| 00:04.39 | Juest | wher i can get the c++ JIT debugger? |
| 00:04.51 | Juest | because this is not a jit debugger |
| 00:04.57 | Juest | the vc++9ee |
| 00:05.59 | blast007 | you need that, why? |
| 00:06.28 | blast007 | and you'd probably have to buy the full Visual Studio |
| 00:06.28 | Juest | do i need a JIT? |
| 00:06.29 | blast007 | I don' tknow |
| 00:06.35 | blast007 | yeah, why do you need JIT? |
| 00:06.47 | Juest | for fully debugging |
| 00:06.53 | blast007 | for what? |
| 00:06.55 | Juest | because is better JIT |
| 00:07.07 | blast007 | then shell out some money |
| 00:07.15 | Juest | ummmm for bz especailly bzadmin |
| 00:07.31 | Juest | ummmm for that i must get the full vs????? |
| 00:08.01 | Juest | and need zlib? |
| 00:08.08 | Juest | and pdcurses¿ |
| 00:08.57 | blast007 | yeah, probably need the full VS |
| 00:09.35 | blast007 | ask Microsoft |
| 00:09.44 | Juest | lol |
| 00:10.32 | Juest | what's trunk size? |
| 00:10.34 | Juest | whole |
| 00:10.51 | Juest | and compared to v2.0 branch? |
| 00:11.00 | blast007 | 12 Petabytes |
| 00:11.06 | blast007 | versus 10 Megabytes |
| 00:11.31 | Juest | v2_0 branch haves just 10 mb? |
| 00:11.37 | blast007 | we added the complete genetic code for a few hundred humans in trunk |
| 00:12.00 | Juest | and Trunk haves 12petrabytes???????? |
| 00:12.05 | Juest | that's not true |
| 00:12.12 | blast007 | duh? :P |
| 00:12.24 | Juest | is impossible |
| 00:12.42 | blast007 | none of what I just said was true (except this line... or IS it?) |
| 00:12.42 | Juest | oh LOL |
| 00:12.56 | Juest | trought was true |
| 00:15.26 | Juest | :O |
| 00:15.45 | Juest | blast: did u downloaded the trunk? |
| 00:15.49 | Juest | last r |
| 00:16.23 | Juest | it haves much more than at begining of 2010 |
| 00:16.27 | Juest | feb 2010 |
| 00:20.23 | Juest | why i am getting more than excepted? |
| 00:20.27 | Juest | for trunk |
| 00:25.46 | Constitution | you probably checked out the whole tree |
| 00:26.01 | Juest | no, just the trunktree |
| 00:26.02 | Constitution | or are impatient |
| 00:26.12 | blast007 | did you get trunk/ or trunk/bzflag/ ? |
| 00:26.17 | Juest | o.o? |
| 00:26.21 | Juest | trunk |
| 00:26.25 | Juest | whole thing |
| 00:26.28 | blast007 | yeah, then you got more than bzflag |
| 00:26.33 | Juest | is better |
| 00:26.50 | blast007 | you got bzflag, bzworkbench, our websites, and whatever else |
| 00:26.57 | Juest | :O |
| 00:27.05 | blast007 | you just needed trunk/bzflag/ |
| 00:27.09 | Juest | and bzfs and bzadmin |
| 00:27.12 | blast007 | the wiki page explained this |
| 00:27.16 | Juest | wel, when i came up |
| 00:27.19 | blast007 | I'm talking about the 'bzflag' module |
| 00:27.31 | Juest | i just downloaded trunk |
| 00:27.36 | Juest | it was shorter |
| 00:27.45 | Juest | 7141 items |
| 00:27.57 | Juest | now i get these item count |
| 00:28.07 | blast007 | ? |
| 00:28.20 | blast007 | it's pointless trying to help you |
| 00:28.24 | Juest | uhg |
| 00:28.33 | Juest | and do remember before? |
| 00:28.47 | blast007 | I'm going to go kill zombies now, bye |
| 00:28.50 | Juest | bye xD |
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| 01:35.10 | Juest | hey now i have full bz trunk |
| 01:35.14 | Juest | compiled |
| 01:35.32 | Juest | and when i open it with -dd |
| 01:35.42 | Juest | i see this |
| 01:36.07 | Juest | Image not found or unloadable: mountain6 |
| 01:36.07 | Juest | Image not found or unloadable: explode3 |
| 01:36.24 | Juest | is this beacuse the engine can support more of these? |
| 01:43.19 | Juest | hey, what's trunk current version? |
| 01:46.40 | mrapple | 2.99.x |
| 01:46.44 | mrapple | do you mean the revision number? |
| 01:46.47 | Juest | yeah |
| 01:47.54 | Juest | i have r213366 by cobrafast |
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| 01:49.03 | Juest | that's match? |
| 01:49.11 | Juest | mrapple |
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| 01:50.51 | Juest | does that revison match? |
| 01:53.58 | mrapple | ? |
| 01:54.13 | mrapple | just run 'svn up' |
| 01:55.33 | mrapple | or you could look yourself http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/ |
| 01:56.59 | Juest | i just using tortoise svn on win |
| 01:57.16 | Juest | why i see this on bzfs 2.99.x console |
| 01:57.32 | Juest | File transfer terminated with error from libcurl 6 : Could not resolve host: stattrack.bzflag.org (Domain name not found) |
| 01:57.32 | Juest | Player [0] accept() from 190.194.207.118 on 280 |
| 01:57.32 | Juest | Player [0] removed at 2011-02-17 22:53:33: ECONNRESET/EPIPE |
| 01:57.39 | Juest | i am the player |
| 01:57.48 | Juest | and that crashes client |
| 01:58.00 | Juest | ideas? |
| 01:58.06 | Juest | hosting on windows |
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| 02:06.15 | _zz_ | i am juest, the nick is off, waiting for ping timeout or else |
| 02:06.32 | _zz_ | well, i need help with that |
| 02:08.34 | Juest | hey |
| 02:22.06 | Juest | hello |
| 02:22.08 | Juest | ' |
| 02:22.11 | Juest | ? |
| 02:48.12 | blast007 | Juest: stattrack doesn't exist yet. that's why. |
| 02:48.34 | Juest | and the kicking? |
| 02:48.40 | Juest | the crash |
| 02:48.47 | blast007 | because 2.99.x is bugger? |
| 02:48.51 | blast007 | buggy* |
| 02:48.53 | Juest | o.o? |
| 02:49.09 | blast007 | you're using development code and wondering why it's crashing |
| 02:49.13 | blast007 | well gee! |
| 02:49.24 | Juest | i using r23366 by cobrafast |
| 02:49.43 | Juest | yep |
| 02:49.58 | blast007 | you mean 21366 |
| 02:50.24 | Juest | aw yeah :P |
| 02:52.56 | Juest | xDddd |
| 02:53.00 | Juest | :P |
| 02:53.09 | Juest | then |
| 02:53.14 | Juest | why it happens? |
| 02:53.22 | blast007 | because it's buggy |
| 02:53.34 | Juest | and is there a patch? |
