| 00:00.41 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: is the GLEW bug in the build system fixed yet? |
| 00:01.51 | JeffM | he cheezed out and copied the file into bzflag so I think it works now |
| 00:01.58 | blast007 | oh that's right |
| 00:02.16 | blast007 | jogged my memory. and also, it doesn't copy now, it references the file directly |
| 00:02.26 | JeffM | good |
| 00:02.39 | blast007 | (and he also did the same for ServerLink.cxx for bzadmin) |
| 00:05.33 | McSpider | I'll post a patch to sf with the fixes above. |
| 00:06.28 | blast007 | ok |
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| 00:32.26 | blast007 | can someone shed some light onto getOldConfigFilename in src/bzflag/clientConfig.cxx where it says "// add in hostname on UNIX" ? what operating systems would do that, or is that old irrelevant cruft? |
| 00:36.49 | blast007 | not sure what systems/situations where getenv("HOST") would return something. it doesn't on my Ubuntu system. |
| 00:45.40 | blast007 | I don't really have a good selection of systems to try it on either.. |
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| 00:48.47 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r22030 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/clientConfig.cxx: Properly locate the old 2.0.x configuration file on non-Windows platforms so it can be upgraded. |
| 00:48.59 | blast007 | guess it doesn't really matter since that looks like it should work okay |
| 00:49.25 | blast007 | So. Is there any outstanding issues besides the rabbit stuff? |
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| 00:55.38 | McSpider | getenv("HOST") returns null on macos. |
| 00:58.22 | blast007 | it did the same on FreeBSD |
| 00:58.34 | blast007 | maybe it's an IRIX thing ;) |
| 00:58.43 | blast007 | or other forms of real UNIX |
| 00:58.49 | McSpider | maybe |
| 01:01.26 | Erroneous | that works outside of a shell? |
| 01:01.35 | Erroneous | I always thought it was a csh thing |
| 01:02.07 | blast007 | shrugs |
| 01:02.24 | blast007 | I was trying it inside a shell via echo $HOST was getting nothing |
| 01:02.32 | McSpider | getenv("USER") works in C++ |
| 01:02.35 | blast007 | though I'm using dash or bash |
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| 01:06.40 | Erroneous | yeah; on debian, echo $HOST returns the hostname from csh, but not from bash |
| 01:08.01 | bryjen | if it worked, it'd be useful on machines with shared /home but different video capabilities |
| 01:08.04 | blast007 | so if you run BZFlag from csh, will it append the hostname to the configuration file? |
| 01:08.10 | Erroneous | no clue |
| 01:08.35 | Erroneous | but that's pretty quirky behavior to depend on :) |
| 01:09.26 | Erroneous | coincidentally, echo $HOSTNAME returns the hostname from bash, but NOT from csh ;) |
| 01:09.34 | blast007 | heh |
| 01:09.35 | bryjen | heh |
| 01:10.01 | bryjen | is there a C library routine for this instead? |
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| 01:11.31 | bryjen | gethostname. well, that's obvious enough ;) |
| 01:11.33 | Erroneous | ANSI uname() and POSIX gethostname(), it looks like |
| 01:13.12 | blast007 | Address::getHostName() is what was used previously for the email string generation (which makes a call to gethostname()) |
| 01:14.13 | bryjen | i wonder the env var hackery predates that or not |
| 01:17.58 | blast007 | echo $HOST on csh on Ubuntu doesn't work for me, though I might just be doing it wrong.. I'm not using csh as a login shell, I'm just running it myself manually from bash |
| 01:19.10 | blast007 | tcsh does work with that though, it seems |
| 01:20.16 | bryjen | works here. however, in bash HOSTNAME gives fully-qualified, and HOST in csh gives plain host name without domain name |
| 01:20.17 | blast007 | and it DOES get that value when you run BZFlag from a shell that has HOST defined. |
| 01:20.59 | blast007 | has a ~/.bzf/2.4/config.cfg.devbuntuvm now |
| 01:23.23 | bryjen | ick. changes the filename extension. i guess *nix is a bit less reliant on that tho. |
| 01:45.36 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * r22031 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ (bzflag/playing.cxx bzfs/bzfs.cxx): patch 3345175 |
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| 03:50.14 | Thumper_ | More bugs: the logDetail plugin isn't logging chat anymore - only join events. I'm out most of the day tomorrow and all weekend so I wont' have time to look at this |
