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| 02:03.51 | randomparticle | In serverlink::sendenter not sure why the +4 is in the array size expression |
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| 02:28.25 | blast007 | randomparticle: for the type and team |
| 02:29.12 | randomparticle | hmm |
| 02:30.46 | randomparticle | i'm not sure what the playeridplen is then |
| 02:32.27 | randomparticle | in the wiki description, type and team are shown under that |
| 02:34.00 | randomparticle | i don't know if we're dealing with two separate things here or they're on and the same |
| 02:39.57 | blast007 | PlayerIdPLen may not be necessary there, as I don't see the player ID being packed into the message |
| 02:50.42 | randomparticle | also, not sure if a player would even have an id before join msg issued |
| 03:04.16 | blast007 | I think they do |
| 03:05.11 | blast007 | iirc, it was sent after the connection but before the MsgEnter (sent after or shortly after the protocol string) |
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| 03:11.22 | randomparticle | ok, i obviously need to look at this more closely. thanks |
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| 04:04.24 | yosef | where in the world is the explode1 png file in the 'data' folder used in the code? does it exist there? |
| 04:04.55 | blast007 | yosef: someone said search for explode%d |
| 04:05.28 | blast007 | which definately shows where |
| 04:07.33 | yosef | I tried that. |
| 04:07.49 | blast007 | then you're doing it wrong |
| 04:07.53 | yosef | and all I see is GL related stuff |
| 04:08.06 | blast007 | what did you grep for? |
| 04:08.15 | yosef | explode |
| 04:08.26 | blast007 | again, that's not what we told you to look for |
| 04:08.38 | yosef | yes, my client crashed after posing the question |
| 04:08.41 | blast007 | you were told to look for explode%d |
| 04:08.52 | blast007 | so, what, you don't have IRC logs? :) |
| 04:09.01 | blast007 | oh web IRC |
| 04:09.17 | blast007 | so by "my client crashed", you mean your browser did |
| 04:09.31 | yosef | IRC: missed it, thanks |
| 04:09.49 | yosef | client - no, bzflag graphics mess up every so often when running it from netbeans |
| 04:10.14 | yosef | screen graphics, so a cold reboot is required |
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| 04:13.17 | blast007 | you could probably just kill X |
| 04:13.40 | blast007 | Ctrl+Alt+Backspace (though I know Ubuntu disables that by default now - was easy enough to turn back on though) |
| 04:14.46 | blast007 | a real IRC client would be recommended anyway since most of them support logging :) |
| 04:15.13 | a_meteorite | Real men use telnet! |
| 04:15.31 | blast007 | a_meteorite: so you're using an IRC client then? |
| 04:15.53 | a_meteorite | Yeah, so I'm not a real man. Using a client. :P |
| 04:16.25 | blast007 | yes, that's what I was implying, but thanks for spelling it out ;) |
| 04:35.28 | moiree | yosef: On Linux you could perhaps press CTRL+ALT+SYSRQ+R and then switch to another console to kill the bzflag client. |
| 04:36.26 | yosef | blast007: explodeDeathEffect in playing.cxx is nice, but I don't see what line parses the png and turns it into an explosion on-screen |
| 04:36.32 | yosef | moiree: thanks |
| 04:39.10 | blast007 | yosef: follow the code/variables around |
| 04:39.16 | blast007 | prototypeExplosions is used elsewhere |
| 04:43.11 | yosef | moiree: all that does is make the keyboard useless |
| 04:44.30 | moiree | Oh, well. You might want to reboot then. |
| 05:07.22 | trepan | a_meteorite: does anyone use telnet anymore? |
| 05:07.59 | a_meteorite | sometimes I do for quick testing of apps that make use of the net |
| 05:08.17 | trepan | netcat is your friend :) |
| 05:08.58 | trepan | nc + ssh = telnet + r.i.p. |
| 05:09.24 | a_meteorite | never played with netcat |
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| 05:17.24 | Kutakizukari | Which file is the bzflag server in the download section of sourceforge? |
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| 05:29.27 | BulletCatcher | Kutakizukari: The bzfs server is not packaged as a separate file. |
| 05:29.58 | BulletCatcher | The Windows and Mac downloads include bzfs in them. |
| 05:30.16 | Kutakizukari | BulletCatcher: I want to play a map without other players to practice shots, how do I do that? |