| 02:54.00 | blast007 | I have no idea what crash you're even talking about |
| 02:54.07 | blast007 | you have given me no useful information |
| 02:54.12 | blast007 | except "it crashes!" |
| 02:54.28 | blast007 | you have told me nothing about how to reproduce it |
| 02:54.37 | blast007 | so you are just wasting our time |
| 02:54.38 | Juest | the one that crashes client when joining to bzfs first time after starting server |
| 02:54.49 | blast007 | with bots? |
| 02:54.55 | Juest | Player [0] removed at 2011-02-17 22:53:33: ECONNRESET/EPIPE |
| 02:55.00 | Juest | that's says server |
| 02:55.04 | Juest | ummm yeah |
| 02:55.05 | Juest | 1 |
| 02:55.10 | blast007 | try without |
| 02:55.12 | Juest | -.- |
| 02:55.13 | Juest | ok |
| 02:55.23 | Juest | i use two command lines |
| 02:55.26 | blast007 | remember what I said before about "start simple"? :P |
| 02:55.28 | Juest | -bots 4 |
| 02:55.34 | Juest | -solo 4 |
| 02:55.49 | blast007 | why would you use both? |
| 02:56.06 | Juest | and engine is extensible because i seee |
| 02:56.22 | blast007 | they do the same thing |
| 02:56.24 | Juest | Image not found or unloadable: mountain6 |
| 02:56.25 | Juest | Image not found or unloadable: explode3 |
| 02:56.31 | Juest | when using -dd |
| 02:56.40 | blast007 | there's not an "engine" |
| 02:56.48 | blast007 | since that implies some organization ;) |
| 02:56.49 | Juest | well... |
| 02:56.59 | Juest | .... |
| 02:57.30 | blast007 | we have network, graphics, audio, input, etc code mixed together |
| 02:57.32 | Juest | i was told about this extensibility before but i don't remember well |
| 02:57.50 | Juest | u said |
| 02:58.08 | blast007 | I said you could have an arbitrary number of mountain texture files |
| 02:58.17 | Juest | that there will always one more tex unloadable |
| 02:58.20 | Juest | yeah |
| 02:58.26 | Juest | and even yet |
| 02:58.38 | Juest | it happens with explode*.tex |
| 02:58.49 | Juest | too |
| 02:59.01 | Juest | understand.... |
| 02:59.10 | blast007 | probably supports the same thing |
| 02:59.13 | Juest | yeah |
| 02:59.16 | Juest | that's |
| 03:00.14 | Juest | ok, using bz without any command line |
| 03:00.28 | Juest | or may i run it with stdout and -dd? |
| 03:00.42 | blast007 | run it without first |
| 03:00.44 | blast007 | see if it works |
| 03:00.58 | Juest | it just the bots i think |
| 03:01.00 | blast007 | start. simple. read. what. I. say. |
| 03:01.04 | Juest | uhhh |
| 03:02.22 | Juest | now, it dosen't connect |
| 03:02.32 | Juest | it says error connecting server |
| 03:03.21 | Juest | and bzflag freezes while trying to connect loopback |
| 03:03.23 | Juest | why? |
| 03:03.36 | Juest | i have to kill it |
| 03:03.58 | blast007 | shrugs |
| 03:04.07 | blast007 | goes to sleep |
| 03:04.12 | Juest | wanna know |
| 03:05.00 | Juest | won't sleep, yet |
| 03:05.27 | Juest | wakes up blast007 |
| 03:06.36 | Juest | hello? |
| 03:07.28 | Juest | HEY |
| 03:07.40 | Juest | is somebody not asleep? |
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| 03:14.48 | Juest | is somebody not asleep? |
| 03:15.49 | Juest | without any command lines it crashes too blast |
| 03:17.12 | blast007 | "it crashes" tells us nothing - where does it crash? get a stack trace |
| 03:17.50 | Juest | client crashes instantly when it gets connection established |
| 03:18.08 | blast007 | no no no |
| 03:18.16 | blast007 | where in the code? |
| 03:18.33 | blast007 | debug it |
| 03:18.35 | Juest | idk but can i reproduce it? |
| 03:18.43 | blast007 | get a stack trace |
| 03:18.54 | Juest | for that i think will need a JIT |
| 03:18.56 | blast007 | and pastebin the trace |
| 03:18.59 | blast007 | no |
| 03:19.17 | Juest | or vc++9 ee works^? |
| 03:19.35 | blast007 | It should have at least that |
| 03:19.38 | Juest | aw |
| 03:19.41 | Juest | ok |
| 03:19.47 | Juest | debuggin |
| 03:19.49 | blast007 | I have the full, so I don't know |
| 03:19.55 | Juest | uh |
| 03:20.01 | Juest | have JIT? |
| 03:20.41 | blast007 | do you even know what you are talking about? |
| 03:21.15 | Juest | yes, about the crash in techincal-de |
| 03:21.20 | Juest | depth |
| 03:21.45 | blast007 | what is JIT? |
| 03:22.00 | Juest | Just In Time |
| 03:22.08 | Juest | is a debugging mode |
| 03:23.26 | blast007 | just attach to the process with VC |
| 03:23.44 | blast007 | it will catch the crash |
| 03:23.56 | Juest | just the process? |
| 03:24.00 | Juest | in release? |
| 03:24.00 | blast007 | and you can get a stack trace |
| 03:24.09 | blast007 | debyg build |
| 03:24.19 | Juest | debug bulid* |
| 03:24.23 | Juest | is usable? |
| 03:24.32 | blast007 | release build is worthless for debugging |
| 03:24.53 | Juest | is debug bulid usable? |
| 03:25.02 | blast007 | what do you mean? |
| 03:25.08 | blast007 | of course it is |
| 03:25.28 | blast007 | it's the same as release, but with debugging symbols |
| 03:25.32 | Juest | oh |
| 03:25.55 | blast007 | so you can actually get useful info |
| 03:25.58 | Juest | um, there's already a .pdb for evey project |
| 03:26.07 | blast007 | so? |
| 03:26.15 | Juest | um, ok |
| 03:26.22 | Juest | buliding in debug mode |
| 03:26.25 | blast007 | bye |
| 03:26.31 | Juest | Player [0] accept() from 190.194.207.118 on 272 |
| 03:26.32 | Juest | Player [0] removed at 2011-02-18 00:23:23: ECONNRESET/EPIPE |
| 03:26.50 | Juest | that's say in bzfs at the moment of the crash |
| 03:27.10 | Juest | is server or client? |
| 03:27.23 | Juest | may i need to find out debugging? |
| 03:29.50 | Juest | what method i have to use? |
| 03:30.11 | Juest | because i opened bzflag.sln and found many options |
| 03:30.46 | Juest | debug |
| 03:30.58 | Juest | debug multitread |
| 03:31.10 | Juest | and debug singletread |
| 03:31.14 | Juest | ideas? |
| 03:31.24 | Juest | blast? |
