JeffM | one for new players |
| 23:42.08 | JeffM | that one runs the tutorials and games with just noobs |
| 23:42.21 | JeffM | once they play there for a bit, they can join the normal server |
| 23:42.37 | JeffM | and then there will be a members only server for project supporters/subscribers |
| 23:42.48 | JeffM | the people that pay the billz |
| 23:42.56 | short_circuit | How closely does game play follow current game play? |
| 23:43.00 | JeffM | and leagues |
| 23:43.18 | JeffM | if I do it right, with scripting then it should be able to work very similar to current gameplay |
| 23:43.29 | short_circuit | wow |
| 23:43.30 | JeffM | give tanks 1HP and make shots that rico |
| 23:43.36 | JeffM | and make a map with no ramps |
| 23:43.52 | short_circuit | sounds interesting |
| 23:44.12 | short_circuit | actually more than interesting |
| 23:44.17 | JeffM | it'll feed a little different of course, the input may be different and it'll have authorative server |
| 23:44.18 | blast007 | could have physics definitions that define how steep of a grade a tank can climb and just set it to 0 |
| 23:44.21 | JeffM | so deaths will be different |
| 23:44.26 | JeffM | blast007, sure |
| 23:44.32 | short_circuit | so... uhm... keys will be in who's hands on this one? |
| 23:44.56 | JeffM | so far all this work is mine |
| 23:45.05 | JeffM | if it works out I'll form an LLC to support it |
| 23:45.09 | short_circuit | I'm really liking this so ar |
| 23:45.20 | short_circuit | s/ar/far |
| 23:45.21 | JeffM | someone has to get the money from paypal |
| 23:45.42 | JeffM | then that LLC will offer money for code bounties |
| 23:45.48 | JeffM | to drive development forward |
| 23:46.02 | short_circuit | ooOooo... I'm in.... in less than 1 week |
| 23:46.05 | short_circuit | well |
| 23:46.09 | short_circuit | I |
| 23:46.22 | short_circuit | ll contribute... if that's already open |
| 23:46.32 | JeffM | if what is open? |
| 23:47.01 | short_circuit | contributing for code bounties using paypal |
| 23:47.17 | JeffM | that would be after launch |
| 23:47.27 | JeffM | I'm not talking about taking donations |
| 23:47.28 | short_circuit | and launch... is......... |
| 23:47.37 | JeffM | the project is designed to have a funding source |
| 23:47.37 | short_circuit | oh. ok |
| 23:47.38 | JeffM | the players |
| 23:47.45 | JeffM | we will offer a subscription |
| 23:47.47 | short_circuit | OH! |
| 23:47.52 | JeffM | 3-5$ a month |
| 23:47.53 | short_circuit | wow |
| 23:47.59 | JeffM | and you get access to the members only server |
| 23:48.08 | short_circuit | will this be multi platform? |
| 23:48.10 | JeffM | and probalby sell things like additional callsign slots |
| 23:48.13 | JeffM | yep |
| 23:48.21 | JeffM | with one bin for all OSs |
| 23:48.25 | short_circuit | ooook... |
| 23:48.25 | JeffM | self patching too :) |
| 23:48.28 | JeffM | no releases |
| 23:48.32 | short_circuit | shuweeet |
| 23:48.44 | JeffM | it checks for updates on each launch |
| 23:49.04 | short_circuit | so.... any 'launch' date set? |
| 23:49.10 | JeffM | we will also charge league owners |
| 23:49.18 | JeffM | like 25$ a year |
| 23:49.29 | JeffM | but we'll also host the site for them and provide proper integration |
| 23:49.35 | blast007 | short_circuit: it isn't even close to launching yet |
| 23:49.36 | JeffM | when it's ready |
| 23:49.44 | JeffM | yeah it's just some test code now |
| 23:49.54 | short_circuit | this sounds like bzflag 3.0.x..... sry..... |
| 23:49.55 | JeffM | I want to make at test app that does all the parts |
| 23:50.04 | JeffM | no, bzflag is a different game |
| 23:50.09 | short_circuit | true |
| 23:50.13 | short_circuit | but |
| 23:50.15 | JeffM | and is purely comunity driven in how games are presented |
| 23:50.23 | JeffM | I would not try to force bzflag into my method |
| 23:50.31 | JeffM | too many people would get mad |
| 23:50.45 | short_circuit | lol... to many = to few nowadays |
| 23:50.45 | JeffM | I will still allow community servers if people want to host them |
| 23:50.52 | JeffM | they will just be in a different list |
| 23:51.11 | short_circuit | still interesting though |
| 23:51.12 | JeffM | I am just hoping that there won't be as great of a need |
| 23:51.49 | JeffM | map makers will just be able to submit a map to the project and we'll add it to the list of maps available on specific instances |
| 23:52.04 | JeffM | so you can just fire up a game with the map you want and we'll host it for you |
| 23:52.05 | CIA-104 | bzflag_main_website: 03Scott Wichser <blast007@users.sourceforge.net> * ef1117b365d4 r40 10/application/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Add support for Google Analytics. |
| 23:52.26 | JeffM | that kinda system makes leagues easy too, we just fire off instances for each match as needed. |
| 23:52.37 | JeffM | and those instances know who's playing who and only allows them to play |
| 23:52.51 | short_circuit | now that I'nitinerant I'm a bit more available to online game plaY |
| 23:52.56 | short_circuit | UGH! |
| 23:53.10 | short_circuit | itinerant |
| 23:53.16 | short_circuit | yep... |
| 23:53.19 | short_circuit | can't spell |
| 23:53.59 | short_circuit | Meh.. would love to get |
| 23:54.08 | JeffM | I'm hoping that there can be a stable managment team as well, offering free membership time to people who want to help admin the players |
| 23:54.09 | short_circuit | War Towers back online |
| 23:54.37 | JeffM | probalby have to call them CSRs tho |
| 23:54.46 | short_circuit | LOL |
| 23:54.54 | JeffM | it's what they would be |
| 23:55.04 | JeffM | since the playes would be customers of the project |
| 23:55.10 | JeffM | that just happens to be open source too |
| 23:55.26 | short_circuit | some grocery stores call the lower5 managers that keep the registers inline are called CSRs |
| 23:55.27 | JeffM | I just think that if there is a funding stream it helps prevent stagnation |
| 23:55.48 | short_circuit | ugh |
| 23:56.01 | short_circuit | anywho |
| 23:56.03 | short_circuit | yeah |
| 23:56.15 | short_circuit | This project sounds exciting |
| 23:56.33 | short_circuit | Sry... typing on mini keyboard and typo |
| 23:56.44 | short_circuit | s.. ugh... are killing me |
| 23:57.32 | short_circuit | and to think.. I'm considering buying one of those usb thumb type wireless keyboards |
