IRC log for #bzflag on 20080808

00:00.35Birdieheyh
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00:36.27cymonquick question about the forums
00:36.37cymoni changed my email address, and my account is thus inactive
00:36.43Shaba1hey
00:36.45Shaba1folks
00:36.45cymonthe email gets sent to the new account or the other accout?
00:37.02Shaba1is there anyone here that has any hooks into #bzchat
00:37.19Shaba1It seems I am banned from that room and I have never in my life even been there
00:38.15short_circuitThat seems unlikely. There is a small possiblity you were caught in an entire subnet ban but wow.. the odds.
00:38.37cymonor do I have to be reactivated by an admin?
00:39.11L4m3rcymon: it should be sent to the new email address
00:39.27cymonah
00:39.36short_circuitiirc I had to get an admin involved cuz it didn't go through to the new email addy but wait a good 24 hours if you have the time
00:39.39cymonas i still haven't gotten anything yet (hopefully i didn't fat-finger it)
00:39.42Shaba1oh that has happened before short_circuit
00:39.44L4m3rbut it... doesn't seem to work 100% of the time. Don't forget to check your spam folder
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00:39.56Shaba1remember the AOL debacle of about 12 years ago
00:39.56Shaba1??
00:40.11short_circuitWhat l4m3r said! the spam sometimes catches an important one
00:40.14Shaba1AOLers are just not being allowed in some forums/rooms
00:40.29cymonright now, the only thing in my spam is penis enlargment
00:40.30cymongmail FTW
00:41.12L4m3r12 years ago? wasn't it more like 15? :)
00:41.12short_circuitdude
00:41.13short_circuitTMI
00:41.13Shaba1I seem to recall it being like 96
00:41.13short_circuitWe don't want to know what's in your spam
00:41.13Shaba1or maybe 95
00:41.13cymonit's just the standard spam crap
00:41.16L4m3rah, I thought you were referring to the endless september, which was 1993 iirc
00:41.21a_meteoriteshort_circuit: everyone knows what's in everyone's spam without looking
00:41.33cymonshort_circuit: just the usual cheap software scams, etc
00:41.38cymonnothing from bzflag
00:41.46short_circuitspeak for yourselves
00:45.19cymonso, assuming that this doesn't work out
00:45.43cymonwhat's the best method to contact the appropriate poeple: this IRC?
00:49.17donny_bakercymon: reading up.. hold on
00:49.51cymonthanks
00:50.26donny_bakerstill nothing?
00:50.43cymonnope
00:50.52cymoni didn't see a FAQ or somethign regarding this, either
00:54.18cymonexcellent
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00:56.40Shaba1so can anyon put in a word for me over there at bzchat
01:03.32donny_bakerword
01:04.14donny_bakerhmm isn't sd.sd.cox.net Nightmare?
01:04.39Shaba1Nightmare?
01:04.42Shaba1huh?
01:05.02donny_bakera player that can be a challenge at times
01:05.11Shaba1you mean that there was a user nicked "Nightmare" that was causing problems over there?
01:05.34cymonokay
01:05.51donny_bakercould be.. i have no idea.. i am only have mystical powers in this channel
01:06.09donny_bakerbut Nightmare is from around there
01:06.25donny_bakerbut it could have been anyone really... lots of people live out there ;)
01:06.51Shaba1Well that is not me.
01:06.57Shaba1I have never been to that channel
01:07.09Shaba1I have only ever play bZFlag on my own computer
01:07.15Shaba1never on the net.
01:07.18cymonanother quick forum question: how do I approve a group member?
01:07.18donny_bakeryep, but i cant help over there
01:07.19Shaba1Not good enough yet
01:07.23Shaba1:)
01:07.25Shaba1ah
01:07.44cymonnvm
01:07.44donny_bakeri only have operator privs here and on norang
01:07.48cymonheh
01:07.52cymonneed to scroll down more
01:07.59Shaba1any idea how I can get in contact that channel owner?
01:08.00donny_baker:)
01:08.10cymoni swear, I'm really good with all this stuff :D
01:08.10donny_bakerthis is the place\
01:08.20donny_bakercymon: hehe
01:08.25cymonhonestly!
