| 00:58.06 | delusional | i'm trying to load a bzc cach to save the server from having to serve the world file.... If i use only the -cache option, I get a random world when i join...... if i use both the -cache and -world options, I end up with the correct world, but the client loads both the bzw and the bzc.... |
| 00:58.33 | delusional | what am I doing wrong? i want to use the cache only. |
| 01:00.10 | blast007 | you have to use -world and -cache |
| 01:02.29 | Gaming4JC | *returns from buggy world* |
| 01:02.40 | Gaming4JC | my tank keeps spawning under the map and dying in water |
| 01:02.51 | blast007 | Gaming4JC: oh, that world. I was gonna suggest a fly swatter. |
| 01:03.03 | Gaming4JC | lol |
| 01:03.04 | Gaming4JC | "C:\Program Files (x86)\BZFlag2.0.10\bzfs.exe" -conf bz.conf |
| 01:03.06 | Gaming4JC | woops |
| 01:03.07 | Gaming4JC | :P |
| 01:03.12 | blast007 | do you have -sb turned on (tanks spawn on buildings) |
| 01:03.15 | blast007 | ? |
| 01:03.18 | Gaming4JC | mm no |
| 01:03.21 | blast007 | need that |
| 01:03.23 | Gaming4JC | ahh |
| 01:03.28 | Gaming4JC | goes to check it now |
| 01:03.32 | blast007 | probably -fb then too (spawn flags on buildings) |
| 01:04.45 | Gaming4JC | hmm and can BZFlag take .jpg files as textures? |
| 01:04.49 | blast007 | no |
| 01:04.52 | blast007 | only PNG |
| 01:04.53 | Gaming4JC | seems only PNG is working, but jpg is more compressed |
| 01:04.54 | Gaming4JC | ahh |
| 01:04.58 | Gaming4JC | ok that makes since |
| 01:05.00 | Gaming4JC | sense* :P |
| 01:09.16 | Gaming4JC | hmm one last issue, this time it's gotta be a map issue... |
| 01:09.30 | Gaming4JC | you know how two tanks has billboards outside of a stone wall? |
| 01:09.39 | Gaming4JC | well anyhow it's the stock stone wall from bz |
| 01:09.51 | Gaming4JC | well, my map has no barrier. o_O |
| 01:10.03 | Gaming4JC | continues tinkering with it... |
| 01:10.20 | allejo | all worlds have a barrier unless you have noWalls |
| 01:10.48 | Gaming4JC | hmm |
| 01:10.56 | Gaming4JC | so can I define where the walls will be |
| 01:11.06 | Gaming4JC | they are probably hidden in an icecap or something |
| 01:11.16 | Gaming4JC | is working on artic snow fight |
| 01:11.17 | Gaming4JC | lol |
| 01:11.25 | allejo | not necessarily. all the worlds have a square shape by default |
| 01:11.48 | allejo | you can make your own borders by making clear walls but i dont think thats what you want |
| 01:12.33 | Gaming4JC | hmm, nah I wanted the nice stone effect |
| 01:12.40 | Gaming4JC | I'll export the map again and see... |
| 01:14.36 | Gaming4JC | errm |
| 01:14.50 | Gaming4JC | I have transparent PNGs but they are still showing up black |
| 01:15.00 | Gaming4JC | it's not a blender issue I don't think |
| 01:15.14 | Gaming4JC | continues looking over all teh settings ^^ |
| 01:17.47 | allejo | transparent pngs? |
| 01:17.54 | allejo | just use a material instead |
| 01:18.23 | blast007 | Gaming4JC: PNG24 or PNG8? |
| 01:18.41 | blast007 | not sure if we support PNG8 transparency, but we support PNG24 alpha channels |
| 01:19.08 | Gaming4JC | ohh |
| 01:19.12 | Gaming4JC | it's PNG8 |
| 01:19.18 | Gaming4JC | cuz I want file size really small |
| 01:19.19 | Gaming4JC | :P |
| 01:19.45 | Gaming4JC | I'll try PNG24 and see if that changes the issue... |
| 01:31.43 | Gaming4JC | lol gyb keeps joining my crashing server |
| 01:31.44 | Gaming4JC | :P |
| 01:42.22 | blast007 | could always add this until you get it working, then: -advertise none |
| 01:42.23 | blast007 | ;) |
| 01:42.32 | blast007 | or advertise it to a group that you are a member of |
