| 00:01.55 | Erroneous | one for the master, one for the dame |
| 00:06.22 | me1 | one for the boy who lives in the lane |
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| 01:39.02 | iShock | Hey guys, how can I +f good without them spawning on boxes? |
| 01:39.14 | TD--Linux | don't use -sb |
| 01:39.21 | TD--Linux | actually |
| 01:39.28 | TD--Linux | I think there is a different option |
| 01:39.33 | TD--Linux | but IIRC they don't spawn on boxes by default |
| 01:39.43 | iShock | Can I PM you? |
| 01:44.02 | TD--Linux | why? |
| 01:44.12 | TD--Linux | of course you can, but why not on this channel? |
| 01:46.36 | iShock | Don't need to any more, and damn, I forgot how to set a password. |
| 01:46.48 | iShock | -passwd, that's it. |
| 01:47.48 | iShock | One more question .. How can I make it check if users are registered? |
| 01:48.29 | joevano | what do you want to check for? |
| 01:48.57 | iShock | If the callsigns are registered, give em a + .. I think it's soemthing to do with -publiclist? |
| 01:49.21 | joevano | that happens automatically if you register the server on the list |
| 01:49.30 | joevano | with -publiclist |
| 01:49.30 | iShock | If it's not a public server? |
| 01:50.09 | joevano | then you wouldn't be using our auth so there really isn't a way to check |
| 01:50.32 | TD--Linux | you can use auth still |
| 01:50.32 | iShock | Alrighty. |
| 01:50.38 | TD--Linux | you use -publiclist |
| 01:50.40 | TD--Linux | however |
| 01:50.53 | TD--Linux | you need to set the visible group to NOBODY |
| 01:50.55 | TD--Linux | let me look this up |
| 01:51.05 | me1 | there is a way to make it public, but not on the server list, just set it up how it would normaly be public (ie, port forward) and then add -advertise none |
| 01:51.08 | iShock | It's okay, not that important. |
| 01:51.25 | TD--Linux | yeah me1 has it right |
| 01:51.27 | me1 | -advertise none only "advertises" the server on the list to the group "none" which has noone in it |
| 01:51.36 | me1 | you can change it you your group of choise, if you want |
| 01:51.40 | TD--Linux | sure it's none and not NOBODY? |
| 01:51.45 | me1 | it's none |
| 01:51.47 | iShock | me1, -publiclist -advertise none? |
| 01:51.48 | TD--Linux | okay |
| 01:52.08 | me1 | iShock, well, to have global identification, you need to have it set up like a public server |
| 01:52.20 | TD--Linux | I assume he is |
| 01:52.29 | me1 | and then just stick "-advertise none" in the conf |
| 01:52.42 | me1 | if you are runnign a lan game, no luck |
| 01:52.42 | TD--Linux | -advertise implies -publiclist iirc |
| 01:52.52 | me1 | -publiclist is not needed |
| 01:53.01 | me1 | it simple states what list to use |
| 01:53.07 | me1 | which is the correct one by default |
| 01:56.43 | iShock | Okay, how do I /admin, it says unknown command D: |
| 01:57.02 | me1 | /admin is not a commmand |
| 01:57.07 | me1 | its /password <your password> |
| 01:57.10 | iShock | Oh. |
| 01:57.12 | iShock | duh |
| 01:57.14 | iShock | Sorry :( |
| 01:57.29 | me1 | and, i think it's -password, not -passwd |
| 01:57.34 | me1 | may be wrong, though |
| 02:00.29 | TD--Linux | you are |
| 02:02.17 | me1 | dang :9 |
| 02:05.23 | me1 | heh, its funny how one shift can change a meaning so much |
| 02:05.28 | me1 | :( |
| 02:05.29 | me1 | :9 |
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| 06:31.37 | Ebert | any mofo ppl awake? |
| 06:32.00 | Ebert | there's a cheater Illuminati on planetmofo, quite annoying if interested |
| 06:32.04 | Ebert | ho hum |
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| 07:15.32 | temp_dist | delusional_: already done |
| 07:15.36 | Ebert | ah delusional_ someone already caught him and updated banlist |
