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| 07:18.01 | ashgadgets | heya |
| 07:18.13 | ashgadgets | anyone around? |
| 07:19.20 | ashgadgets | i need help |
| 07:29.34 | ruskie | ashgadgets, with what... you still haven't specified what your issue is or anything else for that matter... |
| 07:29.45 | ruskie | asking to ask is useless on irc |
| 07:29.47 | ruskie | ask and idle... |
| 07:29.56 | ruskie | then maybe someone will respond when they get the time |
| 07:30.13 | ashgadgets | my bzfs got lost |
| 07:30.20 | ashgadgets | i installed the 2.99 |
| 07:30.36 | ashgadgets | and i cant seem to recover bzfs2006 |
| 07:30.57 | ruskie | erm |
| 07:31.17 | ashgadgets | i did apt-get remove bzflag-server |
| 07:31.29 | ashgadgets | i did apt-get install bzflag-server after that too |
| 07:33.23 | ashgadgets | any thing that can be done? |
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| 07:34.12 | ashgadgets | heya rb |
| 07:34.19 | a_meteorite | bzfx hosts servers |
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| 07:42.37 | ashgadgets | back |
| 07:43.01 | ashgadgets | any help?? |
| 07:44.58 | ashgadgets | i installed the 2.99 |
| 07:45.11 | ashgadgets | my bzfs got lost |
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| 08:06.11 | CIA-38 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r18823 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/HUDNavigationQueue.h: An unsigned int is not always big enough to fill a size_t. |
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| 08:17.32 | CIA-38 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r18824 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/Player.cxx: Print conflicting timestamps instead of calling assert(), which would fire at spawn time. |
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| 08:23.07 | BulletCatcher | To see the timestamp difference that r18824 will print, wait at least 30 seconds after joining the server before spawning. |
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| 08:24.58 | ashgadgets | bullet! |
| 08:25.04 | ashgadgets | i need help |
| 08:25.09 | ashgadgets | my bzfs is gone |
| 08:25.15 | ashgadgets | :( |
| 08:25.19 | BulletCatcher | Where was it? |
| 08:27.07 | BulletCatcher | Reading back, I see you reinstalled bzflag-server. Is the file not there now? |
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| 08:45.59 | ashgadgets | no |
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| 11:38.09 | ashgadgets | heya all |
| 11:38.18 | ashgadgets | BZ you around? |
| 11:41.35 | ashgadgets | BC aroud??? |
| 11:41.42 | ashgadgets | any one around?????? |
| 11:45.15 | Manu | no |
| 11:45.31 | ashgadgets | you again? lol! |
| 11:45.38 | Manu | no :) |
| 11:45.45 | ashgadgets | :) |
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| 12:11.21 | thresh | hai |
| 12:12.15 | ashgadgets | hai |
| 12:12.24 | thresh | oh well, 2.0.12. |
| 12:12.33 | ashgadgets | i am on 2.99! |
| 12:12.46 | thresh | something i wouldnt like for a stable distro! |
| 12:13.00 | ashgadgets | :) |
| 12:13.08 | thresh | lets look if gcc 4.3 build problems are fixed there. |
| 12:13.26 | ashgadgets | which distro |
| 12:13.30 | thresh | alt linux |
| 12:14.56 | ashgadgets | alt??? |
| 12:16.34 | thresh | alt |
| 12:19.11 | thresh | why? |
| 12:21.28 | Manu | thresh: gcc 4.3 compiles fine AFAIL ;) |
| 12:21.49 | Manu | AFAIK* |
| 12:21.59 | thresh | sweet, building the package now to test :) |
| 12:25.57 | thresh | yeah, built just fine! |
| 12:26.19 | ashgadgets | congrats, hf |
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| 13:07.00 | brlcad | woo hoo |
| 13:07.11 | brlcad | JBdiGriz: I got it to work cleanly |
