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| 00:05.52 | JeffM | yay, a working octree system :) |
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| 00:36.47 | Murielle | hello Mr Iceman aka Mr iced Heart |
| 00:37.13 | CBG | Hey Murielle |
| 00:37.31 | Murielle | hey CBG |
| 00:42.59 | trepan | JeffM: C#? dynamic? |
| 00:43.11 | JeffM | C#, no, pretty simple :) |
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| 00:43.21 | JeffM | just trying to understand them |
| 00:43.30 | JeffM | it does VERY simple plane placement |
| 00:43.36 | trepan | chop 'em up, sort 'em out |
| 00:43.46 | trepan | really not much to octrees |
| 00:43.56 | JeffM | no there isn't now that I've gone through one |
| 00:44.12 | JeffM | I've always understand what they DID, just not the guts of how they did it |
| 00:44.29 | trepan | you might also want to look at quadtrees and kd-trees |
| 00:44.39 | trepan | might be better, depending on your situation |
| 00:44.42 | JeffM | naw, I'll get a simple game working first |
| 00:44.53 | JeffM | eventualy I want portals :) |
| 00:45.10 | trepan | all easy, just a matter of keystrokes :) |
| 00:45.52 | JeffM | the hardest thing other then me having to remember math classes I failed, has been the "everything is a refrence" issue in C# |
| 00:45.58 | trepan | there's no C# scenegraph you can just gank? |
| 00:46.05 | JeffM | none that I liked |
| 00:46.14 | JeffM | that were not using XNA |
| 00:46.22 | JeffM | mostly it's just a learning thing |
| 00:50.03 | trepan | keeps going back to the fact that only links and bases need to be replaced to 'mesh-it-all' |
| 00:50.18 | JeffM | cool |
| 00:50.29 | JeffM | bases could be done as an attribute right? |
| 00:50.38 | JeffM | and links as metadata |
| 00:50.41 | trepan | that's been in the MeshFace header for years ;-) |
| 00:50.47 | trepan | same with links |
| 00:52.37 | trepan | although i'm thinking of doing the linkage part a little better than what's already defined |
| 00:53.08 | JeffM | you think it's best to apply it to an object? or just make it map metadata |
| 00:53.17 | JeffM | cus it kinda links multiple meshes |
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| 00:54.01 | trepan | face ... linkto 'other_face_name' ... endface |
| 00:54.31 | trepan | faces wouldn't have to be bidirectional links either |
| 00:54.38 | trepan | one side could be solid |
| 00:55.00 | JeffM | yeah I guess it is one way |
| 00:55.07 | JeffM | bidirectionality can simple be coded in |
| 00:55.24 | trepan | or not ... best not to force it, imo |
| 00:55.30 | JeffM | yeah |
| 00:55.54 | JeffM | that's what I mean, you can replicate the old behavory by just defning your faces in a bidircectional way |
| 00:56.30 | trepan | ah, i convert the teleporter links to meshfaces years ago |
| 00:56.47 | trepan | *converted |
| 00:57.00 | trepan | should make it easy to force the bidirectionally, as you say |
| 00:57.24 | trepan | also cleans up the collision code |
| 00:57.26 | JeffM | think it's time for a better map format? |
| 00:57.37 | JeffM | and just make a tool/plugin that can convert old ones |
| 00:57.56 | trepan | already uses lua to write maps ... |
| 00:58.44 | trepan | tbh, the lua client-side scripts can already be used for the visual junk |
| 00:59.32 | trepan | and to improve the geometry and gameplay, the improvements would probably be of the dynamic type |
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| 01:00.32 | JeffM | then a plugin could just convert a map to a lua script, and we get rid of the entire map ;) |
| 01:02.01 | trepan | i think making things dynamic would probably take precedence over new map formats, but a better network simulation architecture trumps both :) |
| 01:02.21 | trepan | so i'm going to play around with tele links ... ;) |