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| 02:13.17 | delusional | i wouldnt worry about file size... i just started a server with a 10 MB bzw and 6 MB of textures.. nobody complains it's slow |
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| 02:19.59 | Gaming4JC | arghh |
| 02:20.09 | Gaming4JC | now the map isn't even loading at all |
| 02:20.10 | Gaming4JC | :( |
| 02:21.23 | blast007 | turn on debug output and read why |
| 02:21.30 | Bambino | -ddd |
| 02:21.38 | Gaming4JC | hmm well I think i found the problem |
| 02:21.46 | Gaming4JC | blender isn't exporting any of the mesh |
| 02:21.47 | Gaming4JC | lol |
| 02:21.50 | Gaming4JC | just the bases |
| 02:21.51 | Gaming4JC | :s |
| 02:21.53 | Gaming4JC | strange |
| 02:22.16 | blast007 | I haven't used BZWTools, so I won't be of much help |
| 02:22.48 | blast007 | and it's not a tool we (the project) can really provide support for since we didn't write it ;) |
| 02:22.56 | Gaming4JC | np, it's like totally undocumented. :P |
| 02:23.17 | blast007 | probably better off just exporting to OBJ and then using modeltool (our OBJ-to-BZW tool) to convert it |
| 02:23.38 | Gaming4JC | I always prefer the hardest method lol, even for re-volt track making |
| 02:23.42 | Gaming4JC | ahh |
| 02:23.51 | Gaming4JC | I had thought of that... |
| 02:23.58 | Gaming4JC | but then I can't set advanced options |
| 02:24.05 | Gaming4JC | such as global weapon etc |
| 02:24.13 | Gaming4JC | at least without manual editing of the bzw |
| 02:24.20 | blast007 | you could use BZWorkBench |
| 02:24.28 | blast007 | or at least try using it |
| 02:24.40 | blast007 | I haven't used that one much either, but it's our official editor :) |
| 02:24.43 | blast007 | what OS you on? |
| 02:25.11 | Gaming4JC | Windows 7/Ubuntu dual boot |
| 02:25.16 | Gaming4JC | currently win7 |
| 02:25.23 | blast007 | http://bzexcess.com/2009/10/bzworkbench-r20544-win32-build/ |
| 02:25.40 | blast007 | I have directions for building it on Ubuntu on the site too, different post |
| 02:26.06 | Gaming4JC | cool ok |
| 02:26.33 | blast007 | it's not released yet. those are just dev builds. |
| 02:26.49 | blast007 | (well, it is just a dev build - only one) :) |
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| 03:47.05 | Gaming4JC | hmm |
| 03:47.22 | Gaming4JC | anyone want to tell me why my map isn't letting me spawn now? :P |
| 03:47.33 | Gaming4JC | 12.183.1.55:5154 |
| 03:48.45 | allejo | u dont have the perms to spawn? idk |
| 03:49.00 | Gaming4JC | lol ?_? |
| 03:49.03 | allejo | u didnt put in any player slots? |
| 03:49.07 | Gaming4JC | it's my own hosted server |
| 03:49.09 | allejo | idk :P |
| 03:49.14 | Gaming4JC | has 10 slots |
| 03:49.16 | Gaming4JC | hmm |
| 03:49.20 | Gaming4JC | care to try joining? |
| 03:49.24 | Gaming4JC | IP and port above |
| 03:49.30 | Gaming4JC | maybe it's just me ?? :( |
| 03:49.53 | allejo | let me try |
| 03:51.59 | allejo | hmmm not sure |
| 03:52.13 | allejo | i cant seem to join either |
| 03:54.15 | Gaming4JC | odd :s |
| 03:57.23 | a_meteorite | Gaming4JC: windows server? |
| 03:58.02 | Gaming4JC | a_meteorite: yes. Windows 7 :/ |
| 03:58.06 | a_meteorite | thought so |
| 03:58.14 | a_meteorite | Gaming4JC: how many flags you got? |
| 03:58.17 | Gaming4JC | umm |
| 03:58.21 | Gaming4JC | 40 or so |
| 03:58.22 | Gaming4JC | lol |
| 03:58.39 | a_meteorite | try reducing |
| 03:58.47 | Gaming4JC | ok |
| 03:59.00 | a_meteorite | seems to be a longstanding bug that many swear doesn't exist (devs), others that it does (users) |
| 04:00.26 | a_meteorite | just launch with no flags and see if it'll work then, then add more |
| 04:00.32 | Gaming4JC | hmm ok |
| 04:00.58 | Gaming4JC | currently I set it to 10 flags |