| 05:30.29 | BulletCatcher | What operating system do you use? |
| 05:30.42 | Kutakizukari | win7 64bit |
| 05:31.33 | BulletCatcher | I think bzfs is included in the regular Windows download. |
| 05:31.41 | Kutakizukari | k |
| 05:32.45 | BulletCatcher | After you start bzflag, go to the "Join Game" menu and choose "Start Server" at the bottom. |
| 05:33.15 | BulletCatcher | I don't promise it will work, but if it does that is the easiest way to do solo practice. |
| 05:39.07 | yosef | is anyone an admin on the LizardWiki server that's up right now? |
| 05:39.18 | yosef | can they please ban systemoverlord |
| 05:39.41 | yosef | oh wait, nevermind |
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| 08:38.58 | CIA-95 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r21806 10/branches/experimental/v2_99continuing/bzflag/src/ (87 files in 17 dirs): |
| 08:38.58 | CIA-95 | BZFlag: * renamed logDebugMessage() to debugf() |
| 08:38.58 | CIA-95 | BZFlag: (and renamed the debugf() in HubLink to hubDebugf()) |
| 08:42.55 | trepan | if (strlen("logDebugMessage") > 8) { printf("too bloody long\n"); } |
| 08:43.19 | trepan | tbh, logf() would suffice :) |
| 08:43.47 | trepan | hm, except for that pesky math function :) |
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| 09:10.53 | CIA-95 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r21807 10/branches/experimental/v2_99continuing/bzflag/src/include/ (foreach.h typeof.h): |
| 09:10.53 | CIA-95 | BZFlag: * could someone test these with MSVC? |
| 09:10.53 | CIA-95 | BZFlag: (with whatever version(s) you think apply) |
| 09:28.41 | CIA-95 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r21808 10/branches/experimental/v2_99continuing/bzflag/src/include/typeof.h: * use defined(__clang__) |
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| 10:23.20 | CIA-95 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r21809 10/branches/experimental/v2_99continuing/bzflag/src/ (45 files in 16 dirs): * ran ./misc/indent (because of the logDebugMessage / debugf rename) |
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| 12:20.25 | Guest14148 | Hi |
| 12:29.57 | kierra | howdy |
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| 14:10.51 | randomparticle | i'm writing some code to connect to and join a server (an experiment) |
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| 14:11.18 | randomparticle | i get the server identifier msg and then send msgEnter |
| 14:11.30 | randomparticle | but I don't get an accept/reject back |
| 14:11.39 | randomparticle | just the usual game time msgs |
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| 14:57.50 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r21810 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: Only display MsgMessage messages that we know how to handle. |
| 16:03.02 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r21811 10/trunk/bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx): Support sending other text message types from the bzfs API. |
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| 16:48.45 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r21812 10/trunk/bzflag/man/bzw.5.in: Slight whitespace tweak |
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| 17:24.01 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r21813 10/trunk/bzflag/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Always require valid authentication for registered names. (Backported from r18380) |
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| 17:37.56 | blast007 | JeffM: maybe I'm missing something, but shouldn't we have versioned API events, not just versioned data? |
| 17:38.48 | JeffM | the events don't change |
| 17:38.52 | JeffM | we just add new ones |
| 17:39.25 | blast007 | okay. so if I'm handling bz_ePlayerJoinEvent, how can the eventData be both bz_PlayerJoinPartEventData_V1 and bz_PlayerJoinPartEventData_V2 ? |
| 17:39.26 | JeffM | I could not figure out a way to indicate what events were in what version cleanly cus you can't derive an enum from an enum :) |
| 17:40.03 | JeffM | the "handle 'class takes the base type |
| 17:40.12 | JeffM | in 2.6 you woudl cast it to the v2 data type |
| 17:40.18 | JeffM | that is DERIVED form the V1 data type |
| 17:40.30 | JeffM | if you are an old plugin you cast it to the V1 data type and get what you want |
| 17:40.43 | JeffM | and the cast will work because V1 is a base class of V2 |
