| 00:07.42 | KingRobot | JefferyM: If I were to eliminate some unecessarily linked items via callbacks, the right way to set up & use the callback would be with the BZDB, right? |
| 00:08.02 | JefferyM | bzdb is not an object broker |
| 00:08.37 | JefferyM | it is used for data values that are stored in the client config, or kept synced between server and client |
| 00:08.52 | KingRobot | Ok |
| 00:09.03 | KingRobot | I saw the "addCallback" / "removeCallback" ... |
| 00:09.05 | JefferyM | just make an API that gets and sets callbacks for whatever you need |
| 00:09.17 | JefferyM | yeah that is for callbacks to be called when data values change |
| 00:10.02 | JefferyM | do you want to do C style callbacks? or C++ handler objects? |
| 00:11.03 | KingRobot | I was thinking C style |
| 00:11.09 | JefferyM | then it's pretty simple |
| 00:12.06 | JefferyM | can there be more then one callbacks per event? |
| 00:14.37 | KingRobot | Hypothetically. Something like SomeObject::doShotFiredStuff(), in place of SOUNDSYSTEM.play(SFX_FIRE); ForceFeedback::shotFired(); |
| 00:15.08 | JefferyM | probalby want to allow for more then one callback |
| 00:15.24 | JefferyM | then you can have multiple subsystems hook into it easy |
| 00:15.26 | JefferyM | but yeah |
| 00:15.29 | JefferyM | go for it |
| 00:15.35 | JefferyM | vector of function pointers |
| 00:16.17 | KingRobot | ok |
| 00:16.48 | KingRobot | I've noticed that bzflag often uses stl::vector over stl::list - is there a reason? |
| 00:16.56 | JefferyM | lazyness |
| 00:17.04 | JefferyM | lists are probably better in most cases |
| 00:17.12 | JefferyM | but use a smidge more memory IIRC |
| 00:17.12 | KingRobot | ok |
| 00:18.27 | trepan | std::list is slower to loop through, and doesn't have indexed access |
| 00:18.44 | JefferyM | but faster to delete from |
| 00:18.55 | JefferyM | so it depends on your use |
| 00:18.58 | trepan | and insert |
| 00:19.02 | JefferyM | ja |
| 00:19.17 | JefferyM | vector has to reallocate the entire thing on each insert or delete |
| 00:19.27 | JefferyM | well "may" on insert depending on the implementation |
| 00:19.30 | trepan | not really |
| 00:19.43 | JefferyM | most of them do some buffering IIRC |
| 00:19.48 | trepan | ya, iirc, the usual implementation does much the same as is oft done in bz |
| 00:19.59 | JefferyM | I think people like vector because it reminds them of a C array |
| 00:19.59 | trepan | newsize = oldsize * 2 (or some variant) |
| 00:20.39 | trepan | or because it's simply better suited to the task ;) |
| 00:20.54 | JefferyM | dosn't put that much faith in developers ;) |
| 00:22.39 | KingRobot | In depth answer :) |
| 00:23.03 | JefferyM | for your use, it won't get added to or deleted from much |
| 00:23.04 | JefferyM | mostly just iterated |
| 00:24.28 | KingRobot | On a different topic, what is Processor Affinity? |
| 00:28.01 | trepan | when you have multiple CPUs, the preferred cpuID for execution |
| 00:30.24 | trepan | alternatively, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Processor_affinity |
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| 00:37.02 | KingRobot | Should I set this callback class up like BZDB, or just have a function for each thing that needs to be done? |
| 00:37.51 | KingRobot | i.e. this SomeObject::doShotFiredStuff() or this SomeObject::doThing("ShotFiredStuff"); |
| 00:39.00 | KingRobot | trepan: thank you |
| 00:44.40 | KingRobot | ... we have avatars in bzflag? |
| 01:20.50 | AAA_awright | Is the /set _<tab> crash still a problem? It works on my trunk (and didn't months ago), yet it is still in the TODO |
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| 02:11.56 | blast007 | AAA_awright: can you reproduce the crash the revision when that TODO was added? |
| 02:12.05 | blast007 | from the revision* |
| 02:12.32 | AAA_awright | blast007: I am not able to, all the possible values are listed |
| 02:12.38 | AAA_awright | I was wondering if someone else was able to |
| 02:16.11 | spldart | how do I revert to a specific version checkout? Say the checkout that the bug was intro'd |
| 02:16.29 | spldart | wonders if the bug revealed it'self in lin and win |
| 02:16.41 | spldart | is in win now |
| 02:18.23 | blast007 | probably faster to just checkout the revision you want into a new directory |
| 02:19.22 | blast007 | should be something like: svn checkout -r 12345 https://blablabla.com/trunk/bzflag |
