| 00:01.21 | DTRemenak | works for me :S |
| 00:17.24 | DTRemenak | https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/branches/gsoc_server_listing From HEAD To Rev 18050 dry run completes fine |
| 00:17.24 | KingofCamelot | Fails for me with dry run, heh |
| 00:17.24 | DTRemenak | wierd. guess it doesn't like you ;) |
| 00:17.24 | KingofCamelot | Makes me afraid to try that merge we talked about last night. :P |
| 00:17.24 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 00:17.24 | DTRemenak | http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/!svn/bc/18071/branches/gsoc_server_listing/ loads fine for me in a browser too |
| 00:17.24 | DTRemenak | definitely no 301 response |
| 00:17.24 | KingofCamelot | Loads fine over here too. |
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| 00:17.25 | brlcad | KingofCamelot: ah, well explained -- thanks |
| 00:17.25 | brlcad | KingofCamelot: your url is missing a trailing slash |
| 00:17.25 | brlcad | hence the 301 |
| 00:17.25 | brlcad | maybe a TortoiseSVN bug |
| 00:17.25 | brlcad | can see the 301 with: curl 'https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/!svn/bc/18071/branches/gsoc_server_listing' |
| 00:17.25 | KingofCamelot | Hmm, well in the merge dialog for TortoiseSVN I can add a trailing slash, but same error message comes up. |
| 00:19.08 | brlcad | sounds like it may be stripping the trailing slash |
| 00:20.56 | KingofCamelot | Hmm, so maybe I should download SVN and try this manually instead of through TortoiseSVN? |
| 00:22.18 | blast007 | KingofCamelot: what command/menu in TortoiseSVN are you using? |
| 00:23.53 | KingofCamelot | right click on HUDuiLabel.cxx, then doing TortoiseSVN and Merge |
| 00:25.01 | blast007 | try "Show Log" instead |
| 00:25.25 | blast007 | then right click on the revision you want to roll back to, and say "Revert to this revision" |
| 00:25.44 | blast007 | merge is probably for something else |
| 00:26.00 | blast007 | (like merging changes between two branches) |
| 00:27.48 | KingofCamelot | And then just commit the older revision? |
| 00:28.02 | brlcad | assuming there were no useful changes since |
| 00:28.06 | brlcad | should be okay |
| 00:28.08 | KingofCamelot | I thought I tried this earlier, but the revert just changed my file and didn't let me commit. Seems it will let me commit now. |
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| 00:30.11 | CIA-34 | BZFlag: 03kingofcamelot * r18072 10/branches/gsoc_server_listing/src/bzflag/ (HUDuiLabel.cxx HUDuiLabel.h): Rolling back my changes to HUDuiLabel, don't need them any more. Rolling back to revision 17325. |
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| 00:53.26 | JBdiGriz | Wyk3d: If it's your code, there isn't a problem. If you turned over the rights to the project, then it could be a problem. |
| 00:55.29 | brlcad | Wyk3d: I also presume/home you read DTRemenak blog update about our callback conventions? |
| 00:57.57 | brlcad | he gives a pretty good overview of how to go about using them in a way that jives well with our conventions: http://tanks4code.blogspot.com/ |
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| 01:11.04 | Wyk3d | JBdiGriz: it's my code, though there have been one or two minor changes by others .. the file is licensed to the project though, but that's only a matter of just telling people I've relicensed it and they'll be fine with it :) |
| 01:11.18 | JBdiGriz | That sounds fine then. |
| 01:11.29 | JBdiGriz | When will you be compiling for Linux? |
| 01:11.46 | Wyk3d | when someone helps me with the build environment |
| 01:11.56 | Wyk3d | JeffM told me to stick to VS for now |
| 01:12.02 | JBdiGriz | What do you need? |
| 01:12.21 | JBdiGriz | I was hoping we would be able to install on one of brlcad's test machines soon. |
| 01:13.20 | Wyk3d | well basically, I don't have much experience with writing makefiles from scratch .. i've added new files to them a couple of times but that's about it |
| 01:13.38 | Wyk3d | i saw you're using automake which i know even less about |
| 01:14.49 | Wyk3d | JeffM told me one of "nixies" will just add a copy of the build system :) |
| 01:18.08 | Wyk3d | ofcourse if that's problematic I could do it myself with some instructions |
| 01:18.43 | Wyk3d | though I don't have a linux installation atm |
| 01:19.08 | blast007 | honestly I don't see why we can't run a test using a Windows system.. |
| 01:19.45 | Wyk3d | well for testit it wouldn't be a problem |
| 01:20.17 | Wyk3d | but for prolonged use I wouldn't trust the hackish win ports of some of the libraries |
| 01:20.22 | Wyk3d | *testing |
| 01:20.38 | blast007 | right, but we're not deploying it right now :) |
| 01:24.11 | Wyk3d | brlcad: actually, no I haven't read that yet, thanks .. |
| 01:27.30 | Wyk3d | though I'm curious, is it done that way for a reason other than it being a standard ? i.e any advantage compared to a templated solution ? |
