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01:11.20iboti guess bz20svn is http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN and svn co https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag
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04:47.12CIA-86BZFlag: 03Yrogirg 07http://my.bzflag.org * r7134 10/w/Server_Variables:
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08:34.16a_meteoritecheater, "Poziom", 213.76.154.11 , lw-213-76-154-11.lannet.pl
08:34.37a_meteoritehigher velocity, turn speed, etc
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09:14.33a_meteoriteer, wrong channel
09:14.50a_meteoritemeant that for #bzfx >_>
09:27.17Manuhappens :)
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14:58.43honeytankmaybe somebody here knows bzfs and ssh?
14:58.51honeytankor some of the "big hosters"?
15:04.51BulletCatcherGo ahead and ask your question, honeytank.
15:05.32honeytankpfft
15:05.34honeytankok
15:06.52honeytankI have SSH access to moooo.org. And I'm running servers there, but actually i wanna run multiple, which stay if i shut my pc. I tried &, but that workds only with one. Now i heard i could use a pidfile and the screen command, but i don't get how to use these two, who can help?
15:08.24BulletCatcherI don't use screen, but I do run multiple bzfs servers via ssh.
15:08.59BulletCatcherThe first thing to do is to create a directory for each server to keep their files separate.
15:09.15honeytankhow to create directories?
15:09.19honeytank:P
15:09.28BulletCatcherWith the "mkdir" command.
15:09.36honeytankmkdir server1?
15:09.42BulletCatcherYes.
15:09.44honeytankok
15:09.50honeytankand then scp the files there?
15:10.31BulletCatcherIt sounds like you already have one server running.  I would rearrange that one to be in a new subdirectory.
15:10.56BulletCatcherAnd then worry about other ones.
15:11.02honeytankhow to move the files?
15:11.48Manuhoneytank: http://polishlinux.org/console/file-management-in-linux/
15:11.55BulletCatcherThe "mv" command does that.
15:11.56BulletCatcherFor example, "mkdir server1" followed by "mv map.bzw server1".
15:12.04honeytankah
15:12.34Manuhoneytank: you'll find all the common commands related to files in the link I gave you
15:12.46BulletCatcherThanks, Manu.
15:12.52ManuBulletCatcher: :)
15:15.02honeytankdone, the first server is moved
15:15.05honeytankwhat now?
15:15.36BulletCatcherStop and restart that server to be sure that it works.
15:15.45honeytanki dont have it up atm...
15:15.59BulletCatcherThen just start it for testing.
15:16.00honeytankwell ill try :)
15:16.09honeytankjust bzfs -conf conf?
15:16.18honeytankill try ;)
15:16.47BulletCatcherYes.  Try it.  This is how you learn how to do it.
15:17.05honeytankmeh, i gotta change config first :)
15:17.10BulletCatcher:-)
15:17.23Manuit's honeytank use a different port for every server ;)
15:17.51honeytankpff i do
15:19.16honeytankserver runnnning
15:19.19honeytankfrom new dir
15:20.17honeytankso, that works :)
15:20.24honeytanknext up...
15:22.01BulletCatcherMake a new directory next to the one that works, and put the needed files into it.
15:22.17honeytankhmm?
15:22.44honeytanklike groupdb, badwords, reportfile, and helppages?
15:22.50BulletCatcherYes.
15:23.25honeytankok, why is that needed cant it be in home dir?
15:23.47Manubecause every server open it in exclusive mode IIRC :)
15:23.58Manuso the first server locks the files
15:24.14BulletCatcherNot on Linux, Manu.
15:24.29ManuBulletCatcher: really? never tried it.. just guessed it :)
15:24.32honeytankso...
15:24.45honeytankcant i left them in /home/honeytank/?
15:25.00BulletCatcherFiles that are meant to be be shared and not modified, such as groupdb, can be in your home directory.
15:25.19BulletCatcherI recommend having a different reportfile for each server.
15:25.33honeytankthats the only thing...
15:25.37honeytankbut the rest..
15:25.41honeytanki think theres no need
15:25.52BulletCatcherYes.  The others are not modified by bzfs.
15:26.01honeytankwell, maybe ill do groupdb :)
15:26.16ManuBulletCatcher: ban files aren't modified? :)
15:26.33BulletCatcherThey are, but can be shared safely.
15:27.28BulletCatcherBut sharing a ban file only works well if the serverControl plugin is used.
15:28.07BulletCatcherOtherwise, it may take a long time for a second server to notice a ban made on the first.
15:28.23Manu:)
15:30.51honeytanki can easily install serverControl :)
15:30.55honeytankits compiled...
15:31.32BulletCatcherSolve the other problems first.
