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14:47.42 | kierra | replacement for whom? is jeffm retiring? |
14:47.55 | kierra | or riker giving up rights to bzf? |
14:48.38 | kierra | or blast is.....hmmm, gotta think hard about this one |
14:49.12 | kierra | i know, brlcad is getting married and we need to replace him here????? |
14:49.23 | kierra | hopes she's invited to the wedding |
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14:53.51 | trepan | kierra: replacement for bzflag |
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15:33.42 | kierra | hi brlcad |
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15:43.12 | kierra | theres no replacement, trepan, forking maybe |
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15:50.05 | KTL | i need to get some data in my kill database, need to get some registered player at planetmofo 4120 |
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15:52.52 | BulletCatcher | KTL: I can spare a few minutes, and I am very skilled at getting killed. |
16:06.48 | trepan | kierra: it depends on your perspective, if the "replacement" doesn't use any of the original code, is it a fork? from a project overview standpoint, probably; from a coders perspective, probably not |
16:08.11 | JeffM | what would be worth keeping? |
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16:12.04 | trepan | Jeff: I'd vote for a rewrite, tabula rasa; but you knew that already ;) |
16:12.17 | JeffM | yeah I know |
16:12.32 | JeffM | it woudl be a better product after a ground up redux |
16:13.06 | trepan | but (tbh), i don't think there's enough skill+interest in this channel to pull off a rewrite |
16:13.15 | JeffM | the last run of bzflag shirts is up for sale here if anyone wants one, http://awesomelaserstore.bigcartel.com/ |
16:13.26 | JeffM | possibly not |
16:13.35 | JeffM | not from the gorund up |
16:13.47 | JeffM | if there was something people could poke around with I think that would get more interest |
16:14.28 | JeffM | or if it used more third party libs so that people would not have to deal with stuff like graphics and low level networking it would help the skill part |
16:22.33 | trepan | quake mod? |
16:24.24 | KTL | even trepan did not hear of this |
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16:28.41 | JeffM | no something like using ogre or lightfeather |
16:29.05 | trepan | did not hear of this? |
16:29.10 | JeffM | tho basing it of an existing open source game would be possible |
16:29.34 | JeffM | quake would not be my first choice. I'm not a huge fan of C |
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16:30.29 | JeffM | if you want a turnkey free but not FOSS soultion there is torque |
16:30.40 | JeffM | ooo darkbasic...;) |
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17:45.02 | JeffM | still likes the idea of a managed app just to get a single deliverable. |
17:45.27 | blast007 | JeffM: yeah :) |
17:45.36 | JeffM | then autopatching is easy |
17:45.47 | JeffM | none of this "you are running an old version" crap |
17:46.04 | blast007 | I was gonna toy around with OpenTK, but OpenGL acceleration in my VM decided to stop working after upgrading to VirtualBox 4.0.4 |
17:46.20 | JeffM | heh |
17:53.15 | JeffM | yeah OpenTK makes some stuff easy, specialy when it has openAL support too |
17:54.08 | blast007 | http://phpopengl.sourceforge.net/ there we go! |
17:54.58 | blast007 | AAA can finishing writing his server in PHP too |
18:05.49 | JeffM | riiighhhtttt |
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19:21.24 | JeffM | OpenTK dosn't have a scenegraph but I did a quick octree implementation once |
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21:03.04 | JeffM | blast007, C# would loose SGI support |
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21:18.08 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffM -> http://my.BZFlag.org || http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || Channel Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/ || 2.0.16 is the current release, use it wisely |
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21:36.29 | ahs3- | blast007: http://bzbb.bzflag.org/bb/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=52007&sid=9118945ae3c1f12d1a6ffa0c226a4917 |
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21:36.49 | ahs3- | spammer |
21:38.25 | JeffM | it's been reported |
21:40.34 | ahs3- | k |
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21:57.28 | blast007 | JeffM: heh, oh well |
21:57.39 | JeffM | it will make the one person cry |
21:57.48 | JeffM | but then we can video tape it and put it on youtube |
21:58.20 | blast007 | they can just play over VNC like the iPhone/iPad/Android/PSP/etc people |
21:58.26 | JeffM | there we go |
21:58.32 | JeffM | or just port mono |
21:58.38 | blast007 | :) |
21:59.03 | JeffM | the most important thing a replacement would need would be a cool name and a bitchen logo |
21:59.11 | trepan | or just go with MFC, and let the chips fall where they may |
21:59.20 | JeffM | ewww |
21:59.49 | JeffM | "Sorry can't load your tank, your COM object coudl not get an ODBC link to the server" |
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23:11.34 | CIA-14 | opencombat: 03JeffM2501 * r79 10/trunk/P2501/Apps/Client/Startup/StartupForm.cs: don't try to select a saved callsign when there aren't any. |
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23:41.47 | CIA-14 | GPLib: 03JeffM2501 * r445 10/trunk/GPLib/Drawables/ (Textures.cs DisplayLists.cs Drawables.cs): add tags to textures and drawables to help them be used |
23:41.53 | CIA-14 | GPLib: 03JeffM2501 * r446 10/trunk/GPLib/GraphTest/ (Form1.cs API.cs): add screenshot ability to record module sequences |
23:41.53 | CIA-14 | GPLib: 03JeffM2501 * r447 10/trunk/Common/ (Host/Host.csproj ServerConfigurator/ServerConfig.cs): fix references and allow servers to start from a default config. |
23:41.57 | CIA-14 | opencombat: 03JeffM2501 * r80 10/trunk/P2501/ (9 files in 4 dirs): let game client start a local server thread for testing. |