| 04:01.05 | Gaming4JC | but it might be a good idea to kill'em all |
| 04:02.26 | Gaming4JC | :O |
| 04:02.28 | Gaming4JC | it worked |
| 04:02.47 | mebigfatguy | see the bug doesn't exist |
| 04:03.00 | Gaming4JC | I disagre |
| 04:03.11 | Gaming4JC | bug is there when you exceed so many flags perhaps |
| 04:03.12 | Gaming4JC | :/ |
| 04:03.32 | delusional | 255 is the flag linit |
| 04:04.18 | Gaming4JC | ah but 40 crashes my server |
| 04:04.20 | Gaming4JC | lol |
| 04:04.23 | mebigfatguy | i'm guessing the problem occurs when the server can't find places to place all the flags, due to limited flag areas (or at least it takes an inordinate amount of time) |
| 04:05.31 | a_meteorite | nah |
| 04:05.41 | a_meteorite | 40 flags is nothing |
| 04:06.30 | mebigfatguy | what if there is no ground-0, and flags can only spawn on ground ? |
| 04:06.36 | a_meteorite | windows bzfs seems to not like it though... it's been like that for a long time |
| 04:07.22 | delusional | i've had problems whern at least some area of the ground was not available |
| 04:07.28 | a_meteorite | mebigfatguy: it wouldn't be a problem on *nix |
| 04:07.37 | a_meteorite | you'd still be able to join at least |
| 04:08.20 | a_meteorite | but the "can join, but can't spawn" with a certain amount of flags only happens on windows |
| 04:10.30 | mebigfatguy | hmm, why would platform matter there... |
| 04:15.43 | mebigfatguy | and you know for sure it's not a client problem |
| 04:16.17 | Gaming4JC | well it is working fine now |
| 04:16.18 | Gaming4JC | :) |
| 04:16.30 | Gaming4JC | for a min I thought i was going crazy |
| 04:16.32 | Gaming4JC | map is fine |
| 04:16.36 | Gaming4JC | server is borked |
| 04:16.38 | Gaming4JC | xD |
| 04:27.57 | a_meteorite | mebigfatguy: don't ask me, I didn't make the bug. :D but some theorized it is windows because windows limits tcp conns (although what this has to do with flags I dunno) |
| 04:28.08 | a_meteorite | but the fact of the matter is, what fails miserably on windows works just dandy on all other platforms |
| 04:28.45 | a_meteorite | I can say that the bzfs codebase is convoluted, so there's a possibility of some platform-specific code that introduced that bug.. where, who the hell knows |
| 04:29.06 | a_meteorite | or it has something to do with tcp conns |
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| 04:34.31 | delusional | i've got drawinfo bzw's that work perfectly fine on my mac, but when i load them on my linux server, segfalt |
| 04:35.02 | delusional | 2.0.13 seems to have problems with polygons faces in drawinfo |
| 04:37.05 | delusional | also, drawinfo doesnt save properly in a -cacheout |
| 04:46.57 | SportChick | wonders if mebigfatguy is the original |
| 04:57.41 | mebigfatguy | a_meteorite: if you can join, it's not a tcp connection problem |
| 04:58.17 | mebigfatguy | SportChick: who would call themselves MBFG, other than the original |
| 05:03.28 | blast007 | Gaming4JC: running a server on windows isn't advised |
| 05:04.05 | blast007 | and what kind of flags did you add? you said 10 flags, but did you do something like +f good{10} ? |
| 05:04.17 | blast007 | cuz that doesn't add 10 flags. it's adds 10 of every single good flag. |
| 05:06.06 | Gaming4JC | I have it set to 10 mandatory and allowed |
| 05:06.12 | Gaming4JC | not good flag mode |
| 05:06.36 | Gaming4JC | also, im not running a server on my 24kbps line permanently lol |
| 05:06.43 | Gaming4JC | it's just to test it out |
| 05:06.52 | Gaming4JC | i will need to find a host |
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| 05:22.33 | blairzy | hi all |
| 05:23.06 | blairzy | ... |