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| 04:04.14 | Juest | hey, the buliding is failing |
| 04:05.36 | Juest | hey |
| 04:05.42 | Juest | blast!!!!!!! |
| 04:30.31 | Juest | blast: read this! http://pastebin.com/cKBZzgLx |
| 04:31.50 | Juest | i just patched the bzflag project with the separate radar and panel opacity the attemp 2 and it's failing, i can't recover it |
| 04:32.08 | Juest | is spanish :( |
| 04:35.08 | Juest | Blast007!!! are u there? |
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| 04:42.29 | Juest | hey, what's this new ui for bzadmin? |
| 04:43.03 | Juest | i willl test bzfs |
| 04:46.11 | Juest | BLAST!!!!! |
| 04:46.15 | Juest | READ THIS! |
| 04:46.17 | Juest | http://zz.pastebin.com/DzDJDgPY |
| 04:47.43 | Juest | c'mon somebody help me! |
| 04:50.21 | Juest | i can't wait all night long -.- |
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| 05:01.27 | Constitution | Juest: please stop spamming this channel |
| 05:01.47 | Juest | ok, but I JUST NEED HELP I DON'T HAVE TIME! |
| 05:01.59 | Constitution | if people are available and able to respond, they will if they feel like it... you're not making any friends by constantly repeating questions |
| 05:02.06 | Juest | :( |
| 05:02.24 | Juest | ok, trying tomorrow |
| 05:02.29 | Constitution | you think everyone else has time to stop and help you whenever you want? |
| 05:02.42 | Juest | not alwas |
| 05:02.47 | Juest | always* |
| 05:02.57 | Juest | can u help constitution? |
| 05:03.04 | Constitution | good, then learn to be patient here... you will have much better results |
| 05:03.42 | Constitution | I don't speak spanish |
| 05:03.52 | Juest | yeah, but nobody's patient when it neeeds something quckly on the middle of the night |
| 05:04.10 | Juest | well use google translator help |
| 05:04.19 | Constitution | dude just forget it |
| 05:04.51 | Juest | i can't , just patched the bzflag and now i get bulid errors |
| 05:05.04 | Juest | and i want the original files back |
| 05:05.44 | Juest | using tortoiseSVN on windows |
| 05:05.59 | Juest | ideas? |
| 05:06.09 | Juest | constitution? |
| 05:07.35 | Juest | .... |
| 05:08.56 | Juest | ok, trying tomorrow bye |
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| 05:20.14 | jacko_h | Hi |
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| 12:38.05 | KTL | http://img.izismile.com/img/img4/20110211/640/daily_picdump_616_640_83.jpg <- the helpdesk at world of warcraft, maybe an idea for zz |
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| 12:53.55 | joevano | Dear son,/n |
| 12:54.05 | joevano | bah |
| 13:12.44 | blast007 | if Juest comes back, tell him the patch failed and he'll have to manually merge the change ;) |
| 13:13.02 | blast007 | s/if/when/ |
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| 15:40.18 | _zz_ | hi |
| 15:40.33 | _zz_ | i had troubles last night -.- |
| 15:40.48 | _zz_ | just now i seen the svn revert option |
| 15:41.15 | _zz_ | is the trunk updated? |
| 15:41.31 | _zz_ | or still at r21366? |
| 15:41.59 | Cobra_Fast | revert to HEAD |
| 15:42.08 | _zz_ | ? |
| 15:42.11 | _zz_ | how's that? |
| 15:42.25 | Cobra_Fast | HEAD = newest revision |
| 15:42.35 | KTL | notes |
| 15:42.39 | _zz_ | i just reverted files i patched that caused troubles |
| 15:42.48 | Cobra_Fast | ok |
| 15:44.43 | _zz_ | ok, i am updating |
| 15:44.43 | _zz_ | waits for TortoiseSVN update |
| 15:44.43 | _zz_ | has downloaded the whole trunk dir |
| 15:44.43 | _zz_ | had troubles when compiling bzflag project |
| 15:44.44 | _zz_ | fixed |
| 15:44.45 | _zz_ | goes to debug |
| 15:45.00 | _zz_ | blast told me, |
| 15:45.13 | _zz_ | better have debug files |
| 15:45.26 | blast007 | _zz_: the problem is that the patch didn't apply completely |
| 15:45.29 | _zz_ | files with debug info |
| 15:45.34 | _zz_ | ah yeah |
| 15:45.35 | blast007 | so you would have to manually merge |
| 15:45.41 | _zz_ | now i reverted |
| 15:46.04 | blast007 | the parts it compiled about when compiling was cuz it had injected both the old and new parts into the file to show you the changes |
| 15:46.17 | _zz_ | ok, |
| 15:46.25 | _zz_ | goes to debug |
| 15:46.25 | blast007 | so it wasn't a problem with out code |
| 15:46.27 | blast007 | our* |
| 15:46.34 | _zz_ | bye |
| 15:46.39 | blast007 | it was your patching that broke it |
| 15:46.48 | _zz_ | lol yes |
| 15:46.54 | _zz_ | byes |
| 15:46.57 | blast007 | bye |
| 15:47.07 | _zz_ | ok, from now on i won't patch |
| 15:47.38 | blast007 | no, you can patch |
| 15:47.40 | blast007 | just read what it says |
| 15:47.48 | blast007 | it would have said that at least one chunk failed |
| 15:47.58 | _zz_ | oh |
| 15:48.03 | blast007 | so you would have to go look at what failed to patch and do it yourself |
| 15:48.14 | _zz_ | go to see these pastebin i posted |
| 15:48.26 | blast007 | patches break when the code they try to patch changes |
| 15:48.35 | blast007 | and since our code has changed, that patch broke in at least one spot |
| 15:48.38 | blast007 | and yes, I read the pastebin |
| 15:48.41 | _zz_ | i already looked and finally reverted |
| 15:48.50 | _zz_ | ah |
| 15:48.50 | blast007 | that's how I knew you had a chunk that didn't patch |
| 15:49.02 | blast007 | those errors were because of that |
| 15:49.12 | _zz_ | that's the output on vc++9 |
| 15:49.16 | blast007 | if you had double clicked on any of them, it would have taken you to that point in the source code |
| 15:49.19 | blast007 | I know..... |
| 15:49.22 | _zz_ | oh |
| 15:49.25 | _zz_ | well |
| 15:49.39 | _zz_ | thk, going to compile bz |
| 15:49.41 | blast007 | and then you would have seen the conflict from the patch |
| 15:50.07 | blast007 | we don't really care if you're going to compile bzflag or not |
| 15:50.12 | blast007 | so no need to tell us |
