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| 00:33.05 | _zz_ | hey tim |
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| 02:56.42 | Constitution | in c[++], if a variable of one size (say, a short int) is multiplied by a variable of another size (say, a long int), is the result guaranteed to be a variable of the larger capacity? |
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| 03:11.10 | _zz_ | ´hey, why i disconnect from my own server (it kicks me saying "Autokick: Player location was outside the playing area.") even if the world size is ok? |
| 03:11.42 | _zz_ | nhey |
| 03:11.43 | blast007 | 2.99.x? |
| 03:11.53 | _zz_ | no, 2.0.16 bzfs |
| 03:12.06 | blast007 | you probably just screwed something up then |
| 03:12.26 | _zz_ | and why client freezes when tring to connect to localhost (loopback) in 2.99.x? |
| 03:12.56 | _zz_ | no, i don't think so because recently i changed from ctf to ffa |
| 03:13.19 | blast007 | for your 2.0.x problem, I bet your bases are outside of the world boundaries |
| 03:13.26 | blast007 | and it's trying to spawn you on the bases |
| 03:13.35 | _zz_ | how's that? |
| 03:13.43 | blast007 | like I said, you screwed up |
| 03:13.46 | blast007 | fix it |
| 03:13.56 | _zz_ | it's a random world |
| 03:13.58 | blast007 | set your world boundaries to be correct |
| 03:14.01 | _zz_ | 4000 |
| 03:14.10 | _zz_ | ok tips? |
| 03:14.12 | blast007 | did you change it after the server was running? |
| 03:14.18 | blast007 | the world size, that is |
| 03:14.23 | _zz_ | i closed bzfs |
| 03:14.35 | blast007 | how did you set the world size? |
| 03:14.48 | _zz_ | ok, i just going to set worldSize 100000 |
| 03:14.53 | blast007 | no |
| 03:14.54 | blast007 | dude |
| 03:14.58 | blast007 | just answer my question |
| 03:15.07 | _zz_ | i have set it with bzfs.conf |
| 03:15.14 | blast007 | how EXACTLY did you do it |
| 03:17.32 | _zz_ | i am not finding the vaule in bzfs.conf |
| 03:18.30 | _zz_ | -worldsize 2000 |
| 03:18.38 | _zz_ | there's |
| 03:18.42 | _zz_ | and |
| 03:19.04 | _zz_ | blast? |
| 03:19.37 | _zz_ | i need to shutdown, answer me |
| 03:19.45 | _zz_ | fast |
| 03:19.59 | Bambino | -set _worldSize Number |
| 03:20.00 | Constitution | ... |
| 03:20.15 | Bambino | and read the documentation... |
| 03:20.24 | Bambino | and learn how a server works :) |
| 03:20.31 | _zz_ | that's the setting in bzfs server conf |
| 03:20.45 | blast007 | that's a valid setting |
| 03:20.49 | _zz_ | yeah |
| 03:20.58 | _zz_ | 2000 because it multiplies |
| 03:20.59 | Bambino | that's how variables should be properly set. /set in-game can mess stuff up |
| 03:21.03 | _zz_ | ah |
| 03:21.13 | _zz_ | plugins too? |
| 03:21.15 | blast007 | so, assuming you didn't set it anywhere else, and you didn't change _worldSize in game, it should be fine |
| 03:21.31 | blast007 | Bambino: he set it from his config via -worldsize instead of -set _worldSize |
| 03:21.35 | _zz_ | last time was fine |
| 03:22.04 | blast007 | _zz_: for your 2.99.x crash, are you trying it with bots, or without? |
| 03:22.07 | _zz_ | plugins |
| 03:22.14 | _zz_ | oh, with |
| 03:22.18 | blast007 | try without |
| 03:22.38 | blast007 | like I had said yesterday (I think), bot might not be working quite right |
| 03:22.41 | _zz_ | and then it happens to disconnect because send queue too large |
| 03:22.55 | blast007 | the send queue issue is because you are hosting a server on Windows |
| 03:22.58 | _zz_ | still using that version |
| 03:23.02 | _zz_ | oh |
| 03:23.04 | _zz_ | yep |
| 03:23.13 | blast007 | also, using that old version is stupid |
| 03:23.20 | blast007 | some of the issues may have been fixed already |
| 03:23.22 | _zz_ | my plugins at 2.0.16 bzfs |
| 03:23.31 | _zz_ | -loadplugin flagStay.dll |
| 03:23.31 | _zz_ | -loadplugin RogueGenocide.dll |
| 03:23.31 | _zz_ | -loadplugin shockwaveDeath.dll |
| 03:23.31 | _zz_ | -loadplugin playhistorytracker.dll |
| 03:23.32 | blast007 | so reporting issues on an old 2.99.x just wastes our time |
| 03:23.37 | _zz_ | that's what i had put |
| 03:23.40 | blast007 | ok |
| 03:23.48 | blast007 | none of those affect spawning |
| 03:24.21 | _zz_ | and vars.txt |
| 03:24.33 | _zz_ | sorry for don't use pastebin |
| 03:24.34 | _zz_ | set _noClimb 0 |
| 03:24.34 | _zz_ | set _tankSpeed 500 |
| 03:24.34 | _zz_ | set _shotSpeed 325 |
| 03:24.34 | _zz_ | set _shotRange 1000 |
| 03:24.34 | _zz_ | set _ReloadTime 5 |
| 03:24.35 | _zz_ | set _wingsJumpCount 1000 |
| 03:24.35 | _zz_ | set _skyColor pink |
| 03:24.36 | _zz_ | set _mirror cyan |
| 03:24.36 | _zz_ | set _shotsKeepVerticalVelocity 1 |
