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| 00:08.39 | Mets | (it compiled fine I might add) |
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| 01:19.14 | KingRobot | Mets: Is libcurl in your library path? |
| 01:20.30 | KingRobot | It should either be in the paths searched by ldconfig, or in the environment variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
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| 01:28.55 | blast007 | KingRobot: trying to run bzrobots |
| 01:28.59 | dexter- | is it normal, that i have about 30ms lag, even though when I ping the according server from the command line I have about 10ms?.. |
| 01:29.15 | JefferyM | dexter-, what is your frame rate? |
| 01:29.16 | blast007 | when I configured, it said it was building them without python |
| 01:29.26 | dexter- | (using ethernet) |
| 01:29.30 | JefferyM | dexter-, what is your frame rate? |
| 01:29.32 | dexter- | JefferyM, 30? |
| 01:29.36 | JefferyM | that'd be why |
| 01:29.37 | KingRobot | blast007: Without python is fine |
| 01:29.42 | dexter- | seriously? |
| 01:29.46 | JefferyM | yeah |
| 01:29.52 | JefferyM | the packets sit and wait untill the next frame |
| 01:29.53 | KingRobot | blast007: You run them like so |
| 01:29.53 | blast007 | KingRobot: what bot can I run without python? |
| 01:30.00 | JefferyM | so your framerate is your max ping |
| 01:30.11 | JefferyM | well 1/2 of it |
| 01:30.12 | dexter- | JefferyM, omg. so i should just take out the limiter and it'll go down? |
| 01:30.25 | JefferyM | 30's a little slow for FPS |
| 01:30.32 | KingRobot | ./bzrobots -team red bot@localhost .libs/TestRobot.so |
| 01:30.49 | JefferyM | at 30 fps, we can only check for packets ever 33ms |
| 01:30.51 | dexter- | JefferyM, macbook laptop. graphics are absolutely horrible |
| 01:31.06 | JefferyM | 30ms lag isn't bad :) |
| 01:31.15 | JefferyM | but try making it limit to 60fps |
| 01:31.21 | JefferyM | that may help your lags |
| 01:31.33 | blast007 | KingRobot: seems like it tries to join over and over |
| 01:31.51 | dexter- | JefferyM, honestly, i've been trying to figure this out for over 12 months |
| 01:31.55 | dexter- | my lag is now 12ms |
| 01:31.55 | dexter- | o |
| 01:32.09 | dexter- | with unlimited frames |
| 01:32.43 | KingRobot | blast007: Yeah; see the main playing loop |
| 01:32.44 | blast007 | and then it crashes the server ;) |
| 01:32.49 | dexter- | lol |
| 01:33.00 | KingRobot | blast007: Must be a bug in the server somewhere :) |
| 01:33.07 | JefferyM | dexter-, it's common sense |
| 01:33.13 | blast007 | KingRobot: probably |
| 01:33.14 | KingRobot | blast007: Doesn't crash a remote server, so... |
| 01:33.24 | dexter- | JefferyM, lol, I didn't know |
| 01:33.25 | JefferyM | if bzflag was multi threaded then it wouldn't be that big of a deal |
| 01:33.29 | dexter- | but thanks |
| 01:33.44 | KingRobot | blast007: Overloading the packet queue maybe? |
| 01:33.52 | blast007 | maybe |
| 01:34.18 | dexter- | JefferyM, how low can I go on the fps? |
| 01:34.23 | blast007 | crud, and I didn't build debug.. |
| 01:34.30 | blast007 | larts himself |
| 01:34.33 | JefferyM | dexter-, what do you mean? |
| 01:34.48 | dexter- | JefferyM, as in, how low can I set the fpslimit til it starts to influence my lag |
| 01:34.59 | JefferyM | do the math |
| 01:35.03 | KingRobot | blast007: See the next to last revision related to bzrobots... |
| 01:35.13 | KingRobot | blast007: At that point, only the observer joined... |
| 01:35.16 | JefferyM | bassicly when ever a single frame would take longer then your packet time |
| 01:35.39 | dexter- | hm |
| 01:35.53 | dexter- | ok thanks |
| 01:35.56 | dexter- | gettin' late |
| 01:35.59 | dexter- | cya'll:) |
| 01:38.36 | KingRobot | blast007: It did not make good design sense to me at all to have the joinInternetGame2 where it was before. |
| 01:38.59 | KingRobot | blast007: Seems to me the bzflag client and bzrobots should do things much the same way. |
| 01:39.29 | KingRobot | blast007: I'm sure I just missed something in terms of the check that calls joinInternetGame2 |