| 03:50.21 | Thumper_ | it worked earlier |
| 03:51.01 | JeffM | meh we can ship with out that, just make sure it's in the list |
| 03:51.26 | Thumper_ | but if it's missing plugin events (assuming it's that) it won't be just this plugin |
| 03:51.43 | JeffM | I did not remove any chat evens |
| 03:51.45 | JeffM | events |
| 03:51.53 | Thumper_ | no - but this was working a few days ago |
| 03:52.20 | JeffM | nobody should be checking in changes that big |
| 03:53.09 | JeffM | what rev did it work on ( guess) |
| 03:53.50 | Thumper_ | checking... |
| 04:00.58 | Thumper_ | JeffM: looks like I was wrong - it's not been logging player chat at all, I'll look at it tomorrow and it can be fixed after the release if it's just this plugin that is borked |
| 04:01.18 | JeffM | that plugin was hella wierd, I probably screwed up in the upgrade of it |
| 04:01.21 | Thumper_ | the server chat messages are there, just no player stuff (which is what I was trying to find for details of this rabbit bug) |
| 04:01.35 | Thumper_ | I'll try to look at it tomrorow |
| 04:01.44 | Thumper_ | after my 8AM dentist appt :-P |
| 04:01.57 | JeffM | take a laptop do it during ;) |
| 04:02.03 | Thumper_ | I'm away this weekend - will be back on Monday |
| 04:02.19 | JeffM | has monday off |
| 04:02.29 | Thumper_ | has Friday off |
| 04:04.44 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r22032 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/logDetail/logDetail.cpp: plug-in wanted raw chat events but registered for filtered events. |
| 04:04.45 | JeffM | that may help |
| 04:05.07 | Thumper_ | hmm ok |
| 04:05.41 | JeffM | the event handler had a switch looking for raw chat, but it registered for filtered, so it would have gotten filtered and ignored them |
| 04:05.56 | JeffM | logs want raw away so you can know who has a pottymouth |
| 04:07.45 | Thumper_ | it has both (or used to) so it could flag when the filter is triggered |
| 04:07.59 | Thumper_ | I'll test it |
| 04:08.33 | JeffM | it has an event for when a message is filtered |
| 04:08.47 | JeffM | it dosn't need both to compare them or anything |
| 04:08.58 | JeffM | so it should work as it used to now |
| 04:09.25 | Thumper_ | now it gets double logs for broadcasts |
| 04:09.39 | JeffM | well we are on the right track then |
| 04:09.42 | Thumper_ | I can look at it tomorrow |
| 04:09.51 | JeffM | go to sleep |
| 04:10.02 | Thumper_ | yup. gotta be up in 6 hours for the dentist. oh joy |
| 04:10.14 | Thumper_ | thx jeff |
| 04:10.34 | JeffM | yeah it checks for server messages specificly |
| 04:10.36 | JeffM | good luck |
| 04:11.45 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r22033 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/logDetail/logDetail.cpp: ignore server messages in the chat event, they will be handled by the server message event. |
| 04:11.52 | JeffM | kerfixed |
| 04:11.54 | JeffM | maybe |
| 04:12.21 | Thumper_ | nope :) |
| 04:12.39 | JeffM | hmmm then that may be a bzfs bug |
| 04:12.42 | Thumper_ | goes to sleep |
| 04:12.43 | JeffM | I will look while you slumber |
| 04:16.16 | JeffM | hmm that should have worked |
| 04:17.57 | JeffM | hmm what kind of thing in bzfs would send out a server message? |
| 04:18.08 | JeffM | lagwarn? |
| 04:20.19 | JeffM | hmm actualy I can't see how he would be getting double messages in the first place |
| 04:20.22 | JeffM | oh wells |
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| 05:43.45 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r22034 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/clientConfig.cxx: The lastScreenshot BZDB variable is no longer used, so don't save it in the client config file. |
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| 06:33.33 | Ebert | hey guys, can you tell me how to get a kid signed into COPPA |
| 06:33.51 | Ebert | you could tell me faster than i can figure it out (if anyones around) since the mom is around |
| 06:45.25 | Flash | IIRC, you need a paper form signed |
| 06:45.39 | Ebert | oh, i was afraid of that |
| 06:46.07 | Ebert | hm, it disturbs me how kids are left unsupervised on the internet |
| 06:46.14 | Ebert | and how fast they can type |
| 06:47.13 | Flash | Try starting here: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/ucp.php?mode=register |