| 03:24.37 | _zz_ | set _wingsJumpVelocity 26 |
| 03:24.37 | _zz_ | set _jumpVelocity 34 |
| 03:24.38 | _zz_ | set _gravity -13.4 |
| 03:24.38 | _zz_ | set _explodeTime 1 |
| 03:24.39 | _zz_ | set _burrowDepth 2 |
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| 03:24.53 | _zz_ | i said |
| 03:24.57 | _zz_ | sorry |
| 03:25.00 | _zz_ | ok? |
| 03:25.03 | blast007 | no, not okay |
| 03:25.17 | _zz_ | :( |
| 03:25.29 | _zz_ | ok nextime using pastebin |
| 03:25.34 | _zz_ | what's url? |
| 03:25.34 | blast007 | just because you're lazy doesn't mean you can spam us with your crap |
| 03:25.39 | blast007 | google.com |
| 03:25.42 | _zz_ | uh |
| 03:25.50 | _zz_ | ok there's vars |
| 03:26.01 | _zz_ | my vars .txt on the flood |
| 03:26.05 | _zz_ | is complete |
| 03:26.11 | blast007 | none of them affect spawns |
| 03:26.16 | _zz_ | then? |
| 03:26.26 | blast007 | doesn't really matter |
| 03:26.36 | blast007 | you're hosting on Windows, so it's not worth my time to help you |
| 03:26.39 | blast007 | I have better things to do |
| 03:26.41 | blast007 | like sleep |
| 03:26.42 | _zz_ | uh, |
| 03:26.58 | _zz_ | ok, and if i use phoenix.dll? |
| 03:27.19 | blast007 | how about you stop adding *more* crap when you already have issues? |
| 03:27.26 | _zz_ | ok, cya |
| 03:27.33 | _zz_ | i have shut |
| 03:27.36 | blast007 | start over |
| 03:27.38 | blast007 | start basic |
| 03:27.47 | blast007 | add stuff slowly |
| 03:27.50 | blast007 | test |
| 03:27.53 | _zz_ | with bzfs |
| 03:27.54 | _zz_ | ? |
| 03:28.00 | blast007 | if it breaks, you'll know what you just added broke it |
| 03:28.00 | blast007 | yes |
| 03:28.00 | _zz_ | ok, cya |
| 03:28.10 | blast007 | basic config |
| 03:28.11 | _zz_ | see yas |
| 03:28.16 | blast007 | bye |
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| 03:33.12 | Constitution | someone should refer him to http://www.virtualbox.org/ and http://www.ubuntu.com/ :) |
| 03:33.38 | Bambino | and wiki documentation :) |
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| 10:48.47 | QuantumBeep | Is there a way to force the list server to use a specific domain instead of reverse DNS? |
| 10:55.41 | blast007 | QuantumBeep: -publicaddr ? |
| 10:55.47 | QuantumBeep | OK |
| 10:55.52 | QuantumBeep | I'll go rechek |
| 10:56.11 | QuantumBeep | I've got my pretty domain in there, but the listserver insists on displaying my mile-long reverse DNS instead |
| 10:56.32 | blast007 | it might not actually be on the list |
| 10:56.41 | blast007 | the game client does LAN detection of games too |
| 10:56.44 | QuantumBeep | Oh hey |
| 10:56.45 | QuantumBeep | never mind |
| 10:56.50 | QuantumBeep | it just took a long time to update |
| 10:56.51 | QuantumBeep | thanks! |
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| 16:01.27 | Juest | hi again |
| 16:01.57 | Juest | what program you guys recommend for video recordering? |
| 16:10.07 | blast007 | for recording games? |
| 16:10.10 | blast007 | and on what OS? |
| 16:10.13 | *** mode/#bzflag [-o blast007] by blast007 |
| 16:10.36 | blast007 | for recording games on Windows, I'd recommend buying a copy of Fraps |
| 16:10.55 | blast007 | try the free version though to see if it will work for your needs (and with your computer) |
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| 16:37.09 | Juest | ah, thanks, any freeweare soft for rec? |
| 16:38.38 | Juest | ummmm, and how's good is the in game recorder? |
| 16:39.48 | Juest | oh, someone wants to confirm that iusse i had? |
| 16:40.20 | trepan | the "in game" recorder only works on the server |
| 16:41.18 | Juest | that iusse where blast told me to start over and step-by-step error checking |
| 16:41.45 | Juest | trepan, i just saying how's good is that recorder |
| 16:41.48 | Juest | ???? |
| 16:41.51 | Juest | asking* |
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| 16:43.02 | Juest | i going to eat cya |
| 16:43.11 | Juest | (away) |
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| 16:49.53 | Juest | hello? |
| 16:49.57 | Juest | i am baxk |
| 16:50.01 | Juest | back* |
| 17:15.38 | Juest | hey |
| 17:17.42 | Cobra_Fast | Juest: nobody cares what your doing |
| 17:18.16 | Cobra_Fast | if people wanna talk here, they talk, no matter whos here or not |
| 17:27.44 | Juest | hey, got the kicking reason! |
| 17:28.22 | Juest | this says on server |
| 17:28.24 | Juest | z depth (0) is less than burrow depth (2 - 1) |
| 17:28.25 | Juest | Kicking Player Zz [0] Out of map bounds at position (-922.11,1957.72,0.00) |