| 07:15.38 | Ebert | yea |
| 07:15.45 | delusional_ | k |
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| 15:57.51 | Digital_Pioneer | Hi. I have BZF 2.0.10, and I can't connect to any server. I can get the server list, but when I try to connect to an individual server, it immediately says "Server not found". I wonder if my network is blocking the port, and if so, (how) can I bypass it? |
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| 16:22.15 | BulletCatcher | The "Server not found" message indicates that bzflag cannot resolve the IP address of the server's host name. That's odd because apparently it *can* get to the list server itself. |
| 16:23.59 | BulletCatcher | Which server would you like to connect to? |
| 16:34.54 | Digital_Pioneer | BulletCatcher: Any of the above... :P |
| 16:36.04 | BulletCatcher | ~dns 02.bztank.net |
| 16:36.48 | BulletCatcher | Okay, enter 91.186.11.93 on the Server line and 5155 for the port, if that works, then you have some kind of DNS problem. |
| 16:37.37 | Digital_Pioneer | BulletCatcher: Error connecting to server |
| 16:38.03 | Digital_Pioneer | But not immediately. |
| 16:38.20 | BulletCatcher | It's probably a firewall problem, then. |
| 16:39.35 | Digital_Pioneer | Probably. |
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| 18:06.32 | MindstormsKid | Is "flipZ" a valid option for meshpyras and such? |
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| 18:08.56 | JeffM | I don't think so |
| 18:09.12 | JeffM | you can try negitive scale, or just define a mesh that is an upside down pyramid |
| 18:09.29 | MindstormsKid | hmm ok |
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| 18:16.37 | L4m3r | or you can spin it |
| 18:17.30 | L4m3r | wouldn't a negative scale turn it inside out? eh, well, I guess you could do it in two directions |
| 18:19.44 | JeffM | no it dosn't |
| 18:19.51 | JeffM | I added a detection for that |
| 18:20.42 | MindstormsKid | wishes you could just do flipZ like with normal pyras |
| 18:21.03 | JeffM | you'll live |
| 18:23.02 | L4m3r | the old style 1.x syntax is limiting |
| 18:23.17 | L4m3r | the newer transforms are much more versatile- learn to use them well |
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| 18:27.01 | JeffM | or just define a mesh |
| 18:27.07 | JeffM | you can do anything with a mesh |
| 18:27.12 | MindstormsKid | :P |
| 18:27.33 | JeffM | at some point I want the actual map file to just be mesh faces |
| 18:27.42 | JeffM | then the client and server have less to read |
| 18:27.49 | MindstormsKid | speaking of meshes... |
| 18:27.53 | JeffM | then the primitives will just be things for the various tools |
| 18:28.10 | MindstormsKid | i need to change http://pastebin.com/d7d4c696b to a mesh |
| 18:28.36 | JeffM | arcs are meshes |
| 18:28.37 | L4m3r | JeffM: then all we need is a good editor |
| 18:28.49 | JeffM | L4m3r, or a tool that just burns old objects into meshes :) |
| 18:28.54 | L4m3r | with plugins for different types of objects |
| 18:29.05 | JeffM | L4m3r, we have it, it just needs to be finished |
| 18:29.07 | MindstormsKid | i want to be able to make the ratio an actual length, not a percent |
| 18:29.08 | L4m3r | so people can create new primitives |
| 18:29.20 | JeffM | MindstormsKid, that's because it's a ratio |
| 18:29.23 | JeffM | not a distance |
| 18:29.25 | L4m3r | MindstormsKid: then use a calculator |
| 18:29.38 | JeffM | or a modeler |
| 18:29.46 | L4m3r | if you want your maps to line up right, you need to do some math :P |
| 18:29.50 | MindstormsKid | L4m3r: But I have a script making about 80 of those. |
| 18:29.58 | JeffM | Winny, you around? |
| 18:30.00 | L4m3r | that's even easier |