| 15:50.17 | _zz_ | well i think i already saw it with TortoiseSVN way to patch |
| 15:50.22 | _zz_ | lol |
| 15:50.40 | _zz_ | i compile on debug u told me to use debug |
| 15:50.46 | blast007 | yeah |
| 15:50.53 | _zz_ | because of the frikin crash |
| 15:51.03 | blast007 | that way when it crashes you can get more than "Hey, it crashed" |
| 15:51.07 | _zz_ | lol |
| 15:51.29 | blast007 | you'll be able to get a stack trace to see where it was crashing |
| 15:51.29 | _zz_ | and the bzfs output, it cares? |
| 15:51.47 | blast007 | that bzfs output is just because the connection is dropping because the client crashes |
| 15:51.58 | blast007 | it's not a clean disconnect, so it shows that |
| 15:52.08 | _zz_ | ahh |
| 15:52.39 | _zz_ | why it freezes when connecting to localhost? |
| 15:53.03 | blast007 | I don't know |
| 15:53.08 | blast007 | pretty sure it was working for me |
| 15:53.13 | blast007 | but I haven't tried in a while |
| 15:53.42 | _zz_ | check if the iusses i having are happening any where |
| 15:54.22 | _zz_ | i must pastebin? |
| 15:58.50 | _zz_ | uh, what i must do now? |
| 15:59.03 | _zz_ | copying the data dir? |
| 15:59.30 | _zz_ | because i am getting a error that says it dosen't find fontsç |
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| 15:59.32 | blast007 | you'll want to adjust the settings on the BZFlag project (under the solution sidebar) so that the Target points to bzflag.exe in the root of the source |
| 15:59.43 | _zz_ | in the root ok, |
| 15:59.44 | blast007 | and then adjust the working directory to be the root of the source |
| 15:59.50 | blast007 | that way it can find the fonts |
| 16:00.15 | _zz_ | or copying data dir to the place where it tires is easier? |
| 16:00.16 | blast007 | then you can press that debug button that looks like this: |> |
| 16:00.23 | _zz_ | ye :P |
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| 16:00.31 | blast007 | no, changing two lines of text in the project settings is the best way |
| 16:00.40 | blast007 | since then it gets the right DLLs too |
| 16:00.50 | blast007 | (they get copied to the root of the source checkout) |
| 16:00.58 | _zz_ | welll |
| 16:01.03 | _zz_ | doing it |
| 16:03.04 | _zz_ | just the projects bzflag bzfs and bzadmin? |
| 16:05.21 | blast007 | yeah |
| 16:05.39 | blast007 | also not sure if you can debug multiple things at a time |
| 16:06.00 | _zz_ | hmmm now it fails to find libcurl |
| 16:06.14 | _zz_ | when launching from vc |
| 16:06.15 | blast007 | did you set the working path to be at the root? |
| 16:06.26 | _zz_ | where to do that? |
| 16:06.36 | blast007 | same spot you adjusted the target |
| 16:06.39 | _zz_ | i just did the project output |
| 16:07.01 | blast007 | I don't have VC in front of me, so I'm not sure of the exact spot |
| 16:07.29 | _zz_ | nothing |
| 16:07.46 | _zz_ | i don't see it |
| 16:07.56 | _zz_ | the working dir option |
| 16:08.58 | blast007 | http://www.jameshuntsman.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/BulletProjectProperties_thumb1.png |
| 16:09.11 | blast007 | you want "Command" to point to bzflag.exe in the root |
| 16:09.26 | blast007 | and you want "Working Directory" to point at the root |
| 16:09.35 | blast007 | and by root, I mean the folder where you checked out to |
| 16:09.53 | blast007 | the root contains the folders like src and data and so on |
| 16:10.22 | _zz_ | too bad internet at least i can chat |
| 16:10.46 | blast007 | you can't load a 380KB image file? |
| 16:10.55 | blast007 | yet you downloaded a 571MB SDK? |
| 16:11.30 | blast007 | right click on the bzflag project in the solution toolbox and go to properties |
| 16:11.41 | blast007 | then go to Configuration Properties > Debugging |
| 16:11.46 | blast007 | and then do what I said above |
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| 16:13.32 | _zz_ | back |
| 16:13.45 | _zz_ | yayaayyayay |
| 16:13.49 | _zz_ | there i get |
| 16:15.20 | _zz_ | got it |
| 16:15.28 | _zz_ | still fails |
| 16:15.46 | blast007 | do you see a libcurl.dll in the root of your checkout? |
| 16:15.59 | blast007 | or *any* .dll files? |
| 16:16.25 | _zz_ | libcurl is already there and now i get the dir fail |
| 16:17.00 | _zz_ | fonts can't find |
| 16:17.21 | _zz_ | ummmm |
| 16:17.51 | _zz_ | wait |
| 16:17.57 | _zz_ | 'bzflag.exe': se cargó 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\iglicd32.dll', El binario no se generó con la información de depuración. |
| 16:17.57 | _zz_ | 'bzflag.exe': se cargó 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\igldev32.dll', El binario no se generó con la información de depuración. |
| 16:18.10 | _zz_ | two dlls without debug info :( |
| 16:18.43 | _zz_ | idk...... |
| 16:20.38 | _zz_ | blast? |
| 16:20.56 | BulletCatcher | Be patient, _zz_. |
| 16:21.26 | _zz_ | blast, i pointed root but it dosen't find data |
| 16:22.31 | _zz_ | got it |
| 16:22.38 | _zz_ | had to use -directory |
| 16:23.18 | blast007 | then you were doing it wrong, or you used -directory before (and it's saved in your config) |
| 16:23.28 | _zz_ | ah |
| 16:23.36 | blast007 | the above warnings and just warnings |
| 16:23.38 | _zz_ | yeah, cfg |
| 16:23.44 | blast007 | it doesn't matter if they don't have debug info |
| 16:23.51 | _zz_ | i already have cfg :P |
| 16:23.58 | _zz_ | for 3.0 |
| 16:24.07 | _zz_ | ok, starting bzfs |
| 16:24.11 | _zz_ | but what copy? |
| 16:24.24 | _zz_ | i have to attach it too? |
| 16:24.35 | _zz_ | because bzflag is attached i think |
| 16:24.51 | _zz_ | or i have to attach it? |
| 16:25.16 | _zz_ | ok, hosting..... |
| 16:26.43 | _zz_ | here's |
| 16:27.02 | _zz_ | pastebining |
| 16:27.57 | _zz_ | here: |
| 16:27.58 | _zz_ | http://zz.pastebin.com/2iVhuR94 |
| 16:30.46 | _zz_ | it freezes because |