| 06:47.41 | Ebert | im already past that with them |
| 06:48.28 | Flash | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/faq.php?sid=d81cf0579e96f691848f1edb7e422c42#f0r7 |
| 06:49.29 | Flash | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/faq.php?sid=d81cf0579e96f691848f1edb7e422c42#f0r0 |
| 06:50.56 | Flash | That's all I can find. Looks like you should have gotten an e-mail with instructions? |
| 06:52.05 | Ebert | yea ive done what i could, he keeps bugging sig |
| 06:52.31 | Ebert | problem is he already registered a name (hitting the over 1998 button) and wanted to keep it |
| 06:53.22 | Ebert | hitting age before 1998 ugh im tired |
| 06:54.00 | Flash | yup. lot's of kids figure "just lie about your age". It's the "what can I get away with" culture |
| 06:54.23 | Ebert | these 10 year olds can do anything, its typing class instead of cursive class |
| 06:55.24 | Ebert | my kid will learn on a typewriter to type ^^ |
| 06:55.44 | Ebert | or a really restricted computer |
| 07:13.20 | Ebert | thx flash |
| 07:13.23 | Flash | what's a typwriter? |
| 07:13.44 | Ebert | the thing with cobwebs on it in the thrift store |
| 07:23.24 | Ebert | the boy's mom says there is no address on the form |
| 07:29.56 | Flash | I know that JeffM knows about it. Guess you'll have to wait for morning |
| 07:30.15 | Constitution | Ebert: you can have her send TimRiker an email |
| 07:30.34 | Constitution | with the youngster's callsign, giving permission |
| 07:30.37 | Ebert | email to get contact info? |
| 07:31.29 | Constitution | no, just have her email him giving us permission to store information on behalf of the minor (full name and callsign is all that's required, I believe) |
| 07:31.33 | Ebert | i guess that will put him on the COPPA list right |
| 07:31.41 | Constitution | yes |
| 07:32.12 | Constitution | in other news, need Snow Leopard, Leopard, and Tiger testers: http://beta.bzflag.bz/builds/2.3.x/MacOSX/BZFlag-2.3.17-RC1.zip |
| 07:32.33 | Ebert | tim@rikers.org correct? |
| 07:33.23 | Flash | I don't speak animals... what versions? (I'm at least 1 behind) |
| 07:35.55 | Ebert | i do |
| 07:36.08 | Ebert | wish you'd told me this earlier const, put them through loops :p |
| 07:36.35 | Ebert | easy enough tho |
| 07:36.42 | Flash | ~bzfrag Ebert |
| 07:36.42 | ibot | ACTION kills Ebert with a shot from his BZTank |
| 07:36.51 | Ebert | !lart flash |
| 07:36.52 | Flash | Could you translate please? |
| 07:41.59 | Ebert | hm looks great Const |
| 07:42.09 | Ebert | lotsa servers listed already |
| 07:56.28 | Constitution | Flash: Snow Leopard is 10.6, Leopard is 10.5, Tiger is 10.4 |
| 07:56.50 | Flash | ok, I'm 10.5 |
| 07:57.16 | Flash | do I need that specific distro, or can I just use my trunk build? |
| 07:59.49 | Constitution | specifically, I was wondering if that build I made (on 10.6) will run on older versions |
| 08:00.06 | Constitution | people can always compile their own, but I need people to test that specific build |
| 08:04.39 | Flash | I'm disappointed you didn't make a .dmg |
| 08:06.47 | Constitution | first let's determine if it runs :) |
| 08:11.51 | Flash | it runs |
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| 08:16.10 | Constitution | cool |
| 08:16.28 | Flash | meet me and I'll be your target before bed |
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| 08:17.30 | Constitution | ok what server? |
| 08:18.40 | Flash | you pick |
| 08:20.04 | Flash | but hurry up |
| 08:20.35 | Constitution | the hix brl one... I'm on |
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| 08:22.18 | Flash | can't spawn or talk |
| 08:22.21 | Flash | poor choice |
| 08:22.51 | Constitution | not in the GU league? pfft |
| 08:22.55 | Constitution | come to the other hix map... I'm on |
| 09:53.14 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03Pimpinella 07http://my.bzflag.org * r7787 10/w/BZFS_2.4_Upgrade: /* Starting your BZFlag server using your server key */ |
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| 14:24.55 | Thumper_ | the server is sending two separate eRawChatMessageEvents for broadcasts http://pastebin.com/yBR5xh5Y |
| 14:25.41 | Thumper_ | this is just a local server with logDetail loaded and a bzadmin client connecting and saying 'hi' |
| 14:26.35 | Thumper_ | so we're triggering the event in both handleCommand and sendChatMessage |
