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| 00:34.45 | TheRedBaron1 | JeffM: I'm pretty sure that the gu league is going to not like the BZDB var, _rejumpTime |
| 00:35.33 | Winny | TheRedBaron1: pft they can suck it up :P |
| 00:35.36 | Winny | ducks |
| 00:35.42 | JeffM | no, they can set it to 0 |
| 00:35.50 | JeffM | and it'll work JUST like it did before |
| 00:36.20 | TheRedBaron1 | JeffM: I figured as much |
| 00:36.43 | JeffM | it's set so short right now that it feels instant |
| 00:36.52 | JeffM | 0.01 seconds isn't THAT long |
| 00:37.26 | AAA_awright | How does it affect the Jump flag? |
| 00:37.35 | AAA_awright | Or Bouncy? |
| 00:37.39 | JeffM | it affects all jumps |
| 00:37.44 | JeffM | even wings flaps |
| 00:38.14 | JeffM | well anything that checks CanJump |
| 00:38.18 | TheRedBaron | JeffM: you'd be surprised. GU servers don't run -a because it effects jumps |
| 00:38.18 | JeffM | I don't know if bouncy does that |
| 00:38.39 | JeffM | TheRedBaron, trunk always uses -a now as well |
| 00:38.46 | JeffM | so they are going to have to do stuff |
| 00:38.51 | JeffM | this is just one more thing |
| 00:39.01 | AAA_awright | (I meant bouncy) WG might want another variable that defaults to "_rejumpTime" |
| 00:39.11 | JeffM | AAA_awright, mayber |
| 00:39.14 | JeffM | maybe |
| 00:39.32 | JeffM | I would not be against it, but I'd like it to be playtested first |
| 00:39.41 | AAA_awright | Go variable soup! |
| 00:40.04 | TheRedBaron | JeffM: you can't turn -a off via the conf in trunk ? |
| 00:40.04 | JeffM | thats why I'd want it tested, so we don't add it because we "think" it may be bad, but only IF it is bad |
| 00:40.12 | JeffM | TheRedBaron, you can set it to 0 |
| 00:40.17 | TheRedBaron | ok |
| 00:40.19 | AAA_awright | I am not concerned with the actual playing, so much as the possible creative uses you could get with different times for WG vs other flags |
| 00:41.05 | JeffM | perhaps |
| 00:41.24 | JeffM | there is a limit to how far you can reasonably go with customisation |
| 00:41.50 | JeffM | but again I'm not totaly adverse to it |
| 00:41.58 | JeffM | it'd be decently simple to add |
| 00:45.06 | JeffM | looks like it woudl affect bouncy |
| 00:45.24 | JeffM | goes to discuss with another sr. developer ;) |
| 00:50.37 | TheRedBaron | sets -JeffM 0 |
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| 00:51.51 | TheRedBaron | QuantumBeep ! |
| 00:52.00 | QuantumBeep | Hey TRB |
| 00:56.25 | JeffM | has come to a consensus with the other sr. developer :) |
| 01:18.55 | blast007 | Wings in trunk is different than Wings in 2.0.x anyway |
| 01:19.06 | blast007 | the jump velocity is added instead of set |
| 01:19.27 | blast007 | so no more jumping from 5000 units in the air, then jumping quick before you hit the ground and moving upwards ;) |
| 01:22.11 | JeffM | more of a "flap" |
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| 01:23.59 | TD-Linux | 0.01 s is 100 jumps per second |
| 01:24.31 | TD-Linux | how is that a problem? |
| 01:25.00 | brlcad | because tanks can't jump |
| 01:25.11 | TheRedBaron | TD-Linux: that math is useless - a jump in and of itself takes how long ? |
| 01:25.21 | TheRedBaron | TD-Linux: thats a milisecond of latency |
| 01:25.28 | TD-Linux | no it isn't is it? |
| 01:25.34 | blast007 | 10ms, actually |
| 01:25.44 | TD-Linux | it's not latency as far as I can tell |
| 01:25.51 | TD-Linux | it's how long you have to wait before you can jump again |
| 01:25.56 | TheRedBaron | exactlyh |
| 01:25.58 | blast007 | right |
| 01:26.06 | TD-Linux | so it's 0ms latency |
| 01:26.13 | TD-Linux | and so it only makes sense when you are using wg |
