| 00:04.15 | bugQ | there you are |
| 00:04.19 | spldart | listens to the crickets |
| 00:04.25 | spldart | oh |
| 00:04.39 | bugQ | hee. |
| 00:04.46 | spldart | ;-) |
| 00:05.37 | spldart | ooo... and update |
| 00:05.42 | spldart | webadmin :) |
| 00:06.12 | bugQ | a little bit |
| 00:07.01 | spldart | was looking through webadmin.cpp just a few minutes ago :) |
| 00:07.34 | bugQ | I haven't tested much, so I don't have much to talk about yet |
| 00:07.34 | JeffM | bugQ, yes you can't use put and delete, they are not for what you think they are for, use an action paramater, and the POST format |
| 00:08.45 | JeffM | PUT and DELETE are used for adding and removing URIs so you'd still have to have paramaters to describe what to do, so it would not work |
| 00:12.57 | bugQ | ooh cool, interrupting the server with my plugin segfaults |
| 00:13.47 | spldart | troubleshooting? |
| 00:13.59 | spldart | debug? |
| 00:14.17 | bugQ | well, just trying to test my interface |
| 00:14.26 | spldart | indeed |
| 00:15.33 | spldart | Speaking of which |
| 00:15.50 | spldart | I'm getting some warnings in robotplayer.cxx in vc8 |
| 00:16.09 | JeffM | like? |
| 00:16.16 | spldart | >c:\bzflag\src\bzfs\customworld.cxx(61) : warning C4305: 'argument' : truncation from 'double' to 'float'..... also line 62 63 |
| 00:16.18 | JeffM | bugQ, does it say where it's dying in the debuger? |
| 00:16.36 | JeffM | spldart, why would robotplayer be including the world? |
| 00:16.43 | spldart | dunno |
| 00:19.50 | bugQ | without gdb, I send ^C and it segfaults. with gdb, it just pauses. can I get gdb to stop catching SIGINT? |
| 00:20.25 | spldart | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m3d5bd2d7 |
| 00:20.41 | spldart | @ r18016 |
| 00:20.53 | spldart | linux debug |
| 00:21.16 | bugQ | oops. |
| 00:21.31 | bugQ | my compiler is too lenient apparently |
| 00:22.49 | spldart | oops... my windows was at 18016 and linux was 1 or 3 minutes older... re 'make' ing |
| 00:23.00 | JeffM | spldart, fixed |
| 00:23.06 | spldart | kewlio |
| 00:23.22 | JeffM | well the warnigns in VC8 I mean |
| 00:23.29 | JeffM | M_PI can be a double |
| 00:23.31 | bugQ | and the other thing too |
| 00:23.43 | spldart | ic... working.. but linux is still waRning.. checking more now |
| 00:24.27 | bugQ | oops, dinner calls...back in 20 or so |
| 00:24.32 | spldart | oki doki |
| 00:24.37 | spldart | read up when you get back |
| 00:25.01 | spldart | has two keyboards and two os's in debug and is taking notes |
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| 00:29.55 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v bryjen] by ChanServ |
| 00:30.04 | spldart | is back from helping a friend test his server..... |
| 00:30.24 | spldart | linux looks good |
| 00:30.35 | spldart | windows looks good |
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| 00:42.29 | hwilde | yo think |
| 00:42.35 | hwilde | come ban some foos |
| 00:42.40 | hwilde | incoming |
| 00:43.22 | Winny | ducks |
| 00:48.07 | spldart | heh |
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| 00:50.58 | spldart | Where be the foos... man. A-choooo |
| 00:54.32 | spldart | Kah! may! Ha! May! HAAAA!!! |
| 00:59.05 | hwilde | lol |
| 00:59.23 | hwilde | why would they even enable F5 anyways |
| 00:59.32 | hwilde | smacks whoever made that server setting |
| 00:59.45 | short_circuit | wall walking? |
| 01:00.11 | hwilde | in incoming it is really helpful to stealing the flag |
| 01:02.45 | Gnurdux | thanks |
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| 01:08.17 | bugQ | aha, gdb --pid is the way |
| 01:10.53 | bugQ | or not |
| 01:12.58 | short_circuit | meh |
| 01:13.26 | bugQ | blah, the segfault is not important now |
| 01:24.20 | bugQ | what does a userdb look like? |
| 01:28.59 | bugQ | hee, "don't tank naked" |
| 01:31.51 | spldart | What do you need outside what you can find on google? |
| 01:34.11 | bugQ | oh come on, don't you like it when ask questions? |
| 01:34.22 | spldart | huh? |
| 01:34.24 | bugQ | besides, google hasn't answered my question yet |
| 01:34.33 | spldart | It's set up like group.db |
| 01:34.36 | spldart | iirc |
| 01:34.37 | bugQ | when I ask questions that is |
| 01:35.21 | spldart | specific? |
| 01:35.22 | JeffM | most servers don't use a userdb |
| 01:35.31 | JeffM | but let me see if we had a sample |
| 01:35.48 | bugQ | what is the fastest way to make myself an admin of my own server then? |
| 01:36.11 | JeffM | add DEVELOPERS: ALL to your groupdb |
| 01:36.11 | spldart | #/password or been a group |
| 01:36.30 | spldart | s/been/be in |
| 01:36.41 | JeffM | you should be in the dev group |
| 01:37.15 | spldart | was busy cop 'ing in bzflagr.. |
| 01:37.45 | JeffM | that sounds dirty, and illigal in 38 states |
| 01:38.16 | JeffM | bugQ, if you aren't I can add you real quick |
| 01:38.31 | spldart | lol |
| 01:38.50 | bugQ | well let's see |
| 01:42.42 | JeffM | bugQ, you weren't I added you |
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| 01:46.48 | JeffM | you can do a userdb if you want, but groups are a lot easier |
| 01:46.51 | brlcad | fyi, there's a support request in to sf.net to fix CIA |
| 01:46.54 | JeffM | and work with name changes etc.. |
| 01:46.55 | bugQ | um, I don't get a "global login approved" when connecting with the client |
| 01:47.00 | brlcad | the problem seems to be on their end |
| 01:47.10 | JeffM | bugQ, are you using your fourm username and password in game? |
| 01:47.14 | bugQ | yes |
| 01:47.25 | bugQ | is there a flag I forgot? |
| 01:47.28 | brlcad | it was instantly marked high-priority so hopefully it should get resolved soon |
| 01:47.32 | JeffM | no it's automatic |
| 01:47.42 | JeffM | do you get a token in the client? |