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| 14:36.00 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r22035 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: |
| 14:36.01 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: Remove duplicate eRawChatMessage event |
| 14:36.01 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: This is triggered later in sendPlayerMessage |
| 14:36.09 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r22036 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/logDetail/logDetail.cpp: Whitespace |
| 14:36.18 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r22037 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/logDetail/logDetail.cpp: |
| 14:36.18 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: Revert r22033 |
| 14:36.18 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: This doesn't work for removing duplicate chat messages. This code |
| 14:36.18 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: never gets triggered. |
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| 15:52.14 | JeffM | Constitution, you need an account on the new server? |
| 16:09.12 | JeffM | he's probably off catching bad guys |
| 16:09.29 | JeffM | blast007, if I miss him, we want to set him up an account on awesomelaser |
| 16:09.41 | JeffM | so he can upload to the builds |
| 16:13.31 | JeffM | I put up his build and cleaned up the name, http://beta.bzflag.org/bzflag-2.3.17-20110629_x86.app.zip |
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| 16:21.38 | JeffM | TimRiker, you get a chance to take a look at the debian package stuff for 2.4? |
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| 16:39.55 | JeffM | and how do we feel about a release today? |
| 16:40.15 | kierra | feels fine |
| 16:40.17 | mdskpr_ | good |
| 16:40.27 | mdskpr_ | RC3? or final |
| 16:40.30 | JeffM | makes a note of kierra's feelings |
| 16:40.33 | JeffM | I'd like final |
| 16:40.40 | JeffM | do we have anything major outstanding? |
| 16:42.53 | JeffM | I'd like to get BulletCatcher's input before |
| 17:04.31 | blast007 | JeffM: Tim had done some changes on the debian stuff |
| 17:04.48 | JeffM | ok, just curious if those were all the changes needed |
| 17:09.24 | BulletCatcher | The BZBB thread suggests that we still have a regression in rabbit chase. |
| 17:09.47 | JeffM | we have not published a version with the last set of fixes to it |
| 17:10.04 | JeffM | do you want to do an RC3 to be sure? |
| 17:10.21 | JeffM | cus the last set of testing I heard was that it had the same problems as 2.0 |
| 17:11.05 | JeffM | there were some cases that missed the team change and we got a patch to fix those |
| 17:11.33 | BulletCatcher | If we can get reliable confirmation that it is fixed as of r22037 then I am ok for release, but maybe we need to do RC2 to get broad enough testing. |
| 17:11.49 | JeffM | lets do an RC2 now |
| 17:11.51 | JeffM | can't hurt |
| 17:12.09 | JeffM | want to do the bumping honors? |
| 17:12.09 | BulletCatcher | k |
| 17:12.12 | BulletCatcher | sure |
| 17:12.33 | JeffM | I won't cry too much if we have to release this weekend |
| 17:12.40 | BulletCatcher | reviews r22025 |
| 17:12.41 | blast007 | I'll throw up a couple more servers |
| 17:13.06 | blast007 | also, we should note that RC2 will upgrade the 2.0.x configuration file - so people should test that out as well by deleting their 2.4 configuration |
| 17:13.11 | JeffM | tho if we do this weekend I have a name in mind that would be totaly inapropriate :) |
| 17:13.49 | BulletCatcher | Are we ready to clear the top of the BUGS file? |
| 17:14.45 | JeffM | did we decide that the bracket thing is not a bug? |
| 17:15.22 | JeffM | cus we can remove the radar zoom "bug" cus we removed that feature |
| 17:15.29 | BulletCatcher | I'm not sure either way, and I don't have a second computer to test with at the moment. |
| 17:15.37 | JeffM | then just add a new feature to the roadmap |
| 17:15.48 | BulletCatcher | The radar bug is definitely "solved" for now. |
| 17:15.53 | JeffM | yeah |
| 17:16.18 | JeffM | so pull that, remove the section for "must be fixed" and leave the bracket one I think |
| 17:17.17 | JeffM | have you tried Constitution's mac build? |
| 17:17.45 | BulletCatcher | No. I left my Mac at the office yesterday. |
| 17:17.47 | BulletCatcher | I'll bring it home tonight. |
| 17:17.51 | JeffM | k |
| 17:18.03 | JeffM | he did the last release so I expect his to work |