| 01:02.38 | JeffM | true true |
| 01:02.51 | JeffM | was mostly just curious what you thought of the current format |
| 01:02.54 | JeffM | don't like it |
| 01:03.10 | trepan | easy enough to parse, and to understand |
| 01:03.16 | trepan | has no real beef with it |
| 01:03.33 | JeffM | I just fear it'll get messy and inconsisten was we add more |
| 01:03.41 | JeffM | as the end/endface issue |
| 01:04.22 | trepan | you want {}'s? |
| 01:04.31 | JeffM | naw |
| 01:04.43 | JeffM | if it's all going scripting, then that's fine |
| 01:04.54 | JeffM | the old stuff will just phase out envenualy |
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| 01:27.37 | AAA_awright | I still can't figure out what packages I still need to compile the trunk client on Ubuntu |
| 01:28.15 | trepan | config.log doesn't help? |
| 01:28.41 | trepan | (or ./configure's stdout for that matter) |
| 01:29.06 | AAA_awright | Nope |
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| 01:31.41 | AAA_awright | Is this relevant? configure:23021: checking for OpenGL framework (Darwin-specific) |
| 01:32.50 | JeffM | it's checking to see if you are on a mac |
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| 01:33.37 | AAA_awright | I thought so |
| 01:33.59 | AAA_awright | Ah, "conftest.cpp:74:19: error: GL/gl.h: No such file or directory" |
| 01:34.19 | JeffM | are you SURE you installed the C++ compiler? |
| 01:35.03 | AAA_awright | It compiled bzfs |
| 01:35.08 | JeffM | ok |
| 01:35.13 | JeffM | what video card do you have? |
| 01:35.39 | AAA_awright | Intel something |
| 01:35.52 | AAA_awright | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) |
| 01:36.00 | JeffM | do you have a mesa-dev package in your package manager? |
| 01:36.19 | AAA_awright | No, though it looks like other packages depend on it (somehow) |
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| 01:37.30 | JeffM | have you installed the SDL-dev package? |
| 01:40.47 | AAA_awright | No package |
| 01:41.33 | trepan | libsdl-dev ? |
| 01:42.00 | JeffM | yeah there HAS to be a sdl dev package somewhere |
| 01:42.04 | JeffM | what distro is it? |
| 01:42.26 | trepan | AAA_awright: dpkg -l '*sdl*' | grep dev |
| 01:42.40 | trepan | or use synaptic's search button or something ;-) |
| 01:44.06 | AAA_awright | That might work |
| 01:44.17 | JeffM | might? |
| 01:44.18 | JeffM | does |
| 01:44.25 | JeffM | what are you using to search for packages now? |
| 01:44.53 | trepan | kills of the horizontal teleporter code for starters ... |
| 01:46.35 | AAA_awright | libsdl1.2-dev is installing 20 other packages |
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| 01:47.15 | AAA_awright | Might want to add libsdl-dev to README.Linux |
| 01:49.50 | JeffM | techinacly you don't need it |
| 01:50.02 | JeffM | it's just easy to use to get all those 20 other packages you needed ;) |
| 01:50.48 | JeffM | tho the SIMPLEST thing to do would be to install the 2.0.x source package |
| 01:50.52 | JeffM | then you'd get all it's deps |
| 01:53.04 | AAA_awright | There we go, thanks |
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| 02:07.55 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19687 10/trunk/bzflag/ (21 files in 8 dirs): |
| 02:07.55 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: * bumped BZ_PROTO_VERSION to 0079, and BZ_REV to 21 |
| 02:07.55 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: * removed the horizontal teleporter code |
| 02:07.55 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: * renamed bzfs/CustomGate.[h|cxx] to bzfs/CustomTeleporter.[h|cxx] |
| 02:07.55 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: * reworked some of the TeleporterSceneNodeGenerator code, more to come |