01:08.27cymon:D
01:08.32Shaba1No biggie
01:08.39Shaba1I am sure I will have lotsa questions
01:08.41donny_bakerShaba1: they just dont seem to be around right now
01:12.46Shaba1Well here is one question off the bat
01:13.00donny_bakerask away
01:13.13donny_bakeryour more likely to get a resonse here anyway
01:13.20Shaba1with the number of 21st century multiplayer textured 3d games has Bzflag seen a decline in players
01:13.21Shaba1?
01:13.28donny_bakeras long as it is about bzflag
01:13.38donny_bakernot really
01:14.00donny_baker# of players has been pretty constant.. we have a graph somewhere
01:14.10Shaba1Ok just checking
01:14.20Shaba1it is kind 1980ish
01:14.23Shaba1but then I like that.
01:14.38donny_bakerour game is not all about shiney graphics.. its the gameplay that kicks #$%
01:14.39Shaba1The best computer game I ever played was pure wireframe
01:14.41Shaba1Elite
01:14.52donny_bakeroh, I LOVED that game
01:15.04Shaba1and they really messed it up when they ported it to PC with the full color graphics
01:15.15Shaba1the gameplay and story went in the pits
01:15.17donny_bakeryep, i would agree
01:15.46Shaba1i mean I would play that thing for HOURS on end.
01:15.58Shaba1It would have been great if it could have been multiplayer
01:16.26donny_bakerthat would have been sweet... just at 1200 baud would have been difficult
01:17.03Shaba1yeah I remember my old 300 baud
01:17.13Shaba1when I got a 1200 I thought I was in heaven
01:17.59donny_bakeryeah, i saved and save to get my 1200 baud
01:19.36donny_bakerdid you ever use GEOS?
01:21.06Shaba1HELL YES
01:21.08Shaba1I had the SDK
01:21.10Shaba1GeosBasic
01:21.14Shaba1Damn that take me back
01:21.20donny_baker:)
01:21.58Shaba1oH hell
01:22.02donny_bakerand those honking big 1541 floppies
01:22.25Shaba1now we are going to start talking about the old punch card days and (Cringe) COBOL
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01:38.31cymonbzfs reports a 'bad argument' when i specify -publicaddr ipaddress
01:38.34cymonor hostname
01:41.42short_circuit<PROTECTED>
01:48.48Flashthinks short_circuit has been drinking again
01:49.47cymonhow do you set the name of the server?
01:50.22cymonnvm
01:53.54short_circuitNope.. I've been running a nasty cold/flu since monday night which kicked it full force tuesday morning when tropical storm eduaord hit this area... been doped up on cought and cold since then trying to keep working.
01:53.58short_circuitKinda a catch 22
01:54.35short_circuitEither don't work efficiently with some strong meds, psuedofed and ibuprofen, or don't medicate and don't feel like working at all :(
01:54.51short_circuitsry for the delay was playing on mofo
01:55.46short_circuitpoo.. I need to pack for my road trip.. brb
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02:06.14short_circuitHrm.. I've got a reservation for a chevy cobalt, don't need much, and I've packed clothes, deoderant, toothbrush, baby at (cuz my laptop blowed up) an extra nic cord (since the hotel has nic sockets in every room) and a decent supply of crack cocaine... Am I forgetting anything?
02:06.33short_circuitj/k about the crack LOL
02:07.30a_meteoritemake sure you don't forget the cold meds, they are good replacements I hear
02:07.57short_circuitAh. yep.. need my psuedofed bigtime. Unless I can whip this soon
02:08.08short_circuitI'm guzzling OJ and vitamins so far.
02:08.25short_circuitBut this thing wont let go
02:08.47short_circuithates goin to the doctor
02:08.53a_meteoritewishes we had orange juice... haven't had a drop for a few months :(
02:08.55a_meteoriteis a an orange juice addict
02:09.09short_circuitTry Tampico
02:09.17short_circuitPoor man's substitute
02:10.08short_circuitI'm using OJ concentrate frozen can thingies here.
02:15.30short_circuit*cRiCkEtS*
02:15.48a_meteoriteI hear cricket pitches change as rapidly as your capitalization does.