| 17:18.17 | blast007 | is that build intel only? |
| 17:18.22 | JeffM | yeah |
| 17:18.27 | blast007 | k, then nvm ;) |
| 17:18.30 | JeffM | and that's fine for an inital package |
| 17:18.34 | blast007 | has a PPC eMac here |
| 17:18.43 | blast007 | though it might be 10.3 :P |
| 17:18.44 | JeffM | I did look to see how much an intel mac mini was on ebay |
| 17:18.56 | JeffM | I have access to 10.4 PPCs |
| 17:19.03 | JeffM | but not intel |
| 17:19.44 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r22038 10/trunk/bzflag/BUGS: The troublesome new radar zoom feature has been removed from 2.3. |
| 17:21.18 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r22039 10/trunk/bzflag/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Welcome to 2.3.18, release candidate 2 for 2.4. |
| 17:21.33 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 07http://my.bzflag.org * r7788 10/w/Development_RoadMap: graphic tank at high radar zoom |
| 17:39.17 | JeffM | winderz is up |
| 17:39.24 | JeffM | and I made a post |
| 17:39.42 | JeffM | can a bzbb admin please unsticky the 2.0.16 post? |
| 17:40.05 | Thumper_ | the rabbit mode stuff hasn't been fixed yet has it? |
| 17:40.19 | Thumper_ | (pausing as a the rabbit doesn't change to some other hunter) |
| 17:40.42 | JeffM | we had some changes for it and the person that did those changes said that it behaved the same way as 2.0.x |
| 17:40.48 | JeffM | so that's what this RC is to test |
| 17:41.00 | JeffM | so some testing on that was done |
| 17:41.01 | Thumper_ | ok |
| 17:41.21 | JeffM | McSpider did the changes and ran tets after it |
| 17:41.25 | blast007 | JeffM: done :) |
| 17:41.49 | joevano | JeffM: done... twice it would seem |
| 17:41.54 | blast007 | lol |
| 17:42.01 | Pimpinella | JeffM: i did some testing on that bracket thing and i really believe it's not a bug |
| 17:42.03 | McSpider | I'm running another test right now |
| 17:42.14 | Pimpinella | not sure if it's a feature, but no bug ;) |
| 17:42.35 | JeffM | ok |
| 17:43.11 | JeffM | and who said that bzflag developers could not be motivated :) |
| 17:44.21 | joevano | If it's not a bug it must be a feature (and even if it is a bug, we can spin it)! -- Microsoft |
| 17:44.43 | BulletCatcher | We have made 640 commits for 2.3 so far. |
| 17:44.56 | BulletCatcher | No, that's not right. |
| 17:44.57 | JeffM | not too bad |
| 17:45.17 | blast007 | 640 should be enough for anybody |
| 17:45.27 | BulletCatcher | :-) |
| 17:45.43 | BulletCatcher | (640 includes the 2.99 branch, too) |
| 17:45.49 | blast007 | yeah, figured :) |
| 17:46.14 | JeffM | ok then you all suck.. get back to work ;) |
| 17:46.34 | BulletCatcher | There we go. 523 commits on the 2.3 trunk. |
| 17:46.41 | JeffM | ok you suck less |
| 17:46.46 | blast007 | that's over 500! |
| 17:47.02 | JeffM | such a bad show |
| 17:47.06 | Pimpinella | even over 510! |
| 17:47.26 | blast007 | too bad it wasn't 9001 commits. then I could yell "it's over NINE THOUSAND!" |
| 17:47.37 | JeffM | then I would have to kick you |
| 17:47.43 | blast007 | hehehe |
| 17:47.43 | BulletCatcher | 523 commits in 7 weeks. |
| 17:47.48 | JeffM | 2005 called, they want there meme back |
| 17:48.11 | JeffM | now a bzflag tank on nyan cat.. that's class ;) |
| 17:48.19 | joevano | how long for the previous 523 commits? |
| 17:48.26 | JeffM | seven years |
| 17:48.31 | blast007 | hehe |
| 17:48.33 | joevano | lol |
| 17:49.27 | JeffM | hmm gotta make the first real server side player bot taunt real players with mimes, "come at me bro", "forever alone" |
| 17:49.30 | bryjen | http://xkcd.com/875 |
| 17:50.04 | JeffM | I loved that one |
| 17:50.20 | BulletCatcher | Sources are up now. |
| 17:50.22 | blast007 | JeffM: if it taunted you with mimes, it would either put you in an invisible box, or it would start throwing electronic mail at other tanks |
| 17:50.42 | JeffM | well no we make them shoot mimes |
| 17:50.48 | JeffM | and taunt mems |
| 17:51.58 | JeffM | making a robot tank that said all the stuff the adventure sphere says would be fun too |
| 17:52.02 | JeffM | or the space sphere |
| 17:52.55 | blast007 | I had talking -solo bots years ago ;) back in 1.7 iirc |
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| 18:10.16 | randomparticle | android's next release is entitled "Ice Cream Sandwich". do we have a fancy name for the next bzflag release? |