| 13:07.36 | brlcad | figured out the underlying problem.. we have too many things that were trying to track the display state |
| 13:07.47 | Manu | ~coffee brlcad |
| 13:07.47 | ibot | ACTION steals some of CIA-38's special coffee and gives it to brlcad on a silver platter. |
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| 17:07.10 | Winny | hmm - coverflow in finder won't show any images... just the "JPG" or "PNG" logo |
| 17:09.20 | Winny | logs out and back in |
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| 17:16.48 | joevano | JeffM: support for images from non bzflag.org domains in 3.0 was dropped, correct |
| 17:16.58 | JeffM | yes |
| 17:17.23 | JeffM | 3.0 by default only has *images.bzflag.org in the list of accepted hosts |
| 17:17.48 | JeffM | and we are in the process of getting rid of all the existing third party .org domains |
| 17:17.54 | delusional | what happens to downloadaccess.txt? |
| 17:17.54 | JeffM | they are being converted to .net now |
| 17:18.02 | JeffM | delusional, it's still there |
| 17:18.06 | JeffM | it just has a different default |
| 17:18.10 | delusional | ok |
| 17:18.40 | blast007 | JeffM: should we have a different file for 3.0? |
| 17:18.47 | blast007 | or place it inside the 3.0 folder? |
| 17:18.54 | JeffM | blast007, why? |
| 17:19.12 | blast007 | the default for 2.0.x allows bzflag.bz stuff too, right? |
| 17:19.18 | JeffM | the old configs will be taken care of by us removing the domains |
| 17:19.27 | JeffM | yeah |
| 17:19.34 | blast007 | are those being removed? |
| 17:19.37 | JeffM | those will be reighned in too |
| 17:19.40 | JeffM | they should be |
| 17:19.48 | JeffM | but yeah we could do a new file |
| 17:19.51 | JeffM | that would be fine |
| 17:20.06 | JeffM | you totaly should have gone to the summit blast007 |
| 17:20.12 | blast007 | heh |
| 17:20.20 | JeffM | there's a project you should work on that we could use |
| 17:20.25 | delusional | i was thinking about writing a wiki page about image downloads, we'll see how well i can conform to conventions. |
| 17:20.32 | JeffM | image submiter on sterioids |
| 17:20.57 | JeffM | we actualy showed off your submiter |
| 17:21.08 | JeffM | in one session |
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| 17:51.59 | JBdiGriz | brlcad: Cool! Have you checked that change in? I'll check it out |
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| 19:01.09 | MindstormsKid | where can i gte bzmapper? |
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| 19:17.13 | trepan | http://trepan.bzflag.bz/bzmapper-g2.3-src-exe.zip |
| 19:17.35 | MindstormsKid | thanks |
| 19:18.43 | MindstormsKid | erk it's not visual?? O_O |
| 19:19.18 | trepan | and not 2.0 aware |
| 19:19.42 | trepan | and, hasn't been dev'ed since 2005 ;-) |
| 19:20.03 | MindstormsKid | ;p |
| 19:20.27 | MindstormsKid | what does "shear" do? it's not explained on the wiki |
| 19:22.08 | trepan | http://koti.kapsi.fi/jpa/stuff/bzw/transformations.php -- found this via the wiki |
| 19:22.33 | trepan | didn't read it -- can't guarantee the content |
| 19:23.28 | MindstormsKid | ~shear |
| 19:23.28 | ibot | methinks shear is a deformation of an object in which parallel planes remain parallel but are shifted in a direction parallel to themselves |
| 19:23.34 | MindstormsKid | :D |
| 19:25.22 | MindstormsKid | wait... /what/?! |
| 19:25.25 | MindstormsKid | O_O |
| 19:25.40 | MindstormsKid | hmmMMM |
| 19:26.00 | MindstormsKid | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:35.32 | MindstormsKid | anyone feel like making a uss enterprise (star trek) and/or a droid gunship? |
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| 19:38.42 | MPS__ | is the list server down? |
| 19:39.03 | MindstormsKid | not for me |