| 01:49.07 | bugQ | would know if I did? |
| 01:49.08 | JeffM | it will say so in the chat when you get a list of servers, etc.. |
| 01:49.12 | bugQ | would I know |
| 01:49.18 | bugQ | ya, I don't |
| 01:49.29 | JeffM | does it say token failed? |
| 01:49.35 | JeffM | or a bad message? |
| 01:49.41 | JeffM | dosn't remember the exact error |
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| 01:50.05 | bugQ | nope, nothing |
| 01:50.18 | JeffM | are you behind a proxy server? |
| 01:50.28 | bugQ | no, just a router |
| 01:50.39 | JeffM | is it doing any agressive caching? |
| 01:51.04 | bugQ | how would I clear it? |
| 01:51.13 | bugQ | oh, the router |
| 01:51.18 | JeffM | yeah we don't cache |
| 01:51.22 | bugQ | no, don't think so |
| 01:51.26 | JeffM | hmmm |
| 01:51.59 | JeffM | go here |
| 01:52.00 | JeffM | http://my.bzflag.org/weblogin.php/?url=http://www.google.com |
| 01:52.05 | JeffM | put in your username and password |
| 01:52.07 | JeffM | and hit login |
| 01:52.15 | JeffM | does it give you an error, or gake you to google? |
| 01:52.32 | bugQ | works fin |
| 01:52.34 | bugQ | fine |
| 01:53.03 | JeffM | and that is the same username and password you are putting the the callsign and password fields in the game menu? |
| 01:53.11 | bugQ | ya. |
| 01:53.27 | JeffM | does the game show you a list of servers when you list them? |
| 01:53.55 | bugQ | yep, with spldart on top |
| 01:54.03 | short_circuit | ? |
| 01:54.13 | JeffM | open up the config file and find bzflag.org |
| 01:54.21 | JeffM | that will be the list server URL |
| 01:54.26 | JeffM | remove the # before the set |
| 01:54.31 | JeffM | and add :81 after .org |
| 01:54.34 | bugQ | spldart's wartowares or something |
| 01:54.38 | bugQ | *towers |
| 01:54.56 | short_circuit | shouldn't be on top |
| 01:55.03 | JeffM | short_circuit, why not? |
| 01:55.22 | short_circuit | Isn't it listed in number of player order? |
| 01:55.22 | JeffM | it was when I tested |
| 01:55.30 | JeffM | yeah and if they are all 0 ;) |
| 01:55.43 | short_circuit | hrm |
| 01:55.57 | short_circuit | What defines order then? |
| 01:55.58 | JeffM | nobody plays trunk for fun |
| 01:56.04 | JeffM | after that it's just list order |
| 01:56.05 | short_circuit | OH!!!!!! |
| 01:56.14 | short_circuit | DUH |
| 01:58.32 | JeffM | bugQ, I have to go in a bit, but basicly it sounds like something is screwing your client's connection to the list and making you not get a valid token. it could be a firewall, or something. or wackyness on your ISP |
| 01:59.16 | bugQ | it's like it doesn't talk to the list server at all... |
| 01:59.27 | JeffM | well if you get a list it does |
| 01:59.31 | JeffM | but it may be a chaced responce |
| 01:59.42 | JeffM | throw out your cache files in your config dir |
| 01:59.49 | JeffM | maybe it's using that instead of hitting the list |
| 02:00.01 | JeffM | often changing the port makes proxies ignore it |
| 02:01.00 | short_circuit | Global login rejected. Bad token. |
| 02:01.43 | JeffM | yeah that's the message from a cached token |
| 02:01.45 | JeffM | goes to feed |
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| 02:03.25 | short_circuit | At that point you have to re-login with the global username and password and then you get a token listed in your chat box or a local /password that you set in your configuration |
| 02:03.35 | short_circuit | hrm.... |
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| 02:04.12 | short_circuit | Do you have the same problem with stable client? |
| 02:05.11 | bugQ | no. |
| 02:05.49 | short_circuit | I'm at a loss. Stable and trunk seem to operate the same here... |
| 02:05.51 | short_circuit | Hrm |
| 02:06.02 | short_circuit | ... thinking |
| 02:07.33 | short_circuit | Only diff I'm finding is you have to enter your password each time in trunk in windows here heh |
| 02:07.40 | bugQ | same here |
| 02:07.47 | short_circuit | Don't know why 2.0 is caching that and 3.0 is not |
| 02:08.04 | short_circuit | even though I have a 2.0 dir and 3.0 dir in my bzflag files |
| 02:08.41 | short_circuit | would me setting a special trunk server with a special password help you troubleshoot? |
| 02:09.01 | bugQ | I can get "global login approved" on your wartowers server |
| 02:09.21 | short_circuit | How about any of the other trunk servers? |
| 02:09.24 | short_circuit | imagines not |
| 02:11.17 | short_circuit | Say.. bzexcess? |
| 02:11.57 | bugQ | they all seem to work fine |
| 02:12.48 | short_circuit | perhaps I don't have admin group in my config.. |
| 02:13.07 | short_circuit | but that doesn't explain your lack of token as a registered player |
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| 02:15.26 | short_circuit | You CAN get 'global login approve on wartowers and the others in trunk? |
| 02:15.34 | bugQ | ya. |
| 02:16.18 | short_circuit | So you are getting a token? |
| 02:16.59 | JeffM | but not on your server? |
| 02:17.21 | bugQ | erm, I don't see a token in the chat. |
| 02:17.50 | JeffM | servers have to be public to do in game global auth |
| 02:18.02 | JeffM | the webplugin dosn't have to be tho |
| 02:18.09 | JeffM | since it does it's own token check |
| 02:18.21 | bugQ | well that's good to know |
| 02:19.00 | JeffM | that's why I wanted to make sure you had a remote public server for testing :) |
| 02:19.04 | short_circuit | Ok.. I'm confused.. If you got "global login approved" then the "token ######" is par for the course |
| 02:19.54 | bugQ | one would suspect that. |
| 02:20.00 | short_circuit | right |
| 02:24.32 | bugQ | JeffM: what is level -1 for handleAuthedRequest? |
| 02:26.28 | short_circuit | is updating test server to absolute latest r##### |
