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14:20.18 | JeffM | any of the kiddies bucked up to save bzflag? |
14:20.33 | blast007 | haven't seen anything here |
14:21.57 | JeffM | it's funny how surprised they act when we mention it's deadening |
14:22.22 | Cobra_Fast | say what? bzflag is dying? :O |
14:22.35 | JeffM | it has the butt cancer |
14:22.41 | Cobra_Fast | oh noes! |
14:23.45 | JeffM | port it to the DS that'll save it |
14:24.47 | Cobra_Fast | i dont own a DS |
14:25.24 | JeffM | when has the hard fact of limited hardware ownership EVER affected what people posting about a port to a device matterd? |
14:25.57 | Cobra_Fast | never |
14:26.49 | Cobra_Fast | maybe we should rewrite BZFlag in Java. That'll make it run everywhere. |
14:27.46 | blast007 | mono got ported to Android now too |
14:27.57 | Cobra_Fast | o rly? then lets do C# |
14:29.07 | JeffM | C# gets you the major benifits of java, less of the suck, and an installed runtime on your majority platform |
14:29.40 | Cobra_Fast | i know, im using it a lot |
14:29.44 | JeffM | it's also prety simple to make a mac .app that contains the mono runtime |
14:29.51 | blast007 | JeffM: sometimes installed already ;) |
14:30.26 | JeffM | targeting .net 2 would make it installed on any modern windows. |
14:30.41 | JeffM | blast007, unbutu has it premade right? |
14:30.50 | blast007 | can't recall |
14:31.04 | blast007 | I don't generally run GUIs with linux, so I don't get fancy stuff like that |
14:31.38 | Cobra_Fast | time for wubi |
14:32.15 | JeffM | I do wonder what the CLI server needs for dependencies |
14:32.36 | Cobra_Fast | System; |
14:32.44 | blast007 | I had run mono on my last server, but it was debian, and I *think* I compiled mono from source |
14:32.55 | JeffM | it may need GL... I may have used the OpenTK vector classes |
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15:09.33 | WarPig | Hmm... I appear to be firewalled from bztank.net. :( |
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15:09.43 | WarPig | ...was it something I said? |
15:10.20 | JeffM | who owns it? |
15:10.44 | WarPig | Good question |
15:12.12 | WarPig | traceroute stops at xe1-01.gwy01.mnuk01.hostnoc.eu |
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15:38.12 | blast007 | doesn't Benfish run that? |
15:38.19 | WarPig | definately firewalled. I can connect from another IP |
15:38.39 | JeffM | send the owner an PM on bzbb |
15:38.47 | JeffM | all you can really do |
15:39.00 | WarPig | OK - is it Benfish? |
15:39.43 | JeffM | hard to say, we don't keep a list or anything |
15:40.00 | WarPig | A list would be helpful :P |
15:40.16 | JeffM | we don't have any registration requirements for listing a server |
15:40.26 | JeffM | and servers are run indpendent of the project |
15:41.19 | JeffM | V3 was going to add a token a server owner had to get to list so we could at least know there bzbb name |
15:41.57 | WarPig | Is V3 still on track for release 'before the sun explodes'? |
15:42.15 | JeffM | bzflag is pretty much dead re: development |
15:42.43 | WarPig | Yeah, that's a shame. I wish I could do more. I'm no C++ programmer though. |
15:42.53 | JeffM | it had a good 16 year run |
15:42.57 | JeffM | all things must end |
15:44.11 | WarPig | Any gsoc activity this year? |
15:44.16 | JeffM | no |
15:44.32 | WarPig | bummer |
15:44.34 | JeffM | we have not participated in the last 2 |
15:44.41 | JeffM | it would be silly to apply |
15:44.54 | JeffM | no SOC code has ever been released cus our development is dead |
15:45.08 | JeffM | and you can't base a projects development on student help :) |
15:46.44 | brlcad | well you could, it just would be pretty messy :) |
15:46.50 | JeffM | indeed |
15:47.08 | WarPig | More messy than it already is? :P |
15:47.12 | JeffM | yes |
15:47.14 | brlcad | yep |
15:47.19 | brlcad | a lot more |
15:47.30 | Manu | :D |
15:47.31 | JeffM | and it would not teach the students anything valuable other then "nobody ever uses your code" |
15:48.16 | brlcad | i think it'd be more like them learning the "food fight" scene from animal house is how people actually eat :) |
15:48.28 | JeffM | yeah |
15:48.32 | WarPig | XD |
15:48.41 | brlcad | flings a pizza towards JeffM |
15:48.54 | Manu | hi brlcad JeffM |
15:48.57 | JeffM | "oh look.. logging" |
15:49.00 | Manu | hi WarPig |
15:49.07 | WarPig | hi Manu :) |
15:49.33 | Manu | how's your cooking brlcad? ;) |
15:49.44 | brlcad | Manu: *fantastic* |
15:50.31 | WarPig | <-- spent 1982 to 1992 cooking in a French Creole restaurant. |
15:50.56 | WarPig | Aieeeee! Gumbo! |
15:51.04 | Manu | has to cook every day... |
15:51.53 | JeffM | how's the server move coming :) |
15:52.12 | Manu | it's taking long I guess ;) |
15:52.21 | JeffM | 3 years now? |
15:52.36 | Manu | or longer.. :/ |
15:54.18 | Manu | brlcad: is the european server still alive? |
15:56.51 | brlcad | Manu: the german one was shut down over a year ago since it wasn't being used |
15:57.00 | brlcad | the new server is coming along great |
15:57.12 | JeffM | cool |
15:57.13 | brlcad | there's a lot to migrate, will take time |
15:57.13 | Manu | that's good |
15:57.30 | brlcad | the specs on the motd are out-of-date |
15:57.37 | brlcad | it's quite a bit faster, bigger, better now |
15:57.58 | JeffM | still single core? |
15:58.04 | brlcad | don't have the specs off the top of my head handy, but no |
15:58.14 | brlcad | it's multi |
15:58.24 | JeffM | tons more ram right? |
15:58.28 | brlcad | yep |
15:58.32 | JeffM | cus that essy thing is a pig |
15:58.34 | brlcad | and disk |
15:58.42 | Manu | one core only for SC ;) |
15:58.59 | JeffM | or just shunt her off to a VPS, be simpler to manage |
15:59.01 | brlcad | the websites are going to be the first to migrate |
15:59.27 | brlcad | i'll post updates when it's under way since tim will have to update dns |
15:59.47 | brlcad | for bzflag.org and m.b.o |
15:59.52 | JeffM | I think we are on a dual CPU 3.2 gig zeon now |
15:59.57 | brlcad | nods |
16:00.14 | JeffM | how much traffic do you do a month? |
16:00.38 | brlcad | don't recall exactly |
16:01.14 | JeffM | we do squat |
16:01.40 | JeffM | even when one of the drupal sites was getting spammed to the point where the machine died, we only did 70gigs that month |
16:01.52 | brlcad | yeah, that's nothing |
16:02.01 | brlcad | bz's way way more than that sustained |
16:02.45 | JeffM | wonder how much is forum spam :) |
16:04.48 | brlcad | last I checked, it was split between bzfls traffic and web traffic for all sites, so probably less than 2% would be my guess |
16:05.22 | brlcad | a lot of traffic from the seach engines |
16:06.09 | brlcad | fairly high index rating, so it gets requeried frequenty by lots of engines |
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18:05.19 | blast007 | wouldn't need support for 4 |
18:14.15 | JeffM | totaly should do a game in WPF |
18:23.57 | trepan | WPF, the new MFC? |
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