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01:17.18joevano~seen winny
01:17.21ibotwinny <n=iWinny@bzflag/contributor/Winny> was last seen on IRC in channel ##guleague, 51d 6h 8m 45s ago, saying: 'meh'.
01:17.43temporalDhaha - classic Winny
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02:00.29delusional_~bzsvn
02:00.30ibotfrom memory, bzsvn is http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN and svn co https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/bzflag bzflag
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09:56.09jcpjust finished up his bzflag bot
09:56.12jcpducks
10:11.04TutTankAhmonjcp: what kind of bot ?
10:12.15jcpTutTankAhmon: It's an IRC bot I've been developing since last March, and I modified it so it can connect to BZFlag servers too
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10:22.27TutTankAhmonjcp: nice ! in which language ?
10:33.42jcpTutTankAhmon: java
10:33.45jcphttp://jzbot.googlecode.com
10:33.48jcpOfficial channel is ##jzbot
10:39.05jcpAnyway, I'm headed to bed. I'll be online more tomorrow
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12:15.33teatreehello
12:15.59teatreeinstalling snow leopard now :)
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16:17.44jcpIs there any specification anywhere of how to connect to the BZFlag list server and authenticate to it?
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16:24.39jcpAnd could tokens obtained via webauth.php or whatever the web login is, be used to authenticate to an actual bzflag server as a bzflag client?
16:27.16jcpk so question, why is there a ban on gateway/web/ajak/mibbit.com/ ?
16:27.26jcpand why is there a ban on any nick containing "cell"?
16:32.59TheRedBaronknown cheater/griefer
16:33.23TheRedBaronbut that was a long long time ago
16:57.49BulletCatcherjcp: Tokens obtained via the web page are indeed suitable for use with bzfs.  That's how regular clients do it.
16:58.14jcpno, I mean there's webauth.php and there's /db, so was wondering if both provide suitable tokens
16:59.00jcpI'm trying to get my BZFlag bot to authenticate
16:59.30BulletCatcherI am aware of only one kind of token, so both ought to work.
16:59.53jcpok
16:59.54jcpy
16:59.55jcp*ty
17:00.13BulletCatcherTokens used by bzfs are just 32-bit numbers as a numeric string.
17:00.23BulletCatcher(unsigned)
17:00.28jcpyeah
17:00.29jcpok
17:05.32jcpUgh, there are some considerably inconsistencies between IRC and bzflag
17:05.37jcp*considerable
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17:13.07jcpIs it possible to get the numeric user id of a particular user on a bzflag server?
17:18.28trepanwe like to call it "BZID" -- http://my.bzflag.org/bzidtools2.php
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17:56.05blast007jcp: mibbit is banned from the entire freenode network
17:56.22blast007last I knew anyway
17:56.43jorgenptYeah, because freenode has their own chat?
17:56.57blast007freenode put up their own chat due to abuse from mibbit
17:57.13jorgenpthttp://webchat.freenode.net/
17:57.53blast007jcp: it would be easier to just speak to the list server directly instead of to the weblogin
17:59.14blast007action GETTOKEN
18:00.48blast007so pass it that action, the callsign, and password, and that should return a single line in the form of "TOKEN: 1234567890" (if successful) or "NOTOK ...." if it fails
18:01.38blast007so just read the token and pass it in via MsgEnter
18:03.08blast007jcp: and if you want to get the BZID's of everyone that is *on* the server, you could parse the output of /idlist
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19:14.38jcpblast007: yeah, that's why I was wondering why mibbit's banned from #bzflag, cause it's already banned from freenode, but anyway...
19:15.05jcpand on the token thing, ok. It's the "key" field in MsgEnter is where the token should go, right?
19:15.09blast007jcp: for the same reason - but we had it there first
19:15.12jcpah, ok
19:15.28blast007yes
19:15.38jcpk
19:15.41jcpty
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19:58.37teatreeis it normal when i minimize bz, that it takes over the gamma of the game on the "desk" ?
20:09.31blast007probably
20:11.49teatreeblast007: no chance that he just takes over the normal settings?
20:12.09teatreeor is my bz set wrong ;)
20:12.38blast007when you exit the game, it restores the original setting
20:12.45blast007but probably not when you minimize
20:13.37teatreewhen exit its ok... well then.. thanks
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20:20.26temporalDteatree, if you start a second client and exit that, your standard gamma will be restored
20:20.41temporalD(if your goal is to keep the first client minimized)
20:21.47teatreemy goal is it to have the same gamma as my laptop even when i minimize bz... but it is not possible :)
20:22.27blast007teatree: adjust the brightness in the game so that the gamma is the same ;)
20:23.47teatreeblast007:  thats what im trying to day ;) difficulter then i thought ;)
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21:04.39JeffMis it time to go home yet?