| 16:30.49 | _zz_ | El subproceso 'Subproceso Win32' (0xaf0) terminó con código 0 (0x0). |
| 16:31.19 | _zz_ | anybody understands spanish? |
| 16:32.09 | blast007 | sounds more like your computer is just being stupid :P |
| 16:32.13 | _zz_ | and when i finish the bzflag |
| 16:32.15 | _zz_ | El programa '[1520] bzflag.exe: Nativo' terminó con código 0 (0x0). |
| 16:32.29 | _zz_ | o.o lol |
| 16:32.46 | _zz_ | the first thing is when the nr starts |
| 16:32.53 | blast007 | shrugs |
| 16:32.59 | blast007 | it's worked for me and othere recently |
| 16:33.03 | blast007 | others* |
| 16:33.08 | blast007 | we were able to join a server |
| 16:33.10 | _zz_ | connecting to localhost? |
| 16:33.16 | blast007 | didn't try localhost |
| 16:33.19 | _zz_ | server's fine |
| 16:33.27 | _zz_ | the trouble is with localhost |
| 16:33.30 | _zz_ | and |
| 16:33.37 | _zz_ | the pastebin |
| 16:33.43 | _zz_ | is about the crash i said |
| 16:35.01 | blast007 | try joining my server - should be on the list |
| 16:35.15 | blast007 | the pastebin is worthless |
| 16:35.23 | _zz_ | that just works fine |
| 16:35.25 | blast007 | it's in spanish, for one, and two, it's nothing useful anyway |
| 16:35.28 | _zz_ | as far i known |
| 16:35.37 | _zz_ | yep too bad |
| 16:35.53 | blast007 | so, *maybe* there's an issue connecting to localhost |
| 16:35.56 | blast007 | I don't know |
| 16:36.06 | _zz_ | o.o |
| 16:37.07 | _zz_ | now my bzfs says this |
| 16:37.23 | _zz_ | Player connect time: 595.747383 |
| 16:37.23 | _zz_ | Player messages in: nf:1(102) sv:1(4) total:2(106) max msgs/bytes per second: 0/0 |
| 16:37.23 | _zz_ | Player messages out: fu:1(63) nf:1(4) of:1(4) og:1(4) sv:5(1024) total:9(4898) max msgs/bytes per second: 0/0 |
| 16:38.29 | _zz_ | to ur server is ok |
| 16:38.33 | _zz_ | blast? |
| 16:40.02 | _zz_ | now it's just fine |
| 16:41.03 | _zz_ | but why my server dosen't says global login approved and it haves an stricly global login? |
| 16:41.43 | blast007 | if your server isn't public, you won't get global auth |
| 16:42.02 | _zz_ | IS public |
| 16:42.21 | _zz_ | talking about my 2.0.16 bzfs |
| 16:42.57 | _zz_ | ideas? |
| 16:43.30 | _zz_ | blast? |
| 16:43.53 | blast007 | I only see your 2.99.x server on the list |
| 16:44.17 | _zz_ | ah ok, starting 2.0.16 server |
| 16:44.42 | _zz_ | there's |
| 16:45.00 | _zz_ | it's online |
| 16:45.03 | _zz_ | see? |
| 16:46.32 | _zz_ | ~bzflist |
| 16:46.39 | _zz_ | there xD |
| 16:46.43 | _zz_ | meh |
| 16:47.09 | blast007 | yes, so now global auth should work |
| 16:47.19 | _zz_ | it works |
| 16:47.25 | _zz_ | but is strictly |
| 16:47.37 | _zz_ | i ma fibercasa.dyndns.org |
| 16:47.41 | _zz_ | i am* |
| 16:47.56 | _zz_ | is strictly because |
| 16:48.05 | _zz_ | it must be appoved to get in server |
| 16:48.13 | _zz_ | otherwise it logs off |
| 16:48.34 | blast007 | you assigned spawn permissions to verified instead of everyone? |
| 16:48.36 | _zz_ | it dosen't work a bad token or not registered callsign |
| 16:48.46 | _zz_ | no, it's not that |
| 16:49.02 | _zz_ | unless aproved nobody can connect |
| 16:49.07 | _zz_ | only approved |
| 16:49.14 | blast007 | whatever that means |
| 16:49.18 | _zz_ | -.- |
| 16:49.29 | _zz_ | i tired, bad identi |
| 16:49.46 | _zz_ | bad ident or bad token it disconnects |
| 16:49.54 | _zz_ | even if observer |
| 16:49.56 | blast007 | good for it |
| 16:49.58 | _zz_ | why? |
| 16:50.26 | _zz_ | blast? |
| 16:50.33 | _zz_ | why it happens? |
| 16:50.41 | _zz_ | it not's group thing |
| 16:50.49 | _zz_ | why then? |
| 16:50.52 | blast007 | because bad auth's are supposed to disconnect |
| 16:51.01 | blast007 | if you have -requireIdentify at least |
| 16:51.10 | _zz_ | oh, let me check |
| 16:51.21 | blast007 | which is recommended to be left on |
| 16:51.37 | blast007 | why would you want someone playing with bad auth? |
| 16:51.42 | blast007 | then they could play as you |
| 16:51.44 | _zz_ | most servers have it as optional... |
| 16:51.51 | blast007 | most GOOD servers do not |
| 16:51.55 | blast007 | crappy servers might |
| 16:51.59 | blast007 | so go right head |
| 16:52.01 | blast007 | ahead* |
| 16:52.01 | _zz_ | so ? |
| 16:52.07 | _zz_ | even easy tank server |
| 16:52.13 | _zz_ | and bzflag.jp server |
| 16:52.14 | blast007 | like I said, crappy servers |
| 16:52.19 | blast007 | .jp isn't |
| 16:52.22 | blast007 | easy tank is |
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| 16:52.56 | _zz_ | well i can't find -require Identify |
| 16:53.06 | _zz_ | -requireIdentify* |
| 16:53.12 | blast007 | then I'm just going back to "your computer sucks" |
| 16:53.13 | _zz_ | is default -.- |
| 16:53.41 | blast007 | wait, it's not an option |
| 16:53.48 | blast007 | it's part of the groupdb stuff |
| 16:53.52 | _zz_ | oh |
| 16:53.52 | blast007 | it's a permission |
| 16:55.29 | _zz_ | loook pm |
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| 17:01.06 | Juest | HEY JEFF |
| 17:01.10 | Juest | sorry caps |
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| 17:03.06 | Juest | ummmm, |
| 17:04.49 | Juest | blast? |
| 17:06.08 | JeffM | not good at seeing the patterns are you? |
| 17:06.19 | Juest | what? |
| 17:06.43 | JeffM | exactly |
| 17:10.55 | Juest | what are u saying? jeff |
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| 17:19.41 | JeffM | says lots of things |
| 17:19.58 | Juest | c'mon |
| 17:20.19 | Juest | blast?, still attending me? |
| 17:24.56 | JeffM | attending? |
| 17:43.48 | Juest | wellll |
| 17:44.08 | Juest | i still need to confirm iusses with 2.99.x |
| 17:44.22 | Juest | blast? |
| 17:44.32 | Juest | jeff.... |
| 17:59.20 | JeffM | people have lives they arn't here to serve you |
| 17:59.35 | Juest | and? |
| 17:59.38 | Juest | w/e |
| 17:59.40 | Juest | cu |
| 17:59.57 | JeffM | yeah... exactly |