| 02:07.59 | trepan | that's what apathy gets ya ;-) |
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| 03:19.12 | AAA_awright | In trunk on Linux, ASSERTION FAILED (FTGlyph/FTTextureGlyph.cpp:127)(soft): yOffset+destHeight <= h |
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| 03:21.39 | AAA_awright | It runs great though. Not familiar with that part of the code base though. |
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| 05:26.28 | BulletCatcher | AAA_awright: The README.Linux file already suggests the libsdl1.2-dev package for Ubuntu. Is libsdl-dev different? Does it work better? |
| 05:35.39 | trepan | BulletCatcher: http://packages.debian.org/sid/libsdl-dev |
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| 09:02.09 | AAA_awright | BulletCatcher: I installed the recommended packages but it didn't seem to work, I'll double check when I get back to it |
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| 17:13.29 | tobylane | hi |
| 17:13.56 | JefferyM | hello |
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| 17:14.11 | tobylane | can i ask about map helping here |
| 17:14.15 | tobylane | map making i mean |
| 17:14.15 | JefferyM | sure |
| 17:14.48 | tobylane | i want to repeat one size of pyramids in a massive grid, whats the best way? im guessing a text editor |
| 17:15.05 | JefferyM | the group object |
| 17:15.34 | JefferyM | but if it's just one pyramid over and over, just defning that one is fine |
| 17:15.39 | JefferyM | so yeah text editor |
| 17:15.50 | JefferyM | if it's multiple objects that are repeated, the group would be good |
| 17:15.55 | tobylane | how do you define a second area as a copy |
| 17:16.06 | JefferyM | the group is made up of 2 parts |
| 17:16.09 | JefferyM | the define and the group |
| 17:16.14 | JefferyM | the define says "this is one thing" |
| 17:16.26 | JefferyM | and the gruop is "put a copy of that thing here" |
| 17:16.44 | tobylane | ah i see, ty |
| 17:16.50 | JefferyM | and you can just keep repeating the group and it'll make copies |
| 17:17.18 | JefferyM | do you just want to repeat one pyramid? or a group of pyramids? |
| 17:17.47 | tobylane | one |
| 17:18.03 | JefferyM | then the define/group is probably overkill |
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| 17:18.32 | Santosh_IIIT | how to start a server in the linux version of the game? |
| 17:18.40 | JefferyM | Santosh_IIIT, type bzfs |
| 17:18.59 | JefferyM | in a terminal |
| 17:19.30 | nightstrike | Santosh_IIIT: to play with bots, try bzfs -solo |
| 17:19.45 | JefferyM | big stress on TRY ;) |
| 17:20.04 | trepan | it depends on the number of pyramids, if it's 64x64, then using 4 definitions with 4/8/16/32 pyramids will make the map considerably smaller (both text and binary) |
| 17:20.45 | JefferyM | trepan does speak the truth, there will be cases where groups of pyramids will be smaller |
| 17:23.48 | JefferyM | but I think your question mostly has to do with what tools are there to do it. There arn't any editors or graphical ones. so it's ether going to be hand edits, or some kind of scripting |
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| 17:28.39 | Cygal | Santosh_IIIT: bzflag [-solo numberofbots], and bzfs -botsPerIP maxbots |
| 17:28.46 | Cygal | (not bzfs -solo) |
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| 17:42.18 | trepan | tobylane: http://trepan.bzflag.bz/pyrs.bzw |
| 17:42.44 | tobylane | oh wow ty |
| 17:43.23 | tobylane | how big is all that |
| 17:43.39 | tobylane | 2000 world units? |
| 17:44.49 | trepan | the 'scale' used in the final group instantiation can change it to whatever you want |
| 17:44.50 | blast007 | load it into bzfs and check |
| 17:45.32 | trepan | and what blast007 said ;-) |
| 17:45.34 | JefferyM | power of 2 FTW! |