| 19:39.26 | MPS__ | hmm |
| 19:39.27 | MPS__ | nk |
| 19:39.29 | MPS__ | k |
| 19:39.39 | MindstormsKid | :P |
| 19:39.43 | MindstormsKid | ~n |
| 19:39.44 | ibot | methinks n is the disease bzflag players get when they play too much. There is no cure. |
| 19:39.59 | blast007 | MPS__: does this work for you? http://my.bzflag.org/db/?action=LIST |
| 19:40.15 | MPS__ | blast007: yes |
| 19:40.28 | MPS__ | doesn't matter |
| 19:40.30 | blast007 | k, that's the same thing the client reads |
| 19:40.33 | MPS__ | still doesnt work in bzflag |
| 19:40.37 | MPS__ | dunno |
| 19:40.55 | MPS__ | but i know the server adresses by heart ::) |
| 19:40.58 | blast007 | sounds like a firewall issue then |
| 19:41.28 | MPS__ | hmm, but why can my browser access the list!? |
| 19:41.59 | MindstormsKid | oohh talking about the listserver... how/why are the server names differently colored? |
| 19:41.59 | MPS__ | don't have a firewall. using linux |
| 19:42.17 | blast007 | MPS__: not sure then |
| 19:42.25 | MPS__ | possibly i should reboot |
| 19:45.01 | MindstormsKid | blast: how is the color of each server name chosen? |
| 19:46.21 | MindstormsKid | >_> |
| 19:47.01 | MindstormsKid | tortures ibot until it makes him a uss enterprise and a droid gunship |
| 19:47.12 | MPS__ | look in the sourcecode :P |
| 19:47.28 | me1 | MindstormsKid, it's based on shot count |
| 19:47.36 | MindstormsKid | shot count? |
| 19:47.42 | MindstormsKid | O_o |
| 19:47.44 | me1 | iirc |
| 19:48.08 | MindstormsKid | what is that? |
| 19:48.20 | me1 | the number of shots you have on that server |
| 19:48.26 | MindstormsKid | oh |
| 19:48.30 | MindstormsKid | hmmmm ok |
| 19:48.58 | MindstormsKid | that's why most obstacle courses are purple :P |
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| 20:52.06 | Winny | woo |
| 20:52.09 | Winny | winter storm warning |
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| 21:43.10 | Winny | woo |
| 21:43.10 | Winny | it's snowing |
| 21:43.10 | JeffM | what is that? |
| 21:43.10 | Winny | it's this cold white stuff |
| 21:43.10 | ts | Winny: No, it's not. It's raining and raining and raining :p |
| 21:43.10 | Winny | sort of like frozen cocaine falling from the sky :P |
| 21:43.10 | JeffM | cold? what is that? |
| 21:43.38 | tsykoduk | loves snow |
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| 22:10.21 | ``Erik | jeff: like the inside of your freezer :D supposed to snow here tomorrow |
| 22:10.48 | JeffM | why would it get like that outside? did you leave the AC On? |
| 22:11.49 | ``Erik | personally, I blame canada. the cold comes from the north, so it must be canadas fault :D *duck* |
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| 22:13.57 | JeffM | cold for us is less then 75 |
| 22:14.19 | tsykoduk | JeffM: WTH? that's HOT here. ;-) |
| 22:14.40 | JeffM | hot is 115 |
| 22:14.41 | MindstormsKid | :P |
| 22:15.02 | MindstormsKid | it's cold here at 60 or so |
| 22:15.08 | JeffM | it's 94 right now |
| 22:15.15 | MindstormsKid | got to 40 recently O_O |
| 22:15.40 | MindstormsKid | how would i flip an arc on it's side? |
| 22:15.48 | JeffM | make a mesh |
| 22:15.57 | MindstormsKid | O_o |
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| 22:16.16 | JeffM | our primitives are not meant for very oritnation |
| 22:16.23 | JeffM | you can't turn pyramids on there side, etc.. |
| 22:16.30 | JeffM | in general we only rotate around Z |
| 22:16.35 | MindstormsKid | can't you do that with spin? i tried but i can't get it to work perfectly.. |
| 22:16.38 | JeffM | group instances can do a little more |
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| 22:16.53 | JeffM | spin is a group modifyer IIRC not an object mod |