| 18:30.43 | L4m3r | just have it calculate the ratio on the fly... all you need is the desired inner and outer diameter |
| 18:31.09 | MindstormsKid | http://pastebin.com/m32e7e015 Thta's the script |
| 18:31.11 | MindstormsKid | *Thats |
| 18:31.26 | MindstormsKid | It's in Javascript :P |
| 18:31.32 | JeffM | then fix it |
| 18:31.48 | MindstormsKid | JeffM: Fix? |
| 18:31.53 | JeffM | make it do what you want |
| 18:32.11 | JeffM | does it do what you want right now? |
| 18:32.17 | L4m3r | are... are you generating maps with javascript? |
| 18:32.44 | MindstormsKid | L4m3r: Yea. :D |
| 18:32.46 | L4m3r | that's a new one |
| 18:32.49 | CBG | Javascript? heh |
| 18:32.51 | MindstormsKid | JeffM: Sorta. |
| 18:33.01 | JeffM | MindstormsKid, so then the answer is no |
| 18:33.02 | JeffM | it is not |
| 18:33.07 | JeffM | make your script do what you want |
| 18:33.23 | JeffM | the ratio is not defined as a distance |
| 18:33.29 | MindstormsKid | I know |
| 18:33.36 | JeffM | if you want to input a distance to your script then you have to make it compute the ratio |
| 18:33.39 | JeffM | it's just math |
| 18:33.50 | L4m3r | yup |
| 18:33.52 | MindstormsKid | is bad at math |
| 18:34.04 | L4m3r | don't worry, your computer is quite good at it |
| 18:34.06 | CBG | It's simple math most kids can do aged 5. |
| 18:34.14 | MindstormsKid | CBG: O_o |
| 18:34.56 | CBG | If your arc radius is 10 units, and you want the solid part of the arc to be 3 units thick, 3/10 = 0.3 = your ratio. |
| 18:35.14 | MindstormsKid | O_O |
| 18:35.17 | MindstormsKid | trys |
| 18:35.29 | CBG | What's complex about that? |
| 18:35.43 | CBG | You never did division on a calculator before? |
| 18:35.44 | JeffM | mom dosn't go over much math with you does she? |
| 18:37.45 | MindstormsKid | CBG: It's not, I'm just bad at figuring out how it should be done... |
| 18:39.20 | JeffM | then you didn't read the wiki? |
| 18:39.21 | JeffM | ratiodefines the ratio to make a hollow arc, the parameter is (outrad - inrad) / outrad. |
| 18:39.33 | JeffM | it gives you the formula right there |
| 18:40.50 | L4m3r | lordy, I hope we don't end up teaching this kid trig >_< |
| 18:41.36 | tsykoduk | teaching trig is easier then working out a bug in a C url parser! |
| 18:42.12 | MindstormsKid | XD |
| 18:42.13 | CBG | http://www.amazon.com/Trigonometry-Dummies-Math-Science/dp/0764569031 It's in stock...! |
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| 18:58.57 | KTL | JeffM, do you know anything about k-dop bounding volumes perhaps? :) |
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| 19:46.55 | blast007 | JeffM: hehe, that poor guy with the low FPS has an Intel 810 graphics chip ;) |
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| 19:50.13 | me1 | " |
| 19:50.13 | me1 | Upgraded the amount of RAM to 512 MB. " |
| 19:50.27 | me1 | that's kinda not alot |
| 19:53.19 | a_meteorite | s/kinda// |
| 19:58.29 | blast007 | me1: that's the max it can take |
| 19:58.37 | blast007 | same with my i810 chipset system |
| 19:59.07 | blast007 | it's an old, low end chipset |
| 20:03.31 | blast007 | that system originally came with Windows Me (same as mine) ;D |
| 20:03.54 | me1 | scary |
| 20:04.06 | blast007 | oo, and I didn't even notice, but he doesn't even have a full PIII.. it's a Celeron 733 |
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| 20:28.29 | MindstormsKid | CBG: Thanks, I finally figured out what you said, now it works. :D |
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| 20:42.03 | corndawg | heyas folks |
| 20:42.16 | corndawg | is it possible to upload bzfs only to the shell? |
| 20:42.29 | brlcad | what does that mean? |
| 20:42.44 | corndawg | upload the game server only |