| 18:13.13 | blast007 | "I think we can put our differences behind us, for science....you monster" |
| 18:14.58 | Thumper_ | McSpider: There is a problem with rabbit mode in the latest release candidate |
| 18:15.19 | Thumper_ | if the rabbit kills himself and you wait until the exploding sequences completes before some other hunter spawns |
| 18:15.23 | Thumper_ | then the rabbit doesn't change |
| 18:15.34 | Thumper_ | (ie the old dead idle rabbit is still the rabbit) |
| 18:15.50 | Thumper_ | and rabbit selection seems to be after the exploding tank part sequence, not immediately when the rabbit dies |
| 18:16.01 | Thumper_ | so there's a small window where there is no rabbit right after the rabbit is killed |
| 18:16.26 | McSpider | yeah I noticed that, but in my testing 2.0.17 acts the same. |
| 18:16.41 | Thumper_ | hmmm okay, didn't try that |
| 18:17.05 | McSpider | I've been testing awhile now and 2.0.17 (r21334) acts the same as 2.3 (r22039) |
| 18:17.41 | McSpider | I'f the hunter respawns imediately while/after the rabbit dies there is a slight delay and then he will get rabbit. |
| 18:18.07 | McSpider | but if he waits~15 sec and then respawns the rabbit doesn't change till the rabbit spawns |
| 18:18.12 | Thumper_ | I'll try to verify the behaviour is the same today and get back to you |
| 18:18.18 | McSpider | ok |
| 18:18.19 | Thumper_ | if it is then it should be fine as is for 2.4 |
| 18:18.20 | JeffM | that's all I care about now, we can update the rabbit logic in a point release |
| 18:18.53 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 07http://my.bzflag.org * r7789 10/w/Development_RoadMap: bunnies |
| 18:19.09 | JeffM | randomparticle, the current front runner is "wake the dead" |
| 18:20.18 | randomparticle | like this jimmy hendrix thing |
| 18:20.34 | JeffM | could also do "freedom isn't free" |
| 18:21.27 | JeffM | or "A plan that came together" |
| 18:21.39 | randomparticle | i never really understood this "free as in beer" |
| 18:22.18 | JeffM | someone can give you free beer, but it's just a gift, you don't own the concept of beer |
| 18:22.22 | JeffM | you are just lucky |
| 18:22.42 | JeffM | free beer can be used as a marketing ploy |
| 18:22.47 | JeffM | cus hey... free beer |
| 18:23.01 | randomparticle | but it never is free is it? |
| 18:23.07 | JeffM | thats the point |
| 18:23.16 | JeffM | software that is free as in beer isn't realy "free" |
| 18:23.27 | randomparticle | so he could have said "free as in not free" |
| 18:23.39 | JeffM | but he didn't |
| 18:23.50 | randomparticle | he's quite a riddler old stallman |
| 18:24.10 | JeffM | he has his opinions |
| 18:25.09 | randomparticle | slightly related to which: is bzflag LGPL? |
| 18:25.14 | JeffM | yes |
| 18:25.19 | JeffM | do you never read any of our docs? |
| 18:25.26 | randomparticle | not really :) |
| 18:25.34 | JeffM | read, it's the new hotness |
| 18:25.39 | blast007 | or any of our source files.... |
| 18:25.50 | blast007 | it's kinda at the top of all of them |
| 18:25.58 | JeffM | I think it's even on the main webpage |
| 18:26.02 | randomparticle | i never read the tops. i just dive right into the middle |
| 18:26.14 | JeffM | that explains a lot |
| 18:26.21 | blast007 | or maybe it isn't.. just says to read COPYING |
| 18:26.59 | JeffM | it used to be GPL but Tim relicensed it |
| 18:27.02 | Thumper_ | McSpider: I get the same rabbit behaviour in 2.0.17 too |
| 18:27.04 | Thumper_ | thanks |
| 18:27.18 | McSpider | yep |
| 18:27.19 | JeffM | so you think we are good Thumper_ ? |
| 18:27.25 | Thumper_ | yes |
| 18:27.30 | JeffM | cool |
| 18:27.38 | randomparticle | "the file named COPYING that should have accompanied this file" |
| 18:27.41 | randomparticle | that's a bit non-commital |
| 18:27.58 | randomparticle | what if it didn't accompany the file? |
| 18:28.15 | JeffM | then the person you got the file from should provide it on request |
| 18:28.56 | JeffM | thats the LGPLs deal, it dosn't specify a distrobution method, just that you have to provide license and sources on request |
| 18:30.07 | JeffM | that's the part apple dosn't like |
| 18:31.42 | JeffM | tho at least they released the NDA on the iOS SDK |
| 18:32.34 | randomparticle | i just put not before everything |
| 18:33.06 | Thumper_ | "Twitching corpse" - we're not sure if it's because it is coming back to life (yet) or Gimli has his axe embedded in its nervous system |