| 05:23.35 | blairzy | so i wanted to bake off an ambient occlusion pass on a world and then multitexture that in |
| 05:24.09 | blairzy | i backed off to doing multitexturing the old way, and was wondering whether you guys had glsl shaders lined up for this thing yet? |
| 05:24.39 | a_meteorite | mebigfatguy: I'm just saying what many have suspected, I can't personally point to that |
| 05:25.03 | a_meteorite | as I have not researched exactly how flag proto works |
| 05:26.25 | blast007 | hehe, shaders |
| 05:26.37 | blairzy | anything done with glsl yet? |
| 05:26.43 | blast007 | we kinda had shaders for a while, I think |
| 05:26.47 | blast007 | but that was through lua |
| 05:26.47 | blairzy | shaders are much easier to think though |
| 05:26.57 | blairzy | er, through |
| 05:27.02 | blairzy | lua -> glsl? |
| 05:27.11 | blast007 | not sure what lua itself did |
| 05:27.30 | blast007 | I wasn't really involved with that beyond going "wow, look at that" |
| 05:27.43 | blairzy | i figured you guys were a little behind, so since all i wanted to do was basically multiply two textures, i used the multitexturing |
| 05:27.56 | blast007 | as far as I know, there isn't any shader use at all right now |
| 05:28.38 | blairzy | dunno, it would be nice to get some nice environment maps and do some proper hdri |
| 05:29.00 | blairzy | shaders would help :) |
| 05:29.44 | blairzy | hmm, well i am hacking on the 2.0.12 source itself |
| 05:29.50 | blast007 | and you do realize that a lot of our users are on very crappy hardware? |
| 05:29.54 | blast007 | oh, and don't use 2.0.12 |
| 05:29.57 | blairzy | heh |
| 05:30.06 | blast007 | if you're gonna be adding something like that, do it in trunk from SVN |
| 05:30.17 | blairzy | yeah, i can imagine that people are on old hardware, but they should still be able to do multitexturing |
| 05:30.46 | blairzy | perhaps i'll check out the svn repo |
| 05:31.03 | blairzy | is anyone the go-to guy for rendering? |
| 05:31.52 | blairzy | my quadro fx gets too many fps for me to know how it will work on older stuff ;) |
| 05:32.24 | blast007 | well, we only require OpenGL 1.1 currently ;D |
| 05:32.39 | blairzy | but yeah, i was going to bake off ao passes for the rest of the objects in the hix world, then try to multitexture everything |
| 05:33.01 | blast007 | trepan is one that does a lot of the graphics stuff |
| 05:33.41 | blairzy | i am not even sure where all these extensions fit in the whole OpenGL spec versions |
| 05:34.06 | blairzy | just really annoys me that they don't have perlin noise inside video cards afaik |
| 05:35.06 | blairzy | hey blast, is the svn current for 2.0 series, or is it for the 3.0? |
| 05:35.24 | blast007 | it's 2.99.x, which is what will become 3.0 when released |
| 05:35.27 | blast007 | not compatible with 2.0.x |
| 05:36.50 | blairzy | i hear it won't be released for years tho |
| 05:36.50 | blairzy | there is no maintaining the 2.0 branch? |
| 05:37.15 | blast007 | pretty much dead |
| 05:38.09 | blairzy | hmmm so this project is in limbo then |
| 05:38.56 | blairzy | say, do you know how i might get a bunch of robots in a local server so i can observe? |
| 05:39.53 | SportChick | mebigfatguy: presumably no one, but I haven't seen you in ages |
| 05:40.12 | mebigfatguy | mmm... i've been napping |
| 05:42.25 | blairzy | napping is what sunday's are for |
| 05:42.32 | blairzy | er, sundays |
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| 06:46.50 | trepan | blast007: wrong tense? ;) |
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| 07:17.52 | blast007 | trepan :P |