| 17:28.25 | Juest | Player Zz [0] removed at 2011-02-17 14:26:53: Out of map bounds |
| 17:29.55 | Juest | yep, i just did set _burrowDepth 2 |
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| 17:46.19 | Juest | hello¿ |
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| 19:27.38 | blast007 | Juest: if you screw around with /set, of course stuff is gonna break |
| 19:27.56 | Juest | perfect, i just got fixed :) |
| 19:28.20 | blast007 | anyways, my point yesterday was that your configuration likely has *some* problem *somewhere* |
| 19:28.32 | Juest | yeah, was vars :P |
| 19:28.34 | blast007 | so my suggestion was to start from scratch, and add stuff slowly and test |
| 19:28.41 | blast007 | add an option or two and test it |
| 19:28.53 | Juest | is because i had set pos to burrowdepth |
| 19:28.59 | Juest | it must be - |
| 19:29.02 | blast007 | then if it breaks, you know it was that line or two that did it |
| 19:29.15 | blast007 | and I'm talking about in general |
| 19:29.43 | blast007 | if you just go crazy and add 30 lines to your config, then you'll be having fun trying to figure out which line broke it |
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| 20:02.22 | Juest | for the half-off screen status because coord is on |
| 20:02.28 | Juest | hey again |
| 20:02.40 | Juest | umm, where i can get vc++ 2008? |
| 20:02.51 | Cobra_Fast | from there: www.microsoft.com |
| 20:03.12 | Juest | because classic link goes to vc 2010 download |
| 20:03.36 | Cobra_Fast | what does google say where you could get it? |
| 20:03.47 | Juest | it leads to: http://www.microsoft.com/express/Windows/ |
| 20:03.50 | Juest | o.o? |
| 20:03.59 | Juest | hmm let's seeee |
| 20:04.23 | Cobra_Fast | what did the "Search Microsoft.com" box say? |
| 20:04.32 | Juest | ugh |
| 20:04.36 | Juest | wait pleas |
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| 20:04.58 | Cobra_Fast | messages in IRC dont expire, you can read them later, no need to wait for me |
| 20:05.13 | blast007 | Juest: read my reply on the forum |
| 20:05.14 | Juest | mircosoft nothing other sites do have |
| 20:05.22 | Juest | ok |
| 20:05.23 | blast007 | what? |
| 20:05.33 | Juest | saying to cobra |
| 20:05.37 | Juest | not u blast |
| 20:05.43 | blast007 | right, but it didn't make any sense |
| 20:05.48 | Cobra_Fast | he was trying the search box on the microsoft site |
| 20:05.51 | Juest | :( |
| 20:05.53 | Juest | lol |
| 20:06.06 | Juest | i tired google not ms box |
| 20:06.14 | blast007 | just read my post |
| 20:06.35 | Cobra_Fast | ya, probably do what blast says |
| 20:06.51 | blast007 | Juest: also, group creation is done when we get bored, so don't post useless posts in there asking when it will get done |
| 20:07.02 | blast007 | since that just makes us not want to make them |
| 20:08.40 | Juest | removed..... |
| 20:09.22 | Juest | i just posted for my groups, and removed the "and?" |
| 20:09.33 | blast007 | so, you find the download yet? |
| 20:10.02 | Juest | uh looking |
| 20:10.15 | Juest | got it lol |
| 20:10.16 | blast007 | should be that hard |
| 20:11.26 | Juest | aw, nextime tell the download link not home |
| 20:11.55 | blast007 | was the first result on google when searching for visual C++ 2008 express |
| 20:11.55 | blast007 | :P |
| 20:12.04 | Juest | o.o? |
| 20:12.24 | Juest | i have searched this : |
| 20:12.26 | Juest | visual c++ 2008 express edition |
| 20:12.32 | Juest | :P |
| 20:12.40 | blast007 | second result then |
| 20:12.45 | Juest | lol |
| 20:13.00 | blast007 | your google skills are not impressive ;) |
| 20:13.01 | Juest | is the third one :P |
| 20:13.04 | Juest | uh |
| 20:13.06 | blast007 | first one is an ad |
| 20:13.13 | Juest | ah :P |
| 20:13.21 | Juest | i have good g skills |
| 20:13.30 | Juest | http://www.google.com/search?q=site:nitrome.com+.swf&num=100&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=ivns&filter=0 |
| 20:13.41 | blast007 | apparently not, since you can't even differentiate between ads and results |
| 20:14.07 | Juest | i have hunted down every swf in the game site nitrome.com |
| 20:14.21 | blast007 | I hear they've got a form for that. |
| 20:14.28 | Juest | i can differeciate but a bit :S |
| 20:14.30 | blast007 | so still not impressive |
| 20:14.34 | Juest | ¿ |
| 20:14.49 | Juest | who got? |
| 20:14.53 | Juest | ^^^^ |
| 20:15.16 | blast007 | I mean this http://www.google.com/advanced_search |
| 20:15.31 | blast007 | even have dropdowns for the file type :P |
| 20:15.45 | blast007 | so all you had to do was choose flash and put in a domain |