| 18:33.28 | randomparticle | e.g., apple did not write to me confirming they knew about a bug a year ago |
| 18:33.39 | randomparticle | which bug remains unfixed to this day |
| 18:41.21 | randomparticle | what's a really good quality workstation type pc? |
| 18:41.39 | BulletCatcher | RC2 sources are at http://beta.bzflag.org/bzflag-2.3.18-20110630.tar.bz2 and http://beta.bzflag.org/bzflag-2.3.18-20110630.zip |
| 18:42.20 | randomparticle | i.e., what can you buy today that is virtually bulletproof |
| 18:45.05 | blast007 | a kevlar case |
| 18:45.21 | Pimpinella | depends on the type of bullet |
| 18:45.26 | blast007 | true |
| 18:47.08 | Pimpinella | our government solt it's bunker a few years ago - guess it's relativly bullet proof |
| 18:47.13 | Pimpinella | sold |
| 18:52.19 | mdskpr_ | BulletCatcher: dont you have to do an svn ci to commit the RC2 to trunk? |
| 18:53.44 | blast007 | he did: < CIA-5> BZFlag: bullet_catcher * r22039 /trunk/bzflag/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Welcome to 2.3.18, release candidate 2 for 2.4. |
| 18:54.05 | mdskpr_ | oh |
| 18:54.13 | mdskpr_ | runs to the optometris |
| 18:54.16 | blast007 | ;) |
| 18:54.23 | blast007 | it was up a ways |
| 19:01.34 | blast007 | oo, -noTeamKills isn't documented |
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| 19:18.45 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r22040 10/trunk/bzflag/ (man/bzfs.6.in src/bzfs/CmdLineOptions.cxx): Document the -noTeamKills option in the bzfs usage output. |
| 19:24.16 | mdskpr_ | oops, i thought i did that |
| 19:25.56 | blast007 | hmm, does SR still kill a teammate with -noTeamsKills enabled? |
| 19:27.28 | mdskpr_ | idk |
| 19:27.59 | mdskpr_ | meet me on hix |
| 19:28.34 | blast007 | I can't |
| 19:28.38 | blast007 | don't have a client here |
| 19:28.42 | mdskpr_ | ah |
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| 19:34.27 | mdskpr_ | blast007: eh it still kills them |
| 19:34.32 | blast007 | okay |
| 19:34.38 | mdskpr_ | that would also apply to burrow |
| 19:34.41 | blast007 | yeah |
| 19:34.48 | blast007 | we'll worry about that in 2.6 |
| 19:34.50 | blast007 | if at all |
| 19:35.13 | blast007 | I just wanted to make sure the description was right, and it seems so :) "shots go through teammates" |
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| 19:36.09 | blast007 | there we go, I have 4 servers up now :) |
| 19:36.19 | blast007 | I should throw up an OpenFFA too.. |
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| 19:36.53 | mdskpr_ | heh, what happens with offa+-noteamkills? |
| 19:37.43 | blast007 | hehehe |
| 19:37.51 | McSpider | blast also with -noTeamkills you can't shoot yourself |
| 19:38.01 | blast007 | McSpider: oh neat... |
| 19:38.14 | mdskpr_ | thats not good is it? |
| 19:38.22 | blast007 | no, that is not good |
| 19:38.46 | blast007 | laser + unlimited shots + spinning around + not dying from own laser = bad |
| 19:39.27 | blast007 | JeffM / BulletCatcher / Thumper_: Thoughts on that? |
| 19:41.04 | Thumper_ | blast007: yeah that's probably bad :) |
| 19:41.34 | Thumper_ | 25% of my deaths are shooting self ... so my score will greatly improve ;) |
| 19:42.52 | McSpider | It's easy to fix. |
| 19:44.25 | blast007 | yeah, I imagine so :) |
| 19:44.57 | blast007 | I'll play with that when I get home |
| 19:45.01 | blast007 | can't test a client here |
| 19:47.22 | blast007 | oh cool, segfault :) |
| 19:48.22 | blast007 | in the TimeLimit plugin. |
| 19:54.01 | JeffM | yeah we should probably make it so you can always kill yoursef |
| 19:54.31 | JeffM | I'm not against having a no suicide option, but I think it should be seperate |
| 19:55.52 | JeffM | can someone fix that? |
| 19:56.25 | McSpider | yep, I have a patch |
| 19:56.35 | McSpider | also do you want the SR bug fixed also? |
| 19:56.36 | JeffM | you sure you don't want commit? |
| 19:56.54 | JeffM | what is the issue with SR? |
| 19:57.05 | McSpider | I'm not very used to svn, I dont want to screw anything |
| 19:57.22 | McSpider | sr kills teammates with noteamKills |
| 19:57.28 | JeffM | ahh ok |
| 19:57.36 | JeffM | yeah throw those in a patch and I'll apply em |
| 19:57.40 | JeffM | bump the proto version too |
| 19:57.45 | JeffM | and the minor |
| 19:58.02 | JeffM | and you can't screw anything with svn, it has history |
| 19:59.21 | McSpider | so BZ_PROTO_VERSION & BZ_MINOR_VERSION |