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| 01:37.51 | brlcad | Wyk3d: it's done that way for a variety of reasons -- consistency is a big factor (having >1 callback mechanisms just adds complexity for no benefit), cross-platform compatibility (e.g. where a templatized approach might be problematic with some compilers), and it's pretty simple (easy for new devs to grasp) |
| 01:38.47 | brlcad | we could consider adopting different approaches, but all of our main callback mechanisms would really beg/need to be updated (not leaving it to "someone(tm)" to do it later, doesn't happen) |
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| 03:46.38 | CIA-34 | BZFlag: 03kingofcamelot * r18073 10/branches/gsoc_server_listing/ (640 files in 123 dirs): Merging trunk revision 18069 with the branch. |
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| 08:12.30 | mib_bc55ja | what's the point of using fixed length strings? |
| 08:14.04 | blast007 | depends what you're talking about |
| 08:14.42 | mib_bc55ja | in general why not just use a variable-length string |
| 08:15.34 | blast007 | for what? |
| 08:15.46 | mib_bc55ja | programs |
| 08:15.54 | mib_bc55ja | lol |
| 08:15.59 | blast007 | can you be any more vague? |
| 08:16.18 | blast007 | is this something regarding BZFlag? |
| 08:16.28 | mib_bc55ja | no |
| 08:16.33 | mib_bc55ja | absolutely off topic |
| 08:16.47 | Lukstr | to be conservative |
| 08:17.55 | mib_bc55ja | to what degree does saving space affect the running of the program? |
| 08:18.00 | blast007 | mib_bc55ja: maybe you should go to a general programming channel instead |
| 08:18.19 | mib_bc55ja | would 20kb be much different to 1 megabyte? |
| 08:20.45 | Lukstr | mib_bc55ja: yes |
| 08:21.12 | Lukstr | mib_bc55ja: this isn't the place to discuss it, but as there is no other activity: consider being contrained to 256kb of memory |
| 08:21.31 | Lukstr | constrained, rather |
| 08:22.12 | brlcad | KingofCamelot: only a few hours remaining to submit your student midterm survey |
| 08:22.23 | brlcad | ~seen bugq |
| 08:22.25 | ibot | bugq <n=bugQ@c-67-166-124-4.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 1d 4h 4m 57s ago, saying: 'and that's all, folks'. |
| 08:22.26 | Lukstr | :S |
| 08:22.40 | brlcad | same for bugq if he shows up |
| 08:22.46 | KingofCamelot | @brlcad, wait, what? |
| 08:23.44 | KingofCamelot | I must have missed something... |
| 08:23.49 | brlcad | KingofCamelot: you're apparently not reading your e-mail or I'm getting nicks mixed up |
| 08:24.07 | brlcad | log into the dashboard |
| 08:24.08 | Lukstr | you have a GSoC survey to complete if you want to keep working :P |
| 08:24.16 | KingofCamelot | Shit...better get on that |
| 08:24.27 | brlcad | indeed |
| 08:24.40 | KingofCamelot | I didn't get any e-mail about it...would it have been from you guys? |
| 08:24.56 | Lukstr | gsoc student list |
| 08:25.02 | brlcad | nope, it was to the mailing list all students were subscribed to |
| 08:25.39 | KingofCamelot | Heh. Guess I'll need to watch that more carefully in the future. |
| 08:25.51 | KingofCamelot | I check it every few days, but it's mostly just spammy stuff I don't bother to look at. |
| 08:25.57 | brlcad | i've made a couple reminder announcements over the past week in here, but you keep disconnecting from irc so you miss it (and apparently don't read the logs) |
| 08:26.35 | KingofCamelot | Guilty about the log reading |
| 08:26.47 | Lukstr | hah |
| 08:26.55 | brlcad | seems like you need a better irc client, something more effective for staying logged on ;) |
| 08:27.07 | brlcad | screen+irssi from a server ftw |
| 08:27.14 | KingofCamelot | I think it's just my laptop, when it goes into sleep mode there goes the IRC, heh |
| 08:27.38 | brlcad | hence, from a server .. then you'd just reattach and have your persistent session |
| 08:27.53 | KingofCamelot | Interesting. Hadn't heard of that before. |
| 08:28.11 | brlcad | screen is the shiznits |
| 08:28.17 | Lukstr | wait wait wait |
| 08:28.22 | Lukstr | irssi I could understand, but screen? |
| 08:29.24 | Lukstr | I guess if you're not a vim guy... |
| 08:29.29 | brlcad | screen provides persistent terminal sessions that you can attach to and detach from as needed, letting any processes you start within screen stay running even if detached |
| 08:30.02 | blast007 | Lukstr: I'm a vim user and a screen user... |
| 08:30.15 | brlcad | has no more to do with vim than 'less' does |
| 08:30.55 | brlcad | estimate about half the people in this channel that stay connected 24/7 are using screen |
| 08:31.07 | Lukstr | Modern linux users tend towards the GUIs :P |
| 08:31.31 | brlcad | BS :) |
| 08:31.37 | KingofCamelot | Should I fill out the survey with the strict sense of mentor, or can I instead talk about all the mentors that I've talked with? Cause donny_baker is technically my mentor but we haven't had much conversation, where as I've had a lot of conversation with DTRemenak because he knows a lot about the menu stuff. |