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| 02:08.03 | KingRobot | blast007: Okay, now try |
| 02:08.13 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03kingrobot * r19818 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ (bzflag/playing.cxx bzrobots/botplaying.cxx): Fixed bzrobots observer bot joining |
| 02:08.14 | KingRobot | blast007: Still can't figure out why the bot cannot spawn |
| 02:14.02 | blast007 | KingRobot: I can try tomorrow night when I have more time. already shut that system down. |
| 02:18.12 | brlcad | returns from long roadtrip |
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| 02:19.53 | brlcad | woot |
| 02:19.59 | brlcad | ~KingRobot++ |
| 02:22.14 | KingRobot | blast007: Ok |
| 02:22.38 | Mets | KingRobot: I added the following line to my .bashrc file to compensate for the fact that I put libcurl in a non-standard path, "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/path/to/curl" |
| 02:22.55 | Mets | but it isn't seeing it yet |
| 02:23.25 | KingRobot | Mets: I'd try installing libcurl in the standard path if possible |
| 02:24.04 | Mets | I know, I want to but libcurl-dev has a conflict with kerberos and I can't |
| 02:25.03 | brlcad | Mets: what's the problem? |
| 02:25.25 | KingRobot | bzfs isn't seeing his libcurl at runtime |
| 02:25.40 | KingRobot | despite building ok |
| 02:25.55 | Mets | yeah, I had to compile libcurl in my home dir because I of conflicting libs with kerberos |
| 02:25.57 | brlcad | which platform? |
| 02:26.01 | Mets | debian etch |
| 02:26.11 | brlcad | ldd /path/to/bzfs |
| 02:26.32 | brlcad | pastebin |
| 02:26.34 | Mets | no root |
| 02:26.40 | brlcad | hm? |
| 02:26.57 | KingRobot | you shouldn't need root to run ldd... |
| 02:27.02 | Mets | and I don't have root, just saying |
| 02:27.07 | brlcad | don't matter |
| 02:27.31 | Mets | so just type ldd /path/to? |
| 02:27.41 | Mets | or you want me to pastebin the output |
| 02:27.51 | brlcad | ehm, 'yes' |
| 02:27.59 | brlcad | run the ldd command on your bzfs binary |
| 02:28.01 | brlcad | pastebin the output |
| 02:28.02 | KingRobot | pastebin the output of ldd /path/to/bzfs ;) |
| 02:28.09 | Mets | roger gold leader :) |
| 02:28.47 | brlcad | if you think you need to actually type "/path/to" then we have much bigger problems, and I use 'we' loosely |
| 02:29.11 | Mets | yeah doesn't find it |
| 02:29.11 | Mets | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/1437069 |
| 02:29.23 | Mets | lol no I know what you mean |
| 02:29.52 | Mets | seems to see everything but libcurl.so.4 |
| 02:29.55 | brlcad | so next, echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 02:30.09 | Mets | blank |
| 02:30.22 | brlcad | so next, where is your libcurl that you think it should be using? |
| 02:30.44 | Mets | it's in ~/bzflag/curl/ |
| 02:31.10 | brlcad | really? how's that? |
| 02:31.22 | brlcad | you compile with a prefix or manually copy files or soemthing? |
| 02:31.27 | blast007 | he built his own |
| 02:31.28 | Mets | compiled with prefix |
| 02:31.36 | Mets | yeah, I had to build it myself |
| 02:31.54 | brlcad | so then it's not in ~/bzflag/curl .. but ~/bzflag/curl/lib/. ? |
| 02:32.03 | brlcad | if you set that as the prefix |
| 02:32.14 | Mets | oo actually.. |
| 02:32.21 | brlcad | of did you move the libdir too? |
| 02:32.22 | Mets | but on echo my path was empty |
| 02:32.29 | KingRobot | Have you logged out of the shell since you put the lines in your .bashrc? |
| 02:32.31 | Mets | no it probably needs /lib |
| 02:32.35 | Mets | KingRobot: yes |
| 02:32.44 | brlcad | ls -la ~/bzflag/curl/lib/libcurl.so.4 |
| 02:32.51 | brlcad | exists? |
| 02:33.23 | Mets | brlcad: yes |
| 02:33.33 | brlcad | okay, so then try this as a one-liner |
| 02:34.21 | brlcad | LD_LIBRARY_PATH=~/bzflag/curl/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH ldd bzfs |
| 02:34.25 | brlcad | then |
| 02:34.30 | brlcad | LD_LIBRARY_PATH=~/bzflag/curl/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH bzfs |
| 02:35.10 | brlcad | does it find it and run? |