| 19:59.27 | McSpider | or BZ_REV |
| 19:59.28 | JeffM | yes |
| 19:59.31 | JeffM | rev |
| 19:59.42 | JeffM | minor should be 3 untill we ship |
| 20:00.42 | blast007 | might as well pull the RC 2 then since it won't be compatible :) |
| 20:01.02 | blast007 | at least with my servers - they update within a few minutes of any commit |
| 20:01.14 | JeffM | we can do an RC 3 today :) |
| 20:01.49 | blast007 | the TimeLimit plugin is crashing when trying to free a regex |
| 20:01.56 | blast007 | line 64 is where it dies |
| 20:03.34 | JeffM | or we can apply the patch and bump after we find other issues |
| 20:03.46 | JeffM | cus it's client only, updates to servers wont' change anything |
| 20:06.50 | Constitution | JeffM: beta.bzflag.org is the new server where builds are posted? |
| 20:06.56 | JeffM | yes |
| 20:07.01 | JeffM | would you like an account there? |
| 20:07.06 | JeffM | we are moving off of .bz |
| 20:07.15 | Constitution | is the list going there too? |
| 20:07.20 | JeffM | yup |
| 20:07.26 | JeffM | after the release |
| 20:07.29 | Constitution | ok, then yes please |
| 20:07.36 | JeffM | all things for bz will move there |
| 20:07.40 | JeffM | get off the IRC pig |
| 20:07.53 | blast007 | http://static.bzexcess.com/tmp/timelimit.txt <-- crash |
| 20:09.54 | Thumper_ | You don't have permission to access /tmp/timelimit.txt on this server. |
| 20:10.06 | blast007 | JeffM: she's only using 365MB right now |
| 20:10.08 | blast007 | Thumper_: bleh |
| 20:10.12 | JeffM | ONLY |
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| 20:10.25 | blast007 | Thumper_: try now |
| 20:10.34 | Thumper_ | better |
| 20:10.40 | blast007 | silly chmod |
| 20:10.50 | blast007 | should enable ACLs |
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| 20:11.48 | blast007 | JeffM: and yes, that was sarcasm ;) |
| 20:12.12 | JeffM | we could move wiki and main website over at any time right? |
| 20:12.16 | blast007 | yeah |
| 20:12.21 | JeffM | get it working on wiki.bzflag.org |
| 20:12.45 | JeffM | then just setup my with some redirects |
| 20:14.12 | blast007 | yes, my needs to die :) |
| 20:14.47 | JeffM | should I send a message to tim to have him make wiki.bzflag.org and mainsite.bzflag.org so we can setup testing? |
| 20:14.56 | blast007 | and then everything should be only available from a single domain.. right now we have google listings for stats.bzflag.org and bzbb.bzflag.org and my.bzflag.org all to the same pages |
| 20:15.07 | JeffM | yeah |
| 20:15.32 | blast007 | I wouldn't bother with the mainsite one |
| 20:15.34 | blast007 | wiki, yes |
| 20:15.39 | JeffM | k |
| 20:15.44 | blast007 | the mainsite we can just tweak our hosts file to test |
| 20:15.51 | blast007 | and then just move it |
| 20:16.13 | JeffM | I also setup whatever.bzflag.opencombat.net when I do domains, so we always have something to access them by |
| 20:16.27 | blast007 | k |
| 20:16.42 | JeffM | ponders registering openwombat.net |
| 20:17.14 | JeffM | or mortalwombat |
| 20:20.15 | Thumper_ | blast007: if regcomp() returns an error (which you don't test for) is it valid to free it? |
| 20:20.26 | Constitution | did we ever find an OS X 10.4 user to test the RC1 build? |
| 20:20.52 | blast007 | Thumper_: in my test, it returned 0 |
| 20:21.14 | blast007 | but let me actually test for that |
| 20:21.41 | JeffM | Constitution, I dunno, but I am less concerned bout 10.4 |
| 20:21.50 | JeffM | if it runs on 10.5 I'll be happy for a first build |
| 20:21.58 | Constitution | oh, RC2 already |
| 20:22.07 | JeffM | soon to be 3 |
| 20:22.08 | blast007 | and we'll be RC3 later today |
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| 20:48.35 | Constitution | how long between RC3 and release ideally? |
| 21:03.16 | JeffM | as short as possible |
| 21:03.22 | JeffM | I'd like to release sometime this weekend |
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| 21:45.49 | Erroneous | Thumper_: as I understand it, regfree may only be called on a successfully compiled regex |
| 21:46.00 | Erroneous | otherwise behavior is undefined |
| 22:11.13 | TD-Linux | top |
| 22:13.52 | Thumper_ | blast007: regcomp can fail due to things like REG_ESPACE: The regex routines ran out of memory. |
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| 23:05.57 | blast007 | I checked the regcomp and I'm still getting a crash |
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