02:15.58short_circuitFaStEr
02:16.03short_circuitnStUfF
02:42.17short_circuitIs CIA dead again? I haven't noticed any student commits :(
02:45.03a_meteoritehugs CIA-36
02:45.03CIA-36hugs a_meteorite
02:45.12short_circuit;)
02:45.20short_circuitis goin through the repository now
02:45.42short_circuitor however you refer to the various branches in bzflags https
02:51.01short_circuitfor being recent commiters
02:51.14short_circuit~bugQ++
02:51.20short_circuit~Thumper++
02:51.45short_circuit~03chaos dev++
02:51.57short_circuitoops
02:52.02short_circuit~03chaos-dev++
02:53.38short_circuitGod! the severe indifference!
02:53.48short_circuitThe Radical Non-challance
02:53.54short_circuit<sp>
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03:18.11cymonokay
03:18.14cymonfor some reason
03:18.23cymoneven though bzfs parses my -conf file
03:18.30cymonit's not applying any of the arguments inside
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03:40.16cymonokay
03:40.36cymonnvm
03:47.45bugQoh there we go! about time.
03:48.38bugQmy error messages are working, I think
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04:09.04bugQsession doesn't seem to last long, though
04:49.37bugQhah
04:50.04blast007how's it going bugQ?
04:50.57bugQfound something, one sc
04:50.59bugQsec
04:51.13SportChickDTRemenak: you around?
04:51.44bugQwhy the crazy tabs/spaces mix, though? just because it's vim's default?
04:55.11a_meteoritebugQ: it's bzflag, reason enough
04:55.49a_meteoritemaking patches for that reason alone makes it hard... I'd go into a bit of code, and then the indentation will *go back* inside a block part way then back again
04:56.12bugQi refer to the fact that someone changed my whitespace because it doesn't match DEVINFO
04:56.12a_meteoriteand in the same file it may be 2 spaces or different, in some tabs
04:56.23a_meteoriteheh
04:57.38blast007use SVN's blame feature to figure out who  ;)  maybe it was me
04:58.18bugQit was bthansen
04:58.33bugQif that's what DEVINFO says, though, I guess I'll go with it
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05:01.11slacknatehey someone wanna gimme some help? i spelled my email wrong when registering a callsign
05:01.57blast007sure, 1 sec
05:02.17cymonkeep in mind that you should probably go on IRC with your bzflag username
05:02.34blast007cymon: assuming it's a valid IRC name  ;)
05:02.38slacknatewell this would be the one if i didnt mispell my email
05:02.39blast007doesn't really matter though
05:02.59slacknatethats the 2nd time ive done that i feel so retarded >_<
05:03.10cymonoddly enough, I did the exact same thing (mispelled username) earlier tonight
05:03.30blast007slacknate: I sent you a PM on here
05:04.01slacknatei saw
05:04.27cymonw00t irssi
05:04.37slacknateirssi owns
05:05.32cymonindeed
05:05.39cymonslacknate: once you're registered
05:05.41cymonjoin cymon.co
05:05.42cymon[
05:05.44cymongah
05:05.45slacknateik
05:05.46cymoncymon.cop
05:05.47cymonkk
05:08.07CIA-36BZFlag: 03bugQ * r18300 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/templates/group.tmpl: let's try actually checking the checkboxes!
05:08.17blast007bugQ: heh
05:10.24CIA-36BZFlag: 03bugQ * r18301 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/templates/group.tmpl: template conditionals need else's
05:12.24bugQwell holy crap, that took long enough
05:12.41bugQit doesn't save the permissions, though
05:13.28bugQwouldn't bz_groupAllowPerm return false if it didn't work?
05:17.16bugQblah, I'll have to talk with jeff about this tomorrow
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05:30.10AbominableDoes anyone here know anything about web-design and PHP?
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06:03.18DTRemenakSportChick: whatcha need?
06:09.29FlashDTRemenak: she went to bet
06:09.33Flashbed even
06:37.14brlcadbugq, nice progress :)
07:05.29SportChickbrlcad: hiya
07:05.30SportChickhey DTRemenak
07:05.35DTRemenakhey
07:05.56brlcadhowdy sporchicky
07:06.19brlcadeep, sporTchicky even
07:06.29SportChickhehe
07:06.36DTRemenaksproch icky?
07:07.12DTRemenakhugs SportChick
07:07.29SportChickaww, meanie, DTRemenak
07:08.50DTRemenakhugs SportChick again
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17:51.18Cobra_Fastis it allowed to run a modded bzfs in public?