| 20:43.12 | brlcad | that makes no sense .. upload what? what shell? |
| 20:44.32 | rowrbazzle | I think he means upload only the bzfs binary onto a server |
| 20:44.50 | corndawg | thank you rowrbazzle |
| 20:45.38 | rowrbazzle | well yes, as long as the relevant libraries are there |
| 20:45.52 | corndawg | k |
| 20:46.03 | rowrbazzle | "ldd bzfs" to see what libraries it's linked against |
| 20:46.17 | corndawg | k |
| 20:47.21 | brlcad | yeah, that's pretty straightforward -- and if you compile static, it should just work too |
| 20:47.58 | brlcad | just a matter of whether the server and your system have compatible system libraries and the architectures are compatible (both 32-bit for example) |
| 20:52.01 | JeffM | KTL, not really |
| 20:52.03 | JeffM | blast007, eww |
| 20:54.46 | blast007 | ;) |
| 20:55.09 | JeffM | I'm suprised he gets as high FPS as he does |
| 20:55.19 | blast007 | yeah |
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| 21:17.38 | Cobra_Fast | hey people, great news!!!! |
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| 21:17.54 | Cobra_Fast | I just released Web BZFS Manager RC4 under GPL |
| 21:17.56 | Cobra_Fast | See http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=131009#131009 |
| 21:18.29 | Cobra_Fast | there will be a non-working demo soon |
| 21:25.25 | Cobra_Fast | Or try out the demo: http://wtwrp.doenemeier.de/wbzfsm_demo/ |
| 21:25.27 | Cobra_Fast | ;o) |
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| 21:56.07 | brlcad | Cobra_Fast: cool |
| 21:56.16 | Cobra_Fast | brlcad: i know |
| 21:56.20 | Cobra_Fast | thx |
| 21:56.21 | Cobra_Fast | ! |
| 21:58.04 | brlcad | so what's your next plan for it? |
| 21:58.20 | Cobra_Fast | wait for feedback, and make it better |
| 21:58.27 | Cobra_Fast | with the feedback |
| 21:58.29 | brlcad | good plan :) |
| 21:59.10 | me1 | Have you thought about making some sort of way to manage servers via internet, like other people have tried/are trying? |
| 22:00.39 | JeffM | me1, do you mean like bzadmin admin? or start and stop them? |
| 22:01.06 | me1 | Like what masterbot and someone here was/are trying to do |
| 22:01.06 | Cobra_Fast | Web BZFS Manager is not for administering running servers |
| 22:01.28 | JeffM | me1, so you mean doing stuff for kicks/ bans ,etc.. |
| 22:01.54 | me1 | yeah, since it seems popular it seems to be a nice thing to add |
| 22:01.55 | TD--Linux | Cobra_Fast, much better than my attempt at that :P |
| 22:01.55 | Cobra_Fast | that for there is a project calles "Web BZAdmin" i think |
| 22:01.56 | JeffM | Cobra_Fast, if the server is 3.0 you should have it have a link to webadmin on each server :) |
| 22:02.13 | JeffM | Cobra_Fast, no it's called webadmin and it's a plugin in 3.0 |
| 22:02.22 | Cobra_Fast | ohhh cool |
| 22:02.34 | Cobra_Fast | [ 230149 ] [ @JeffM ] +Cobra_Fast, if the server is 3.0 you should have it have a link to webadmin on each server :) <- i dont get your point |
| 22:02.34 | JeffM | lets you manage a running server via HTTP over the game port |
| 22:02.48 | JeffM | your system lets you manage each server right? |
| 22:02.54 | JeffM | like start/stop, etc.. |
| 22:02.57 | Cobra_Fast | yeah |
| 22:02.59 | JeffM | show there status |
| 22:03.10 | Cobra_Fast | but not ingame commands or so |
| 22:03.14 | JeffM | for each server put a link to http://serverhost:port/webadmin/ |
| 22:03.27 | Cobra_Fast | there will be the webadmin plugin then? |
| 22:03.30 | JeffM | then that will let them click that and go directly to the webadmin system |
| 22:03.35 | blast007 | Cobra_Fast: there is already |
| 22:03.39 | blast007 | for 2.99.x |
| 22:03.40 | JeffM | webamin exists |
| 22:03.42 | JeffM | and is done |
| 22:03.44 | JeffM | works fine |