| 22:17.04 | JeffM | but the best way to get EXACTLY what you want is to use a mesh |
| 22:17.22 | MindstormsKid | no, spin is valid for arc *points at wiki* |
| 22:17.28 | JeffM | ok |
| 22:17.39 | JeffM | what are you using for the paramaters? |
| 22:17.57 | MindstormsKid | errrm hang on |
| 22:18.07 | MindstormsKid | spin 90 0 1 0 |
| 22:18.15 | JeffM | and what does it do? |
| 22:18.38 | JeffM | wow it may rain on sunday :) |
| 22:18.45 | JeffM | get down to 68 |
| 22:18.46 | MindstormsKid | it put it halfway underground, and made the position in z axis not work.. |
| 22:19.03 | JeffM | change one thing at a time |
| 22:19.11 | MindstormsKid | but otherwise it worked.. |
| 22:19.11 | JeffM | what did JUST the spin 90 do? |
| 22:19.37 | MindstormsKid | i didn't try, but it probably is invalid, it needs 4 numbers |
| 22:19.40 | tsykoduk | 35 tonite, 59 hi today. ;-) |
| 22:19.43 | JeffM | what origin does it spin around? |
| 22:19.54 | JeffM | MindstormsKid, I know I mean Your spind 90 line |
| 22:19.56 | JeffM | I didn't mean just that |
| 22:20.08 | JeffM | I was truncating for brevity |
| 22:20.25 | MindstormsKid | what? |
| 22:20.30 | JeffM | nevermind |
| 22:20.34 | MindstormsKid | has missed something... |
| 22:20.54 | MindstormsKid | it should rotate 90 degrees around the y axis |
| 22:21.01 | MindstormsKid | per http://koti.kapsi.fi/jpa/stuff/bzw/transformations.php |
| 22:21.32 | JeffM | but what origin |
| 22:21.37 | MindstormsKid | oh |
| 22:21.44 | JeffM | you need an axis AND an origin |
| 22:21.52 | JeffM | IIRC spin builds up a transform stack |
| 22:22.17 | JeffM | by defult it spins around 0,0,0 so when you move it, it swings instead of twirls |
| 22:22.34 | MindstormsKid | ok O_o |
| 22:24.12 | JeffM | I still recomend a mesh, but you can probably get it to work by moving it after you spin it |
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| 22:24.35 | JeffM | by using shift instead of position |
| 22:24.40 | MindstormsKid | wishes he knew how to use meshes |
| 22:24.47 | JeffM | then learn |
| 22:24.47 | MindstormsKid | :( |
| 22:25.01 | JeffM | they are a lot easier then the matrix math you are doing |
| 22:25.22 | MindstormsKid | meh whatever i'll try again :/ |
| 22:28.08 | trepan | arc \n ratio 0.25 \n size 20 20 8 \n shift 0 0 -4 \n spin 90 1 0 0 \n end |
| 22:28.30 | trepan | 180 of arc, that you can drive underneath? |
| 22:28.41 | JeffM | archway FTW |
| 22:28.51 | trepan | heh, forgot ... angle 180 |
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| 22:55.57 | MindstormsKid | trepan, were you talking to me..? (i had to go afk) |
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| 23:09.55 | red-der | does someone know why benfishs server (bztank.net) are down? |
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| 23:30.24 | JeffM | does std::vector::errase return an iterator on the gcc implementation of stl? |
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| 23:34.44 | AAA_awright | Vectors have erase? |
| 23:35.09 | AAA_awright | Guess they do. |
| 23:35.11 | JeffM | yeah |
| 23:35.14 | JeffM | it just ain't fast |
| 23:35.18 | JeffM | tho I should make this a list |
| 23:35.30 | AAA_awright | iterator erase ( iterator position ); |
| 23:35.36 | JeffM | cool |
| 23:35.40 | JeffM | what about map? |
| 23:35.45 | JeffM | out of curiosity |
| 23:39.03 | AAA_awright | size_type erase(const key_type&) one of a few |
| 23:39.20 | AAA_awright | void erase(iterator __first, iterator __last) |
| 23:39.35 | AAA_awright | void erase(iterator __position) |
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| 23:50.17 | JeffM | k, so they just haven't upgraded to the new spec, that sucks |
| 23:50.22 | JeffM | but I'll live |