| 02:27.09 | JeffM | -1 means that they did not have a valid token |
| 02:27.20 | JeffM | aka, an old or malformed request |
| 02:27.28 | JeffM | 0 means a valid token but were not in any groups |
| 02:29.43 | JeffM | belly full, homeward bound |
| 02:30.08 | short_circuit | uno moment please.. about to post my log |
| 02:30.36 | short_circuit | I'm showing you as identifying succesfully |
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| 02:39.18 | short_circuit | I only show one join |
| 02:39.49 | short_circuit | sent private just so you can see I'm showing token and register in server |
| 02:41.18 | short_circuit | And now up with a brand spanking new BZFS |
| 02:44.13 | short_circuit | looks like I need to fix my group.db but regular register player should be fine |
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| 02:48.37 | bugQ | was I supposed to build my own trunk server with my .de account? it won't build, "c-ares library defective or too old" |
| 02:49.01 | short_circuit | Ah.. brlcad was helping you with that right?> |
| 02:49.07 | bugQ | yes. |
| 02:49.32 | JeffM | bugQ: you should be able to build, it'll be a good place for testing |
| 02:49.34 | short_circuit | I was considering offering you an ssh into one of my servers but jeff wants the students test servers to be official on the .de |
| 02:49.52 | JeffM | short_circuit: and no reason to waste your bandwith :) |
| 02:50.10 | Lukstr | Que? |
| 02:50.21 | short_circuit | oki doki |
| 02:50.50 | bugQ | it builds on .bz, but not the best place for it, i suppose |
| 02:51.14 | JeffM | you can use .bz for now, untill the brlcad gets it working on .de |
| 02:51.24 | JeffM | .bz isn't the best place, but it's better then NO place |
| 02:51.39 | bugQ | right, right |
| 02:54.21 | bugQ | i'll just pick some obscure port |
| 03:16.07 | short_circuit | *crickets* again |
| 03:27.41 | bugQ | oh, that's interesting.. |
| 03:33.47 | Lukstr | releases a box of tumbleweesd |
| 03:33.54 | Lukstr | spelt correctly, of course |
| 03:35.08 | bugQ | look at http://bzflag.bz:8472 closely |
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| 03:35.33 | bugQ | look at http://bzflag.bz:8472 closely |
| 03:35.53 | JeffM | failed to connect |
| 03:35.54 | Lukstr | it doesn't load |
| 03:35.57 | delusional | can -a affect MG's behavior? |
| 03:35.59 | bugQ | eh? |
| 03:36.03 | bugQ | oops |
| 03:36.18 | bugQ | try now |
| 03:36.20 | short_circuit | ? |
| 03:36.27 | bugQ | ack. |
| 03:36.37 | bugQ | segfault.. |
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| 03:36.47 | JeffM | time to run it in a debuger and see why |
| 03:41.35 | bugQ | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m46f296cb that looks really fun to debug. :P |
| 03:42.59 | JeffM | put a breakpoint in the fill and see what happens |
| 03:42.59 | bugQ | I'll have to get back to this tomorrow |
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| 03:49.19 | bugQ | bleh. yeah, I'll be back |
| 03:49.55 | short_circuit | :~( |
| 03:50.06 | JeffM | he has to learn the debuger |
| 03:50.10 | JeffM | that is the basics of it |
| 03:58.45 | brlcad | short_circuit: if you want to help him compile on the .de server, you have access (anyone with a .bz account should have access) |
| 03:58.57 | Thumper_ | JeffM: hmmm HTTPServer is listed 4 times in /listplugins on bzflag3.norang.ca:10000 |
| 03:59.32 | Thumper_ | loads webadmin, webReport, webstats, and fastmap |
| 03:59.33 | brlcad | he is/was supposed to compile bz himself on the server, there's nothing preinstalled there |
| 04:01.26 | JeffM | Thumper_: how many HTTP plugins are running? |
| 04:01.46 | Thumper_ | the 4 listed above |
| 04:02.28 | JeffM | no I mean plugins that use it |
| 04:02.40 | JeffM | fastmap, webadmin, webreport, webstats? |
| 04:02.44 | Thumper_ | um yes |
| 04:02.48 | JeffM | all 4? |
| 04:02.50 | Thumper_ | yes |
| 04:02.59 | JeffM | yeah then it was atempted to be loaded 4 times |
| 04:03.02 | JeffM | so that makes sense |
| 04:03.18 | JeffM | only one instance was activated |
| 04:03.19 | Thumper_ | didn't you have code in there to try to limit it only to a single load? or does it need one per plugin? |
| 04:03.28 | JeffM | it still only had one load |
| 04:03.35 | JeffM | only one fully loaded |
| 04:03.42 | JeffM | the others were just calls to loadplugin |
| 04:03.45 | Thumper_ | ok - just looks weird then :) |
| 04:03.50 | JeffM | yeah we should fix that |
| 04:03.53 | JeffM | but I don't think it's a problem |
| 04:04.09 | JeffM | we should only add them to the list if they load and return properly |
| 04:04.16 | Thumper_ | well it's after midnight ... time to turn into a pumpkin |
| 04:04.24 | Thumper_ | yeah that makes sense |
| 04:04.27 | JeffM | see ya |
| 04:04.31 | Thumper_ | night |
| 04:19.01 | Lukstr | Where would I put the boost headers? |
| 04:19.06 | Lukstr | yesterday I just put them in include/boost |
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| 04:20.49 | brlcad | anything that's not ours goes into src/other |
| 04:21.07 | Lukstr | how do I get at it then? |
| 04:21.22 | KingofCamelot | Gah...damn power company should be giving me a discount with the number of times the power is going out. |
| 04:21.32 | Lukstr | well you're not getting charged for usage... |
| 04:21.34 | brlcad | so src/other/boost and make the corresonding configure.ac mods to add the cppflag |
| 04:21.56 | KingofCamelot | But I want to be able to use it :P |
| 04:21.57 | brlcad | no different than the other external dependencies |
| 04:22.04 | Lukstr | I see |
| 04:22.33 | brlcad | should have appropriate configure checks to force compilation on/off and auto-detect available system boost too |
| 04:22.54 | Lukstr | :S |