| 20:16.11 | Cobra_Fast | using that single search box on the front site is simpler IMO |
| 20:16.28 | Juest | ah yep |
| 20:16.34 | blast007 | Cobra_Fast: that's why it's called "advanced" ;) |
| 20:16.45 | blast007 | but yeah, you can probably do all of that from the single box too |
| 20:16.50 | Juest | and do u guys find out that there are special modes? |
| 20:16.56 | Juest | it has a calc |
| 20:17.04 | blast007 | yeah, I use that all the time :P |
| 20:17.07 | Juest | and even fiance check |
| 20:17.10 | blast007 | time |
| 20:17.20 | Juest | even UPS tracking |
| 20:17.37 | Juest | the deliver service |
| 20:18.03 | blast007 | also, google this: the answer to life the universe and everything |
| 20:18.14 | Cobra_Fast | google even knows the "answer to life the universe and everything" |
| 20:18.20 | Cobra_Fast | same |
| 20:18.22 | Cobra_Fast | god |
| 20:18.23 | blast007 | Cobra_Fast: beat you |
| 20:18.30 | Cobra_Fast | :( |
| 20:18.35 | Juest | o.o? |
| 20:18.44 | blast007 | Juest: 42! |
| 20:18.51 | Juest | lol is 42 :P |
| 20:19.28 | Juest | 42 is the result given by the web search engines Wolfram Alpha, Google and Microsoft's Bing when the query "the answer to life the universe and everything" ... |
| 20:19.29 | Juest | In mathematics - In science - In technology - In astronomy |
| 20:19.50 | Juest | that says the 2nd result |
| 20:19.57 | blast007 | it's from a movie |
| 20:20.05 | blast007 | well.. a book first |
| 20:20.11 | Juest | hmmm, how's that? |
| 20:20.16 | blast007 | google it |
| 20:20.20 | Juest | which? |
| 20:20.22 | Juest | uhhhh |
| 20:20.32 | blast007 | the thing you just googled before to get 42 |
| 20:20.43 | Juest | ? |
| 20:20.49 | blast007 | in any case, how's your download of Visual C++ going? |
| 20:20.56 | Juest | ah, got |
| 20:21.12 | Juest | but because internet is terrible i will |
| 20:21.17 | Juest | must use fdm |
| 20:21.30 | Juest | because chrome stops and report as finished |
| 20:21.33 | blast007 | well, the first thing you get is just their tiny web installer |
| 20:21.43 | Juest | where's? |
| 20:21.46 | blast007 | then you run that and it downloads what it needs during the installer |
| 20:22.18 | blast007 | vcsetup.exe is just their tiny file that you run |
| 20:22.44 | blast007 | 2.6MB |
| 20:23.16 | blast007 | that will download a couple hundred MB of files during the install process |
| 20:23.19 | Juest | from there's 42!: |
| 20:23.22 | Juest | The number has received considerable attention in popular culture because of its appearance in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, as the "Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything". |
| 20:23.36 | Juest | ik |
| 20:23.38 | blast007 | and then you'll need this 571MB file: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=3021d52b-514e-41d3-ad02-438a3ba730ba |
| 20:23.40 | Juest | downloading |
| 20:23.49 | Juest | what's? |
| 20:23.54 | blast007 | click it |
| 20:23.58 | blast007 | you'll find out what it is |
| 20:24.17 | Juest | i downloading dxSDK Jun2010 :P |
| 20:24.24 | blast007 | the game uses DirectX for some things (like input) so it needs the SDK |
| 20:24.26 | Juest | at least vc9 is supported :) |
| 20:24.33 | Juest | yeah |
| 20:24.37 | Cobra_Fast | cant opengl do input too? |
| 20:24.51 | blast007 | no, OpenGL is just graphics |
| 20:25.09 | Juest | i need this too? Windows Platform SDK (This is not required for Visual C++ 2008) |
| 20:25.10 | blast007 | it's like Direct3D |
| 20:25.16 | Juest | because ee? |
| 20:25.18 | blast007 | Juest: read |
| 20:25.27 | Juest | o.o? |
| 20:25.33 | blast007 | for 2005 EE it was needed |
| 20:25.38 | Cobra_Fast | "Windows Platform SDK (This is not required for Visual C++ 2008)" |
| 20:25.40 | blast007 | I think 2008 EE includes it, or some version of it |
| 20:25.49 | Juest | oh |
| 20:26.26 | Juest | does sql requiered? |
| 20:26.36 | Cobra_Fast | no |
| 20:26.37 | blast007 | what does the walkthrough way? |
| 20:26.44 | Juest | ah :) |
| 20:26.52 | Juest | ? |
| 20:27.06 | blast007 | heck, there's a README.Win32 file you should be reading too :P |
| 20:27.21 | Juest | lol |
| 20:27.23 | Juest | i |
| 20:27.38 | Juest | how i can upload fixies then? |
| 20:27.50 | Juest | i use tortoise SVN |
| 20:28.01 | blast007 | you'll tell Tortoise SVN to make a patch |
| 20:28.03 | Cobra_Fast | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=3248&atid=303248 -> "Add new" |
| 20:28.05 | Juest | the upload requires user and pw.... |
| 20:28.11 | blast007 | you can't commit |
| 20:28.15 | blast007 | you have to submit a patch |
| 20:28.24 | blast007 | and then we can commit it if we so choose |