| 02:20.01 | spldart | grr.. cannot get the todo I wanted... what rev would be the revelant one? |
| 02:21.51 | spldart | is wasting time avasting' a managers/ friends machine and wouldn't mine trying to confirm a bug |
| 02:23.02 | spldart | is searching sourceforge |
| 02:23.45 | blast007 | spldart: you know about the svn blame command, right? |
| 02:23.56 | spldart | Nope |
| 02:24.07 | blast007 | svn blame TODO | less |
| 02:24.16 | blast007 | the /set line shows like this: |
| 02:24.17 | blast007 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:24.25 | spldart | that looks command line |
| 02:24.26 | blast007 | so, revision 19046 |
| 02:24.36 | blast007 | oh, you're in Windows |
| 02:24.47 | spldart | that's what I said :) |
| 02:24.50 | blast007 | then right click the file and do it that way ;) |
| 02:24.56 | blast007 | should be a "Blame" there too |
| 02:25.05 | spldart | "doesn't exitst" |
| 02:25.16 | blast007 | what doesn't exist? |
| 02:25.37 | spldart | 19046 by svn -r... lemme right click todo instead |
| 02:29.05 | spldart | Yep... this is new territory |
| 02:29.23 | spldart | And yet not |
| 02:30.23 | spldart | Don't hold on me to verify this bug... I'm just trying |
| 02:31.08 | spldart | grrrRRrrr |
| 02:34.37 | spldart | I keep getting fail waves and red text in my tortoise gui.... N/M |
| 02:42.55 | AAA_awright | blast007: Why not just have the client prepend the callsign in a /me message, instead of the server? |
| 02:43.27 | AAA_awright | That is, after all, how regular chat messages do it |
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| 03:47.30 | blast007 | AAA_awright: what? that's what it does right now |
| 03:47.48 | blast007 | in trunk |
| 04:30.45 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03will07c5 * r19887 10/trunk/bzworkbench/ (24 files in 6 dirs): added box, pyramid, arc, meshbox and meshpyr dialogs and updated the cone dialog |
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| 06:54.27 | AAA_awright | blast007: Oh, sorry, I assumed it didn't change since 2.0. Cool. |
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| 07:19.51 | blast007 | AAA_awright: yeah, there is now a message type byte |
| 07:19.59 | blast007 | so no more hackish /me stuff |
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| 10:17.03 | {janis} | hello people |
| 10:17.19 | {janis} | need help with making a SDL.framework |
| 10:24.25 | {janis} | anybody here? |
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| 13:24.07 | dexter- | BZBB admins: you might want to remove this as soon as possible: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=14168 |
| 13:24.15 | dexter- | definitely something we don't want to on the forums.. |
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| 13:25.51 | BulletCatcher | Please click the "report this post" link for the article (exclamation mark in an inverted triangle button) if you have not already done so. That will help the process. |
| 13:26.34 | trepan | post removed, user removed, ip banned |
| 13:27.00 | trepan | thanks for heads-up |
| 13:28.40 | dexter- | trepan, yea, thanks. np |
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| 20:14.07 | Enkvist | Hello |
| 20:14.13 | Enkvist | any mac users online? |
| 20:16.08 | Enkvist | need help with Developer Tools |
| 20:18.44 | JefferyM | what tools? |
| 20:18.53 | JefferyM | xcode? |
| 20:19.41 | Enkvist | well, if to be correct i am missing so called MACOSX10.4u.sdk Folder in the hdd/Developer/SDK folder |
| 20:19.57 | JefferyM | umm ok |
| 20:20.04 | JefferyM | then you should get it |
| 20:20.25 | Enkvist | i have searched in the google, it told me that i have to reinstall XCode |
| 20:20.38 | Enkvist | i have done it and i have also installed all packages connected with SDK |
| 20:20.58 | Enkvist | but i still dont have it |
| 20:21.12 | Enkvist | SDK folder conatins only MACOSX10.4.0.sdk |
| 20:21.12 | JefferyM | we arn't really an OSX dev support channel |
| 20:21.19 | JefferyM | there are probably better places for you to ask |
| 20:21.41 | Enkvist | well, thought developers can help:) |
| 20:21.58 | JefferyM | you are asking very specific things about your setup |
| 20:22.10 | JefferyM | this is a channel for the bzflag game |
| 20:22.20 | JefferyM | our mac build system is mostly command line based. |
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