| 04:23.07 | brlcad | don't fret |
| 04:23.08 | Lukstr | I'll do that after I'm sure it will even work :P |
| 04:23.11 | brlcad | you have a half-dozen examples |
| 04:24.08 | Lukstr | should it go under DIST_SUBDIRS or EXTRA_DIST in src/other/Makefile.am? |
| 04:25.46 | brlcad | it could go under either -- if you use DIST_SUBDIRS then you have to add Makefile.am's for each subdir; if you use EXTRA_DIST, you just list the dir and it auto-recurses |
| 04:26.08 | Lukstr | the latter then |
| 04:26.23 | brlcad | auto-recurses and adds everything to the source distribution (including .svn dirs, but we have rules that later strip them out) |
| 04:30.24 | Lukstr | any hints about where in configure.ac I should start? |
| 04:31.36 | Lukstr | it's not actually compiling anything, so this is odd |
| 04:43.39 | Lukstr | is confused |
| 05:00.27 | brlcad | look at the -build flags in configure.ac -- that's how you can set variables for forcing it on/off (which merely affects subsequent configure testing) |
| 05:00.44 | Lukstr | alright, for now, and since it's not truly boost |
| 05:00.45 | brlcad | e.g. how libregex is turned on/off |
| 05:01.03 | Lukstr | I'm going to leave it non-toggleable until later |
| 05:02.46 | brlcad | you (fortunately) only need to set CPPFLAGS (e.g. BOOST_CPPFLAGS) that will either be empty (detected system boost headers and enable-boost-build was no) or will be '$(top_srcdir)/src/other' (if system boost header failed or enable-boost-build was yes) |
| 05:03.02 | Lukstr | where do I throw that? |
| 05:03.17 | Lukstr | arond where CPPFLAGS="$CPPFLAGS $FT@_CFLAGS" etc? |
| 05:03.29 | Lukstr | er, FT2_CFLAGS |
| 05:04.10 | brlcad | sounds about right |
| 05:04.25 | brlcad | freetype has its own m4 test file and sets CFLAGS instead of CPPFLAGS |
| 05:04.39 | Lukstr | right well I'll just prepend to cppflags |
| 05:04.44 | brlcad | CPPFLAGS is more correct since it's a -I include directive |
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| 05:05.32 | Lukstr | CONF_CPPFLAGS or CPPFLAGS |
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| 05:06.33 | brlcad | if you don't add the rest of the checks, it really doesn't matter at this point |
| 05:06.57 | Lukstr | I will add them eventually, just don't have time tonight |
| 05:07.13 | brlcad | if you just want to test for yourself, you don't even need to mod configure.ac -- you can always add/set compilation flags during 'make' |
| 05:07.23 | Lukstr | that's true |
| 05:07.27 | brlcad | e.g., make CPPFLAGS="-Isrc/other" |
| 05:07.46 | brlcad | depending on where you are and what it's compiling |
| 05:08.14 | brlcad | might get more mileage out of CPPFLAGS='-I$(top_srcdir)/src/other' or somesuch |
| 05:08.28 | Lukstr | aye, I'm going with that for now |
| 05:09.38 | Lukstr | watches some tumbleweeds |
| 05:09.41 | Lukstr | CIA still borked? |
| 05:09.48 | Lukstr | oh |
| 05:09.52 | brlcad | yes |
| 05:09.59 | Lukstr | shakes CIA-35 |
| 05:10.01 | brlcad | i've got a ticket in to get it fixed |
| 05:10.05 | Lukstr | heh |
| 05:10.15 | brlcad | it's not cia, sf.net seems to have broken their hook |
| 05:10.20 | Lukstr | oh well |
| 05:10.43 | brlcad | it's already marked high-priority, so it'll probably get fixed in a day or two |
| 05:10.51 | Lukstr | it's been down for a while, no? |
| 05:11.03 | brlcad | since last monday |
| 05:11.11 | Lukstr | man this commit might take a while |
| 05:11.16 | brlcad | but nobody that knew reported it to them |
| 05:11.33 | Lukstr | 21M :S |
| 05:11.47 | brlcad | wasn't till friday that I verified it didn't seem to be cia's fault |
| 05:12.01 | brlcad | no rpc connection attempts from sf.net |
| 05:12.10 | Lukstr | svn's transmitting "dot bar" is fairly useless :P |
| 05:12.32 | Lukstr | I've already god a terminal screen of dots |
| 05:12.36 | brlcad | sf.net is migrating their datacenter to chicago, new high-performance svn servers too .. undoubtedly related configuration issue during the migration |
| 05:12.50 | Lukstr | heh |
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| 05:15.16 | JeffM | lightfeather dev is going to work on right hand rule next week :) |
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| 05:16.44 | Lukstr | fantastic |
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| 05:30.00 | Lukstr | alright, I'm off till tomorrow. Driving test tomorrow so I'll be absent midafternoon. |
| 05:30.07 | JeffM | good luck |
| 05:30.11 | Lukstr | thanks |
| 05:30.16 | Lukstr | I'll try not to kill too many people |
| 05:30.22 | Lukstr | this time. |
| 05:30.29 | blast007 | Lukstr: I'll remember to keep off the sidewalks |
| 05:30.48 | Lukstr | should uninstall carmageddon... |
| 05:31.09 | Lukstr | zz |
| 05:31.46 | blast007 | hehe, that game rocked... |
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| 06:37.11 | ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/08/body_found_reiser/ <-- so I guess it's official... |
| 06:55.15 | BulletCatcher | That's one killer file system. |
| 06:55.26 | blast007 | *rimshot* |
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| 15:08.51 | CIA-35 | bzflag: 03timriker * r100 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: more oneport hacking |
| 15:11.03 | brlcad | testing CIA commit notifications, please ignore |
| 15:29.20 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03wyk3d * r18025 10/trunk/bzauthd/ (8 files in 3 dirs): |
| 15:29.20 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * Added more logging |
| 15:29.20 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * Other cleanups |
| 15:29.56 | Wyk3d | wooo :D |
| 15:30.08 | Wyk3d | cheers @ CIA |
| 15:35.14 | BulletCatcher | congratulates CIA-35 |
| 15:39.38 | brlcad | laments that we couldn't actually find the problem |
