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00:56.52 | blast007 | anyone that is having auth problems, log into the forum once |
00:57.34 | blast007 | and pass that on to anyone that is having problems getting the + by their name in game ;) |
00:57.53 | _piggy_ | Ah so thats what it is :) |
00:57.58 | brad | ah. |
00:58.16 | JeffM | so it can upgrade the account records? |
00:58.48 | Landon__ | It seems significantly faster now that I logged into the forums (authorization) |
00:59.30 | blast007 | yeah |
00:59.42 | JeffM | probably should MOTD that |
00:59.44 | blast007 | some of the users probably haven't logged into the forum since the phpBB3 upgrade |
00:59.49 | blast007 | I just did |
00:59.50 | JeffM | l |
00:59.51 | Landon__ | Good call |
00:59.53 | JeffM | k |
01:00.02 | JeffM | too bad list server can't do the same upgrade |
01:00.05 | blast007 | got rid of the IP change stuff and put that in there ;) |
01:00.13 | blast007 | well, it probably *could* do it, but meh ... |
01:00.36 | Landon__ | Its kinda hard to spot :P |
01:00.54 | Landon__ | Well, most people that play often will have logged in by the time they see it |
01:02.17 | blast007 | can't wait for someone to post on the forum about it so that I can say "surprise! you fixed it already!" |
01:02.44 | Landon__ | hehe |
01:04.10 | Landon__ | I'm betting you'll be getting alot of that here shortly |
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01:11.53 | trepan | from what i remember about setting up the hub server authorization, we should have made a slight modification to the password hashing algo |
01:12.53 | trepan | a single md5 pass over the clear text before the keyed hashing was done would have allowed for md5'ed passwords over the wire |
01:13.06 | trepan | or something like that, don't remember exactly what i was thinking back then ;) |
01:29.53 | joevano | blast007: yeah, no spam here either |
01:30.18 | joevano | i am amazed at how responsive the server is |
01:31.15 | trepan | ya, convert $H$ hashes to $M$ hashes on the fly ($M$ hashes would have a md5 pass over the cleartext before going through the keyed $H$ hash), and check the incoming passwords for a 'MD5:' suffix |
01:31.16 | blast007 | amazing what having a little free RAM does |
01:32.12 | trepan | blast007: and there's still quite a chunk of it tied-up |
01:32.20 | blast007 | yup |
01:32.25 | blast007 | about 800MB when I last checked |
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01:32.42 | blast007 | so when those are gone ... ;) |
01:34.14 | trepan | about the $M$ hashes, it would allow you to store MD5:... in the config file instead of plain text (as well as using md5 over the wire) |
01:34.47 | trepan | wouldn't affect normal lobby passwords (unless someone wanted to use MD5:... at the start of the password ;) |
01:35.15 | blast007 | something to think about |
01:37.05 | trepan | heh, now i remember why i was on that kick; didn't want to have to add password stripping to bzhubd's logging |
01:38.46 | Erroneous | huh, new theme on the forums |
01:38.48 | Erroneous | approves |
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11:58.59 | teatree | has the forum got a new design or am i nuts? |
12:04.26 | delusional | it's new |
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12:35.02 | spldart | ... and your nuts? ;) |
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14:00.16 | trepan | i can put the $M$ hash thing together if yall are interested, fairly small change |
14:01.20 | trepan | at least the younger brother won't be able to log into the forum using the MD5:... password, but he could still get validated on a bzflag server |
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15:16.18 | blast007 | trepan: so it's really not that much better |
15:16.45 | blast007 | iirc, 2.99.x code defaults to not saving the password at all |
15:18.44 | trepan | there's really no way to make it "that much better" without PKE |
15:20.11 | trepan | but protecting forum access for almost no cost isn't something i'd pass over |
15:21.05 | trepan | i'd be interested to know how many do not enable saved passwords ... |