| 20:28.36 | Juest | ah thanks cobra |
| 20:28.48 | Juest | only devs can commit? |
| 20:28.51 | Cobra_Fast | correct |
| 20:29.11 | Juest | and comit of files? |
| 20:29.30 | Juest | like bugs and else |
| 20:29.49 | Cobra_Fast | non-devs are supposed to use that tracker there |
| 20:29.56 | Juest | ah |
| 20:30.03 | Cobra_Fast | there is another tracker list for bugs |
| 20:30.07 | Juest | for everything? |
| 20:30.20 | Juest | tracker tracker? |
| 20:30.38 | Cobra_Fast | move your mouse over "Tracker" on that site (top bar) |
| 20:30.42 | Juest | ummmmm i have must registered at sourceforge? |
| 20:30.47 | Juest | ye |
| 20:30.49 | Juest | &? |
| 20:30.54 | blast007 | yes |
| 20:31.08 | blast007 | also read DEVINFO |
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| 20:31.51 | blast007 | that file will tell you about how copyright is handled, and also give you some info about our source (areas, formatting, etc) |
| 20:32.03 | Juest | ah thanks |
| 20:35.51 | Juest | for zlib, what i must dload? |
| 20:36.00 | Juest | version 1.2.3 |
| 20:36.06 | Juest | but which file? |
| 20:36.51 | Juest | bin exe src (zip exe) lib or doc |
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| 20:44.26 | JeffM | trunk should not need any external libs |
| 20:44.38 | JeffM | just platform SDK and directx |
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| 20:44.45 | Juest | it needs always |
| 20:44.55 | Juest | because the ouput exe |
| 20:44.58 | JeffM | I wrote it, I know what it needs |
| 20:45.06 | Juest | bzadmin bzflag and bzfs |
| 20:45.14 | Juest | it needs pdcurses? |
| 20:45.23 | Juest | and glew? |
| 20:45.28 | Juest | zlib? |
| 20:45.36 | JeffM | yeah and those are part of our extras |
| 20:45.38 | JeffM | we build them |
| 20:45.59 | Juest | that's |
| 20:46.06 | JeffM | what target are you doing? debug or debug_distrobution |
| 20:46.22 | Juest | i need the extras requied to run |
| 20:46.29 | Juest | umm, i will do release |
| 20:46.34 | Juest | that's why |
| 20:46.38 | JeffM | release or release distrobution |
| 20:46.49 | Juest | just release |
| 20:46.50 | JeffM | the dlls should be copied to the root of the source folder |
| 20:47.01 | Juest | yeah i know that |
| 20:47.03 | JeffM | you do not have to download anything |
| 20:47.14 | JeffM | the build also copies the bzflag exe to that location |
| 20:47.17 | JeffM | it runs from there |
| 20:47.19 | Juest | now is part of this? |
| 20:47.30 | JeffM | I designed the build system so that you would not have to download anything else |
| 20:48.02 | blast007 | also, if you intend to fix issues, you should use Debug, not Release |
| 20:48.10 | Juest | ummm, do i need those dlls to run bzflag and bzfs and bzadmin? |
| 20:48.11 | JeffM | and you need to learn C++ |
| 20:48.15 | Juest | the exe output |
| 20:48.26 | JeffM | yes the exe needs the dlls that are build as well |
| 20:48.27 | blast007 | the DLLs get copied to the root of the source |
| 20:48.33 | JeffM | they have to go together |
| 20:48.45 | Juest | now it goes thogether? |
| 20:49.02 | blast007 | if you intend to distribute to other people, do Release (Release Distribution, ideally, with the necessary extras) |
| 20:49.04 | Juest | because on my compiling times i needed the dlls |
| 20:49.07 | JeffM | you do not understand enough about computer programs to do anything useful for testing |
| 20:49.23 | JeffM | I would recomend learning more about bassic computer science first |
| 20:49.23 | blast007 | if you want to fix stuff, build Debug (debug builds need an installed copy of Visual C++ to run) |
| 20:49.50 | Juest | i just test but never for uselful things |
| 20:50.00 | JeffM | then it is a waste of our time |
| 20:50.05 | JeffM | as always with you |
| 20:50.12 | JeffM | learn then do |
| 20:50.19 | JeffM | you can not take a shortcut |
| 20:50.30 | Juest | ok, and for debug i had got exceptions |
| 20:50.38 | Juest | ok |
| 20:50.53 | Juest | why bzadmin always crashes here? |
| 20:51.01 | JeffM | probably many reasons |
| 20:51.02 | blast007 | because it sucks |
| 20:51.10 | JeffM | none of us can read your mind or computer and know why |
| 20:51.12 | JeffM | it is dev code |
| 20:51.13 | blast007 | the trunk bzadmin specifically is quite broken |
| 20:51.31 | Juest | while using arrows it crash at first touch |
| 20:51.35 | blast007 | not sure I've had it crash, but I've had it not really do anything useful |
| 20:51.36 | Juest | any bzadmin |
| 20:51.45 | blast007 | what version? |
| 20:51.50 | blast007 | 2.0.16? |
| 20:51.58 | Juest | 2.0.16 and trunk |