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| 19:16.01 | mrapple | well im trying to start a server, but it doesnt appear on the list server. 2.0.10. can someone tell me what that option is you need to add if its not appearing... |
| 19:17.21 | mrapple | it works fine with the ip, but not the domain. i also cant see the -public message :( |
| 19:19.41 | mrapple | well if you have ideas... leave a memo? :) |
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| 20:16.23 | JeffM | mrapplecomputer1: does your domain name resolve to the same IP as your host? |
| 20:16.35 | mrapplecomputer1 | yes |
| 20:16.38 | JeffM | you sure? |
| 20:16.40 | mrapplecomputer1 | i can connect using the domain name |
| 20:16.54 | temporalD | [13:17] <mrapple> it works fine with the ip, but not the domain. |
| 20:17.03 | JeffM | are you using -publicname ? |
| 20:17.11 | mrapplecomputer1 | you mean -publicaddr |
| 20:17.16 | JeffM | yeah whatever :) |
| 20:17.22 | mrapplecomputer1 | temporalD: the domain doesnt show up in the list, but ip does |
| 20:17.26 | mrapplecomputer1 | yah i am Jeff |
| 20:17.44 | JeffM | then the list server can't get to your machine via the domain name |
| 20:17.47 | temporalD | what is the domain? let us try and ping it |
| 20:17.48 | JeffM | what is the domain? |
| 20:17.57 | mrapplecomputer1 | bzbureau.homelinux.com |
| 20:18.16 | JeffM | and what is the server IP? |
| 20:18.22 | mrapplecomputer1 | oh |
| 20:18.25 | mrapplecomputer1 | 140.209.33.181 |
| 20:18.36 | JeffM | that's what the domain resolves to |
| 20:18.50 | mrapplecomputer1 | yep |
| 20:18.51 | temporalD | i see 140.209.33.181 yes - but it doesn't ping |
| 20:18.54 | mrapplecomputer1 | its also the server ip |
| 20:18.54 | JeffM | if it won't list that's because ether it's banned or it can't comnnect |
| 20:19.11 | mrapplecomputer1 | hmm ok |
| 20:19.17 | mrapplecomputer1 | so what do i do about that |
| 20:19.30 | JeffM | figure out why the list server can't connect |
| 20:19.36 | JeffM | so you see the list server hitting the machine? |
| 20:19.43 | mrapplecomputer1 | i havent run it with -ddd |
| 20:19.45 | mrapplecomputer1 | ill try |
| 20:20.01 | temporalD | mrapplecomputer1, what do you get when YOU try and ping the domain? |
| 20:20.11 | mrapplecomputer1 | uh it responds |
| 20:20.18 | temporalD | hmm - not for me |
| 20:20.19 | JeffM | to a ping? |
| 20:20.24 | JeffM | or to a connect? |
| 20:20.28 | mrapplecomputer1 | ping |
| 20:20.32 | JeffM | yeah cus it may be blocked from the outside then |
| 20:21.28 | mrapplecomputer1 | grrr |
| 20:21.28 | mrapplecomputer1 | ERROR: Unable to reach your server. |
| 20:21.29 | JeffM | actualy one sec |
| 20:21.41 | mrapplecomputer1 | ok |
| 20:21.41 | JeffM | try again? |
| 20:21.50 | mrapplecomputer1 | it works? |
| 20:21.53 | mrapplecomputer1 | yay! |
| 20:22.07 | JeffM | did it work? |
| 20:22.15 | mrapplecomputer1 | well |
| 20:22.38 | mrapplecomputer1 | no |
| 20:23.02 | JeffM | was a long shot |
| 20:23.06 | mrapplecomputer1 | heh |
| 20:23.23 | JeffM | there was a homelinux server on the ban list, I disabled the ban to see if that could have been theproblem |
| 20:23.30 | mrapplecomputer1 | hmmm |
| 20:23.32 | JeffM | but there are others with that domin on the list I see now |
| 20:23.34 | JeffM | so it wasn't it |
| 20:23.39 | mrapplecomputer1 | want me to try another domain name/ |
| 20:23.43 | mrapplecomputer1 | there all dyndns |
| 20:23.43 | JeffM | nope |
| 20:23.47 | mrapplecomputer1 | ok |
| 20:23.54 | JeffM | see if the list server hits your machine |
| 20:24.01 | JeffM | try it with the IP first |
| 20:24.06 | mrapplecomputer1 | that works |
| 20:24.10 | JeffM | and then you can see what the list server hit looks like |
| 20:24.13 | mrapplecomputer1 | ill try it again |