| 17:41.23 | JeffM | that way we can add fields to the record and have old plugins not need to know about them |
| 17:41.36 | blast007 | okay, so a Vn set of data will always be a superset of a Vn-1 set of data? |
| 17:41.50 | JeffM | yes |
| 17:41.58 | JeffM | we can't remove data, but we can add it |
| 17:42.02 | JeffM | better then nothin :) |
| 17:42.09 | blast007 | ok. that makes sense. |
| 17:43.22 | JeffM | I thought about making the event enum part of the bzPlugin class and verioning it, but then using it would not have been very clean |
| 17:45.49 | blast007 | also, there appears to be a crash right now if you try to start a server on an unavailable port (like if you run a second server on port 5154) |
| 17:46.30 | blast007 | dies when cleaning up the WorldEventManager |
| 17:48.02 | JeffM | interesting |
| 17:48.34 | blast007 | line 34 of src/bzfs/WorldEventManager.cxx when cleaning up a tick event |
| 17:48.46 | blast007 | and that's without any plugins |
| 17:50.04 | blast007 | wondering if it's related to the HTTPIndexHandler? |
| 17:54.05 | blast007 | does seem to be, as it doesn't happen if I don't call InitHTTP/KillHTTP |
| 17:58.45 | blast007 | hmm. unloadPlugins doesn't get called if the server cannot start, so KillHTTP isn't getting called. |
| 18:01.47 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r21814 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: Unload plugins if the server cannot start (such as when the port is already being used). |
| 18:03.01 | blast007 | there, no more crash :) |
| 18:05.32 | JeffM | cool |
| 18:05.49 | JeffM | yeah some internals use the same features as the plugin system |
| 18:06.39 | blast007 | I'm not sure if I'll be able to finish the server-side stats thing before the 12th. At least not in the way I'd want it to be done. |
| 18:07.46 | JeffM | you mean push stats? |
| 18:08.15 | blast007 | er, yeah, that :) |
| 18:08.28 | JeffM | will the part that pushes the data up be done? |
| 18:08.45 | blast007 | dunno |
| 18:09.00 | JeffM | cus we don't have to reveal the service at launch time |
| 18:09.11 | JeffM | it'd just be nice to have the servers trying to push |
| 18:09.20 | blast007 | I just don't want to have a completely broken system in there to start off with |
| 18:09.27 | JeffM | true |
| 18:09.40 | blast007 | it's something that deserves a lot more attention and planning |
| 18:09.40 | JeffM | but if you know what you need on the server side, do that then do the rest later |
| 18:09.50 | JeffM | if it's not good enough then we have to do a 2.4.2 for it away |
| 18:09.52 | JeffM | true |
| 18:10.25 | JeffM | the idea was to make the server side very simple and just send all data |
| 18:10.31 | blast007 | yeah |
| 18:10.31 | JeffM | and leave the logic on the web site |
| 18:10.57 | JeffM | so I think it should not be too hard to come up with the needed dataset to be sent by the game server |
| 18:10.58 | blast007 | still needs a lot of work to get it to do just that part |
| 18:11.04 | JeffM | k |
| 18:11.09 | blast007 | the backport that mdskpr_ doesn't really work at all |
| 18:11.21 | blast007 | mdskpr_ posted* |
| 18:11.28 | JeffM | do you want to pull it? |
| 18:11.33 | blast007 | it's not in yet |
| 18:11.38 | JeffM | k |
| 18:11.39 | blast007 | I had just had him post it to the patch tracker |
| 18:11.55 | JeffM | want to develop the new system as a plugin first, make sure it works then make the call to make it internal later? |
| 18:12.07 | JeffM | then it can have a seperate release then the main app |
| 18:12.14 | blast007 | yeah |
| 18:12.22 | JeffM | sounds fair enough |
| 18:12.57 | Pimpinella | blast007: always requiring identification of registered callsigns means that you cannot play with that callsign if there are listserver problems, no? |
| 18:13.03 | blast007 | right |
| 18:13.37 | JeffM | isn't there a group that becomes active when auth is down? |
| 18:13.47 | Thumper_ | not that I'm aware of |
| 18:13.55 | blast007 | the MonkeysAteTheListServer group? |
| 18:14.11 | JeffM | it'd be nice to have that, where you could set that group to spawn but no talk |
| 18:14.17 | Thumper_ | EveryoneIsAdminBecauseTheServerIsDown group |
| 18:14.21 | JeffM | and it'd only be applied to people when auth was unreachable |
| 18:14.45 | JeffM | tho we really need to get auth to a more stable server/ set of servers |