| 01:26.21 | TheRedBaron | TD-Linux: its jump latency :) |
| 01:26.29 | TD-Linux | it is NOT :( |
| 01:26.31 | blast007 | rejump latency |
| 01:26.36 | TheRedBaron | so you're snaggling over terms |
| 01:26.39 | TD-Linux | no |
| 01:26.41 | TD-Linux | it's not jump latency |
| 01:26.44 | TD-Linux | when you push TAB |
| 01:26.45 | TD-Linux | you JUMP |
| 01:26.47 | TD-Linux | 0ms |
| 01:27.12 | TheRedBaron | TD-Linux: when you are coming down - and you want to make an instantaneous jump - again. Sorry you'd have to wait .01 |
| 01:27.15 | TheRedBaron | thats latency |
| 01:27.31 | TD-Linux | no you don't |
| 01:27.40 | TD-Linux | it's since you last jumped, isn't it? |
| 01:28.17 | blast007 | hmm |
| 01:28.17 | TD-Linux | one of us is misunderstanding what the var does |
| 01:28.18 | TheRedBaron | that is a good question. |
| 01:28.53 | TD-Linux | I believe its purpose is so when you have wings, your max jump speed is determinate |
| 01:28.55 | TheRedBaron | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:29.04 | TheRedBaron | the question is - when does the clock start counting |
| 01:29.04 | TD-Linux | because with the new wings physics |
| 01:29.37 | TD-Linux | each jump adds velocity |
| 01:29.43 | TD-Linux | so you can accelerate moving upwards |
| 01:29.54 | TD-Linux | and without a limit, you could accelerate upwards rediculously fast |
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| 01:30.45 | TheRedBaron | shoots the moon |
| 01:30.51 | blast007 | TD-Linux: there is a limit |
| 01:30.57 | blast007 | you can't go faster than the jump velocity |
| 01:31.06 | TD-Linux | oh :( |
| 01:31.07 | blast007 | (wings jump velocity, that is) |
| 01:31.22 | TD-Linux | also, to be able to jump faster than 100 times a second, you would need 100 fps I think |
| 01:31.30 | TD-Linux | because last I checked jumps were added once per frmae |
| 01:31.33 | blast007 | yeah |
| 01:31.49 | blast007 | the game will limit itself to a maximum of 200FPS currently, iirc |
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| 19:36.28 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffM -> Topic for #bzflag is: http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || this channel is logged at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/ || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || 2.0.12 is the latest linux release, 2.0.10 for others || Pre-orders for hoodies end 10/19/08 |
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| 20:02.03 | JeffM | brlcad, wow, you musta been young in that picture ;) |
| 20:02.59 | Manu | lol |
| 20:04.28 | Manu | JeffM: puberty ;) |
| 20:05.31 | JeffM | has destroyed all evedence of his childhood |
| 20:06.26 | JeffM | wonders what other bugs he can fix at work instead of doing real work |
| 20:07.54 | JeffM | I could do the webchat plugin.... |
| 20:08.01 | JeffM | dunno if that's a wise choice |
| 20:17.23 | Erroneous | JeffM: could go for the record/replay stuff ;) or you could, y'know...work... |
| 20:19.27 | brlcad | JeffM: ayup |
| 20:19.44 | brlcad | probably 17 |
| 20:20.27 | brlcad | that site is wicked .. I've been having non-stop interactions all day long .. friends I hadn't seen/heard of in 15 years |
| 20:21.37 | JeffM | welcome to social networks |
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| 20:38.40 | Manu | brlcad: fb is the best site to waste your time ;) |
| 20:39.35 | joevano | is waiting until he can wear a L shirt comfortably before ordering, will settle for non-custom :) |
| 20:39.57 | Tupone | hola Sean & Julio |
| 20:43.59 | joevano | anyone here got a ASUS eee? you like it? |
| 20:45.07 | Winny | I've used one |
| 20:45.12 | Winny | keys are damn damn tiny |
