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| 04:43.58 | jeffm | hmmmm... watch tv.. or work on UI tool |
| 04:45.04 | chaoscon | tv, its a friday night, relax :) |
| 04:46.23 | jeffm | if I could find something to watch |
| 04:46.35 | chaoscon | heh |
| 05:08.03 | blast007 | get a slingbox and watch TV while you work on the UI tool |
| 05:16.22 | jeffm | assuming I have something taht broadcasts :) |
| 05:36.39 | Gabe_G23 | win 14 |
| 05:36.42 | Gabe_G23 | woops.. |
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| 17:59.33 | shining^ | JefferyM: hey |
| 17:59.37 | JefferyM | hello |
| 18:00.39 | shining^ | just to let you know, with the help of the nv20 developer I got a very simple patch cooked up that makes bzflag playable without hacks :) |
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| 18:01.03 | JefferyM | cool |
| 18:01.12 | JefferyM | so he fixed his driver ;) |
| 18:01.44 | shining^ | bzflag also let us find another bug related to two side light model. however I could not see any visual problem in the game |
| 18:01.57 | shining^ | I think I found the code where its enabled, some Flag thingy |
| 18:03.11 | shining^ | FlagSceneNode.cxx |
| 18:04.04 | shining^ | line 874. do you happen to know what visual effect this achieves ? :) |
| 18:15.42 | trepan | shining^: normal reversal for the back material |
| 18:17.06 | shining^ | I know nothing about opengl. I was able to find a mesa demo where I enabled back material and could visually see the fix |
| 18:17.13 | shining^ | but in bzflag I dont know where to look |
| 18:24.44 | JefferyM | we don't do it in many places |
| 18:25.07 | JefferyM | most objects are closed meshes, or billboards |
| 18:36.49 | shining^ | I figured it was not used much since I could not notice anything. I didnt try to run a fixed and broken version side by side though. anyway, no big deal, since I found a simpler testcase |
| 18:37.01 | shining^ | just a curiosity |
| 18:38.24 | shining^ | bzflag is giving a hard time to nouveau :) I have different problems on the 3 card generation I tried. but its to be expected at this early stage. writing a 3d driver is hard. without hardware documentation even harder |
| 18:41.31 | JefferyM | yup |
| 18:41.55 | JefferyM | I thought there existed some GL reference apps |
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| 18:56.10 | JefferyM | huzah... XML defined UI works :) |
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| 19:52.02 | shining^ | JefferyM: there are loads of demos/test in mesa codebase. but well they are good to test specific features. I am not sure there is one who could have detected the real perf problems with bzflag |
| 19:52.16 | JefferyM | shining^, I mean from the ARB |
| 19:52.30 | JefferyM | the tests they use to verifiy and validate a GL implementation |
| 19:52.56 | JefferyM | drivers/cards have to pass tests before they can be said to be GL compiliant IIRC |
| 19:54.40 | shining^ | ah ok, I will ask around, this could be interesting |
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