15:23.49 | trepan | ./clientbase/defaultBZDB.cxx:99: { "saveIdentity", "1", ... |
15:25.04 | trepan | hm, but password saves require >1, ok |
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16:03.08 | ts | blast007: Is an option to use the other forum theme planned? With the new theme I can hardly see the scroll bars. |
16:03.51 | blast007 | no |
16:04.00 | ts | sniff |
16:04.29 | blast007 | can't imagine it's too hard to locate a scroll bar :P not like it moves around |
16:04.49 | blast007 | or are you referring to ones in textareas? |
16:05.18 | blast007 | be less vague and maybe I'll agree |
16:05.32 | ts | No, the outer scroll bars |
16:05.55 | ts | They indicate vertical position of current view in total page |
16:06.24 | ts | The scroll bars are dark grey and disappear once the view position doesn't change |
16:06.30 | blast007 | eh |
16:06.43 | blast007 | what browser are you using? |
16:06.47 | ts | We're talking about icab mobile |
16:07.38 | ts | It's a browser running on a phone. |
16:08.57 | blast007 | okay, but I don't see what that has to do with our theme |
16:09.25 | blast007 | is it blending in with the background of the page or something? |
16:10.08 | ts | yes, the scroll bars are displayed inside the page at the outer position.. |
16:10.22 | ts | Where the dark background of the new theme is |
16:10.30 | blast007 | sounds like a bad browser design. |
16:10.36 | blast007 | you should recommend they fix that. |
16:11.01 | ts | Well, there is hardly enough space on a small display.. |
16:11.18 | blast007 | is it a touch screen? |
16:11.23 | ts | yep |
16:11.28 | blast007 | then why is there a scroll bar at all? |
16:11.34 | blast007 | can't you just drag the content? |
16:11.59 | ts | The scrollbars only show position |
16:12.50 | blast007 | shrugs |
16:13.35 | blast007 | not really a concern for me |
16:13.51 | ts | Hrm, okay |
16:13.57 | blast007 | feel free to suggest to the iCab devs that they allow changing the color of the scroll bar |
16:14.03 | Dontkillme | Are Plug-Ins able to send Close(); to the bzflag client? |
16:14.18 | blast007 | Dontkillme: they can kick a player |
16:16.42 | blast007 | ts: looks like they have a 'color scheme' setting - maybe that would change the color of the scrollbar too? |
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16:18.22 | teatree | hey - is it possible to smake shots unvisable on radar after hinten a pyramide f. .e. |
16:18.31 | teatree | *after hiting |
16:18.37 | blast007 | no |
16:18.43 | teatree | k |
16:19.18 | teatree | i thought i remembered that at least the shots where less visable |
16:19.50 | blast007 | not sure |
16:20.08 | blast007 | maybe your graphics or GUI settings are different now than before |
16:20.56 | BulletCatcher | On radar, shots are more transparent when they are at a different altitude from your tank (at least in the radar mode I use). |
16:20.57 | blast007 | for me, they are less visible when above or below me |
16:21.11 | Chestal | teatree: are you using 'enhanced' for radar style? |
16:21.17 | blast007 | probably depends on the graphics options too (such as 'blending' |
16:21.18 | blast007 | ) |
16:21.51 | blast007 | the 'fast' radar should do it as well |
16:23.17 | ts | blast007: no, the scroll bars are part of the OS... |
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16:45.56 | dexter- | delusional: hey |
16:46.02 | dexter- | satu just got his sticker, and mine too |
16:46.08 | dexter- | thanks a lot! |
16:46.16 | dexter- | they're great |
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18:12.15 | blast007 | ts: sounds like a silly OS then |
18:12.37 | blast007 | I also didn't see any scrollbar in any of the iCab Mobile screenshots |
18:15.06 | blast007 | so I can't really check what it looks like |
18:41.46 | joevano | blends in a bit on my phone too, but it doesn't affect the browsing experience much |
18:42.08 | joevano | i just zoom out if im concerned |
18:42.34 | joevano | im running safari on my phone |
18:45.17 | Dontkillme | (Can I see the screenshots?) |
18:45.56 | blast007 | Dontkillme: why would you want a screenshot of the forum? ;) |
18:47.01 | blast007 | oh, you mean of iCab Mobile? |