21:06.58spldartanxiously stares at the second hand on the clock and sighs.
21:10.18TheRedBaronsilly PST timezone people
21:11.11JeffMwell we do get to sleep in ;)
21:12.53TheRedBarontouche
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21:16.39CIA-75BZFlag: 03trepan * r20709 10/trunk/bzflag/ (17 files in 7 dirs):
21:16.39CIA-75BZFlag: * fixed bzfs -gndtex
21:16.39CIA-75BZFlag: * replaced 'linkSrcNoRadar' with basic material 'noradar' (also for bases)
21:16.53trepanand that's it for misc junk i had in my local sources, might help Mr. McGee
21:18.37trepan(his earthling map's team bases look like crap on radar ...)
21:19.28trepanNOTE:  not his fault
21:19.42JeffMheh
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21:28.19trepanoops, i done broked the rendering with that one
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21:34.35joevanobah... do we need rendering ;)
21:35.21JeffMtext mode FTW
21:44.27teatreegeeesh snow leopard gave my macbook quite a boost :)
21:44.51JeffMyeah that box is pretty thick
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22:54.47CIA-75BZFlag: 03trepan * r20710 10/trunk/bzflag/ (8 files in 8 dirs):
22:54.47CIA-75BZFlag: * added the 'noRadarOutline' material property to fix r20709
22:54.47CIA-75BZFlag:  (and it's a better approach than the original 'linkSrcNoRadar', imo)
22:57.25trepanforgot to mention that rev and proto were bumped
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23:11.53delusional_hmm, and i compiled last night for the first time in months.
23:13.04delusional_can a physics driver nullify the forward momentum  of a tank? .. so if i want them to bounce straight up to a pad...  they land on the pad no matter their momentum hen landing on the pad.
23:14.21JeffMare you asing about 2.0.x or 3?
23:14.30delusional_i want them to bounce, and land on a pad directly above...above, even if they are moving full speed before they land on the physics driver
23:14.44delusional_for 3 would be ok.
23:15.04JeffMI belive you can only apply a velocity to a tank, not set it's velocity in specific axes
23:15.18JeffMthat's what the docs for it say
23:15.26JeffMunless something else has been added for 3
23:16.12JeffMI"ve seen others ask the same thing before
23:16.18delusional_thats what i thought... trepan, consider it a feature request if you haven't already added.
23:16.24delusional_and jeff
23:16.33JeffMwrite it up and submit a patch :)
23:16.54JeffMI belive that kinda stuff could have been done with client side lua
23:19.08delusional_spazzy mcgee put up a server with several V3 map features last night. Called "Earthling", it needs a nullMomentum phydrv  
23:20.15delusional_Our Statsboard plugin is on hold.
23:36.29teatreeis the "login / registration" with the bz servers since these newer versions a bit delayed then in the past?
23:36.37teatreeplayer registration
23:36.49JeffMthat's local registration
23:36.54JeffMnever ever use that
23:37.01JeffMusualy it's disabled
23:37.27teatree???
23:37.30JeffMor are you talking about just logins on 3.0
23:37.37teatreenana dont use 3.0
23:37.41teatreeis that out? :)
23:37.43JeffMor the /login and /register commands in the client?
23:37.45teatreenanan
23:37.50teatreethe normal player reg
23:37.53teatreein the bz menu
23:38.18JeffMI don't understand what you mean by "registration"
23:38.21teatreei think its the one which is connected with the forum aswell
23:38.32JeffMyou mean using your fourm  password in the password field in game?
23:38.33teatreewell callsign / password thing
23:38.35teatreeyes
23:38.41JeffMcus that gets you a token when you hit the list server
23:38.47JeffMthen just sends it to the server
23:38.57JeffMhow long it takes them to verify the token is up to them
23:39.10teatreewell i connect to the server and wait 10-15 secs
23:39.11JeffMdepends on how good they are connected to the list server
23:39.15teatreehmm
23:39.22teatreeok
23:39.24JeffMthat's possible
23:39.33teatreei had in mind that it used to be quicker
23:39.35JeffMlist server could be bogged down, there server could be slow
23:39.42teatreeand im asking because im on a mac since 3-4 years
23:39.44JeffMyes the list server is slower now
23:39.50teatreethat it could had been windows or soemthing
23:39.51JeffMit has nothing to do with your computer
23:39.54teatreei mean win is fast
23:39.55teatreeer
23:39.55teatreeok
23:40.01teatreegot it
23:40.06JeffMwhat you are waiting for is THEM to ask us if you are cool
23:40.23JeffMthe moment you connect to the game you send them your part
23:42.20teatreeim way to awake for this time...
23:42.39teatreesilly later afternoon doze

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