| 18:00.41 | JeffM | have you read all the info on building on the wiki and forums? |
| 18:00.49 | JeffM | and learned something about software development and C++? |
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| 18:26.10 | blast007 | JeffM: read the documentation. not going to hold your hand through everything. |
| 18:26.15 | blast007 | er |
| 18:26.19 | blast007 | Juest* :P |
| 18:26.24 | JeffM | hahah |
| 18:26.25 | Juest | xD |
| 18:26.30 | blast007 | silly tab key, do what I say! |
| 18:26.39 | JeffM | but blast007 I thought we were bffs! |
| 18:26.45 | blast007 | lol |
| 18:26.46 | Juest | hey, hmmm, i |
| 18:26.49 | Juest | lol |
| 18:27.04 | Juest | what doc i must read specifically? |
| 18:27.11 | blast007 | read it all |
| 18:27.14 | JeffM | I'll invite you to my birthday party |
| 18:27.16 | blast007 | and memorize it |
| 18:27.31 | Juest | ok it won't be easy |
| 18:27.40 | blast007 | Juest: you realize I'm joking right? |
| 18:27.42 | JeffM | nobody ever said it would be easy |
| 18:27.50 | blast007 | you don't have to memorize it all ;) |
| 18:27.50 | JeffM | development takes work |
| 18:27.56 | Juest | and i still need to confir the iusses i told you |
| 18:27.58 | JeffM | you should understand it |
| 18:28.00 | Juest | it not a joke |
| 18:28.06 | Juest | confirm* |
| 18:28.13 | Juest | i do |
| 18:28.17 | JeffM | doubtful |
| 18:28.26 | Juest | uh... |
| 18:29.01 | JeffM | is sad that it's going to rain on his new car :( |
| 18:29.13 | Juest | LOL |
| 18:29.18 | blast007 | I wish it would rain on my new car so it would wash the salt off :P |
| 18:29.20 | JeffM | it not a joke |
| 18:29.25 | JeffM | heh |
| 18:29.28 | Juest | wants to confirm the iusses he's having |
| 18:29.39 | Juest | lol no jk |
| 18:29.41 | JeffM | nobody cares about bzflag development |
| 18:29.46 | JeffM | that's the real joke |
| 18:29.52 | Juest | why? |
| 18:29.58 | JeffM | because they don't |
| 18:30.01 | blast007 | Juest: if I get bored enough this weekend, I might. But I'll probably be too buzy watching funny cat videos and killing zombies. |
| 18:30.12 | JeffM | zombies need killin |
| 18:30.14 | blast007 | busy* |
| 18:30.19 | JeffM | if he dosn't WHO WILL!!!!! |
| 18:30.22 | Juest | sweeet blast |
| 18:30.34 | JeffM | thinks that blast007 should check out Constitution's project |
| 18:30.36 | JeffM | it's pretty cool |
| 18:30.38 | blast007 | heck, I might do both of those as the same time! |
| 18:30.42 | Juest | i watching music videos at you tube and searching for bz doc |
| 18:30.46 | blast007 | yeah, I should |
| 18:30.58 | JeffM | we may have it building and running on windows |
| 18:31.06 | blast007 | sweeet |
| 18:31.08 | blast007 | what language is it? |
| 18:31.13 | JeffM | C++ |
| 18:31.25 | JeffM | I set up VC10 projects for it last week |
| 18:31.26 | Juest | reads docs that are at trunk |
| 18:31.33 | Juest | o.o? |
| 18:31.35 | blast007 | ok |
| 18:31.36 | JeffM | and he's been making it work after my code changes |
| 18:31.42 | Juest | just test with vc++9 jeff |
| 18:31.46 | JeffM | he used some stuff VC could nto do |
| 18:31.53 | blast007 | Juest: he's not talking about BZFlag |
| 18:31.59 | JeffM | I did use VC10 for it |
| 18:32.04 | JeffM | so that'll be interesting |
| 18:32.06 | Juest | oh, cya |
| 18:32.10 | JeffM | it should build in EE |
| 18:32.25 | Juest | ? |
| 18:32.28 | JeffM | if you have the dependencies, but I made a dependency package that you can unzip |
| 18:32.31 | blast007 | I could probably get 2010 pro pretty cheap though |
| 18:32.53 | blast007 | (employed at a school) |
| 18:32.58 | JeffM | ours here cost about 500 for a vlk |
| 18:33.04 | JeffM | ahh yeah you should be cheap/free |
| 18:43.00 | Juest | hey blast! |
| 18:43.06 | blast007 | hey Juest! |
| 18:43.11 | Juest | ur server wins |
| 18:43.13 | Juest | Most popular serverbzexcess.com:5154 with 19 players |
| 18:43.26 | blast007 | yeah, it does that a lot |
| 18:43.26 | Juest | lol |
| 18:43.30 | Juest | :) |
| 18:53.12 | Juest | hey look this holy server |
| 18:53.19 | Juest | 76.174.134.185:5154 |
| 18:53.22 | Juest | on bzflag |
| 18:53.35 | blast007 | what about it? |
| 18:53.44 | Juest | thousends of bots |
| 18:53.49 | Juest | i can't play |
| 18:53.53 | Juest | look |
| 18:54.09 | Juest | is trying to join as observer |
| 18:54.44 | blast007 | also, not thousands |
| 18:54.46 | blast007 | 100 |
| 18:55.10 | blast007 | you can't even half 500 players on a server (limit is roughly 200) |
| 18:55.46 | Juest | aw |
| 18:55.48 | Juest | lol |
| 18:55.50 | Juest | xD |
| 18:56.04 | Juest | but at least too many to freeze clients |
| 18:56.26 | Juest | it frezzes my client :( |
| 18:57.18 | Juest | ummm, maybe with bzadmin's better? |
| 18:57.39 | blast007 | bzadmin would still receive the same amount of data |
| 18:57.49 | blast007 | so if the issue is your connection, it will still suck |
| 18:57.55 | Juest | it frezzes too? |
| 18:58.06 | blast007 | with that number of players, there is a LOT of data being pushed out |
| 18:58.21 | Juest | and bzadmin crashes as soon i tap the arrow |
| 18:58.43 | blast007 | and since that individual is hosted off a home connection, they likely do not have suitable upload bandwidth for what they are doing |
| 18:58.52 | Juest | uh |
| 18:59.07 | Juest | and here bzadmin always crashes |
| 18:59.27 | Juest | there's a way to get version? |
| 18:59.35 | Juest | instead of joining |
| 18:59.57 | blast007 | why do you need the version? |
| 19:00.09 | Juest | so is better to know |
| 19:00.10 | Juest | xD |
| 19:00.21 | Juest | maybe windows hosting |
| 19:01.01 | blast007 | BZFlag server 2.0.16.20100416-DEVEL-darwin8.11.1-SDL |
| 19:01.05 | blast007 | so, OSX |
| 19:01.25 | Juest | told ya better bzadmin |
| 19:01.33 | Juest | it dosen't freezes |
