| 00:00.26 | Bambino | hey szteerpike |
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| 00:15.22 | learner | list server is obviously having problems |
| 00:15.26 | learner | (not a good day!) |
| 00:15.37 | learner | it's thrashing at the moment, attempting to regain control |
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| 00:19.25 | Murielle | problem with server list? |
| 00:19.35 | Bambino | yes |
| 00:19.43 | KTL | thrashing |
| 00:19.50 | Murielle | that is ur fault, Bambino ? |
| 00:19.51 | KTL | can take a while |
| 00:20.01 | Bambino | SORRY |
| 00:20.07 | Bambino | but no, not my fault ;P |
| 00:20.20 | Murielle | i loose my bet!!!! |
| 00:20.22 | Murielle | n:-) |
| 00:20.36 | *** topic/#bzflag by learner -> http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || Channel Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/ || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || Yes, the list server is DOWN. Sorry for the inconvenience, (quiet) patience appreciated. |
| 00:20.39 | Murielle | n <-- bzflag chat addicted |
| 00:20.58 | KTL | notes |
| 00:22.59 | KTL | discovers that #bzchat moved to ... #bzflag-chat |
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| 00:23.57 | brlcad | yay |
| 00:24.03 | Murielle | yay |
| 00:24.10 | Bambino | yay |
| 00:24.30 | KTL | aya |
| 00:24.41 | Murielle | aya |
| 00:25.28 | Allejo | aay |
| 00:25.45 | Murielle | aay |
| 00:28.11 | mrapplecomputer1 | list server is only loading 48 severs o.O |
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| 00:28.28 | mrapplecomputer1 | 53 now? |
| 00:30.01 | Bambino | the list server is on a highly dynamic IP range, so you have to restart you servers every 5-6 hours |
| 00:30.08 | Bambino | </sarcasm> |
| 00:37.55 | Murielle | serverlist down again? |
| 00:39.06 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.19 | learner | wonders why /me didn't work |
| 00:39.27 | learner | hm, interesting |
| 00:40.06 | temp_dist | ( ) |
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| 02:15.59 | brlcad | has a list of the missing accounts |
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| 02:23.37 | Bambino | brlcad: I got a PM from 'Tanx' saying he cannot login |
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| 03:03.27 | brlcad | Bambino: I know -- I have the list |
| 03:03.32 | brlcad | they should be restored soon |
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| 04:15.28 | CIA-72 | BZFlag: 03Strakowski 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6712 10/w/Bz_eFlagDroppedEvent: Fixed a sentence that ended with preposition. |
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| 04:15.52 | Geometrian | In a rabbit chase, how is the score calculated? |
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| 04:21.12 | cosmos | its calculated on hops |
| 04:21.48 | Geometrian | um... |
| 04:26.44 | Geometrian | what does that mean? |
| 04:27.29 | Bambino | "Boing" Boing" |
| 04:29.20 | Geometrian | So, the number of times the rabbit jumps determines its score? |
| 04:29.25 | temp_dist | Geometrian, the only people who know will answer in obscure code |
| 04:29.29 | Geometrian | or any player, for that matter? |
| 04:30.09 | Geometrian | ...why? That would be unhelpful. |
| 04:30.33 | Bambino | Kill the white tank. |
| 04:30.47 | Bambino | that's all you need to know to play rabbit hunt/chase |
| 04:31.36 | Geometrian | I know...but I like knowing more than that. |
| 04:32.00 | Geometrian | I'm fairly good (you know me as "Ian the Bold"), so... |
| 04:32.49 | Geometrian | :P |
| 04:33.01 | Geometrian | fine, I'll reverse engineer it from the source code |
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| 04:48.43 | Geometrian | fine Player.cxx: wins*(1-(0.5/sqrt(wins+losses)))/(wins+losses) |
| 04:52.43 | temp_dist | see! Gobboldy gook obscure code! |
| 05:17.58 | Geometrian | not too obscure...just c |
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| 10:15.56 | dexter- | The specified username is currently inactive. If you have problems activating your account, please contact a board administrator. |
