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| 02:46.24 | Will07c5 | I submitted the dead reckoning patch, it is not perfect yet but it is an improvement since it keeps the tanks from going through the geometry slightly between updates |
| 02:46.24 | Will07c5 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2754422&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 02:48.02 | JeffM | how's it look in play? |
| 02:49.23 | Will07c5 | well you don't see tanks going through buildings |
| 02:50.06 | Will07c5 | and that works in all directions |
| 02:50.07 | Will07c5 | not just the z direction |
| 02:50.07 | blast007 | Will07c5: before it, did you notice tanks flashing between their actual position and the top of a build when they drove against said building? |
| 02:50.20 | blast007 | building* |
| 02:50.45 | Will07c5 | in certain situations yes |
| 02:50.53 | JeffM | Will07c5: go ahead and commit it to trunk please. |
| 02:51.15 | Will07c5 | I have commit access? |
| 02:51.19 | JeffM | you do now |
| 02:51.20 | JeffM | ;) |
| 02:51.24 | blast007 | hehe |
| 02:51.25 | Will07c5 | :D |
| 02:51.30 | JeffM | is sick of applying your patches |
| 02:51.41 | JeffM | you've done more then some who have commit, so why the hell not |
| 02:51.50 | JeffM | just don't break anything |
| 02:52.00 | trepan | for too long ... ;-) |
| 02:52.13 | JeffM | or we'll send mikeeusa to hunt you down and shoot you with his bow |
| 02:52.28 | trepan | now that's going back a ways |
| 02:52.33 | JeffM | indeed |
| 02:52.39 | Will07c5 | heh, I won't break anything |
| 02:52.44 | JeffM | yes you will |
| 02:52.51 | JeffM | but that's ok, just fix it when somone asks :) |
| 02:52.56 | Will07c5 | well I'll *try* not to :P |
| 02:53.02 | JeffM | and talk about what you are gonna do before you do it |
| 02:53.02 | Will07c5 | that's what I meant |
| 02:53.04 | JeffM | then you'll be fine |
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| 02:54.51 | JeffM | tries to learn how one builds an octree |
| 02:55.32 | JeffM | annnnnndddddd a tutorial in basic... isn't going to cut it :) |
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| 03:02.54 | Will07c5 | anyway thanks, and I'll have it committed just as soon as I am sure it compiles with the latest svn revision |
| 03:03.03 | Will07c5 | needs to get in the habit of updating often |
| 03:03.06 | JeffM | indeed |
| 03:03.23 | JeffM | that's why CIA is nice, you can see commits |
| 03:04.11 | Will07c5 | yeah |
| 03:05.30 | JeffM | thinks he actualy understands octrees now |
| 03:13.31 | Will07c5 | good thing I checked, I forgot that everything was being changed to fvec3 |
| 03:14.27 | trepan | Will07c5: i have a small commit to LocalPlayer almost ready, haven't really rework it for fvec'ing yet |
| 03:14.49 | trepan | and that's one piece of code that it should help make clearer |
| 03:15.36 | Will07c5 | my patch only applies to Player |
| 03:15.53 | Will07c5 | is that class finished? |
| 03:16.03 | trepan | ah, you're only doing DR ... only 5 lines changed in Player.cxx |
| 03:16.14 | Will07c5 | ok |
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| 03:40.09 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03will07c5 * r19647 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ (Player.cxx Player.h): The dead reckoning now accounts for collisions with the world. This prevents remote tanks from going slightly through world the world between updates. |
| 03:41.04 | Will07c5 | hmm I seem to have failed at proof reading, oh well |
| 03:41.16 | Will07c5 | celebrates his first commit |
| 03:44.04 | BulletCatcher | ~Will07c5++ |
| 03:44.18 | Will07c5 | what does that do anyway? |
| 03:44.48 | BulletCatcher | ~karma Will07c5 |
| 03:44.48 | ibot | will07c5 has karma of 1 |
| 03:44.59 | Will07c5 | oh that makes sense |
| 03:45.02 | Will07c5 | thanks :) |
| 03:45.05 | BulletCatcher | :-) |
| 03:46.56 | trepan | m |
| 03:46.58 | trepan | oops, ww :) |
| 03:47.17 | BulletCatcher | Please enter password to continue: |
| 03:47.41 | Will07c5 | ******** |
| 03:47.50 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r19648 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/StartBZFS/ (. Properties/): Have Subversion ignore Makefile and Makefile.in when they are present. |