| 02:36.05 | Mets | ldd shows it seeing it now yes |
| 02:36.28 | KingRobot | Then all you need to do is figure out why the env variable wasn't set :) |
| 02:36.28 | KingRobot | ~brlcad++ |
| 02:36.31 | brlcad | so that's all you need then |
| 02:36.39 | brlcad | unless you want to set it "permanent" |
| 02:36.53 | KingRobot | will be back later. |
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| 02:37.04 | brlcad | in which case you either messed up in your .bashrc or you have another init file that takes precedence |
| 02:37.36 | Mets | yeah it runs, thanks brlcad |
| 02:37.41 | brlcad | np |
| 02:37.47 | Mets | goofy, must be another file that takes precedence |
| 02:37.58 | brlcad | bash does a priority search for init files |
| 02:38.09 | brlcad | the manpage covers the basics |
| 02:38.30 | brlcad | but .bash_profile would be the usual suspect file for an LD_LIB_PATH override |
| 02:38.52 | Mets | well I'll take a looksy, worst case I'll just run it with a longer command I suppose |
| 02:38.56 | Mets | many thanks sir :) |
| 02:39.05 | brlcad | .bashrc is only read if it's an interactive shell |
| 02:40.06 | brlcad | login shells aren't considered interactive to some terminal programs, which is probably part of the problem (regardless, the setting doesn't belong in that file) |
| 02:40.28 | Mets | hmm I actually don't have a bash_profile file here in my home dir, just history ans rc |
| 02:40.57 | brlcad | so cp .bashrc .bash_profile ;) |
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| 02:42.32 | Mets | hmm negative |
| 02:42.39 | Mets | fiesty shell |
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| 02:43.36 | brlcad | pastebin your file |
| 02:43.52 | mrapplecomputer1 | blast007: can i be whitelisted plz |
| 02:44.51 | brlcad | and/or read the bash manpage's INVOCATION section ;) |
| 02:45.29 | Mets | got it, thanks brlcad |
| 02:45.35 | Mets | typo :p |
| 02:46.24 | brlcad | now you must be killed |
| 02:46.42 | Mets | I suppose now that I'm playing around with the bash profile I should add some fancy colors or something |
| 02:46.51 | Mets | me?! *runs* |
| 02:47.09 | blast007 | ~bzfrag Mets |
| 02:47.09 | ibot | ACTION destroys Mets with a guided missile |
| 02:47.17 | Mets | haha, oo ibot |
| 02:47.21 | Mets | always so violent :) |
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| 03:09.41 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03will07c5 * r19819 10/trunk/bzworkbench/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Arc is now procedurally generated |
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| 04:28.36 | Yassen | Has anyone gotten bzrobots to compile on Windows? |
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| 08:30.17 | noyb | is there something wrong with bzexcess.com (Ducatiwannabe) ? I haven't been able to play there for a very long time. I right-click and/or press "i" but I never get in. Is that the subtle hint that I'm not welcome there or is it broken? |
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| 08:35.57 | dexter- | noyb, you might be under a hostban |
| 08:36.04 | dexter- | noyb, what's your bzbb callsign? |
| 08:37.29 | noyb | blah |
| 08:38.17 | noyb | sniffles... |
| 08:44.52 | dexter- | noyb, what's your bzbb callsign? |
| 08:45.40 | dexter- | can be put on the white list. |
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| 14:53.12 | dexter- | is there a simple answer to this: two macbooks, both connected via ethernet to the same router. but one has a much better/steadier ping that the other? |
| 14:53.51 | blast007 | are they the exact same? |
| 14:54.04 | blast007 | and both running the exact same software? |
| 14:54.38 | _WarPig_ | both wired? wireless? |
| 14:54.53 | blast007 | he said both connected via ethernet, so, wired ;) |
| 14:55.07 | _WarPig_ | wireless is ethernet too |
| 14:55.21 | blast007 | right, but you can infer what he means |
| 14:56.29 | dexter- | the one with the better ping is about a year newer |