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| 17:45.35 | tobylane | whats normal for the scale |
| 17:45.41 | tobylane | like whats no change |
| 17:45.43 | blast007 | tobylane: there is no normal.. |
| 17:46.01 | blast007 | load. the. map. into. bzfs. |
| 17:46.14 | blast007 | you won't know if that's the size you want until you do |
| 17:46.16 | blast007 | then adjust it |
| 17:46.20 | tobylane | true, ty |
| 17:46.25 | blast007 | if you didn't provide a scale, it would be 1 1 1 |
| 17:46.30 | JefferyM | he did not make your map for you, simply provide a sample |
| 17:46.47 | blast007 | and each pyramid would be 0.5 units in each diretion |
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| 17:46.50 | blast007 | direction* |
| 17:47.30 | trepan | also note that 'scale sx sy sz' does not have to have the same value for sx/sy/sz |
| 17:47.41 | trepan | you can make them all taller by setting sz to something different |
| 17:51.07 | Santosh_IIIT | How do I configure the server i.e. number of flags, number of people who can connect etc. |
| 17:51.39 | blast007 | bzfs -help |
| 17:51.44 | blast007 | or man bzfs |
| 17:51.55 | blast007 | or read the HTML help file for bzfs if you're on Windows |
| 17:52.12 | Santosh_IIIT | And another issue is that I cannot find any flags in the arena( using linux) |
| 17:52.21 | blast007 | did you add any? |
| 17:53.02 | tobylane | wow that's epic |
| 17:53.17 | BulletCatcher | Santosh_IIIT: For testing your patch, easiest is to use the flagbuffet.bzw map in the misc directory. Start it with "src/bzfs/bzfs -d -world misc/flagbuffet.bzw" when you are in the top-level source directory. |
| 17:53.33 | Cygal | Santosh_IIIT: ./bzfs -help |
| 17:54.20 | tobylane | other than repeating a short line of 3-5 or so, is there any way to make some of the pyramids drivethroughable |
| 17:56.10 | blast007 | tobylane: if you want to have that, you might not be able to use groups (unless you have a certain pattern that you repeat) |
| 17:58.39 | trepan | you can still generate the map with groups, and the '/saveworld -g pyrs' to save the ungrouped version |
| 17:58.51 | trepan | s/and the/and use/ |
| 17:59.21 | trepan | if you leave the 'color white' part in, it's going to be a large file ;-) |
| 17:59.32 | trepan | (more so than regular pyramids at least ...) |
| 18:00.06 | tobylane | sorry, huh? |
| 18:00.18 | tobylane | the groups arent saved into what the user caches/saves? |
| 18:00.40 | blast007 | no, that's a client command.. |
| 18:00.44 | blast007 | to save the world |
| 18:00.46 | Santosh_IIIT | thanks. This seems to be working |
| 18:00.49 | blast007 | -g means to save it without groups |
| 18:01.13 | tobylane | ah, ty |
| 18:01.20 | tobylane | any other switches of that? |
| 18:01.35 | blast007 | (so it would expand the map out fo have all of those pyramids, instead of the groups. Then you could edit that downloaded map to make select ones drivethrough) |
| 18:01.47 | blast007 | none that you need right now |
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| 18:11.11 | tobylane | ha, doesn't work with pyramids, ill try cones and boxes |
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| 18:20.16 | Santosh_IIIT | now the patch is not giving any sort of segmentation faults either and the flaghelp statement is rendered without fail. I uploaded it on sourceforge.net . |
| 18:20.52 | Santosh_IIIT | Can you try this one and tell me if it works fine? |
| 18:21.18 | trepan | patch #? |
| 18:22.31 | Santosh_IIIT | patch ID: 2741555 |
| 18:24.03 | Santosh_IIIT | Its regarding the rendering of help statement that comes below the mouse box. To be more clear(how it is stored) |
| 18:24.58 | trepan | i see that there's a ControlPanelMessage::breakLines() routine, maybe have them both use the same routine |