| 19:01.36 | Juest | aw |
| 19:01.43 | blast007 | it lags bad though |
| 19:01.47 | Juest | is ok to run bfs on osx? |
| 19:01.49 | Juest | aw |
| 19:01.51 | blast007 | uh, yeah |
| 19:01.58 | blast007 | OSX runs bzfs just fine |
| 19:02.16 | blast007 | Windows is the sucky one for hosting bzfs |
| 19:02.26 | Juest | even win 7? |
| 19:02.37 | blast007 | doesn't matter which one |
| 19:02.54 | blast007 | it's partially an issue with how the game is coded |
| 19:02.58 | Juest | any osx or linux is fine torught? |
| 19:03.10 | blast007 | 2.99.x might work better being hosted on Windows |
| 19:03.43 | blast007 | linux, OSX, BSD, whatever |
| 19:03.48 | Juest | maybe, here i host better in bzfs 2.0.16 and i having iusses with bzfs 2.99.x |
| 19:03.49 | blast007 | they probably work just fine |
| 19:04.11 | Juest | i still need to confirm the following iusses: |
| 19:04.13 | blast007 | your issues are probably user error or misunderstanding |
| 19:04.34 | Juest | localhost connecting freezes cllient |
| 19:04.59 | Juest | and there the bzfs thing goes |
| 19:05.23 | Juest | player connects for first time after bzfs up crashes client |
| 19:05.28 | Juest | ideas? |
| 19:05.45 | blast007 | yeah, I have ideas |
| 19:05.55 | blast007 | but they all involve killing zombies with various weapons |
| 19:05.59 | Juest | what ones? |
| 19:06.01 | Juest | lol |
| 19:06.07 | Juest | so it's not bz |
| 19:06.18 | blast007 | nope |
| 19:06.21 | blast007 | it's a real game |
| 19:06.33 | blast007 | with properly designed Internet play |
| 19:06.40 | Juest | uh |
| 19:07.07 | blast007 | not a hacked together collection of code that "kinda" works on the Internet, but is really designed for a local area network ;) |
| 19:07.48 | Juest | welll, i just needing to confirm iusses |
| 19:07.55 | Juest | can someone do it? |
| 19:07.58 | blast007 | no |
| 19:08.01 | blast007 | nobody can do it |
| 19:08.17 | Juest | you can blast: you have windows |
| 19:08.43 | blast007 | how much will you pay me? |
| 19:09.01 | Juest | US$ 100 |
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| 19:48.04 | Juest | hey there wp! |
| 19:48.08 | WarPig | Anybody know who's map '100 bots' is? |
| 19:48.17 | Juest | idk |
| 19:48.18 | blast007 | nope |
| 19:48.18 | WarPig | Hi juest :) |
| 19:48.23 | Juest | but we know the ip |
| 19:48.27 | WarPig | nhiablast007 :) |
| 19:48.31 | WarPig | ~n |
| 19:48.34 | ibot | n is probably the disease bzflag players get when they play too much. There is no cure. |
| 19:48.38 | Juest | = Zz |
| 19:48.40 | blast007 | WarPig: it it at least running a new enough version that it doesn't report bots to the list? |
| 19:48.47 | WarPig | Yeah |
| 19:48.57 | WarPig | It's seriously broken though/ |
| 19:48.58 | blast007 | good |
| 19:49.04 | blast007 | ya think? ;) |
| 19:49.15 | blast007 | they're running a server with over 100 players on a home connection |
| 19:49.23 | blast007 | probably have 1mbps upstream |
| 19:49.30 | Juest | is too laggy |
| 19:49.35 | WarPig | There are like 4 players with scores over 3000, no one else can kill anything. |
| 19:49.37 | Juest | it freezes my client :( |
| 19:49.53 | Juest | -19xx team score :P |
| 19:49.57 | WarPig | Of course, they have the /report function disabled. |
| 19:50.02 | blast007 | WarPig: maybe the server owner is going for "quantity over quality" (hehehe) |
| 19:50.07 | WarPig | lol |
| 19:50.18 | Juest | is bots by client |
| 19:50.23 | Juest | too many nr |
| 19:50.35 | blast007 | Juest: yeah |
| 19:50.42 | Juest | i just seen robot as observer |
| 19:50.45 | blast007 | the server's connection can't handle sending that much data |
| 19:50.55 | Juest | and it leads to the robotxx |
| 19:51.04 | WarPig | They have one flag, an SW. _shockoutradius is set so it kills the whole map. |
| 19:51.08 | blast007 | and your connection might have problems receiving that much data if the server *could* send it out fast enough |
| 19:51.09 | Juest | at least i bzadmin is better for this |
| 19:51.28 | blast007 | Juest: bzadmin still receives all the same data that the full client does |
| 19:51.39 | WarPig | I got the SW, and fired over and over, no kills. |
| 19:51.45 | blast007 | it just doesn't have to draw all the tanks and the explosions (or process most of the data) |
| 19:51.53 | WarPig | No big loss, lame map idea anyway. |
| 19:51.57 | Juest | it has to be muuuch greater that worldsize to kill every one |
| 19:51.59 | Juest | ah yes |
| 19:52.06 | Juest | the drawing freezes |
| 19:52.21 | Juest | and stdout is ok thrught |
| 19:53.28 | Juest | well it sucks |
| 19:53.36 | Juest | and its osx server |
| 19:53.42 | WarPig | It gives new meaning to the term. |
| 19:53.49 | Juest | why? |
| 19:54.03 | Juest | what term? |
| 19:54.15 | WarPig | 01It gives new meaning to the term: 'sucks' |
| 19:54.26 | Juest | why? |
| 19:54.48 | WarPig | Never before had any map sucked so bad. This is teh new standard by which 'sucks' will be measured. |
| 19:54.52 | blast007 | eww, black text - can't read |
| 19:55.00 | Juest | ah lol |
| 19:55.20 | Juest | i can't read white xDDD |
| 19:55.25 | blast007 | WarPig: I had a server/map that wasn't much fun for the players, but I loved it |
| 19:55.31 | WarPig | Now. we'll have to say 'Your map sucks, but not as bad as 100 bots'. |
| 19:55.36 | blast007 | it auto-spawned people when they joined |
| 19:55.43 | blast007 | forced them into autopilot |
| 19:55.43 | Juest | o.o? |
| 19:55.57 | WarPig | blast007: eww |
| 19:55.58 | blast007 | told them that THEY were the rabbit (on an FFA map) |
| 19:56.06 | WarPig | haha |
| 19:56.12 | blast007 | and everyone spawned facing a corner, one corner per team |
| 19:56.13 | Juest | me noy, i can't play with this ice blient |
| 19:56.16 | blast007 | and they couldn't turn autopilot off |