| 18:15.01 | blast007 | I can pull that change if we don't want it right now |
| 18:15.10 | blast007 | it was just something in 2.99.x I found |
| 18:15.15 | JeffM | what change did you do? |
| 18:15.28 | blast007 | always require valid auth for registered names |
| 18:15.29 | Pimpinella | hmm, yes. i remember it was discussed then |
| 18:15.56 | blast007 | if the list is down, how does the server know a name is registered? |
| 18:16.12 | Pimpinella | hm, yes |
| 18:16.17 | JeffM | it should not affect people when the list is down then |
| 18:16.37 | blast007 | does it cache somewhere? or was it only a problem in the past because the IP of the list was always cached? |
| 18:16.43 | JeffM | I think it's fine cus it's saying ,"If you know this is a registerd name, make sure the registered person uses it" |
| 18:16.46 | blast007 | was cached forever* |
| 18:16.53 | JeffM | I don't think the names are cached |
| 18:20.00 | JeffM | should we reject a player just cus they have an "unreadable" motto? why not just blank it now that we have that option? |
| 18:21.34 | Pimpinella | today i noticed, that i can't scroll up in chat history, is there a setting where that is toggled? |
| 18:21.51 | blast007 | Pimpinella: had you looked into backporting the server-side flag identification? |
| 18:22.07 | Pimpinella | almost done, testing |
| 18:22.12 | blast007 | cool |
| 18:28.08 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r21815 10/trunk/bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx src/game/PlayerInfo.cxx): |
| 18:28.08 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: when someone has a bad motto just blank it |
| 18:28.08 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: let the API get a crack at setting a player's motto before it is sent out everywhere. |
| 18:28.47 | Pimpinella | any idea about the chat window? |
| 18:29.05 | JeffM | use a debuger ;) |
| 18:29.43 | blast007 | Pimpinella: is your key mapping set up right? |
| 18:35.09 | Pimpinella | probably not |
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| 20:04.57 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r21816 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzadmin/ (BZAdminClient.cxx BZAdminClient.h): Use the message type value introduced in r21613 to recognize action (/me) messages. |
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| 20:57.46 | Pimpinella | it seems bzflag took $HOME/.bzf/config and used it as base for $HOME/,bzf/2.4/config.cfg |
| 20:58.21 | Pimpinella | that config file must be still from 1.7 or 1.10 |
| 20:59.04 | Pimpinella | we should probably try to find something newer than that... |
| 21:19.37 | catay | Regarding that group that gets active when global is down, it's called DISCONNECTED if i'm correct |
| 21:20.15 | catay | can't remember how exactly it works |
| 21:21.29 | catay | I think if the listserver was down the players just got some default perms assigend to them |
| 21:21.36 | catay | specified in the group file |
| 21:55.21 | blast007 | I'll have to check |
| 21:55.43 | BulletCatcher | It looks like a player will get the permissions of the DISCONNECTED group when joining while global can't be reached. |
| 23:10.37 | KTL | http://www.download-free-games.com/review/bz-flag/ <- there is a disagree button down there... |
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| 23:15.25 | Foo_man_choo | ah. loaded up. I strongy disagree with that review ;) |
| 23:15.45 | Foo_man_choo | stupid heavy duty thunderstorms |
| 23:20.09 | blast007 | obvious a poor review since they can't even type the name of the game properly :) |
| 23:20.24 | blast007 | obviously* |
| 23:29.09 | Foo_man_choo | hyphen ftl |
| 23:30.08 | Foo_man_choo | sends link and instructions to friends.... for what good that will do. |
| 23:35.11 | JeffM | I think the site turned the space into a hypen |
| 23:37.50 | blast007 | JeffM: yeah, but that's what I was referring to. The space. |
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| 23:46.13 | CIA-103 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r21817 10/trunk/bzflag/ (include/bzfsHTTPAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfsHTTPAPI.cxx): HTML template rendering with all but includes |
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| 23:54.48 | Foo_man_choo | ergh.. I was thinking |
| 23:55.00 | Foo_man_choo | hyphen? in the url? But I guess I know better now |