| 15:39.46 | brlcad | burley blames cia isp, but all indications still seem to point to an sf problem |
| 15:39.51 | brlcad | it's working because we switched it over from using xmlrpc to using e-mails |
| 15:49.18 | BulletCatcher | That's better than not working at all. Thanks for fixing it. |
| 15:55.56 | brlcad | pita |
| 15:56.03 | brlcad | glad to have it back, though |
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| 16:26.17 | Qhestion | i am trying to compile bzflag on kubuntu 8.04, but after a while make gives me the following error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext |
| 16:26.36 | Qhestion | now, what the hell is "-lXext" ? |
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| 16:27.28 | brlcad | Qhestion: the X11 extensions library |
| 16:27.40 | brlcad | probably a separate dev install |
| 16:27.58 | Qhestion | libx11-dev ?? |
| 16:28.41 | blast007 | are you building with SDL? |
| 16:28.51 | Qhestion | i dont know |
| 16:29.06 | Qhestion | just ./autogen.sh, ./configure |
| 16:29.19 | Qhestion | and then make |
| 16:29.31 | blast007 | I think configure would tell you at the end of the output |
| 16:29.40 | Qhestion | but i remember configure said i am using SDL |
| 16:29.41 | Qhestion | yeah |
| 16:29.46 | blast007 | k |
| 16:30.17 | Qhestion | is that good or bad? |
| 16:30.38 | Qhestion | somewhere in the bzflag forums it was hinted that compiling with SDL support doesnt work... |
| 16:30.42 | blast007 | that's good |
| 16:31.13 | blast007 | x11proto-xext-dev maybe? |
| 16:31.40 | Qhestion | ok thats something new |
| 16:32.01 | Qhestion | no, same error |
| 16:32.06 | blast007 | I'd never heard of that error before |
| 16:32.15 | blast007 | (well, that speicific lib, anyway) |
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| 16:33.23 | Qhestion | ok. i'll try the version "apt-get source" fetches for me. |
| 16:33.24 | blast007 | hello bugQ |
| 16:33.30 | bugQ | yo |
| 16:34.55 | Wyk3d | question: when doing client integration for auth, should I use the net classes I wrote for the daemon or try to adapt the bzflag/bzfs netcode to work with it ? |
| 16:36.47 | Wyk3d | JBdiGriz: ping |
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| 16:47.57 | Qhestion | blast007: the correct package was "libxext6". |
| 16:48.08 | blast007 | k |
| 16:48.18 | Qhestion | ok make is done |
| 16:48.32 | Qhestion | yay it even runs |
| 16:48.37 | blast007 | :) |
| 16:49.33 | Qhestion | thanks =) |
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| 16:54.03 | Lukstr | compiling with SDL support doesn't work? |
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| 16:55.51 | blast007 | Lukstr: no, it does |
| 16:56.10 | Lukstr | scared me for a moment |
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| 17:00.03 | JeffM | SDL better work :) |
| 17:00.35 | JeffM | Wyk3d, just use what you wrote for the deamon, don't bother mucking with bzflag code, we can do that later |
| 17:00.57 | JeffM | we want you to get the auth part done, not the nuts and bolts of sockets :) |
| 17:01.17 | JeffM | having someone else go in and adapt the bzflag net classes will be good experience in getting others to know your codebase |
| 17:05.51 | Wyk3d | ok thanks :) |
| 17:07.55 | Wyk3d | btw .. have those TCPConnection classes been tested properly ? |
| 17:08.13 | JeffM | there are used in libIRC |
| 17:08.13 | Wyk3d | i think they can hang under certain circustances .. |
| 17:08.19 | JeffM | they may |
| 17:08.43 | JeffM | if you can provide a test case I and others can work on them |
| 17:08.53 | JeffM | I've tested them with IRC bots running for days and weeks |
| 17:08.57 | Wyk3d | well i can tell you exactly what's the problem :) |
| 17:09.01 | JeffM | but they may not have hit all possible cases |
| 17:09.06 | JeffM | ok, then just fix it |
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| 17:09.38 | JeffM | I'll move your fixes back over |
| 17:10.05 | Wyk3d | btw don't add the current changes to TCPConnection back, they actually make things worse :) |
| 17:10.13 | JeffM | ok |
| 17:10.14 | Wyk3d | the correct readData code is in the new classes i wrote |
| 17:10.25 | JeffM | I'll wait to add them back till the SoC is over |
| 17:10.29 | JeffM | but fix whatever you need |
| 17:10.43 | Wyk3d | i wrote new classes that should fix the issue |
| 17:10.48 | JeffM | coo |
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| 17:22.39 | randomparticle | slaps Birdie around a bit with a large trout |
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| 17:28.07 | randomparticle | is the directx sdk necessary for building bz under windows? |
| 17:28.25 | JeffM | yes |
| 17:28.33 | JeffM | it's used for joystick and sound |
| 17:28.34 | randomparticle | anything smaller i can download? |
| 17:28.42 | JeffM | you want the april 2007 SDK |
| 17:28.44 | JeffM | nope |
| 17:28.45 | randomparticle | it's over 400MB |
| 17:28.49 | JeffM | and? |
| 17:29.01 | randomparticle | that's a lot :) |
| 17:29.04 | JeffM | and? |
| 17:29.13 | JeffM | should take like an hour |
| 17:29.24 | randomparticle | depends on your connection, doesn't it? |
| 17:29.36 | randomparticle | how could you possibly know how long it will take? |
| 17:29.46 | JeffM | modern broadband is mostly in the same range |
| 17:29.52 | randomparticle | assumptions... |
| 17:30.01 | JeffM | what is your connection? |
| 17:30.27 | randomparticle | i can't download that now, because i'll exceed the fair usage policy |
| 17:30.40 | randomparticle | which is no more than 300MB in peak hours |
| 17:30.47 | JeffM | wow, how much warze and pr0n do you download? |
| 17:30.52 | JeffM | you need a new ISP |
| 17:31.07 | JeffM | techincaly you could build an SDL version |