| 03:48.46 | trepan | Will07c5: what OS are you on? Player.cxx:604: warning: unused parameters 'endPos' and 'endAzimuth' |
| 03:49.01 | Will07c5 | windows |
| 03:50.38 | Will07c5 | oh yeah |
| 03:50.42 | Will07c5 | never needed those |
| 03:50.47 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19649 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/Player.cxx: * fvec'ery, and commented a couple of unused function parameters |
| 03:50.58 | Will07c5 | I just forgot to remove those parameters |
| 03:52.40 | Will07c5 | damn visual c++ not wanning about things like that |
| 03:53.01 | BulletCatcher | It happens all the time. Don't worry about it. |
| 03:53.13 | trepan | gcc misses a couple of MSVC ones, it all balances out in the end :) |
| 03:54.04 | Will07c5 | heh although on average I've noticed gcc tends to be stricter |
| 03:54.20 | trepan | especially with -ansi -pedantic |
| 03:54.26 | trepan | and -Wall -Wextra ... |
| 03:55.12 | Will07c5 | yeah in one of my classes we have to use -ansi and it doesn't even allow single line comments |
| 03:57.21 | BulletCatcher | Will07c5, you should be able to close your own patch in SourceForge now. |
| 03:58.35 | Will07c5 | I noticed but then proceeded to forget to actually close it :P |
| 03:58.54 | Will07c5 | it is closed now |
| 04:27.27 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19650 10/trunk/bzflag/ (67 files in 10 dirs): |
| 04:27.27 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: * more fvec'ing |
| 04:27.27 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: * removed the unused WorldInfo::inRect and WorldInfo::rectHitCirc() |
| 04:27.27 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: * used BZDB_float's for computeMomentum() and computeFriction() |
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| 07:19.47 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19651 10/trunk/bzflag/ (33 files in 9 dirs): |
| 07:19.47 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: * more fvec'ing |
| 07:19.47 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: * added the 'T vec4::planeDist(const vec3<T>&)' function to vectors.h |
| 07:19.47 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: (nicer notation for finding the distance between a plane and a point) |
| 07:19.48 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: * made the MeshFace pointer arrays point to const data |
| 07:21.37 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19652 10/trunk/bzflag/src/scene/Occluder.cxx: * oops |
| 07:34.36 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19653 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/SceneRenderer.cxx: * no sun, no shadows (this also fixes a BSP crash bug) |
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| 09:54.25 | PositiveG | anyone a BZTank.net admin? |
| 09:54.35 | PositiveG | We need one |
| 09:56.06 | PositiveG | Never mind - poll ban (3 attempts) |
| 12:00.11 | jorgenpt | ~gsoctimeline |
| 12:00.12 | ibot | hmm... gsoctimeline is http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline |
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| 12:53.46 | nightstrike | so mentors, howz the application ranking going on? |
| 12:58.00 | spldart | Yay! Easter! Time for family and friends :) |
| 12:58.53 | nightstrike | :) |
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| 17:53.56 | trepan | tofu: you want all the GLfloat's gone? |
| 17:54.09 | trepan | s/gone/replaced/ |
| 17:55.59 | JeffM | trepan: is there a simple way to do AABB intersections |
| 17:56.47 | JeffM | as in just returning a bool for yes no |
| 17:57.37 | JeffM | oh, nevermind. I am stupid, I already had that code :) |
| 17:59.52 | trepan | ie: AABB1 touches AABB2 ? |
| 18:00.25 | JeffM | AABB1 is inside or crosses 2 |
| 18:00.28 | JeffM | but I had that code |
| 18:00.33 | JeffM | I just didn't see it right |
| 18:00.42 | JeffM | and I'm just waking up |
| 18:00.49 | JeffM | I hope this thing works :) |
| 18:00.56 | trepan | bool Extents::touches(const Extents& orig) const |