| 20:24.15 | JeffM | then do it with domain and see where it fails |
| 20:24.22 | mrapplecomputer1 | kk |
| 20:25.24 | JeffM | blast007: you arround? |
| 20:26.02 | mrapplecomputer1 | well im guessing its an issue on my firewall |
| 20:26.06 | mrapplecomputer1 | because now i cant connect at all |
| 20:26.10 | JeffM | probably |
| 20:26.19 | JeffM | you set your port forward right? |
| 20:26.28 | mrapplecomputer1 | no |
| 20:26.31 | mrapplecomputer1 | its open to the net |
| 20:26.37 | mrapplecomputer1 | which is the very wierd thing |
| 20:26.44 | mrapplecomputer1 | theres nothing to be forwarded here |
| 20:26.57 | JeffM | brave man |
| 20:27.07 | mrapplecomputer1 | heh |
| 20:27.15 | JeffM | what OS is it running? |
| 20:27.18 | mrapplecomputer1 | osx |
| 20:27.20 | mrapplecomputer1 | 10.5 |
| 20:27.25 | JeffM | good luck |
| 20:27.27 | mrapplecomputer1 | heh |
| 20:27.39 | mrapplecomputer1 | well i have my ubuntu 9.0.4 which i think im going to stick with |
| 20:27.54 | mrapplecomputer1 | two totally different servers, and i dont think this one is going to work sadly :( |
| 20:28.20 | temporalD | the OS firewall is not the only one - there is a firewall on any routers as well |
| 20:28.26 | mrapplecomputer1 | thats disappointing, but thanks for your help |
| 20:28.36 | temporalD | Cable or DSL modem |
| 20:28.37 | mrapplecomputer1 | temporalD: there is no router here though |
| 20:28.39 | JeffM | if it's a home connection |
| 20:28.43 | mrapplecomputer1 | nope |
| 20:28.44 | mrapplecomputer1 | business |
| 20:29.15 | JeffM | odd it dosn't have a real domain name then :) |
| 20:29.36 | mrapplecomputer1 | just testing for now |
| 20:29.40 | mrapplecomputer1 | and 1and1 takes forever.... |
| 20:29.42 | mrapplecomputer1 | worst domain provider ever |
| 20:30.02 | JeffM | godaddy |
| 20:30.17 | mrapplecomputer1 | is it worse then 1and1 ? |
| 20:30.32 | JeffM | but still the company that is donating the host bandwith to you should have a domain name allready |
| 20:30.39 | temporalD | 10.5 has that "stealth mode" - check that |
| 20:30.47 | mrapplecomputer1 | oh yah |
| 20:31.07 | mrapplecomputer1 | ill look at that though i doubt its that because i have 10.5 on other computer here and never worried about it |
| 20:31.54 | mrapplecomputer1 | you know what im just realizing now.... |
| 20:31.57 | mrapplecomputer1 | *facedesk* |
| 20:32.11 | mrapplecomputer1 | eh i wont explain it but this wont work anyway i try it hehe |
| 20:32.17 | mrapplecomputer1 | *facedesk* x 10000 |
| 20:32.27 | blast007 | JeffM: yeah, I'm around |
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| 20:33.03 | JeffM | how hard would it be to set the news and annoncements fourm so that only admins and developers can make new threads in it? |
| 20:33.21 | blast007 | that would be rather easy |
| 20:33.25 | JeffM | I think it'll get rid of some spam |
| 20:33.56 | JeffM | and it's not like regular users should have anything to post in there. most of them are misplaced threads anyway |
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| 20:35.18 | JeffM | another forum I read has had good luck by keeping the first sub forum locked, most scripts seem to try it and just fail. |
| 20:35.26 | blast007 | heh |
| 20:35.33 | blast007 | want me to change it? |
| 20:35.45 | JeffM | if it's not that hard, I figure it can't hurt to try it |
| 20:36.05 | JeffM | it should not affect our real users at all |
| 20:51.15 | JeffM | slightly increases the max avatar size :) |
| 20:51.20 | blast007 | JeffM: done |
| 20:51.25 | JeffM | cool thanks |
| 20:54.02 | JeffM | you can now use an xbox live avatar as your bzbb avatar |
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