| 20:52.08 | Juest | well for trunk let me test |
| 20:52.21 | blast007 | I was thinking that the 2.0.16 one was crashy |
| 20:52.34 | blast007 | I probably didn't try chosing a name when I last tried it |
| 20:52.36 | Juest | and look my post about the bzadmin execptions |
| 20:52.43 | blast007 | I will later |
| 20:52.44 | blast007 | work to do |
| 20:52.55 | Juest | is first post on second page |
| 20:53.04 | Juest | on the compiling topic |
| 20:57.22 | Juest | jeff, now curl and those libs aren't required? |
| 21:01.56 | Juest | ..... |
| 21:04.21 | JeffM | again you don't understand enough about computers to understand my answer |
| 21:04.42 | Juest | welll, just answer |
| 21:04.59 | Juest | try to answer i another way |
| 21:06.42 | JeffM | that's not my burden |
| 21:06.42 | Juest | jeff..... |
| 21:06.49 | JeffM | it is yours doing development |
| 21:06.54 | Juest | burden? |
| 21:06.55 | JeffM | the dlls are needed, but we build them |
| 21:06.57 | JeffM | yes |
| 21:07.03 | JeffM | responsibility |
| 21:07.46 | Juest | ok, i still neeed the ddls or they are already ready to compile with the whole trunk? |
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| 21:18.54 | jacko_h | Hi |
| 21:19.03 | Juest | hey |
| 21:19.38 | Juest | do need help with anything? |
| 21:20.37 | jacko_h | Nah just saying hi cuz I need to talk to blast007 |
| 21:20.59 | Juest | he's away and busy |
| 21:21.30 | kierra | he's at work still, most likely |
| 21:21.45 | Juest | yep |
| 21:22.39 | jacko_h | K who r u anyway? |
| 21:23.28 | jacko_h | Lol I ment to say ok not k |
| 21:23.49 | jacko_h | To Juest |
| 21:56.28 | Juest | lol |
| 22:04.32 | Juest | errrr, i am still downloading |
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| 22:09.17 | Juest | who is this? |
| 22:09.26 | guest2501 | i am looking for a "brad" |
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| 22:09.28 | kierra | an alias person |
| 22:09.34 | kierra | pm guest |
| 22:09.44 | guest2501 | is here around ? |
| 22:10.09 | Juest | yes he's here |
| 22:10.16 | Juest | check the pepole list |
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| 22:26.00 | kierra | gente |
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| 22:31.06 | sikandia | hi?\ |
| 22:31.13 | Juest | hi |
| 22:31.19 | Juest | qe pasa kierra? |
| 22:31.29 | kierra | nada en particular |
| 22:31.32 | sikandia | nope |
| 22:31.35 | kierra | hi |
| 22:31.35 | Juest | y? |
| 22:31.43 | sikandia | no comprendo |
| 22:31.54 | sikandia | gtg |
| 22:31.54 | Juest | o.o? |
| 22:32.00 | Juest | chau |
| 22:32.03 | sikandia | bye |
| 22:32.06 | kierra | JeffM: its still alive ;) |
| 22:32.14 | sikandia | ok |
| 22:32.15 | Juest | ?????? |
| 22:32.16 | sikandia | yes |
| 22:32.20 | sikandia | ???!!! |
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| 22:39.13 | sikandia | hello |
| 22:39.17 | sikandia | ?? |
| 22:39.21 | Juest | hi again |
| 22:39.34 | sikandia | oh ok |
| 22:39.38 | sikandia | hi :P |
| 22:39.39 | Juest | :P |
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| 22:40.00 | Juest | :) |
| 22:40.13 | sikandia | i would play the game but it dose not work :(( |
| 22:40.28 | Juest | how's that? |
| 22:40.37 | Juest | try to reinstall it |
| 22:40.46 | sikandia | ... |
| 22:40.46 | sikandia | well |
| 22:40.48 | sikandia | no its not that |
| 22:40.55 | Juest | just try |
| 22:41.01 | Juest | then? |
| 22:41.07 | Juest | what's the ploblem? |
| 22:41.14 | sikandia | i think its my virshon of lunix |
| 22:41.22 | Juest | uh? |
| 22:41.28 | sikandia | just a bad virshon :(] |
| 22:41.35 | Juest | version? |
| 22:41.55 | sikandia | yes that :P |
| 22:42.02 | Juest | and? |
| 22:42.11 | Juest | what's ur system version' |
| 22:42.14 | Juest | ? |
| 22:42.17 | sikandia | im not a grate spleller |
| 22:42.22 | Juest | distruibution? |
| 22:42.34 | sikandia | huh... ???\ |
| 22:42.37 | Juest | habla español entonce |
| 22:42.48 | sikandia | ????? |
| 22:42.50 | Juest | tu distribucion de lunix |
| 22:43.02 | Juest | linux* |
| 22:43.48 | sikandia | no speek what ever your speeking :P |
| 22:43.58 | Juest | wtf? |
| 22:44.09 | Juest | speak english or spanish? |
| 22:44.16 | Juest | or what language? |
| 22:44.21 | sikandia | 1rst one |
| 22:44.35 | Juest | so spell well |
| 22:44.37 | Juest | ok? |
| 22:44.44 | Juest | we don't understand |
| 22:45.15 | sikandia | you mean "i"?? |
| 22:45.26 | Juest | lol |
| 22:45.35 | Juest | whatever |
| 22:45.41 | sikandia | yes |
| 22:45.42 | sikandia | :P |
| 22:45.57 | Juest | then? |
| 22:46.03 | sikandia | uh |
