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01:32.25mrapplecomputer1unban me Constitution
01:32.27mrapplecomputer1srsly
01:32.29mrapplecomputer1thats rude
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02:56.41meridienhi I just downloaded binaries for my son and I to play - any suggestions on servers we can connect to?
02:59.44meridienlooking for something fairly newbie-friendly
03:03.56BambinoI wouldn't try Missile Wars 2.3
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03:04.13Bambinoit's not very noob friendly...
03:04.31BambinoXtreme Paintball challenge by ahs3
03:04.56Bambinothe admin team should be willing to help
03:05.06Bambinoahs3-: would you agree? :)
03:10.19ahs3-Bambino: sure
03:10.51BambinoWWII Trench Warfare. Fox Burrow (Only shoot the white tank!!)
03:15.26meridiennp Bambino found something fun :)
03:16.35Bambinomeridien: just a few tips, fool around with the GUI. If someone yells "geno", "g", it means Genocide :)
03:17.01Bambinoit kills the whole team ;)
03:18.01blast007the GUI Options is a good menu to tweak
03:18.26blast007I turn up the shot lines and shot size so I can see shots on radar
03:19.05Bambinoand also increase the radar size
03:19.16Bambinoso you can see and dodge shot easier
03:19.24me1/bind 'f' down "toggle linedradarshots 10 65" <- yes
03:19.46me1blast007, are /binds saved?
03:19.58blast007I think
03:20.11Bambinohttp://my.bzflag.org/w/Config_File
03:20.20me1my way is in-game, so ha
03:20.30blast007but the 'f' key is nice for people starting, since it shows the flag help
03:20.35blast007so I wouldn't remap over that one
03:20.43me1i dislike the flag help
03:20.49BambinoI deleted the map for flags on hud "j"
03:20.59me1but that's far away
03:21.04me1i rest my hand near the radar keys
03:21.19Bambino`12345 <- radar binds :)
03:21.22me1f is the most convinient for me
03:21.31me1Bambino, yeah, me too. ooooo
03:21.48Bambinoyou have 6 radar zoom binds?
03:22.04me14 and 5 zoom
03:22.16me1`=.12,1,2,3 normal
03:22.33Bambinoah
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04:39.34meridienBambino: thanks. had a good session. will check the GUI options tomorrow
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11:16.26Janisash you here?
11:17.22Ashvalai am there :)
11:43.00Janisis there anybody running Linux on powerpc?
11:44.52CIA-72BZFlag: 03trepan * r20615 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): * added bz.GetKeyBindings()
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13:15.54CIA-72BZFlag: 03trepan * r20616 10/trunk/bzflag/ (7 files in 4 dirs): * added the 'paste' command (with Shift+Insert as the default binding)
13:16.06trepan(only implemented for Windows, and non-apple SDL)
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17:34.08PeterDwolderIs there somebody able (and willing) to help me with a little plugin problem (for the bzfs)?
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17:36.07PeterDwolderI compiled and "installed" the timelimit plugin from catay, but I get as I try to load it:   /timelimit.so found but does not contain bz_Load method, error ./bzfs: undefined symbol: bz_Load
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17:36.08PeterDwolderI used the newest 2.0.x source and the actual version of catays plugin
17:38.03catayPeterDwolder: is your bzfs compiled with plugin support?
17:38.15PeterDwolderyes it is
17:38.31PeterDwolderall other plugins load and work properly
17:39.03catayhmm
17:39.54PeterDwolderI tried it with downlaoded source (2.0.13ish) and with the source, downloaded by svn -- both without success
17:39.55catayPeterDwolder: where did you get the timelimit code from ?
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17:40.44PeterDwolderfrom your homepage: (http://catay.be/bzplugins/TimeLimit/TimeLimit-1.0.4.tar.bz2)
17:40.54BulletCatcherWhat operating system are you running?
17:41.04PeterDwolderdebian 5
17:41.23catayPeterDwolder: ok , yeah that's the lastest one
17:41.30catay*latest
17:41.46BulletCatcherIs the actual name of the file TimeLimit.so (with capital letters)?