| 17:31.08 | randomparticle | it's £5 per month :) |
| 17:31.32 | JeffM | the VC projects arn't setup to build with SDL tho |
| 17:31.43 | JeffM | so you'd have to change the configurations by hand |
| 17:31.48 | ruskie | yeah... that would certainly cause it to be seriously trothled... |
| 17:32.20 | randomparticle | ah, ok |
| 17:33.17 | JeffM | since you spoke of asumtions, are you building with visual C++? |
| 17:33.39 | randomparticle | that's what i'm trying first |
| 17:33.43 | JeffM | what version? |
| 17:34.09 | randomparticle | express 9.0 |
| 17:34.20 | JeffM | what version of bz? |
| 17:34.41 | randomparticle | i just grabbed the 2.0.10 tarball for starters |
| 17:34.47 | JeffM | that won't work in 9 |
| 17:34.50 | randomparticle | k |
| 17:35.00 | JeffM | it will with VC8 |
| 17:35.13 | JeffM | trunk may build with 9, but it's techincaly unsuported at thist ime |
| 17:35.31 | randomparticle | i can wait :) |
| 17:35.33 | JeffM | trunk desuported 7.1 and went to 8 only, but I hear 9 works using the 8 projects |
| 17:36.03 | JeffM | the 8 projects in branch have some problems and don't link the manifests correctly in VC9 |
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| 17:36.46 | JeffM | brlcad, did SF just like block all connections from CIA? I can't even get it to connect to the URL. |
| 17:41.34 | randomparticle | is there a 64-bit build of bzflag? |
| 17:41.43 | JeffM | on linux sure |
| 17:41.45 | JeffM | on windows no |
| 17:41.54 | JeffM | there is no reason to build one |
| 17:42.23 | JeffM | on windows a 64 bit build is actualy slower |
| 17:42.28 | JeffM | and uses more ram |
| 17:42.46 | randomparticle | i read 64-bit is faster generally (about 15%_ |
| 17:42.51 | JeffM | it isn't |
| 17:43.13 | randomparticle | why do the 64-bit benchmarks run faster? |
| 17:43.15 | JeffM | most CPUs can optimise 32 bit code to be faster ( twice the pointers in cache, etc) |
| 17:43.31 | JeffM | probably bevause it's code that takes advantage of 64 math and memory |
| 17:43.36 | randomparticle | i see |
| 17:43.48 | JeffM | it can be faster sure, if you take advantage of those things that 64 bit is good at |
| 17:43.49 | randomparticle | 64-bit photoshop supposedly runs faster too |
| 17:44.00 | JeffM | yeah it does lots of math on large data items |
| 17:44.13 | JeffM | so it can do the math on a 64 bit item in 1/2 the ops |
| 17:44.19 | randomparticle | ah |
| 17:44.21 | JeffM | we don't do much math like that |
| 17:44.31 | JeffM | we mostly deal with 32 bit data |
| 17:44.45 | randomparticle | speed isn't much of an issue, to be honest, on most 64-bit setups |
| 17:44.45 | JeffM | photoshop also can use more then 4 gigs of ram |
| 17:44.53 | JeffM | yeah it's ram size |
| 17:44.57 | randomparticle | bzflag doesn't exactly crush a modern system |
| 17:45.01 | JeffM | nope |
| 17:45.13 | JeffM | I build a 64 bit windows version and was not impressed |
| 17:45.46 | JeffM | it's not like the jump from 16 to 32 where you coudl sudently get.. longs |
| 17:45.54 | JeffM | most apps don't need more then 32bit data |
| 17:46.12 | JeffM | sure we could move all our math over to 64 bit doubles |
| 17:46.17 | JeffM | it may be slightly faster then |
| 17:46.22 | JeffM | at the cost of 2x the memory |
| 17:46.37 | JeffM | and 1/2 the memory bandwith since everything is twice as large |
| 17:46.41 | JeffM | so it'd not be worth it |
| 17:46.43 | randomparticle | when do you think 64-bit windows will be mainstream? |
| 17:46.58 | JeffM | windows 7 will probalby try to do it by default |
| 17:47.08 | randomparticle | i'd hope so |
| 17:47.24 | JeffM | 64 bit windows is nice, as it runs 32 bits apps nearly flawelessly |
| 17:47.33 | JeffM | there is only one kind of 32bit app I can't run |
| 17:47.45 | randomparticle | yeah. i'm running 64-bit server 2008 now. it's sweet |
| 17:48.07 | randomparticle | zonealarm? :) |
| 17:48.10 | JeffM | no |
| 17:48.15 | JeffM | shell extensions |
| 17:48.20 | randomparticle | i see |
| 17:48.30 | JeffM | the 64 bit explorer can't load the 32bit shell extension Dlls |
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| 17:48.50 | randomparticle | looking around a local computer shop the other day.. nearly every machine had maxxed out memory |
| 17:48.55 | JeffM | that's basicly the only limit, 64 bit apps can't load 32bit modules |
| 17:49.00 | randomparticle | i.e., pushing 4GB |
| 17:49.09 | JeffM | I have 8 at home |
| 17:49.25 | randomparticle | max for 32-bit windows without 'hacks' |
| 17:49.41 | JeffM | you can't even realy hack it to over 4 |
| 17:49.53 | JeffM | most hacks just remove the 2 gig limit on apps and bump it to 4 |
| 17:51.16 | JeffM | 64 bit vista is easy to get now, so More people will sell it |
| 17:52.47 | randomparticle | would be nice if the oems were a little more proactive |
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| 17:52.58 | JeffM | they have been shipping it for a while |
| 17:53.17 | JeffM | but like I say, I'll bet windows 7 will be the big push for it |
| 17:53.24 | JeffM | most home systems ship with 3 gigs now |
| 17:53.27 | randomparticle | yeah, but you're average user will end up with a 32-bit version by default |
| 17:53.32 | randomparticle | *your |
| 17:53.32 | JeffM | and that's fine for most users |
| 17:53.36 | randomparticle | yep |
| 17:53.40 | JeffM | yeah and they won't need anything else |
| 17:53.45 | JeffM | untill that machine dies |
| 17:53.52 | randomparticle | but ultimately it'll help the transition if more people move now |
| 17:53.54 | JeffM | home users don't run big apps |
| 17:54.05 | randomparticle | i.e., with respect to drivers etc |
| 17:54.40 | JeffM | they will ahve to make 64 and 32bit drivers for years and years to come |