| 08:31.38 | brlcad | that's just a "new" linux user, not modern |
| 08:32.00 | Lukstr | brlcad: my mistake, that was my intent |
| 08:32.06 | brlcad | any long-term user learns the tools at their disposal regardless of gui/terminal |
| 08:32.46 | brlcad | KingofCamelot: supposed to be "all of them" |
| 08:33.17 | brlcad | you can clarify that in the comments |
| 08:33.29 | KingofCamelot | Ok, good, cause otherwise this survey would make it sound like I ignore the organization, heh. |
| 08:34.07 | brlcad | Lukstr: you still want to run from a server regardless, where gui stuff is generally entirely suboptimal and undesireable anyways |
| 08:34.18 | brlcad | since you want it to be persistent |
| 08:34.56 | Lukstr | indeed |
| 08:34.56 | brlcad | KingofCamelot: fyi, we do get to read what you submit ;) |
| 08:35.09 | Lukstr | well brlcad does :P |
| 08:36.48 | KingofCamelot | Well, that's not going to change any of what I'm writing. :P |
| 08:37.15 | brlcad | sure, it shouldn't -- just wanted to let you know regardless |
| 08:37.34 | KingofCamelot | Thanks for the heads up. :) |
| 08:37.47 | Lukstr | I hope bugQ shows up soon |
| 08:42.41 | KingofCamelot | "I seldom interacts with my mentor" |
| 08:42.47 | KingofCamelot | Nice grammar in this survey :P |
| 08:43.11 | brlcad | I likes it |
| 08:59.54 | KingofCamelot | Ok...survey done and submitted. Just in the nick of time. :P |
| 09:00.14 | mib_dopq7f | hah what a pun |
| 09:07.35 | CIA-34 | BZFlag: 03kingofcamelot * r18074 10/branches/gsoc_server_listing/src/bzflag/ (HUDuiScrollList.cxx HUDuiServerListItem.cxx): Updates to HUDuiServerListItem. Now it can grab the display information from ServerItems. |
| 09:23.49 | blast007 | ... |
| 09:24.08 | blast008 | hi |
| 09:28.46 | Epyon | Lukstr, "If hackers would use virtual reality, it would show a bunch of text terminals floating around" ;] |
| 09:31.41 | blast008 | you're outdated blast009 |
| 09:32.44 | blast009 | blast008, no, I'm the newer model |
| 09:33.00 | Lukstr | I'm pretty sure 007 is the longest living model though |
| 09:33.03 | blast007 | I'm the version that actually works :P |
| 09:33.17 | blast008 | blast009 ur way too old |
| 09:33.22 | Lukstr | sleeps |
| 09:33.24 | blast008 | you must be 60 |
| 09:33.32 | blast009 | 060? |
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| 09:46.36 | blast008 | lukstr, "If hackers weren't hackers, then terminals wouldn't be terminals" |
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| 11:09.56 | Wyk3d | <@brlcad> KingofCamelot: supposed to be "all of them" |
| 11:11.06 | Wyk3d | eek .. that's now how I did it |
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| 16:36.10 | brlcad | bugQ: you do realize that you have a deadline fast approaching? just a couple hours until the student midterm survey has to be completed |
| 16:36.18 | bugQ | ya. |
| 16:36.28 | brlcad | k |
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| 17:22.15 | JeffM | wonders who the other JeffM was |
| 17:22.44 | Winny | were you drunk? ;) |
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| 17:23.14 | JeffM | I mean when I loged in, someone was using my nick and I had to ghost them |
| 17:23.33 | Winny | o.O |
| 17:24.05 | bugQ | evil twin, spooky. |
| 17:26.35 | blast007 | JeffM: there's a jeffm_ online now, presumable the same one after their client rejoined |
| 17:26.46 | Erroneous | pretty regularly has to ghost someone who apparently goes by eRrOnEoUs... |
| 17:26.55 | JeffM | ahh |
| 17:27.03 | JeffM | another valid JeffM :) |
| 17:27.11 | Winny | fight to the death |
| 17:28.35 | Winny | yay.. new copy of photoshop finally showed up |
| 17:28.41 | JeffM | only if you will be the cannon fodder |
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| 18:30.55 | spldart | http://cia.vc/ dead? |
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| 18:31.33 | spldart | geez this dsl modem just keeps hopping ip day and night :( |
| 18:33.02 | brlcad | has avoided logging in to investigate |
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| 18:40.31 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || logs at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/ || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || 2.0.12 is the latest linux release, 2.0.10 for others || GSoC 2008, mentor blog at http://tanks4code.blogspot.com || Congratulations GSoC participants: http://code.google.com/soc/2008/bzflag/about.html || Students should add their projects to the wiki for review |
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| 19:02.13 | brlcad | bugQ: hot damn, talk about last minute! heh... |
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| 22:00.07 | JeffM | why not wasp64 Constitution ? are you on an old pentium? |
| 22:03.21 | Constitution | maybe about time to graduate |
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