| 20:45.14 | brlcad | Manu: no kidding .. *shakes fist at tupone* |
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| 20:47.33 | Tupone | :) |
| 20:51.42 | JeffM | joevano, target has them on sale IIRC |
| 20:51.57 | JeffM | friend of mine here had one, sold it |
| 20:53.01 | joevano | i had a Samsung Q1 ultra mobile and hated it, so im a little concerned |
| 20:53.09 | SportChick | hugs Manu, joevano, Tupone, Winny, brlcad and JeffM |
| 20:53.28 | Winny | long arms! |
| 20:53.31 | joevano | ticlehugs SportChick back |
| 20:57.22 | Manu | hugs SportChick till she turns in blue |
| 20:57.58 | Manu | Tupone: hola :) |
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| 21:18.34 | L4m3r | orders a shirt |
| 21:19.07 | L4m3r | JeffM: FYI, the page title at the store says "ZenCart!, The Art of E-Commerce" |
| 21:19.18 | JeffM | yeah |
| 21:19.25 | JeffM | never found out where to change that |
| 21:19.35 | Winny | can you do a grep for <title> ? |
| 21:19.41 | Winny | I bet you could pull it out that way |
| 21:19.58 | JeffM | it has a VERY wierd template system |
| 21:20.10 | Winny | ah, not like wordpress'? |
| 21:20.13 | JeffM | your welcome to grab a copy of it and find it for me :) |
| 21:20.15 | Winny | wordpress/drupal |
| 21:20.25 | JeffM | not every web app in the world follows those 3 |
| 21:20.26 | JeffM | 2 |
| 21:20.33 | Winny | it's just so logical :) |
| 21:20.42 | JeffM | it's open source |
| 21:20.44 | JeffM | fix it |
| 21:20.58 | L4m3r | I always liked vBulletin's template system :P |
| 21:21.11 | L4m3r | but importing and updating over it can be a pain |
| 21:21.47 | me1 | JeffM, looking at the source of the page, the title is the first thing in the head |
| 21:21.57 | Winny | me1: template system |
| 21:22.02 | me1 | ahh |
| 21:22.05 | me1 | nvm |
| 21:23.23 | me1 | Oh well, Zen Cart sounds cool :P |
| 21:24.55 | Winny | JeffM: where is the template stored? |
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| 21:35.35 | JeffM | I dunno |
| 21:36.10 | JeffM | I did like very little to make it look good, I spent more time on shipping and billing |
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| 22:02.51 | Winny | to change which machine handles email, all I need to is change which IP the domain's DNS points to, right? |
| 22:03.24 | Winny | like, change the dns on example.com to 1.2.3.4 from 2.3.4.5 so 1.2.3.4 will recieve the email instead |
| 22:08.44 | Winny | oh.. MX record.. hm |
| 22:17.56 | SportChick | turns blue and hopes Manu lets her breathe soon |
| 22:19.11 | Winny | hehe |
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| 23:13.17 | TheRedBaron | JeffM: I've worked with zencart. |
| 23:13.24 | JeffM | TheRedBaron, fun |
| 23:15.20 | TheRedBaron | not much though, I'll look at the source |
| 23:15.54 | JeffM | I don't think the fact that it says "zencart" at the top of the titlebar is costing us sales ;) |
| 23:16.05 | JeffM | but yeah if someone can tell me what file where to change I can do it |
| 23:23.15 | Thumper_ | JeffM: grab a copy of the source from where? |
| 23:23.30 | JeffM | the zencart site I guess |
| 23:23.32 | JeffM | thats where I got it |
| 23:27.21 | Thumper_ | thx |
| 23:27.50 | Thumper_ | JeffM: do you happen to know what version you are running? |
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| 23:28.05 | JeffM | when I hit the "Check for updates" button it says I'm current |
| 23:28.17 | Thumper_ | ok |
| 23:28.18 | JeffM | well at least ast time I check it at least |
| 23:30.02 | Winny | can anyone send a test email to info@psvibes.com for me? |
| 23:31.28 | Winny | me1: thanks |
| 23:31.31 | me1 | np |
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