| 18:25.31 | trepan | the ControlPanel one also handles UTF8 strings, from the looks of it |
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| 18:29.42 | tobylane | is there a way to reapply textures already made, eg water, to something else? |
| 18:30.07 | tobylane | matref's WaterMaterial seems to be a replace, right? |
| 18:33.55 | tobylane | ty for the help, aesthetics are last detail i suppose |
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| 18:42.52 | BulletCatcher | Santosh_IIIT: new.patch works for me. Good job. |
| 18:42.56 | BulletCatcher | Anyone want to join me at bzflag3.norang.ca:10000 right now for further, uh, testing? |
| 18:43.48 | trepan | BulletCatcher: i would, but i've got a different protocol ;-) |
| 18:44.00 | BulletCatcher | Figures. |
| 18:44.13 | Wyk3d | lemme see if that port is open |
| 18:44.34 | blast007 | I just need to build a client quick |
| 18:44.45 | BulletCatcher | taps his foot |
| 18:45.38 | Thumper_ | tries to join and gets incompatible version... |
| 18:45.41 | Thumper_ | builds a new client |
| 18:45.56 | Thumper_ | but that'll probably be wrong too due to trepan's proto change today |
| 18:46.29 | trepan | diffs, reverts, builds |
| 18:46.34 | BulletCatcher | the required version is 2.99.21 |
| 18:47.01 | BulletCatcher | rev 19687 |
| 18:47.46 | blast007 | mine's churning through the build |
| 18:48.30 | BulletCatcher | I was just idle kicked. Speak up when you are ready to join. |
| 18:48.46 | Thumper_ | heh sorry. I can pull the idle kick if you want |
| 18:48.53 | BulletCatcher | It's okay. |
| 18:49.10 | Thumper_ | at least that still works ;) |
| 18:49.39 | BulletCatcher | We focus on the bugs here, but many parts of trunk work just fine. |
| 18:49.53 | Thumper_ | i'm there |
| 18:50.20 | trepan | beaucoup jerkiness |
| 18:50.42 | Santosh_IIIT | Thanks. |
| 18:51.16 | Santosh_IIIT | Can you tell me something else to work on. |
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| 18:52.04 | Santosh_IIIT | cos' working on this patch has taught me a lot regarding c++, (considering minor issues also is important) |
| 18:52.36 | Santosh_IIIT | and I am keen on working on this project this summer as I am free also and this can be a good chance to learn more |
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| 18:57.58 | Santosh_IIIT | Another doubt, how about the passwords for the servers? |
| 18:58.21 | Santosh_IIIT | From where do we get to know them in order to join any? |
| 18:59.28 | Cygal | there are two types of passwords, admin passwords and callsign passwords |
| 19:01.23 | Santosh_IIIT | I would like to know of the callsign passwords |
| 19:01.31 | Santosh_IIIT | I dont host any servers |
| 19:01.34 | Cygal | admin passwords are server specific, and set when launching bzfs, and callsign passwords : http://my.bzflag.org/w/Getting_Started#Registering_a_callsign.28Optional.29 |
| 19:01.45 | Santosh_IIIT | just would like to join any if time permits |
| 19:02.06 | Cygal | maybe the callsign you are trying to use is registered |
| 19:02.10 | Cygal | what's the message error ? |
| 19:03.43 | Santosh_IIIT | And I cannot find any of the international servers that are shown to be running in the bzflag home page |
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| 19:04.48 | Santosh_IIIT | We just create servers in our lan and directly join them knowing the IP and passwords |
| 19:06.14 | Santosh_IIIT | error message -- "Error Connecting to Server" |
| 19:06.49 | Pimpi | so you have a firewall? |
| 19:07.08 | Santosh_IIIT | allowed it |
| 19:07.21 | Santosh_IIIT | I face the same problem both in linux and windows |
| 19:07.56 | Pimpi | you can search for public servers in game. does it list any servers there? |
| 19:08.39 | Santosh_IIIT | not at all |