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| 14:56.49 | blast007 | when people say "connected via ethernet", they're usually not talking about the 802 standard |
| 14:56.56 | blast007 | dexter-: well there ya go: a difference |
| 14:56.58 | dexter- | I'm talking about an ethernet cable |
| 14:56.59 | dexter- | and is running a little bit newer version of OS X (.6 vs .4) |
| 14:57.12 | blast007 | so why is that surprising? |
| 14:57.39 | dexter- | Didn't think that'd make a difference.. oh btw |
| 14:57.54 | dexter- | BZFlag works again with the latest os x versions? |
| 14:58.22 | blast007 | maybe different hardware, or they improved the driver in the newer version, or there's a slightly different software set running on the other one, etc |
| 14:58.25 | dexter- | when I updated the (older) macbook a couple months back to 10.5.6, bzflag had big problems. video card drivers or something |
| 14:58.34 | blast007 | no idea |
| 14:58.43 | blast007 | you'll have to try it |
| 14:58.50 | blast007 | it wasn't a bzflag problem |
| 14:58.54 | blast007 | apple screwed up the drivers |
| 14:58.54 | dexter- | yeah |
| 14:59.19 | blast007 | you can always roll back an update, right? |
| 14:59.40 | blast007 | (I'm just assuming so, I don't really know) ;) |
| 14:59.57 | dexter- | actually you can't, afaik |
| 15:00.03 | dexter- | If you update and it sucks, you have to reinstall the os |
| 15:00.09 | dexter- | from .0 |
| 15:00.13 | dexter- | Then go up .. |
| 15:00.23 | dexter- | at least that's how it used to be |
| 15:00.45 | dexter- | Think it would say "you already have a newer version of os x installed" or something |
| 15:00.51 | _WarPig_ | The 802 standard covers both wireless and wired. You point is well taken though - laypeople use 'ethernet' to mean wired, and 'wireless' to me wireless. :) |
| 15:05.13 | blast007 | dexter-: that sucks. Windows can uninstall the majority of updates, even service packs. ;) |
| 15:05.38 | dexter- | blast007, cool! next computer i'm getting is gonna be windows! |
| 15:05.46 | dexter- | not :P |
| 15:05.57 | blast007 | awww, you almost had me there for a second! |
| 15:06.00 | blast007 | ;) |
| 15:06.32 | spldart | You poor misguided souls. ;) |
| 15:06.55 | blast007 | spldart: yeah, but we have drivers ;) |
| 15:07.10 | spldart | I see your drivers and raise you modules. |
| 15:07.15 | blast007 | hehe |
| 15:07.36 | CBG | I raise you my underwear. |
| 15:07.48 | spldart | runs away to find the lysol |
| 15:07.50 | CBG | Wait... This is strip poker, right? |
| 15:07.59 | _WarPig_ | lol |
| 15:07.59 | spldart | wrong table |
| 15:08.00 | spldart | doh |
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| 16:10.39 | JefferyM | *sigh* so many topics to delete this morning :( |
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| 16:34.35 | blast007 | JefferyM: would it be worth commiting a fix for hostbans to the v2_0branch? (I'm going to write it anyway for my own servers) |
| 16:34.45 | blast007 | basically make it properly report them |
| 16:34.47 | JefferyM | what's busted about them? |
| 16:34.50 | JefferyM | ahh sure |
| 16:34.58 | JefferyM | if you are going to write the code, may as well commit it |
| 16:35.14 | blast007 | seems like MsgReject doesn't work so well after the client already gets the MsgAccept ;) |
| 16:35.23 | blast007 | so I'll just make it send the MsgAccept after it checks the hostban |
| 16:35.37 | blast007 | (or something to that effect) |
| 16:35.38 | JefferyM | k |
| 16:36.04 | blast007 | currently the client just hangs because it thinks it got it, but the connection was terminated |
| 16:36.12 | blast007 | got in* |
| 16:37.57 | blast007 | and do you think we should make a new message type for the /me actions? or is there a better way to fix that? |
| 16:40.15 | JefferyM | what is the problem with them? |
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| 16:54.11 | blast007 | people can send a specially crafted message to the server, and the server passes that on to the client unchanged, which triggers the /me functionality |
| 16:54.33 | blast007 | the /me command does that on the server normally, and includes the username in the raw message |