| 22:46.17 | Juest | what's the plobem with your linux? |
| 22:46.18 | sikandia | then what?? |
| 22:46.23 | Juest | problem* |
| 22:46.29 | sikandia | ohhh |
| 22:46.32 | Juest | ummmmmm |
| 22:46.41 | sikandia | nothing |
| 22:46.54 | sikandia | just the rong kind |
| 22:47.04 | Juest | and what's the ploblem with the game itself? |
| 22:47.11 | Juest | what's rong? |
| 22:47.41 | sikandia | no idea :( |
| 22:47.51 | Juest | then? |
| 22:47.54 | Juest | ufff |
| 22:48.01 | Juest | u are wasting time..... |
| 22:48.08 | sikandia | sory |
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| 22:48.15 | Juest | y? |
| 22:48.41 | sikandia | you dont havet to lisen to me if you dont want |
| 22:48.51 | Juest | ah xD |
| 22:49.02 | sikandia | im just bord |
| 22:49.13 | Juest | the problem is i have mIRC notifications on |
| 22:49.15 | Juest | xD |
| 22:49.18 | Juest | me too |
| 22:49.24 | Juest | have trunk? |
| 22:49.24 | sikandia | oh |
| 22:49.30 | sikandia | oh |
| 22:49.34 | sikandia | ou |
| 22:49.36 | sikandia | uh |
| 22:49.37 | Juest | ..... |
| 22:49.37 | sikandia | no |
| 22:49.45 | Juest | don't spam |
| 22:49.53 | sikandia | huh? |
| 22:50.00 | Juest | bbah |
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| 22:55.10 | Juest | hey fi |
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| 22:58.09 | Fiona | Hi? |
| 22:59.14 | Fiona | What is this? |
| 23:00.30 | blast007 | Fiona: do you need some help with BZFlag? |
| 23:01.09 | Fiona | no...I am just wondering what this is |
| 23:01.53 | blast007 | this is an IRC channel for BZFlag |
| 23:02.10 | blast007 | the support and development channel, specifically |
| 23:02.22 | Juest | lol |
| 23:02.52 | Fiona | oh, ok..my brother was on here and I was curious what he was doing |
| 23:03.02 | Juest | aw |
| 23:03.11 | Fiona | aw? |
| 23:03.16 | blast007 | he was trying to get support for the game |
| 23:03.16 | Juest | lol |
| 23:03.18 | Juest | :P |
| 23:03.26 | blast007 | "< sikandia> i would play the game but it dose not work :((" |
| 23:03.37 | blast007 | Juest: you don't have to respond to everything |
| 23:04.06 | Fiona | I think because we need a different version of Linux or something |
| 23:04.16 | Juest | fiona: i was trying to help him but failed |
| 23:04.25 | Juest | :( |
| 23:04.27 | Juest | byes |
| 23:04.33 | Fiona | because of his spelling? |
| 23:04.37 | Juest | yeah |
| 23:04.50 | Juest | couldn't understand well |
| 23:05.01 | Fiona | not many can |
| 23:05.13 | Fiona | :P |
| 23:05.18 | Juest | ok byes |
| 23:05.20 | blast007 | Fiona: you or he would have to elaborate on that |
| 23:05.21 | Fiona | I think I will go |
| 23:05.32 | blast007 | we can't help with such little information |
| 23:05.39 | Fiona | oh |
| 23:05.44 | Juest | is going to be busy with vc++ :P |
| 23:06.06 | blast007 | is it an install problem? does the game not run? what linux distribution/version? what game version? etc etc |
| 23:06.11 | Juest | right, blast |
| 23:06.20 | Juest | yep i was tiring to ask that |
| 23:06.22 | Juest | byes |
| 23:06.32 | Juest | trying* |
| 23:06.50 | Fiona | about 1-2 minutes after opening the game, it or the computer crashes |
| 23:07.01 | blast007 | probably a video driver issue |
| 23:07.09 | blast007 | a program should not be able to crash the entire computer |
| 23:07.52 | Fiona | ok, well, I will go then..I was just curious |
| 23:07.59 | Juest | can u get the terminal or else at the moment of the crash? |
| 23:08.18 | Fiona | or else? |
| 23:08.27 | blast007 | you could try pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1 to switch to a terminal when it happens |
| 23:08.41 | blast007 | or you might have to use SSH |
| 23:08.58 | Juest | you can't do anything? |
| 23:09.18 | blast007 | not sure if you'd be able to do any key combos if the game is locked up, for instance (because the game might capture any input) |
| 23:09.31 | blast007 | I don't really play on linux, so I'm not sure of that exactly :) |
| 23:09.32 | Fiona | no, the screen turns all different colors, and the only option is to reboot |
| 23:09.44 | Juest | it happend to me |
| 23:09.48 | blast007 | any idea what kind of video chipset/card in there? |
| 23:09.52 | Juest | is whole system freeze |
| 23:10.22 | Fiona | ....not really, dad owas the one that made it |
| 23:10.46 | blast007 | could run this to find out: lspci | grep VGA |
| 23:10.48 | Juest | i coludn't do anything than restart when the screen thigy happens |
| 23:10.49 | Fiona | is there a way I can check? |
| 23:11.02 | Fiona | yes, thats the usual case |