| 19:09.41 | Pimpi | very much looks to be a networking issue in your lan then |
| 19:09.56 | Santosh_IIIT | The last problem that I thought would be to wonder if our lan admins donot allow us to do online gaming(outside the lan) |
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| 19:10.45 | Santosh_IIIT | ok then, I shall find out about that and ask the same tomorrow this time if I still face the trouble |
| 19:10.56 | Pimpi | well, getting the server list is a simple http request iirc |
| 19:11.57 | Santosh_IIIT | Can you tell me what is the callsign password for? |
| 19:12.08 | Santosh_IIIT | Is it to join a server? |
| 19:12.34 | Pimpi | you can register a callsign in the bzflag forums |
| 19:12.36 | Santosh_IIIT | my callsign "Santosh" -- guess it is unique |
| 19:12.57 | Santosh_IIIT | and the password is to? |
| 19:13.34 | Pimpi | if you did so you'll need the forums username/password couple to play with the registered callsign on public servers |
| 19:14.41 | Santosh_IIIT | Understood. Thanks |
| 19:14.59 | Pimpi | so unless you registeres Santosh on the bzflag forums at http://my.bzflag.org/bb/ you won't need the password line |
| 19:15.55 | Santosh_IIIT | ok |
| 19:16.54 | Pimpi | you can try deleting ~/.bzf/2.0/config.cfg |
| 19:17.16 | Pimpi | bzflag will create a new one on next startup with default settings |
| 19:18.09 | Pimpi | including a correct setting for the listserver |
| 19:18.27 | Pimpi | if it still fails there might be a proxy issue |
| 19:18.59 | Pimpi | you can try opening ~/.bzf/2.0/config.cfg and change: |
| 19:19.08 | Pimpi | set list http://my.bzflag.org/db |
| 19:19.11 | Pimpi | to |
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| 19:19.16 | Pimpi | set list http://my.bzflag.org:81/db |
| 19:19.44 | Pimpi | provided the firewall allows outgoing traffic for port 81 |
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| 19:23.10 | Pimpi | Santosh_IIIT: uhm, whats your version bzflag? |
| 19:26.31 | Santosh_IIIT | I am using the trunkversion on linux and 2.0.10 on windows |
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| 19:43.03 | Pimpi | Santosh_IIIT: trunk will leave you end up with a few servers without players. it's an upcoming version, thats not compatible with current 2.0.x servers |
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| 19:43.15 | Pimpi | 2.0.10 should work though |
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| 19:59.37 | blast007 | Santosh_IIIT: make sure you're running the latest client if you don't see any servers |
| 20:00.01 | blast007 | there was 3 or 4 with the latest protocol |
| 20:00.07 | blast007 | I need to restart mine quick |
| 20:00.20 | blast007 | (and then there will be about 5 more) |
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| 20:01.23 | Wyk3d | yup .. 10000 is not open |
| 20:01.54 | blast007 | :( |
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| 20:03.50 | Wyk3d | the default port is though |
| 20:03.57 | blast007 | k |
| 20:04.31 | blast007 | though I run all my trunk servers on ports around 25154 instead of 5154 |
| 20:22.34 | blast007 | Santosh_IIIT: if your trunk client is up to date, you should see 8 to 10 servers |
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| 22:56.58 | Erroneous | woot - 36,556 files and 46 cpu-hours later..."Build: 1378 succeeded, 26 failed, 0 skipped" |
| 22:59.18 | blast007 | you're building the Windows Vista source code? |
| 22:59.26 | Erroneous | heh, no |
| 22:59.29 | blast007 | ;) |
| 22:59.46 | blast007 | "We'll fix those 26 projects for SP1!" |
| 22:59.59 | brlcad | Erroneous: that's a lot of files... interesting :) |
| 23:00.00 | Erroneous | for future reference though, it takes a LONG time to load a solution with 700+ projects |