| 17:54.49 | JeffM | the low end laptop market will see to that |
| 17:54.59 | JeffM | not every computer is a power user computer ;) |
| 17:58.11 | Constitution | Did someone delete the full-screen radar discussion on the forums? |
| 17:58.25 | JeffM | yes |
| 17:58.41 | whodaman- | blast IIRC |
| 17:58.45 | JeffM | since it was already mentioned in the enhancemnt FAQ as something to not sugest |
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| 18:01.27 | JBdiGriz | Wyk3d: pong |
| 18:01.55 | blast007 | whodaman-: I didn't delete it.. |
| 18:02.07 | whodaman- | blast007, ah, I thought Winny talked to you about it |
| 18:02.10 | whodaman- | nevermind then |
| 18:02.24 | blast007 | talking to me about it and me actually doing it are different |
| 18:02.49 | JeffM | JBdiGriz, I think I answerd his question |
| 18:03.03 | JeffM | it was about wether or not use the networking classes he had, or rework the bzflag ones. |
| 18:03.16 | JeffM | I told him to use the ones he had and we can refactor the bzflag ones later |
| 18:03.33 | whodaman- | blast007, heh, I gathered as much. Just thought you were the one, sorry :) |
| 18:03.46 | JBdiGriz | After reviewing the conversation, I think you're right, but I tend to answer first, since I don't expect people to be staring at IRC. ;) |
| 18:03.59 | JBdiGriz | Unless of course, it's JeffM :D |
| 18:04.14 | JeffM | is bored |
| 18:04.31 | JeffM | and I had just finished my evails :) |
| 18:07.06 | JBdiGriz | is not bored these days. |
| 18:07.26 | JeffM | get your apt set up? |
| 18:08.07 | JBdiGriz | I finished putting together the computer desk last week. That was a monster. |
| 18:08.23 | randomparticle | 8 legged desk? |
| 18:08.23 | JBdiGriz | Besides a computer desk, and a bed, I don't need much. |
| 18:08.57 | JBdiGriz | 4 legs, 4 panels on the floor. |
| 18:09.40 | JBdiGriz | http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/924296/RS-Empire-Computer-Workstation-With-Integrated/ |
| 18:10.02 | randomparticle | blimey |
| 18:10.07 | JeffM | ewww |
| 18:10.11 | JeffM | L shaped FTW! |
| 18:10.15 | blast007 | ah, yeah, saw that one when I was shopping for desks recently... it was too big ;) |
| 18:10.30 | randomparticle | easier to assemble the house in the desk, perhaps |
| 18:11.09 | JBdiGriz | I like having a big desk, since I typically have at least 2 machines and a network switch on various parts of it. |
| 18:13.15 | JBdiGriz | I don't have a deskside machine right now, so I'll probably modify that big cabinet on the right side to hold a mini sized machine. |
| 18:18.20 | JeffM | I usualy get one with a raised monitor platform |
| 18:19.53 | JBdiGriz | My current LCD monitor has adjustable height |
| 18:20.38 | bugQ | trying to write an update-build-restart script...so autogen.sh deals with configure.ac and Makefile.am, make deals with .h, .c, .cxx, .cpp, and what about configure? |
| 18:20.51 | Think_Differentl | is looking at L-shaped desks right now |
| 18:21.02 | JeffM | configre builds the makefiles |
| 18:21.06 | bugQ | I want to see if I cant detect which files were updated and skip unnecessary steps |
| 18:21.06 | JeffM | from the results of autogen |
| 18:21.13 | bugQ | right, and that's it? |
| 18:21.28 | JeffM | if none of the .ac and .am's are updated then you do not need to configure again |
| 18:21.42 | bugQ | k. |
| 18:21.52 | JeffM | if they are, it's simplest to just autogen, configre, then make |
| 18:21.57 | JeffM | if they arn't, just make |
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| 19:18.14 | tj13820 | does CoAM have a channel? |
| 19:20.24 | JeffM | check the channel list |
| 19:20.28 | whodaman- | wonders what CoAM must stand for |
| 19:20.49 | whodaman- | Customer Owned And Maintained? :P |
| 19:21.47 | JeffM | Commitie of Atomic Marsupials |
| 19:23.09 | bugQ | nuclear wombats, etc. |
| 19:23.34 | JeffM | they can be very effective |
| 19:25.23 | Constitution | ~dict Marsupials |
| 19:25.38 | JeffM | pouch |
| 19:25.48 | Constitution | thx |
| 19:27.40 | delusional | Is that a nuclear missile in your pocket... or.. |
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| 19:33.10 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18026 10/trunk/bzview/ (6 files in 4 dirs): hook into lightfeather and draw a basic sceene |
| 19:33.20 | JeffM | awww CIA, welcome back |
| 19:34.05 | bugQ | yay |
| 19:34.19 | JeffM | anyone want to try building lightfeather on linux? |
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| 19:42.43 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18027 10/trunk/bzview/data/ (8 files): more images to use for testing. |
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| 20:23.08 | Winny | can anyone think of a reason when I go into windowed mode, the window is 2x as big as my screen? |
| 20:23.12 | Lukstr | reports success. |
| 20:23.29 | Lukstr | Winny |
| 20:23.37 | Lukstr | you run at a resolution double your desktop one |
| 20:23.41 | Lukstr | so in fullscreen your monitor adjusts |
| 20:23.44 | Lukstr | in windowed it's just huge |
| 20:23.48 | Lukstr | perhaps :P |
| 20:23.59 | Winny | nope |
| 20:24.28 | Lukstr | a ghost in the code? |
| 20:24.43 | Winny | it's fine if I fix it, go fullscreen, then back to windowed |
| 20:24.56 | Winny | but if I quit then go windowed it poops :( |
| 20:25.09 | JeffM | your geometry setting in your config is wacky |
| 20:25.54 | Winny | hmm, I'll take a peek |
| 20:26.16 | Winny | ah yeah |
| 20:26.23 | Winny | set resolution "1680x1050 " - all sorts of extra spaces |
| 20:26.24 | Winny | odd |
| 20:27.15 | JeffM | you are on a mac? |
| 20:27.43 | Winny | yeah |
| 20:27.53 | JeffM | yeah they don't do the refresh cus it's SDL |