| 23:11.16 | Fiona | or the game just disapears |
| 23:11.53 | Juest | try this, kill the xs |
| 23:12.03 | Juest | nkill the X process |
| 23:12.23 | Juest | and run X& fiona |
| 23:12.27 | blast007 | Fiona: did that command show anything? |
| 23:12.33 | blast007 | Juest: that's not really helpful |
| 23:12.39 | Juest | why? |
| 23:12.43 | blast007 | Juest: since 'X' isn't the command |
| 23:12.49 | Fiona | I did not see a command |
| 23:12.58 | blast007 | Fiona: lspci | grep VGA |
| 23:13.03 | blast007 | (that's an L at the start) |
| 23:13.13 | Juest | why blast? |
| 23:13.40 | Juest | blast: the X works too |
| 23:13.59 | blast007 | Juest: maybe on whatever distro you run |
| 23:14.28 | Juest | and is better that instead of running the whole enviorment |
| 23:14.44 | Juest | yep, maybe is better to know the distro |
| 23:14.45 | blast007 | Juest: also, if you have linux, why have you been trying to host bzfs on Windows? |
| 23:15.16 | blast007 | Juest: what distro do you run? |
| 23:15.24 | Juest | blast: i don't have linux, Just experience with linux |
| 23:15.31 | blast007 | Fiona: did that command return anything? |
| 23:16.16 | Fiona | did you want me to type is somewhere? because I really don't know what you are talking about...:( |
| 23:16.21 | blast007 | Juest: apparently not very much, since you can actually hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to *restart* Xorg, assuming that key combo isn't disabled |
| 23:16.30 | blast007 | Fiona: yeah, in a terminal |
| 23:16.41 | blast007 | in a terminal, type: lspci | grep VGA |
| 23:16.42 | Juest | blast: go pm |
| 23:16.45 | blast007 | or copy and paste it |
| 23:16.59 | Fiona | in the problem computer? |
| 23:17.09 | blast007 | yup |
| 23:17.18 | blast007 | it will tell what kind of video card is installed |
| 23:18.02 | Fiona | ok, I will try |
| 23:20.31 | Fiona | uh...when I went to try just now, my bro said that he reinstalled BZflag and that worked. Kind of an embarrassing/simple solution. |
| 23:20.38 | blast007 | hehe, okay |
| 23:20.49 | Fiona | so thanks :D |
| 23:20.54 | blast007 | have fun ;) |
| 23:21.00 | Juest | ah, i told him to reinstall |
| 23:21.03 | Fiona | we will :) |
| 23:21.04 | Juest | as first choice |
| 23:21.25 | Juest | then it went way complicated |
| 23:21.52 | Fiona | ok, well, cya |
| 23:21.56 | blast007 | cya |
| 23:22.18 | Fiona | oh and blast? do you ever play Bzflag? |
| 23:22.28 | blast007 | I play sometimes |
| 23:22.37 | blast007 | I observe more than I play though |
| 23:22.49 | Fiona | oh. ok bye. :) |
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| 23:31.36 | delusional | wiki needs a cache page... creating caches and checking md5 |
| 23:34.47 | Juest | is restarting computer! |
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| 23:45.49 | Juest | hi again |
| 23:46.05 | Juest | what's trunk url? |
| 23:46.21 | Juest | and last release of 2.0.16? |
| 23:46.26 | Juest | the svn |
| 23:46.35 | Juest | i need to get it |
| 23:48.34 | Constitution | ~bzsvn |
| 23:48.34 | ibot | methinks bzsvn is http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN and svn co https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/bzflag bzflag |
| 23:48.54 | Constitution | and see /topic |
| 23:49.00 | Juest | ah |
| 23:54.22 | blast007 | the last release of 2.0.16 is 2.0.16 :P it itself is a release. |
| 23:54.36 | Juest | lol |
| 23:54.44 | blast007 | if instead you mean "where is the latest code compatible with 2.0.x", then you want to look at the v2_0branch branch |
| 23:55.22 | Juest | the v2_0branch is 2.0.16? |
| 23:55.30 | blast007 | no |
| 23:55.33 | blast007 | 2.0.17 |
| 23:55.48 | blast007 | and if 2.0.18 were released, it would be 2.0.19 then |
| 23:55.57 | Juest | why? |
| 23:56.21 | blast007 | odds are development, even are releases |
| 23:56.44 | Juest | ok, where's 2.0.16 then? |
| 23:56.51 | blast007 | you don't wnat 2.0.16 |
| 23:56.57 | Juest | not the real one, source |
| 23:56.57 | blast007 | you want v2_0branch |
| 23:58.13 | blast007 | v2_0branch also doesn't build as easily as trunk |
| 23:58.15 | Juest | does the sdk haves a var? |
| 23:58.20 | blast007 | we don't include all of the necessary libs |
| 23:58.22 | blast007 | var? |
| 23:58.24 | Juest | ah |
| 23:58.30 | Juest | the $ |
| 23:58.34 | Juest | for vc++ |
| 23:58.42 | blast007 | I have no idea what you are talking about |
| 23:58.47 | blast007 | environment variables? |
| 23:58.49 | Juest | vc dirs |
| 23:59.06 | blast007 | it doesn't unless you create environment variables |
| 23:59.10 | blast007 | but just use the full path |