15:32.32honeytanki just did
15:33.52BulletCatcherYou now have two servers running?
15:34.44honeytanknot atm
15:34.56honeytanki dont run one atm, ill try it with moved files now :)
15:35.18honeytankworks
15:35.33honeytankeverything is moved for that server, plus subsubdirectory
15:36.17honeytanknow i wanna run multiple, and them in background..
15:36.24honeytankplus i wanna save logs....
15:37.58BulletCatcherOne thing at a time...
15:38.03BulletCatcherTo run them in the background use "nohup bzfs -conf conf &" .
15:38.45BulletCatcherThen log out and log in again to be sure it worked as expected.
15:38.45honeytankok
15:39.43honeytankit saiys it puts output to nohup.out...
15:40.30honeytanklogged in and out, worked
15:40.54BulletCatcher"ps" shows that the server is still running?
15:41.44honeytanki used ps aux | grep honeytank | grep bzfs cruel told me that command
15:42.15honeytankyep, it shows it running
15:43.10BulletCatcherTry just "ps -fu honeytank".  If it works it will show all of your processes, and is a lot easier to type.
15:43.44honeytankshows server running :)
15:44.57BulletCatcherYay.
15:45.00BulletCatcherTo save logs, all you have to do is add "-d" to your bzfs config (I use -dd for more detail) and the logs will be in the nohup.out file.
15:45.17BulletCatcherYou'll have to restart the server to make that change take effect.
15:45.46honeytankcan i place the logs to another file?
15:46.43honeytanklike i name it server1.log?
15:47.48BulletCatcherYes, if you start the server like this: nohup bzfs -conf > server1.log &
15:48.16honeytankok
15:48.27honeytankthat works... whats next?
15:48.31BulletCatcherChange ">" to ">>" to append to the file so you won't lose the old logs every time you restart the server.
15:48.51BulletCatcherOr use a different log file name each time.
15:49.59honeytankok, i put >> what works too
15:51.05BulletCatcherWhat else do you want to do?
15:51.49honeytankrun multiple?
15:51.55honeytankthat didnt work yet...
15:52.22BulletCatcherGo to the other directory, and do the same kind of things you do in the first directory.
15:53.00honeytankhmm
15:53.21honeytankwhat does the screen command do?
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15:57.13BulletCatcherIt lets you keep a login session running even after you have logged out.
15:57.15BulletCatcherMany people like it, but I don't bother with it.
15:58.01BulletCatcherI learned how to do this kind of stuff long before the "screen" program was invented.
15:58.13honeytankok
15:58.20honeytanki have one more question, its pm
15:58.27BulletCatcherSure.
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16:45.52honeytankgusite is back, yay
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23:52.37owenhHi all!  Does bzfs support ipv6?  I have a server with ipv6 connectivity now but I can't connect over ipv6.
23:52.54blast007no, it does not
23:53.30owenhHmm, okay.  I'll file a bug if bzflag isn't fit for squeeze release.
23:53.43owenh(A Debian bug I mean)
23:54.03owenhI'm sorry bzflag doesn't support ipv6.  Any plans?
23:54.51blast007nope, no plans to support ipv6
23:54.56blast007and what about squeeze?
23:55.24owenhhttp://release.debian.org/squeeze/goals.txt
23:56.06blast007ah, ok
23:56.07AAA_awrightIt has some logic to make a transaction easier
23:56.20blast007but yeah, we have no "plans" to support IPv6
23:56.31trepanif Martin Zobel-Helas wants it, he can damn well code it  ;)
23:56.46AAA_awrightIt does support 128 bit addresses by means of deciding to not handle them, or something like that
23:56.57owenhThat's unfortunate.  I think bzflag is a fun game.
23:57.53owenhAt this moment, my server has ipv6-only internet connectivity, so bzfs is useless on it.
23:57.57AAA_awrightI would have to identify where it uses IPv6, and then setup an IPv6 network to test it, it can't really be hard though
23:57.58blast007our web services don't currently support IPv6 either, so even if the game code did.. ;)
23:58.11AAA_awrightHow don't they?
23:58.22AAA_awrightIt stores IP addresses as strings, there is no reason it wouldn't work I know of
23:58.40AAA_awright(I wouldn't blindly switch over of course, I don't know everything :p )
23:58.44blast007AAA_awright: no IPv6 address as far as I know, and our storage probably doesn't handle addresses of that length
23:59.03AAA_awrightThat's a database change then
23:59.18AAA_awrightSo there isn't anything *major* I can think of then
23:59.22blast007code too
23:59.47blast007does phpbb support IPv6?
23:59.56AAA_awrightDoes it parse IP addresses somewhere?

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