| 18:01.22 | JeffM | wonder how close that is to what I came up with :) |
| 18:04.34 | JeffM | yep, that's basicly what I did :) |
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| 18:06.52 | trepan | ya, not rocket science :) |
| 18:07.08 | JeffM | other then my typos |
| 18:08.41 | JeffM | man, now I have to find a GL book to find out if GL's matrix is 0 1 2 3 or 0 4 8 12 |
| 18:10.00 | JeffM | wonders why the hell he owns so many directX books |
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| 18:11.02 | JeffM | crap, it is col major :( |
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| 19:45.44 | Santosh_IIIT | how do I get to compile my patch for the code? |
| 19:46.13 | Santosh_IIIT | because when I make on my system I dont get any sort of error with my pathc |
| 19:46.19 | Santosh_IIIT | "patch" |
| 19:46.37 | Santosh_IIIT | any compile time errors with it |
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| 19:46.49 | JeffM | I'm not sure what you are asking Santosh_IIIT |
| 19:46.57 | JeffM | you have made the patch? |
| 19:47.03 | Santosh_IIIT | yes |
| 19:47.12 | JeffM | or you have made the code changes and want to generate the patch file? |
| 19:47.27 | Santosh_IIIT | but I have received comments that my patch gives compile time errors |
| 19:47.38 | JeffM | from who? |
| 19:47.40 | Santosh_IIIT | made the patch with "svn diff" |
| 19:47.49 | Santosh_IIIT | bullet_catcher |
| 19:47.51 | JeffM | it is probably not your patch, but the code in it ;) |
| 19:47.57 | JeffM | what OS are you using? |
| 19:48.03 | Santosh_IIIT | ubuntu |
| 19:48.10 | JeffM | he is probably using somethign else |
| 19:48.16 | JeffM | what is the link to your patch? |
| 19:48.16 | Will07c5 | did you make sure to update to the latest svn revision? I had that problem with my patch |
| 19:48.26 | JeffM | that is another possiblitiy |
| 19:48.45 | JeffM | but then Will07c5 was also working on the same stuff that trepan was changing |
| 19:48.59 | Santosh_IIIT | the thing is when I run the code in my system, i.e. make after ./configure, I dont recieve an errors |
| 19:49.07 | JeffM | so? |
| 19:49.16 | JeffM | that dosn't mean that you have the same system as others ;) |
| 19:49.22 | JeffM | I never run configure for bzflag |
| 19:49.24 | JeffM | ever |
| 19:50.15 | Santosh_IIIT | is there any special way to compile the patch i.e. to apply the patch to the source code by using "svn commit" or anything like that |
| 19:50.19 | JeffM | no |
| 19:50.24 | JeffM | dude, LISTEN to us |
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| 19:50.30 | JeffM | it is probably NOT your patch method |
| 19:50.32 | JeffM | but your code |
| 19:50.52 | JeffM | Were you using trunk? |
| 19:51.05 | Santosh_IIIT | I read the INSTALL file which gave a sequence of instuctions |
| 19:51.13 | Santosh_IIIT | yes. I am using the trunk |
| 19:51.15 | JeffM | ok, dude let me know when you are ready to talk |
| 19:51.34 | JeffM | was it current when you made the patch? |
| 19:51.56 | Santosh_IIIT | current in the sense? |
| 19:52.09 | JeffM | in the fact that you did a svn up before you made the patch |
| 19:52.18 | JeffM | as in the current most revision on our server? |
| 19:52.29 | Santosh_IIIT | svn co https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/bzflag |
| 19:52.39 | Santosh_IIIT | I downloaded from there |
| 19:52.46 | JeffM | yes, but did you ever UPDATE it |
| 19:52.51 | Santosh_IIIT | yes |
| 19:53.00 | JeffM | ok |
| 19:53.13 | Santosh_IIIT | after downloading it from there |
| 19:53.18 | Santosh_IIIT | done it twice |
| 19:53.25 | JeffM | then your code probalby has bugs in it that simply show up on other OSs |
| 19:54.22 | JeffM | svn up will just update the dir, you don't have to co it again |
| 19:54.23 | Santosh_IIIT | I have not done any major modifications to the code. Those are just minor changes |
| 19:54.23 | Santosh_IIIT | Nothing OS based |
| 19:54.23 | JeffM | you'd be supprised what the various compilers do ;) |
| 19:54.50 | Santosh_IIIT | OK.I do understandI have done only "svn up". |
| 19:55.05 | JeffM | after the co that's all you have to do :) |
| 19:55.11 | JeffM | this is the help patch right? |