| 23:00.18 | blast007 | I bet |
| 23:00.23 | Erroneous | and if you have intellisense on, you better be on a 64-bit machine ;) |
| 23:00.39 | Erroneous | has crashed visual studio several times today |
| 23:01.01 | JefferyM | 26 isn't bad, and it's a good finaly test |
| 23:01.45 | Erroneous | yup. means my previous stuff found about 3/4 of the problems (and it only took seven minutes) |
| 23:01.51 | JefferyM | heh |
| 23:02.06 | brlcad | Erroneous: not just the solution count .. you must have big projects |
| 23:02.19 | brlcad | brl-cad has some 300+ projects and it loads instantly |
| 23:02.25 | JefferyM | brlcad, nope, lots of small ones |
| 23:02.43 | Erroneous | averages around 20 files/project |
| 23:02.46 | JefferyM | he's building all of our customer specific projects |
| 23:02.58 | brlcad | hm, that's on par |
| 23:03.04 | brlcad | wonder what yours is doing different |
| 23:03.18 | Erroneous | not sure |
| 23:03.24 | JefferyM | for one of our products each customer gets a specific dll per machine |
| 23:04.28 | brlcad | ah, that is about 10x, so it is a lot more files overall |
| 23:04.31 | Erroneous | each project has four configurations, maybe that makes a difference |
| 23:04.39 | brlcad | was thinking 2/project, not20 |
| 23:04.44 | JefferyM | heh |
| 23:04.55 | JefferyM | ahh the joy of 64bitness :) |
| 23:05.06 | brlcad | still even a 10x increase on ours would just be a couple secs |
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| 23:05.16 | Erroneous | the good news is, every single one that failed in 64 bit, also failed in 32 bit :) |
| 23:05.23 | brlcad | heh |
| 23:05.23 | JefferyM | heh |
| 23:05.31 | JefferyM | 26 busted vmms isn't bad |
| 23:05.41 | Erroneous | no, not really. most of them are old too |
| 23:05.54 | JefferyM | just keep the ones you made then, should be fine for regressions |
| 23:06.09 | Erroneous | is aiming for 100% here :) |
| 23:06.25 | Erroneous | most of them look like they're missing bmps though |
| 23:06.30 | JefferyM | you have beter things to do with your time, like setup your internal IM client ;) |
| 23:06.37 | Erroneous | it's set up :P |
| 23:06.48 | Erroneous | just doesn't log in :) |
| 23:06.50 | JefferyM | ok, USE it |
| 23:09.04 | Erroneous | brlcad: it's roughly five minutes from "open solution" to "no more hourglass cursor" |
| 23:09.20 | brlcad | that's nuts :) |
| 23:09.29 | brlcad | suspects it's reindexing symbols or something |
| 23:09.31 | Erroneous | and the "calculating dependencies" build step takes about six minutes |
| 23:09.39 | Erroneous | that's with incredibuild disabled |
| 23:09.44 | Erroneous | err, intellisense |
| 23:09.56 | Erroneous | so it shouldn't be tracking symbols |
| 23:09.57 | brlcad | ah, maybe that's it, you your dependency graph is fully connected or something ;) |
| 23:10.07 | Erroneous | nope, they're all totally independent :) |
| 23:10.22 | Erroneous | normally they all build in their own solution, just the one project |
| 23:10.22 | JefferyM | maybe it takes it that long to see that they are independent :) |
| 23:10.29 | brlcad | does it know that before it calculates the dependencies? :) |
| 23:10.36 | Erroneous | heh, good point |
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| 23:14.24 | Erroneous | ohh, I bet a good bit of it was regenning the GUIDs |
| 23:14.27 | Erroneous | we have a lot of duplicates |
| 23:14.59 | JefferyM | yeah the old template just copied |
| 23:15.14 | JefferyM | so does the superduper |
| 23:15.20 | Erroneous | yup |
| 23:15.46 | Erroneous | checks in the newly-uniquified projects |
| 23:15.55 | brlcad | goes for a quick run to unlethargize |
| 23:16.29 | JefferyM | leans back in his chair to relethargify |
| 23:17.59 | brlcad | heh |
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