18:47.06 | blast007 | just google iCab Mobile :P |
18:47.13 | Dontkillme | Ah, thanks |
18:47.14 | blast007 | I was looking at the ones on their site |
18:47.33 | blast007 | when you get on their mobile page, they have a screenshots link at the top |
18:47.41 | blast007 | the one of the side takes you to screenshots of the desktop version |
18:54.02 | ts | blast007: The scroll bars of safari and icab mobile are the same |
18:54.27 | blast007 | k |
18:54.40 | blast007 | so, silly OS |
18:54.58 | ts | Once nothing moves they are invisible |
18:55.07 | ts | I wouldn't say so.. |
18:55.29 | blast007 | I can see the scrollbars in linux just fine ;) |
18:55.51 | ts | linux has no scroll bars ^^ |
18:57.00 | ts | so...it's more like only the GUI part.. |
18:57.16 | blast007 | oh sorry, did I forget to use "Linux/GNU"? |
18:57.50 | ts | Even GNU/Linux has no GUI, as far as I know..it's seperate, isn't it? |
18:58.07 | blast007 | whatever |
18:58.30 | blast007 | point being, when I'm using linux, I don't have the problem you are having with your silly built-in hard-coded colored scrollbars ;) |
18:59.24 | blast007 | is there a mobile firefox for the iPhone? |
19:00.19 | ts | nope |
19:00.25 | blast007 | that sucks |
19:00.35 | blast007 | cuz that one doesn't have a scrollbar at all ;) |
19:00.57 | ts | Apple's policy sucks |
19:01.46 | blast007 | should got an N900 ;) |
19:02.59 | blast007 | shoulda* |
19:04.25 | blast007 | running mobile firefox on my N800 right now - not overly fast, but it would probably be fine on the N900 |
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19:20.41 | blast007 | ts / joevano: part of the problem is the low resolution screen the iPhone has |
19:21.17 | blast007 | 320 x 480 compared to 800 x 480 on the device I'm using |
19:21.25 | joevano | well that and the scroll bar is semi trasperant |
19:21.39 | blast007 | well, right |
19:21.57 | blast007 | but on my device, the scroll bar has dedicated space |
19:22.02 | blast007 | there's enough pixesl for it :P |
19:22.09 | Gabe_G23 | blast007: http://google.com/phone ? |
19:22.24 | blast007 | or in the case of mobile firefox, there isn't a scrollbar |
19:22.34 | blast007 | Gabe_G23: no.. I'm not on a phone |
19:22.47 | blast007 | nor do I want an android based phone ;) |
19:22.57 | Gabe_G23 | blast007: :O |
19:23.05 | blast007 | N900 is what I would want |
19:23.18 | blast007 | if I was rich.. |
19:24.18 | Gabe_G23 | blast007: what's wrong with Android? |
19:24.24 | blast007 | java |
19:24.28 | Gabe_G23 | meh |
19:24.36 | blast007 | ;) |
19:25.06 | blast007 | and I probably can't run bzadmin on it |
19:26.00 | Gabe_G23 | blast007: You can unlock it and get a terminal AFAIK |
19:26.07 | blast007 | doesn't mean anything |
19:26.16 | blast007 | that just means you can dig at stuff more |
19:26.35 | blast007 | doesn't mean I can cross compile a C++ application to it as easily as I could with my N800 ;) |
19:26.59 | Gabe_G23 | heh |
19:27.07 | blast007 | does it have a mono implementation? cuz I can run C# apps on my N800 too :) |
19:27.54 | Gabe_G23 | dunno, don't actually have one |
19:28.00 | Gabe_G23 | only saw my friend with one |
19:28.46 | blast007 | iPhone OS and Android are both going to have limitations like that - whereas on maemo (linux) there's a lot more freedom for software developers |
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19:31.02 | blast007 | heck, I was even able to install a copy of the OS to both of the memory cards in the N800, and could then choose which one to boot from ;) |
19:33.00 | Gabe_G23 | o.O |
19:33.53 | Gabe_G23 | They were able to dual boot linux on the iPhone.. and then they stopped developing |
19:34.10 | blast007 | I ran Android on the N800 too, but it wasn't very functional |
19:34.24 | blast007 | didn't have a touchscreen driver made yet, so I couldn't do much |
19:34.37 | blast007 | (the harware keyboard on the N810 would have been helpful) |
19:35.03 | Gabe_G23 | yeah |
19:35.38 | Gabe_G23 | same with iPhone, they had to send code from another device (in this instance, a phone) to run on the command line |
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