| 19:56.32 | Juest | client* |
| 19:56.34 | WarPig | diabolical |
| 19:56.41 | blast007 | yeah |
| 19:56.43 | Juest | yep |
| 19:56.44 | Juest | :( |
| 19:56.51 | WarPig | I can see why it didn't make it to the all-time favorites list |
| 19:56.53 | blast007 | tried doing the rabbit thing with CTF, but it crashed everyone's client |
| 19:57.06 | blast007 | since the autopilot had a hard time finding the "rabbit" flag |
| 19:57.11 | Juest | lol |
| 19:57.26 | Juest | yep auto sucks |
| 19:57.27 | blast007 | rabbit flag, DUCK flag, RABBIT FLAG!! |
| 19:57.37 | Juest | at least is better than bots |
| 19:57.48 | blast007 | it's different |
| 19:57.59 | blast007 | solo bots have better aiming and navigation |
| 19:58.04 | blast007 | solo bots can jump |
| 19:58.20 | blast007 | also not sure if solo bots dodge bullets (autopilot does) |
| 19:58.23 | WarPig | The devs shold have a bots vs autopilot match. Looser gets removed from the code. |
| 19:58.26 | blast007 | or at least it jumps over them |
| 19:58.57 | Juest | but they can't jump, they are always on ground and they can't get flags and they are shooted very easly |
| 19:59.10 | blast007 | if you jump, solo bots will get you |
| 19:59.19 | Juest | really? |
| 19:59.20 | blast007 | they are good at shooting you as you fall |
| 19:59.23 | Juest | never seen that |
| 19:59.26 | Juest | nyeah |
| 19:59.49 | Juest | they are like zombies when playerrabbit is on buliding with oo |
| 20:00.11 | blast007 | Grabbin' puke! |
| 20:00.29 | Juest | pluks blast007 |
| 20:00.43 | blast007 | whatever that means |
| 20:00.56 | Juest | meh |
| 20:00.58 | WarPig | wonders if blast007 is a chicken. |
| 20:01.10 | blast007 | or a potatoe! |
| 20:01.13 | Juest | never seen plucking feathers? |
| 20:01.18 | Juest | lol |
| 20:01.24 | blast007 | or do you DIG those up? |
| 20:01.39 | Juest | really thinks that blast007 is a potato |
| 20:01.44 | Juest | xD |
| 20:01.48 | blast007 | no, I'm a cheese stealer |
| 20:01.55 | Juest | is with WarPing |
| 20:02.00 | Juest | then, |
| 20:02.21 | Juest | thinks now's blast007 is a cheese |
| 20:02.38 | Juest | is the cat |
| 20:02.48 | Juest | and blast007 the mice |
| 20:03.03 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o blast007] by ChanServ |
| 20:03.05 | blast007 | and now I'm the dog |
| 20:03.13 | *** mode/#bzflag [-o blast007] by blast007 |
| 20:03.16 | Juest | OMG |
| 20:03.30 | Juest | blast07 is back to being mice |
| 20:03.40 | blast007 | so, bzflag |
| 20:03.51 | Juest | ? |
| 20:05.16 | BulletCatcher | "Remeber BZFlag? It's a channel about BZFlag." (not quite Arlo Guthrie) |
| 20:05.31 | Juest | yeah :P |
| 20:05.47 | Juest | well back to bzflag |
| 20:06.01 | Juest | i still need to confirm 2.99.x iusses |
| 20:06.05 | *** join/#bzflag Wits_ (~Warinthes@35.153.119.70.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 20:06.56 | *** part/#bzflag WarPig (~j-mo@207.235.53.82) |
| 20:07.05 | Juest | meh |
| 20:07.15 | BulletCatcher | It seems to me that you already know that your client crashes when you connect to localhost. |
| 20:07.16 | BulletCatcher | What difference would confirmation make? |
| 20:07.43 | Juest | is to check that is just only me or other haves it too |
| 20:08.03 | BulletCatcher | Nobody else runs bzfs on Windows. |
| 20:08.07 | BulletCatcher | So it is just you. |
| 20:08.27 | Juest | no, the client freezes |
| 20:08.37 | Juest | and when connecting tol |
| 20:08.40 | Juest | to* |
| 20:08.59 | Juest | my own server via internet server not localhost |
| 20:09.30 | Juest | it crashes at first time of player attempt since bzfs start |
| 20:10.33 | BulletCatcher | What operating system does your internet server run? |
| 20:11.00 | Juest | lol is the same as localhost butjoining over internet |
| 20:12.33 | Juest | i just needing someone in windows to compile bzflag, 61 projects and in debug mode and run it to see if same error happens |
| 20:13.07 | BulletCatcher | Well, it doesn't look like anyone is going to do that. |
| 20:13.54 | Juest | why? |
| 20:14.00 | Juest | blast haves windows |
| 20:27.11 | Juest | hey |
| 20:27.17 | Juest | well quittinng |
| 20:57.40 | *** join/#bzflag jacko_h (~jackoh@ppp121-45-157-192.lns21.adl6.internode.on.net) |
| 20:58.18 | jacko_h | Hi |
| 21:00.35 | kierra | hi jacko |
| 21:01.12 | jacko_h | Bye kierra have a nice day |
| 21:10.34 | *** join/#bzflag Anxuiz (~Konversat@pool-98-111-75-246.sttlwa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 21:10.34 | *** join/#bzflag Anxuiz (~Konversat@unaffiliated/anxuiz) |
| 21:35.35 | *** join/#bzflag jacko_h (~jackoh@ppp121-45-157-192.lns21.adl6.internode.on.net) |
| 22:56.40 | blast007 | grrr, if jacko wants to talk to me, he should stick around for longer |
| 22:57.12 | blast007 | he either /msg's me when I'm sleeping or when I'm driving home :P |
| 22:58.50 | kierra | :) |
| 22:58.56 | kierra | i'll tell him that |
| 22:59.08 | blast007 | or he could email me |
| 22:59.20 | kierra | but its almost 6 am for him atm, i think |
| 22:59.28 | blast007 | I have an email listed on' /help contact' on my server |
| 22:59.33 | blast007 | and probably on my website too |
| 22:59.42 | kierra | ok, will pass it on when i see him |
| 22:59.54 | JeffM | bzbb PMs are pretty much like email too |
| 23:00.14 | kierra | he cant do bzbb pms, can he, blast |
| 23:00.18 | blast007 | JeffM: yeah, except his bzbb account is disabled, which is what he wants to talk about ;) |
| 23:00.29 | JeffM | heh sucks to be him then :) |
| 23:00.49 | JeffM | this is why bridges should not be burned |
| 23:00.50 | kierra | consequences of his behavior |
| 23:00.57 | JeffM | sometimes you need to use them again later |
| 23:01.25 | blast007 | yeah. he probably shoulda stopped at THREE stolen maps |
| 23:02.42 | JeffM | heh |
