| 00:01.47 | Winny | blast007: it runs vista quite well, too |
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| 02:42.41 | short_circuit | .. an aside... Starship Troopers 3 was way better than 2. But not as good as 1. Worth a watch if you loved 1. |
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| 05:24.53 | short_circuit | yes |
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| 05:27.56 | short_circuit | or is it controlpanel.o |
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| 19:31.15 | blast007 | Is there a way on OSX to pass specific paramaters to the 'bzflag' executable besides having to do it via the terminal? (Like how on Windows we can add -badwords to the target of the shortcut) |
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| 19:53.42 | Winny | blast007: don't think so.. but I have an idea |
| 19:55.13 | Winny | hm, guess not |
| 19:56.17 | blast007 | was wondering if there is something in the properties of the .app that could be changed |
| 19:56.41 | Winny | doesn't look like it |
| 19:56.46 | Winny | but I havent googled yet |
| 19:57.39 | Winny | ahh, maybe you can do it via applescript |
| 19:57.46 | Winny | and make a shortcut that runs that applescript |
| 19:59.20 | blast007 | hrm |
| 19:59.27 | blast007 | is that easy to do? |
| 19:59.31 | blast007 | (for a typical user) |
| 20:00.31 | Winny | trying to do it via automator now |
| 20:00.43 | amathis | wishes he had a mac |
| 20:01.17 | amathis | I would love to be able to run all that wonderful software like photoshop, illustrator.. but I refuse to install windows ever again |
| 20:01.34 | Winny | good choice :p |
| 20:02.05 | amathis | I mean, don't get me wrong... if some of the big corps like adobe started supporting linux I would never leave |
| 20:36.22 | temp_dist | amathis: once you get into the apps, Photoshop, Illustrator, etc are essentially the same on either platform |
| 20:36.43 | temp_dist | some support stuff is still better on OSX tho - like font handling |
| 20:37.15 | temp_dist | Adobe replaced the Open/Save dialog with a custom one on Win - so it's more like OSX |
| 20:37.54 | amathis | I would just like to run the product itself, but I refuse to run windows in general |
| 20:39.22 | temp_dist | cough*hackintosh*cough |
| 20:40.00 | blast007 | you should really get that cough looked at. ;) |
| 20:40.17 | temp_dist | just getting over the cold :) |
| 20:41.01 | blast007 | I've been thinking about getting another mac.. |
| 20:53.38 | BulletCatcher | On MacOS it shouldn't be too hard to write a clickable shell script that executes BZFlag with the desired parameters. |
| 20:56.22 | blast007 | k |
| 21:12.32 | BulletCatcher | Or maybe not. A simple shell script that works fine from the command line apparently needs something else to work when clicked. |
| 21:13.04 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: doesn't execute? |
| 21:13.33 | BulletCatcher | A dialog pops up asking what application to use. |
| 21:14.02 | blast007 | hmm |
| 21:14.31 | blast007 | did it have a .sh extension? (and chmod'ed to be executable?) |
| 21:15.57 | BulletCatcher | It is mode 755 (i.e., executable) but a .sh extension (and no extension at all) does not help. |
| 21:16.15 | blast007 | try using .command instead |
| 21:16.48 | temp_dist | here's a technote http://developer.apple.com/DOCUMENTATION/Porting/Conceptual/PortingUnix/unix_environments/chapter_7_section_8.html |
| 21:17.11 | BulletCatcher | That works, although it leave a Terminal window open after quitting. |
| 21:17.55 | blast007 | maybe I'll just write a C# launcher application and make them install mono ;D |
| 21:18.00 | blast007 | (only half kidding) |
| 21:19.13 | BulletCatcher | Flash ought to know how to do this. Maybe he'll chime in at some point. |
| 21:19.45 | blast007 | easy to do on linux (just have to edit the launcher) |
| 21:19.54 | blast007 | s/linux/Gnome/ at least |
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| 21:48.24 | a_meteorite | blast007: uh yeah, you'd need a .sh/.command (which opens Terminal, but it should close the window when done, not necessarily Terminal itself) |
| 21:48.39 | a_meteorite | Applescript should be able to do it without anything opening |
| 21:49.08 | blast007 | yup, I'm just including a note that they can probably do it that way |
| 21:49.16 | a_meteorite | command line arguments likely seems foreign to Apple |
| 21:49.53 | a_meteorite | "if it's not GUI-able, it's useless" |
| 21:49.58 | Winny | ;D |
| 21:50.00 | a_meteorite | wtf http://i.gizmodo.com/5158138/obamas-pick-for-anti+trust-chief-sees-google-as-a-monopolist-threat |
| 21:50.36 | a_meteorite | listen up obama underlings, Google is not evil. Microsoft is. |
| 21:50.43 | a_meteorite | wait until Google is evil |
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| 22:34.57 | blast007 | for those interested: http://bzexcess.com/2009/02/bztips-1-client-side-chat-filtering/ |
| 22:54.17 | BulletCatcher | A postscript to yesterday's ATI driver discussion: The version 9.2 installer from ati.amd.com installs the 8.582 driver, which is only slightly newer than the 8.573 driver currently available in the Fedora 10 fglrx RPM from rpmfusion.org. |
| 22:54.24 | BulletCatcher | Furthermore, the ATI installer bombed out and left the system in a state where X didn't work at all. |
| 22:54.27 | BulletCatcher | Although the ATI driver from rpmfusion.org nearly doubles the glxgears frame rate, with the ATI Radeon HD 2400 XP video card BZFlag 2.x still gets only 20-40 FPS on a simple map in a 640x480 window. |
| 22:58.32 | blast007 | fun |
| 23:00.24 | a_meteorite | oh wait... |
| 23:00.29 | BulletCatcher | It'll have to do. Next I'll install 32-bit Fedora 10 to test my hypothesis about getting sealed in teleporters. |
| 23:00.39 | a_meteorite | er, this is #bzflag. I did not mean to post that gizmodo link. way offtopic. |
| 23:00.51 | a_meteorite | for some reason I thought I was in ##pm |
| 23:01.52 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: okay |
| 23:02.09 | blast007 | suppose I could try 64-bit Ubuntu as well ;) |
| 23:03.18 | BulletCatcher | I configured the disk on this system with 5 different root partitions, so I will be able to test other distros too if needed. |
| 23:04.57 | blast007 | has spare drives laying around |
| 23:05.15 | TD-Linux | blast007, I never knew of that feature |
| 23:05.27 | TD-Linux | promptly blocks all mentions of 'fish' from his client |
| 23:05.52 | blast007 | lol |
| 23:08.46 | TD-Linux | ohloh is either fail or BZFlag is extremely diverse http://www.ohloh.net/p/bzflag/analyses/latest |
| 23:09.05 | TD-Linux | XSLT??? |
| 23:12.45 | blast007 | TD-Linux: http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/trunk/bzflag/doc/ |
| 23:14.09 | blast007 | file hasn't been edited it over 5 years ;) |
| 23:14.13 | blast007 | in* |
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