| 19:55.27 | Santosh_IIIT | yes |
| 19:55.41 | Santosh_IIIT | I have done another update now -> "Updated to revision 19653." |
| 19:55.48 | JeffM | cool |
| 19:55.50 | Santosh_IIIT | reply. |
| 19:55.56 | JeffM | I'm betting it is your use of STL |
| 19:56.43 | Santosh_IIIT | ok. What alternative can I use in place of what I have done? |
| 19:56.54 | Will07c5 | yeah it gives me errors too |
| 19:57.09 | Santosh_IIIT | my code?(patch)??????????? |
| 19:57.15 | Will07c5 | yeah |
| 19:57.20 | JeffM | why are you so supprised |
| 19:57.21 | JeffM | it happens |
| 19:57.27 | JeffM | I'm checking it out now too |
| 19:57.57 | Santosh_IIIT | cos' I just ran the entire thing using make. Ididnt get any sort of errors |
| 19:58.03 | JeffM | so |
| 19:58.15 | JeffM | your build system and STL libs may not be the same as others |
| 19:58.29 | JeffM | "it works for me" is NOT a valid excuse |
| 19:58.35 | DTRemenak | "works for me" is a first step, not a last one |
| 19:58.41 | JeffM | indeed |
| 19:58.43 | Santosh_IIIT | can you tell me what errors you recieved?So that I can get some idea as to how to modify |
| 19:58.57 | JeffM | Santosh_IIIT: sure, after I see what they are ;) |
| 19:59.04 | JeffM | just chill for a bit |
| 19:59.10 | Santosh_IIIT | yeah |
| 19:59.20 | Santosh_IIIT | I shall wait |
| 20:00.11 | Will07c5 | http://pastebin.com/m50e91e |
| 20:00.11 | JeffM | I mean I see some basic errors right now |
| 20:00.20 | JeffM | std::vector<std::string> HUDRenderer::makeHelpString(const char* help) const |
| 20:00.25 | JeffM | you have that ruturning NULL |
| 20:00.32 | JeffM | NULL is NOT a valid vector |
| 20:00.38 | JeffM | return an empty vector |
| 20:01.37 | JeffM | yeah I don't see HOW this could have compiled for you |
| 20:01.46 | JeffM | unless you are using the wrong branch |
| 20:01.55 | JeffM | and a very poorly configured compiler |
| 20:02.05 | JeffM | are you sure you are compiling the same code you are editing? |
| 20:03.06 | JeffM | you are also using strings that don't exist, like flagHelpBase |
| 20:03.18 | JeffM | you comment it out 3 lines above where you used it |
| 20:03.55 | JeffM | also there is no implicit cast from std::string to const char*, use c_str() |
| 20:04.08 | JeffM | it's almost like you tried to write this in C# not C++ |
| 20:05.04 | JeffM | ok, you could NOT have compiled this |
| 20:05.12 | JeffM | listOfWords is not the same as listofWords |
| 20:05.30 | JeffM | check your dirs and make sure you are building what you are editing. |
| 20:07.19 | Santosh_IIIT | Made all these modifications. |
| 20:07.25 | Santosh_IIIT | shall upload a new patch |
| 20:07.33 | JeffM | well I'd wait a bit |
| 20:07.43 | JeffM | 1) are you SURE that you have compiled this patch |
| 20:07.51 | Santosh_IIIT | The last one -> modified.patch also had these corrections |
| 20:07.56 | JeffM | 2) did you find out why your patch had those errors and you didn't see them before |
| 20:08.04 | JeffM | that's what I used, modfied.patch |
| 20:08.24 | Santosh_IIIT | compiled in the sense -> make |
| 20:08.42 | JeffM | compiled in the sene that it worked and you got no errors |
| 20:08.52 | Santosh_IIIT | yes |
| 20:09.00 | JeffM | it sounds like you are not that familar with C++ and the build system on your OS |
| 20:09.40 | Santosh_IIIT | the thing is I have made these modifications. Just take a look at the latest patch I uplaod |
| 20:10.45 | JeffM | I would if sourceforge wasn't being slow :) |
| 20:11.33 | Santosh_IIIT | I am sorry to say, but it is indeed slow |
| 20:11.47 | JeffM | not your fault |
| 20:12.42 | JeffM | email me your patch Santosh_IIIT jeffm2501+socpatches@gmail.com |
| 20:19.55 | Santosh_IIIT | I sent the patch |
| 20:20.52 | Santosh_IIIT | Pls take a look at that |
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| 20:23.58 | JeffM | Pls is not a real word |
| 20:24.28 | JeffM | it compiles now |
| 20:24.33 | JeffM | ton of warnings, but it compiles |
| 20:24.47 | Santosh_IIIT | ok |
| 20:24.57 | JeffM | vector.size() returns a size_t not an int |
| 20:25.06 | JeffM | as does find |
| 20:25.19 | Santosh_IIIT | ok |