| 22:03.47 | Cobra_Fast | but not 2.0.x |
| 22:03.49 | JeffM | no |
| 22:03.50 | blast007 | no |
| 22:04.00 | Cobra_Fast | Web BZFS Manager RC was not testet with 2.99.x |
| 22:04.07 | TD--Linux | it will work |
| 22:04.11 | JeffM | Cobra_Fast, I know thats why I said, FOR 3.0 |
| 22:04.18 | Cobra_Fast | OK |
| 22:04.31 | JeffM | then you'll have a link to the internal management of each server |
| 22:04.34 | blast007 | TD--Linux: probably, but some stuff has changed |
| 22:04.52 | Cobra_Fast | ill have to do a version for 3.0 then |
| 22:04.58 | blast007 | TD--Linux: like no local auth, and I know some other command line options were removed/renamed |
| 22:05.09 | JeffM | 2.0.x can't listen for anything other then bzflag traffic on the game port, so webadmin can't be backported |
| 22:06.16 | Cobra_Fast | so i did a new thing in good quality thats also useful with WBZFSM? |
| 22:06.25 | TD-Linux | yup, congrats :D |
| 22:06.31 | Cobra_Fast | THANKS!!! |
| 22:06.37 | Cobra_Fast | wow im proud of myself :] |
| 22:07.03 | JeffM | me1, the guy was asking how the game compensates for lag, not how YOU compensate for lag on the boards. |
| 22:07.11 | me1 | ahh |
| 22:07.14 | me1 | sorry |
| 22:07.47 | Cobra_Fast | so guys, have fun with WBZFSM, im going to bed now, its late here |
| 22:07.50 | me1 | thanks for deleting it :) |
| 22:07.50 | Cobra_Fast | gn8! |
| 22:07.55 | JeffM | me1, sure |
| 22:08.03 | JeffM | it's actualy going to screw some people up in 3.0 |
| 22:08.16 | JeffM | the fact that you DON'T compensate for lag with aim |
| 22:10.19 | blast007 | JeffM: (going off the conversation from yesterday) in 3.0, if someone has 500ms of lag, and they are 510ms of shot travel time away from you when they fire, will you only have 10ms to react? or will you appear to have 510ms? |
| 22:10.41 | JeffM | the shot will appear 10ms away from you |
| 22:10.50 | blast007 | :/ |
| 22:10.50 | JeffM | as it will comp it the distance it WOULD have flown in transit |
| 22:11.03 | JeffM | yeah I can't make high lag not suck |
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| 22:11.11 | JeffM | not and keep everyone consistnet |
| 22:12.56 | JeffM | that is unless you want to go turn based? |
| 22:15.50 | joevano | oooooohhhhh... i like turn based war games.. anyone here use to play Advanced Squad Leader ;) |
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| 22:19.41 | emma | Hi. |
| 22:19.51 | emma | Could anyone tell me what's up with this error -- |
| 22:19.59 | emma | em@leibniz:~$ bzflag |
| 22:19.59 | emma | X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) Major opcode of failed request: 134 (XFree86-VidModeExtension) Minor opcode of failed request: 10 (XF86VidModeSwitchToMode) Value in failed request: 0x83 Serial number of failed request: 148 Current serial number in output stream: 150 |
| 22:20.12 | JeffM | what video card do you have? |
| 22:20.30 | emma | /bin/sh: -i: not found |
| 22:20.50 | emma | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c) |
| 22:20.54 | JeffM | basicly your video driver dosn't want to change modes |
| 22:20.56 | JeffM | ewwwwwww |
| 22:20.59 | JeffM | I am so sorry |
| 22:21.14 | Erroneous | heh |
| 22:21.14 | JeffM | run bzflag -window -geometry 640x480 |
| 22:21.22 | JeffM | see if that helps |
| 22:21.43 | emma | wait, I did that with /exec -o in irssi and I just now remembered i have irssi running on a different computer. It's an irssi server.. |
| 22:21.55 | JeffM | should not mater |
| 22:22.01 | JeffM | ahh |
| 22:22.08 | JeffM | yeah that's a common server ship |
| 22:22.10 | JeffM | chip |
| 22:22.10 | emma | It matters because I found the video card of the lesser computer. |
| 22:22.12 | Erroneous | that would matter |