| 16:54.54 | blast007 | so I suppose we could also change it to always use the user's name |
| 16:55.21 | blast007 | (the basic problem was that people were using it to make it look like someone else was talking) |
| 16:56.12 | blast007 | and maybe even better would be to have a message type byte that says "this is an action message" or "a normal message" |
| 16:59.06 | BulletCatcher | A better architecture would be to have all /me interpretation be done by the client. The server's role would then be limited to enforcing permission. |
| 16:59.18 | BulletCatcher | It's too late to do that in branch, though. |
| 17:07.10 | JefferyM | I'd rather have a message type in the chat message |
| 17:07.12 | JefferyM | so you know what it is |
| 17:07.18 | JefferyM | like a subtype |
| 17:07.42 | JefferyM | then we can still filter on the major type for stuff like bzadmin and robots, but let the client know what the subtype is |
| 17:08.02 | JefferyM | yeah then the client can do what it wants, and the server can just make sure that it makes sense |
| 17:08.06 | JefferyM | or just remove /me |
| 17:08.10 | JefferyM | it's a stupid feature |
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| 17:08.14 | JefferyM | bzflag is not IRC |
| 17:08.34 | BulletCatcher | People like it. |
| 17:08.45 | JefferyM | I know |
| 17:09.02 | JefferyM | but giving people what they want is not always the same as what they need ;) |
| 17:09.20 | JefferyM | I'm just against a new major message type |
| 17:09.23 | BulletCatcher | *needs* action messages! |
| 17:09.31 | JefferyM | then we have to remember 2 messages that are chat |
| 17:09.45 | JefferyM | and I don't like parsing crap out of the text for /me |
| 17:09.58 | JefferyM | so a byte for a subtype would work |
| 17:10.22 | BulletCatcher | My suggestion requres no over-the-wire protocol support. |
| 17:10.28 | JefferyM | I know |
| 17:10.37 | JefferyM | and that's what worries me :) |
| 17:10.49 | JefferyM | and that's part of the problem now |
| 17:10.53 | JefferyM | IIRC |
| 17:11.03 | JefferyM | the /me is parsed by the client only |
| 17:11.13 | JefferyM | so people send malformed chat messages and make them look like /me |
| 17:11.30 | BulletCatcher | IIRC, the current problem is that the server changes the format of action messages. |
| 17:11.58 | BulletCatcher | If it would leave them alone, there would be no possibility of forging them any more than for normal messages. |
| 17:11.58 | JefferyM | I'm just not a big fan of parsing it out of the chat |
| 17:12.07 | JefferyM | what is the server doing to them? |
| 17:12.13 | BulletCatcher | The server already parses other /commands. |
| 17:12.19 | JefferyM | sadly |
| 17:12.36 | JefferyM | prefers admin messages to command line stuff ;) |
| 17:13.27 | BulletCatcher | I think it currently does something like change "/me sighs" to "* BulletCatcher sighs *". |
| 17:13.36 | JefferyM | ahh |
| 17:13.38 | JefferyM | hmm |
| 17:13.40 | JefferyM | yeah that is odd |
| 17:14.06 | JefferyM | well then I agree that the client should do the name replacement, etc.. |
| 17:14.38 | JefferyM | maybe we are talking about the same thing, just slithgly different implementations :) |
| 17:15.31 | BulletCatcher | We're developers. It's always about the impelementation. :-) |
| 17:15.45 | JefferyM | yeah |
| 17:15.58 | JefferyM | I'd rather the cient not parse /me but just check a subtype bit |
| 17:16.15 | JefferyM | then the server can build up fake /me messages easy :) |
| 17:17.17 | JefferyM | but I probably won't complain about the specific implemenation :) |
| 17:18.18 | BulletCatcher | I have made an addition to my todo list. Whoever writes the code first wins. :-) |
| 17:18.25 | JefferyM | won't be me |
| 17:18.31 | JefferyM | I'm stuck doing relational database |
| 17:18.41 | BulletCatcher | (Actually, whoever writes the code last is the winner.) |