| 20:25.34 | JeffM | DEG2RAD is a double, so when you use it with a float, the result is a double |
| 20:25.47 | JeffM | if you assign that back to a float, there will be warnings. |
| 20:26.02 | JeffM | you probably want to use DEG2RADf |
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| 20:27.17 | Santosh_IIIT | In the basic simple codes that I used to write,I used to overlook generally such typecasting issues and return datatypes |
| 20:27.22 | JeffM | also are your whitespace settings set right? |
| 20:27.44 | Santosh_IIIT | Will work on those areas also from now on |
| 20:29.33 | JeffM | you'll also gety warnings if you compare signed and unsigned values in a test |
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| 20:30.24 | JeffM | the float stuff may not be your code tho |
| 20:30.30 | JeffM | the size_t is |
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| 20:31.55 | Santosh_IIIT | Ok. Will take care of those. |
| 20:32.16 | Santosh_IIIT | I guess I followed to the max the instuctions mentioned in the DEVINFO |
| 20:32.16 | JeffM | linux systems probably won't complain |
| 20:32.19 | JeffM | windows does |
| 20:32.25 | JeffM | cus it cares about 64bit stuff |
| 20:33.40 | Santosh_IIIT | ok. Can you suggest on any other areas to work so that I can improve on them. |
| 20:34.15 | Santosh_IIIT | It's already 2.30 pm for us. Got to go to sleep. Have college tomorrow. |
| 20:34.26 | JeffM | sleep is a good thing to improve on |
| 20:34.32 | JeffM | mostly just don't try to rush |
| 20:34.36 | Santosh_IIIT | thanks. |
| 20:34.45 | JeffM | take it slow, and understand what you are doing |
| 20:35.18 | Santosh_IIIT | I regret as I feel I am behind time |
| 20:35.28 | JeffM | life happens |
| 20:35.35 | JeffM | we all keep on livin ;) |
| 20:35.56 | Santosh_IIIT | ok then . thanks a lot, |
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| 20:49.09 | Will07c5 | I just want to note that I am still planning to spend a bit more time on dead reckoning since there is still the problem I noticed where tanks seem to jerk a bit when they start or stop moving |
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| 21:11.04 | JeffM | well you can't fully get rid of that |
| 21:11.13 | JeffM | that's the lag comp |
| 21:14.00 | JeffM | probably best you can do is smooth it, but I'm not sure that is good, cus it'll be a lie for the few frames where you smooth |
| 21:15.24 | blast007 | what do other games do to handle it? or do they just assume you have low latency? ;) |
| 21:15.34 | JeffM | depends on the game |
| 21:15.35 | JeffM | some pop |
| 21:15.44 | JeffM | some do smothing |
| 21:15.48 | blast007 | I know some FPS games I play really play horrible with any real amount of lag |
| 21:15.56 | JeffM | yeah FPSs do |
| 21:16.05 | JeffM | it all depends on how accurate of a state you need |
| 21:16.32 | JeffM | MMOs pop, beceause accuracy is more important then visual, because you may have area effects |
| 21:16.42 | JeffM | now most of it is mitigated by server side checks |
| 21:16.46 | blast007 | another game I played (a driving combat game) seemed to handle the sim on the server. So there was always a delay before you would turn |
| 21:16.47 | JeffM | that don't really have a lag problem |
| 21:16.55 | JeffM | yeah that's one way |
| 21:16.57 | JeffM | full server input |
| 21:17.27 | JeffM | since death is still on the client, I'd say that accuracy is more imporant then visual smoothness right now |
| 21:17.39 | JeffM | once we have the death on the server, then smoting out pops won't be that big of an issue |
| 21:17.53 | JeffM | as the server will use it's data for checks. |
| 21:19.28 | JeffM | goes to buy foods |
| 21:28.53 | Will07c5 | thanks, I didn't realize that, I guess I'll just work on something else then :) |
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| 22:29.58 | brlcad | trepan: not necessarily all of them, src/3D and src/ogl would seem to be fair game |
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| 23:06.27 | trepan | brlcad: might as well do 'em all |
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| 23:59.30 | catay | ~bzlist |
| 23:59.45 | dexter- | ya |
| 23:59.46 | catay | meh |