| 22:22.15 | JeffM | yeah |
| 22:22.21 | emma | i'll get the real one.. .one sec. |
| 22:22.35 | emma | 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series] |
| 22:22.46 | emma | That's the one on the computer I tried to run bzflag on |
| 22:22.49 | JeffM | laptop? |
| 22:22.54 | emma | nope desktop. |
| 22:23.00 | JeffM | then I am sorry again |
| 22:23.05 | JeffM | try the same command line |
| 22:23.07 | Erroneous | onboard desktop...RS not RV |
| 22:23.13 | emma | Not your fault. |
| 22:23.22 | JeffM | basicly we ask your video card to change resolutions and it won't |
| 22:23.30 | emma | Do you have any recommendations for a decent video card that would likely work well on kubuntu? |
| 22:25.14 | JeffM | I prefer nvidia |
| 22:25.18 | JeffM | they seem to have better drivers |
| 22:25.28 | JeffM | what drivers are you using now? |
| 22:25.52 | Erroneous | nvidia's recent cards are still the best bet on linux at the moment. if you can find an ati card that is well-supported by the radeonhd drivers that's another option, but fglrx pretty much sucks. |
| 22:26.07 | JeffM | and DRI sucks worse |
| 22:27.12 | emma | doing bzflag -window -geometry 640x480 actually started the game, but it had the undesirable affect of capturing the mouse (i could not move the mouse pointer outside of the window the game was in not even to the frame to close it or resize it. |
| 22:27.24 | TD-Linux | fglrx isn't so bad anymore |
| 22:27.28 | JeffM | you can turn that off in game |
| 22:27.53 | emma | Okay so you can sort of get into it and then change it once you are in it? |
| 22:27.59 | emma | I'll try that |
| 22:28.01 | Erroneous | dri is a transparent layer which supports both direct and indirect rendering...it's the indirect rendering that sucks. there are good 3d drivers which require dri (radeonhd, and the intel opensource drivers, for instance). |
| 22:28.17 | Erroneous | nvidia goes around it because it's too hard to do binary compatibility for |
| 22:28.24 | TD-Linux | I need to figure out how to write a DRI / DRM driver |
| 22:28.44 | Erroneous | and fglrx still sucks |
| 22:29.07 | Erroneous | is the proud owner of a 3450 that fglrx refuses to accelerate properly, but will gladly crash x on... |
| 22:29.45 | JeffM | but will it work with radeonHD? ;) |
| 22:29.57 | Erroneous | no :) |
| 22:30.24 | JeffM | 8600GS works fine with nvida driver :) |
| 22:30.31 | Erroneous | get a black screen with radeonhd. but it doesn't crash, even when I run glxgears on my black screen |
| 22:30.50 | TD-Linux | JeffM, mine works pretty good too |
| 22:30.56 | TD-Linux | however suspend doesn't work :( |
| 22:31.11 | Erroneous | my 9600GT works awesomely with nvidia's drivers |
| 22:31.22 | TD-Linux | actually it used to, but it's gotten more and more broken |
| 22:31.22 | Erroneous | even multiple monitors, compositing, the whole nine yards |
| 22:31.54 | TD-Linux | now I resume, it appears fine, then the nvidia driver desides to mode change, then mode change again, then switch to VT, then switch back, mode change, and then hang |
| 22:32.58 | TD-Linux | I blame some of that on my distro though, it's probably all my fault |
| 22:33.05 | Erroneous | fglrx conveniently crashes x when I resume |
| 22:36.52 | Erroneous | I'd gladly blame my distro for some of it, except that I am using the same basic setup for both machines, most of it homegrown. |
| 22:36.53 | Erroneous | vanilla kernel and xorg. would kind of expect that to be a supported configuration. |
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| 23:36.24 | KTL | new to me: a bzfs server that promotes cheating by advertising that one blog |
| 23:36.48 | KTL | it's at wtwrp.doenemeier.de:50020 |
| 23:52.30 | JeffM | not anymore :) |