| 20:28.24 | Winny | oh hmm |
| 20:28.27 | Winny | any way to fix it? |
| 20:28.33 | Winny | it works on my macbook, just not on here |
| 20:28.34 | JeffM | blow it out |
| 20:28.51 | Winny | the whole config? -_- |
| 20:29.00 | JeffM | res and geometry lines |
| 20:29.05 | Winny | ah |
| 20:29.47 | Winny | yay, works |
| 20:29.48 | Winny | thanks |
| 20:34.05 | Winny | hmm, fedex is late |
| 20:35.07 | Lukstr | I got my book from amazon today |
| 20:35.15 | Lukstr | writing cross platform software |
| 20:35.24 | Lukstr | or something to that effect |
| 20:38.04 | Winny | I still havent cracked open my cocoa book |
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| 20:51.22 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18028 10/trunk/bzview/ (MSVC/VC8/bzview.vcproj inc/bzview.h src/bzview.cpp): add some sample lights and shadows |
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| 22:52.33 | chris10184 | heya |
| 22:52.40 | spldart | whaddup? |
| 22:53.13 | chris10184 | hmm, nothing really, just on internet, :), you?:) |
| 22:53.27 | spldart | Heh |
| 22:53.31 | chris10184 | :P |
| 22:53.44 | spldart | Headache severe but otherwise ok |
| 22:53.53 | chris10184 | unlucky, :( |
| 22:54.05 | spldart | no sweat |
| 22:54.09 | chris10184 | valium?, lol |
| 22:54.13 | spldart | now now |
| 22:54.18 | chris10184 | jokes, :P |
| 22:54.21 | spldart | k |
| 22:54.52 | chris10184 | you dont like the V idea |
| 22:55.06 | spldart | points at the now now comment |
| 22:55.17 | spldart | This is an official bzflag dev channel |
| 22:55.26 | spldart | Dont' wanna get to much off topic ;) |
| 22:56.23 | chris10184 | ok, :), i didn't know what you meant, with "now now" cause it could either be, now i want it now or now now, (meaning dont be so off-topic), lol |
| 22:56.38 | chris10184 | :S, :P |
| 22:56.45 | spldart | IC |
| 22:56.52 | Flash | looks for the now now comment |
| 22:57.01 | chris10184 | heh |
| 22:57.02 | spldart | ^ |
| 22:57.18 | spldart | You play bzflag chris##### |
| 22:57.48 | chris10184 | do i play?, or you think i should play now?, :P |
| 22:58.09 | spldart | Do you play bz? |
| 22:58.17 | chris10184 | yea, :P |
| 22:58.21 | spldart | Far be it for me to tell you what I think you should do now :) |
| 22:59.01 | chris10184 | i have been playing for a few years now, but mainly on missilewar, i started GU a few weeks ago |
| 22:59.04 | Flash | tells spldart to take 2 aspirin and a nap |
| 22:59.24 | chris10184 | lol |
| 22:59.30 | spldart | thinks everyone wants him to take drugs heh |
| 22:59.39 | spldart | ibuprofen ftw |
| 22:59.46 | Flash | well, you normally drink heavily... |
| 22:59.56 | spldart | Do I? |
| 23:00.04 | Flash | don't you? :-0 |
| 23:00.12 | chris10184 | Ofcource you do |
| 23:00.27 | spldart | o_O |
| 23:02.17 | chris10184 | would it be against the rules to go more off-topic with more painkiller selections. |
| 23:02.23 | spldart | Yes |
| 23:02.26 | JeffM | very |
| 23:02.34 | spldart | Lets stick to more bzflag oriented topics |
| 23:02.36 | JeffM | as far as I've seen you've not been on topic yet |
| 23:03.00 | chris10184 | is worried, :P |
| 23:03.05 | spldart | Good. |
| 23:03.15 | spldart | Lets get more serious. |
| 23:03.40 | chris10184 | what do people talk about here then? |
| 23:03.49 | spldart | BZflag development. |
| 23:03.49 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03jwmelto * r18029 10/branches/v2_99_net_branch/ (8 files in 4 dirs): |
| 23:03.49 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: Clean up NetHandler |
| 23:03.49 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: Add first two protocol message classes (EchoRequest, EchoResponse) |
| 23:04.14 | SpazzyMcGee | points at #bzchat |
| 23:04.14 | chris10184 | hmm, ok |
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| 23:05.05 | chris10184 | @ |
| 23:05.09 | chris10184 | ok |
| 23:05.13 | chris10184 | cya people |
| 23:05.20 | chris10184 | :) |
| 23:05.46 | JeffM | updates the list server usage policy with good words like "private property" |
| 23:05.47 | JeffM | :) |
| 23:07.04 | Flash | Windows sockets are unsigned, right? |
| 23:07.14 | JeffM | probably |
| 23:07.27 | Flash | what does socket() return on failure? |
| 23:07.51 | JeffM | looking |
| 23:08.17 | JeffM | INVALID_SOCKET |
| 23:08.25 | JeffM | If no error occurs, socket returns a descriptor referencing the new socket. Otherwise, a value of INVALID_SOCKET is returned, and a specific error code can be retrieved by calling WSAGetLastError. |
| 23:08.34 | Flash | ok |
| 23:08.42 | JeffM | it is not an int tho |
| 23:08.45 | JeffM | it's a SOCKET |
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| 23:08.53 | JeffM | so you should have a typedef that does that |
| 23:08.59 | JeffM | and makes it an int on linux |
| 23:09.00 | Flash | right, we have the typedefs somewhere in net |
| 23:09.43 | Flash | network.h |
| 23:09.44 | JeffM | you do know that all of MSDN is online right? |
| 23:09.47 | JeffM | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms740506(VS.85).aspx |
| 23:09.49 | Flash | nope |
| 23:09.54 | Flash | now I do ;-) |
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| 23:46.13 | Lukstr | yay, more power outages. |
| 23:46.24 | Lukstr | hopes Thumper_ didn't forget to tell me he was sending me a storm |
| 23:46.33 | Lukstr | s/me/him/ |
| 23:49.00 | spldart | Wow.. you have as many power interuptions as I do ;) |
| 23:49.49 | Lukstr | insane random thunderstorm today |
| 23:51.10 | Epyon | generates a storm procedurally and sends it via ghostwheel to Luke |
| 23:52.32 | Lukstr | replaces Epyon's pseudorandom number generator so it only returns 4's. |
| 23:53.16 | Lukstr | storm number two is here |