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| 18:14.19 | blast007 | well, I was thinking about the possiblity of more message types then, such as ones that don't include a name at all (for stuff sent by the server, like help text), but not sure if that would be wanted/needed. In any case, it seems more "clean" then having some odd parsing being done |
| 18:15.22 | blast007 | (this is in regards to the message type byte) |
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| 18:18.14 | blast007 | and we're breaking protocol anyway, so might as well do it right |
| 18:18.41 | JefferyM | blast007, yeah that's why i figured it'd be a byte |
| 18:18.44 | JefferyM | not just a bool |
| 18:18.54 | JefferyM | then we can get more then once type of chat message out of it |
| 18:18.58 | JefferyM | help et all |
| 18:19.05 | JefferyM | but then we can still filter on the major type |
| 18:20.15 | BulletCatcher | If there is a need for other MsgMessage subtypes, then I have no objection to having one of them used to identify action messages. |
| 18:21.15 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: if there was only two, what exactly would the reason for the objection be? |
| 18:21.48 | blast007 | in the current state, it would save several bytes |
| 18:23.04 | BulletCatcher | If action messages were the only special type then to me it would be simplest to not encode that into the over-the-wire protocol. |
| 18:24.34 | JefferyM | help messages are a good example of another type of chat message |
| 18:24.41 | JefferyM | we may want to display them differently |
| 18:24.49 | JefferyM | and perhaps there will be others later |
| 18:24.56 | JefferyM | like maybe an "admin" message |
| 18:25.00 | JefferyM | that we can make flash |
| 18:25.17 | JefferyM | like for a /warn command |
| 18:25.26 | JefferyM | I'd like to leave it open |
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| 18:29.03 | Will07c5 | all the procedural generation is done (except for tetra) so I'm going to move on to fixing broken objects |
| 18:30.01 | Will07c5 | also since tetra is depricated, should I just have bzwb convert them to meshes? |
| 18:30.02 | apl_ | what can i do if an ip-adress-range is permanent banned on some servers? |
| 18:30.59 | BulletCatcher | blast007, if you implement message subtypes then I promise not to change it to something else later. ;-) |
| 18:31.14 | brad | apl_: try and contact the server own on bzbb |
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| 18:36.17 | blast007 | server owner* |
| 18:36.37 | blast007 | or the one that it shows in the ban message, as they can probably find the owner |
| 18:37.04 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: hehe |
| 18:37.52 | blast007 | JefferyM: should it be a bitmask, or just a raw value? |
| 18:38.14 | blast007 | (by raw value, I mean, 0 is a normal message, 1 is an action message, etc) |
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| 18:40.59 | BulletCatcher | A bitmask would be appropriate if a single message could have multiple attributes. |
| 18:41.00 | BulletCatcher | We'll probably have to bump the protocol for every change anyway, so it doesn't really matter right now. |
| 18:41.12 | blast007 | ok |
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| 18:47.09 | Will07c5 | define and group now work :D |
| 18:50.34 | blast007 | Will07c5: yay :) |
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| 20:33.55 | JefferyM | blast007, a single value I'd think, since a single message would only be of one type |
| 20:34.11 | JefferyM | you don't have "help messages" that are also "me actions" |
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| 21:18.55 | blast007 | JefferyM: heh, and in an attempt to explain what kind of bits I was meaning, I couldn't think up a name for the behavior of the /me message, so I guess that's a good reason not to use that and just go with raw values instead |
| 21:19.18 | JefferyM | heh |
| 21:19.29 | JefferyM | yeah if it's hard to explain, it may not be a good design :) |
| 21:19.39 | blast007 | ;) |
| 21:24.52 | JefferyM | I just had that same thing happen with database |
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