| 10:16.12 | dexter- | Was fine like 5 mins ago.. |
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| 10:48.22 | jh` | when trying to log in bzbb? |
| 10:48.27 | dexter- | yea |
| 10:48.34 | dexter- | it was fine after brlcad fixed it last night |
| 10:49.00 | jh` | mine seems to work |
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| 10:49.37 | dexter- | yours wasn't broken in the first place ;) |
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| 12:02.01 | joevano | dexter-: let me look |
| 12:02.10 | dexter- | joevano: ok thx |
| 12:03.50 | joevano | dexter-: try it now |
| 12:04.57 | dexter- | hey cool |
| 12:04.59 | dexter- | thanks:) |
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| 12:06.32 | dexter- | joevano: i'm assuming all the stuff that has happened between last night and whenever the backup was made is lost? |
| 12:20.17 | joevano | dexter-: i don't think anything is lost... it was repaired as far as i know |
| 12:22.50 | dexter- | joevano: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewforum.php?f=110 |
| 12:22.59 | dexter- | there were definitely some posts in there |
| 12:24.09 | dexter- | and I seem to have less posts, dunno. Not important to me in any way, but thought i'd point it out |
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| 14:25.41 | brlcad | there are other accounts still being repaired |
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| 15:18.38 | Millennium | Hi! We're thinking of hosting bzflag in a tornament on a LAN. And getting the observermode up on a big screen |
| 15:19.02 | Millennium | So I'm wondering if anyone knows if you can delay observer with say 5-10 seconds |
| 15:20.15 | cygal | I wonder if replay can do that. |
| 15:23.50 | Millennium | Replay? |
| 15:24.08 | cygal | yeah, you can save games and replay them later |
| 15:24.25 | cygal | so if you start the replay 5-10 secondes later.. I don't know if it would work though |
| 15:24.35 | Millennium | Ahh |
| 15:24.45 | cygal | the other solution seems to hack the code to delay observer packets, not that funny |
| 15:24.48 | Millennium | So it saves and plays at the same time you mena? |
| 15:24.59 | Millennium | *mean |
| 15:25.11 | cygal | that's the idea |
| 15:25.15 | Millennium | I'm not a coder, so no codes for me ^^ |
| 15:25.21 | Millennium | I'll try with replay |
| 15:25.23 | Millennium | brb |
| 15:25.33 | cygal | I would have tried but I have to go. good luck :) |
| 15:25.55 | bwd | seems like it would be nontrivial to edit the code to do that anyway. you'd have to keep a buffer for 5 secs |
| 15:29.07 | Millennium | I'm thinking that Replay may fill the harddrive ^^ |
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| 15:31.02 | bwd | btw, why are you wanting to delay it? |
| 15:32.07 | Millennium | Just so that no one can say that they would have won if the other team weren't ghosting them on big screen |
| 15:32.15 | Millennium | I know it's silly really |
| 15:32.23 | bwd | oh |
| 15:33.20 | Millennium | It may be a problem |
| 15:34.02 | Millennium | But I think the game is too new for the public who will be playing, so it shouldn't be a problem |
| 15:34.08 | blast007 | our replay system doesn't stream the data |
| 15:34.20 | blast007 | it loads the file into memory and play sit |
| 15:34.23 | blast007 | plays it* |
| 15:34.36 | blast007 | so you'd have to modify the code one way or another |
| 15:35.13 | blast007 | and it probably won't be a trivial change |
| 15:35.15 | blast007 | :) |
| 15:36.05 | blast007 | might be some screen capture program that could record and delay by 10 seconds |
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| 15:56.05 | Millennium | Just I think we'll try to just let someone sit on the gameserver and press F7 several times |
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| 16:13.51 | Millennium | Thinking if it's necesary to delay, does it give any advantages of seeing for some seconds? |