17:42.26catayit is  normally, if not renamed
17:42.40cataythat could be it
17:42.40PeterDwolderi douple checked
17:42.58PeterDwolderthat cant be the cause, all upper / lower case are right
17:43.38BulletCatcherOkay, what is the output of a "nm /TimeLimit.so | grep bz_Load" command?
17:44.30PeterDwolderhm, I am a real linux beginner, so I cant tell. Shall I enter that?
17:44.36catayor try ./bzfs -loadplugin /path/TimeLimit.so
17:44.53PeterDwolderwait, i check
17:44.59cataytry ./bzfs -d -d -loadplugin /path/TimeLimit.so
17:45.22catayreplace 'path' with the right dir
17:45.41BulletCatcherThe command I suggested should only produce one line of output. :-)
17:46.04PeterDwolderplugin:/home/bzflag/bzflag/timelimit.so found but does not contain bz_Load method, error ./bzfs_1: undefined symbol: bz_Load
17:46.06PeterDwolderWARNING: unable to load the plugin; /home/bzflag/bzflag/timelimit.so
17:46.32cataywhat does 'ls -l /home/bzflag/bzflag/timelimit.so' give as output?
17:48.41PeterDwolderdo I enter this in the directory, /timelimit.so is in?
17:49.06cataydoesn't matter
17:49.27catayif you give the full path
17:50.07BulletCatcherUpper and lower case matters in file names on Linux.  The actual file name should be TimeLimit.so, not timelimt.so .
17:50.37PeterDwolderok, found my failure
17:50.46PeterDwolderi copyied yours and didnt find the file
17:51.15PeterDwolderafter etering correctly, i get
17:51.46PeterDwolder-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 40800 Sep  6 23:29 /home/bzflag/bzflag/TimeLimit.so
17:51.47PeterDwolderv35523:~#
17:52.13cataythat's good :)
17:52.42BulletCatcherNow try running bzfs, using the correct capitalization for the plugin name.
17:52.42catay./bzfs -d -d -loadplugin /home/bzflag/bzflag/TimeLimit.so
17:58.23PeterDwolderSeems I have to appologize for taking your time - I checked everywhere upper/lowercase, but not the L in the config for the TimeLimit
17:58.25PeterDwolder2009-09-12 19:56:18: TimeLimit plugin loaded (by Steven Mertens <steven.mertens@catay.be>)
17:58.27PeterDwolder2009-09-12 19:56:18: Plugin:/home/bzflag/bzflag/TimeLimit.so loaded
17:59.00BulletCatcherNo problem.  Glad you got it working.
17:59.03BulletCatcherOne last bit of advice: don't run bzfs using the root account.  It isn't designed to be secure that way.
17:59.19PeterDwolder( -- > the smily is not from me, was copy / paste)
17:59.27PeterDwolderyea, I know
18:00.06PeterDwolderJust learning linux - but in that case , its a local server in my home with no outgoing connections --> not that much unsecure
18:01.28PeterDwolderbut I dont understand why I got a "plugin:/home/bzflag/bzflag/timelimit.so found" - after that, I didnt checked again the  upper / lower cases
18:01.58PeterDwolderbecause I thougth the failure is somewhere else.
18:02.03BulletCatcherYeah, that's obviously a bug in the error reporting.
18:02.27catayI noticed that also in the past with loading plugins
18:02.41catayerror message is not always that clear
18:03.07PeterDwolderCosted me more than 20 hours......  Anyway, glad it works now. Thnx for your help - I go and drink a beer for you guys  ;-)
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18:03.18BulletCatcherEnjoy.
18:03.32catayheh
18:03.36PeterDwolderJust started to celebrate
18:04.02BulletCatcherAnother caution: don't drink and play BZFlag. :-)
18:04.50PeterDwolderHehe, good advice
18:05.13PeterDwolderdont want to losse my tank driver licence
18:05.34ruskienot really
18:05.41ruskieplaying bzflag while lightly drunk is fun
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