17:52.59spldartI believe they prefer that modifcations that effect game play at all use a different protocol so your not listed with normal servers
17:53.13spldartAnd anything considered cheat should stay off list server all together no matter what.
17:53.40Cobra_Fastwhat about modifications like enabling more than 20 shots
17:53.45spldartBut I'm sure someone can do a better job of answering.. just wait a minute or two
17:54.32spldartDunno... You are effecting game play but it also sounds innocent enough.. I'm sure a dev will weigh in soon enough.
17:54.56TheRedBaronI've seen mods like more then 20 shots (500 shots) on the public list before
17:55.09spldartThey were fine with that?
17:55.26TheRedBaronIIRC secretplace ran it for a while
17:55.39TheRedBaronsecretplace being the equivalent of badgerkings back then
17:55.39spldartSounds like it will be fine.
17:55.49Cobra_Fasthmm
17:56.12Cobra_Fastwhat about running it until someone important feels disturbed!?
17:56.13Cobra_Fast:p
17:56.14TheRedBaronrunning a cheat server used to be ok - but is no longer allowed on the public server list
17:56.44TheRedBaronits your bandwidth/hardware - you can run what you want.  But you may not be allowed on the public server list
17:56.58Cobra_Fastexactly thats what i want to know
17:57.16Cobra_Fastam i allowed to place it on the public list!?
17:57.17TheRedBaronis all you plan on doing increase the shot limit ?
17:57.22TheRedBaron*increasing
17:57.25Cobra_Fastyep
17:57.31Cobra_Fastthats the only thing i want
17:57.35Cobra_Fastmore than 20 shots
17:57.41TheRedBarongo for it then :P
17:57.45Cobra_Fastk ;)
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18:34.06ManuCobra_Slow: you can set the shots limit you want, that isn't a cheat
18:34.11Manuin the server I mean :)
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19:03.51spldartDoh!
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21:09.50Winnymamma - mia!
21:09.51Winnyducks
21:18.43Winnyvista users? http://gizmodo.com/5034839/windows-vista-pwned-by-web-exploit-that-cant-be-stopped
21:26.18JeffMread the last line
21:31.54Winnywhenever I see that in these security thing it means "it could be applied if the user downloaded and manually ran it"
21:32.26JeffMthat is honestly a very common attack vector on any system
21:32.39JeffMI know the perfect way to attack any company's computer system
21:32.51Winnyphysical access? ;)
21:32.54JeffMdrop an infected flash drive outside with a "vivid" sticker on it
21:33.14JeffMfirst man that finds it will plug it into a system
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22:19.49CIA-36BZFlag: 03wyk3d * r18302 10/branches/gsoc_bzauthd/ (4 files in 2 dirs): * Started writing a registration menu
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22:29.02Wyk3dhow do you configure VC8 to break at the offending line when an exception occurs ?
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22:31.03Wyk3dhmm wait .. it works in bzauthd but not in bzflag
22:32.03Wyk3dcorrection again, it works for some exceptions in bzflag too but not for
22:32.33Wyk3dFirst-chance exception at 0x0059aa28 in bzflag.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation reading location 0xcdcdcdcd.
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23:10.53FlashWyk3d: that's not a good location to read
23:11.20Wyk3di know
23:11.22Wyk3di fixed it but
23:11.28Wyk3dwhy doesn't it break on that line ?
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23:11.52Wyk3di had to set breakpoints and follow it up to the point where it crashes
23:12.17Wyk3dit would have been fixed the first time if it had stopped on that line
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23:29.59AAA_awright|<--CIA-26 has left freenode (K-lined)
23:30.06AAA_awrightWhat is that about?
23:30.41blast007AAA_awright: the FBI did it.
23:30.48AAA_awrighthehe
23:31.23AAA_awrightSome bots exited with that message, some simply timed out...
23:31.56AAA_awrightSome are still here...
23:33.28blast007it was probably a conspiracy against the high numbered bot from the low numbered bots, since CIA-1 is still online
23:33.34blast007bots*
23:34.30AAA_awrightNo, in bztourney, CIA-58 joined, then 15 mins later CIA-13 timed out
23:34.40blast007heh
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