| 16:16.31 | brlcad | Millennium: one of the observer modes follows the current score leader |
| 16:17.08 | Millennium | Yeah, that's fair in a way |
| 16:17.16 | brlcad | if someone's complaining about being "ghosted", they have their heads up their .. that's just stupid |
| 16:17.52 | blast007 | you could also turn off the radar and the user interface ( /localset noGUI 1 ) |
| 16:26.23 | delusional_ | yeah, i can't see why they need a ten second delay, at all |
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| 17:18.36 | brlcad | anyone happen to know a player that goes by the name "Isaiah 53" or variations thereof? |
| 17:21.28 | blast007 | brlcad: http://my.bzflag.org/playerinfo.php?callsign=Isaiah only instance of that name on the stats site |
| 17:22.30 | blast007 | http://bzstats.strayer.de/players/search/?lang=en&name=Isaiah |
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| 19:02.40 | mrapplecomputer1 | Just a little announcement: BZBureau will be offline until around tomorrow or so due to some technical difficulties. Sorry about this, but hosting will resume on Monday. |
| 19:07.43 | brad | ~bzflist |
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| 19:28.30 | brad | global auth problems |
| 19:29.08 | brad | ~bzflist |
| 19:30.06 | brad | it does seem to load eventually (after 32 seconds...) |
| 19:37.11 | cosmos | ~bzflist |
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| 20:20.55 | cosmos | rusty here, is there a configure parameter for enabling plugin support in bzfs? cant seem to /loadplugin or use -loadplugin |
| 20:23.00 | brad | --enable-shared if you have 2.0 source |
| 20:26.16 | cosmos | ahh, i was looking for an --enable-plugins or something |
| 20:29.13 | a_meteorite | I used to always have to do --enable-shared and --enable-plugins to get it working |
| 20:29.22 | a_meteorite | I still do it by tradition :) |
| 20:29.57 | cosmos | configure: WARNING: Unrecognized options: --enable-plugins ;) |
| 20:31.24 | a_meteorite | errr... doesn't happen here on v2_0branch |
| 20:31.40 | a_meteorite | unless that warning gets put somewhere I won't see it ;) |
| 20:32.29 | cosmos | i just subversioned the latest 2.0 |
| 20:33.14 | cosmos | BZFlag-2.0.13.20091003 |
| 20:33.49 | a_meteorite | mine's a week old or so, but I don't there has been any commits to v2_0branch for at least a month |
| 20:34.04 | cosmos | im just lucky i guess |
| 20:36.20 | BulletCatcher | I configure 2.0.13 with --disable-static --enable-shared to get plugins. The static files are of no use. |
| 20:37.25 | BulletCatcher | Trunk has --enable-plugins, but that is on by default. |
| 20:37.27 | a_meteorite | I would think --enable-shared would imply --disable-static ? |
| 20:37.33 | BulletCatcher | It does not. |
| 20:38.10 | a_meteorite | So... it builds static stuff for no reason... heh |
| 20:38.17 | BulletCatcher | Yep. |
| 20:38.24 | BulletCatcher | It made sense a long time ago. |
| 20:39.00 | a_meteorite | Will it result in smaller binaries? |
| 20:39.33 | BulletCatcher | No. The only libraries that are dynamically shared are the plugins. |
| 20:39.45 | a_meteorite | ah |
| 20:41.38 | BulletCatcher | bzflag, bzrobots, and bzadmin do share a fair amount of code and it would be possible to have them use common shared libraries, but it is rare that more than one of them is running on the same computer at the same time. |
| 20:42.15 | a_meteorite | bzfs, however? |
| 20:42.35 | BulletCatcher | bzfs shares even less code with the other programs. |
| 20:42.36 | a_meteorite | thought it pulled some stuff from shared code |
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| 20:42.55 | a_meteorite | yeah, but you'd save if you run a lot of instances of bzfs |
| 20:43.22 | BulletCatcher | No. The operating system automatically shares multiple instances of the same program. |
| 20:43.33 | a_meteorite | oh |
| 20:43.48 | BulletCatcher | These modern computers are pretty smart. :-) |
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| 21:40.37 | cosmos | ~bzflist |
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