| 00:00.51 | JeffM2501 | stickers add horespower! |
| 00:01.03 | JeffM2501 | bugQ, we just need to get brlcad to wake up |
| 00:01.17 | bugQ | knocks on brlcad's door |
| 00:01.40 | Constitution | Winny: that makes no sense... there are two pink/peach categories :P |
| 00:02.11 | Winny | because they are similar ;) |
| 00:02.17 | F687s | laughs at people who take humor seriously. |
| 00:03.09 | Winny | ooh, 8pm, something must be on TV |
| 00:03.23 | Constitution | frowns at people who take grave issues lightly |
| 00:03.27 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r17310 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/BackgroundRenderer.cxx: draw mountains and clouds when paused or blinded, 'cause they're pretty. also works around a gstate bug with blanking, so no more white screens. fixes #1922752. |
| 00:03.42 | Erroneous | sends Constitution a grave or two |
| 00:03.44 | Erroneous | ```` |
| 00:04.03 | Lukstr | oooo |
| 00:04.08 | F687s | Laughing at grave issues and seriously analyzing humor are two different things. |
| 00:05.27 | bugQ | sure, one makes you look like a jerk, and the other makes you look like a dweeb. |
| 00:05.59 | Winny | jweeb |
| 00:06.12 | SpazzyMcGee | Hopefully my T-Shirt will arrive in a few days. |
| 00:06.16 | SpazzyMcGee | The US Postal tracking seems to not work. |
| 00:06.30 | bugQ | I got mine! |
| 00:06.50 | bugQ | a bit different color than I thought, but still awesome |
| 00:06.59 | Erroneous | yay, one more release-blocking bug knocked out |
| 00:07.13 | L4m3r | bugQ: what color did you get? |
| 00:07.20 | bugQ | metro blue. |
| 00:07.26 | L4m3r | heh, me too. I like it. |
| 00:07.40 | L4m3r | brighter than I thought... which is a good thing |
| 00:07.48 | L4m3r | (I also got a blindingly bright orange shirt) |
| 00:08.03 | bugQ | hee, nice |
| 00:08.17 | SpazzyMcGee | heh |
| 00:09.13 | bugQ | I've always wanted to be on an orange team |
| 00:09.23 | L4m3r | play rabbit hunt :P |
| 00:09.33 | bugQ | oh, well there is that. |
| 00:10.18 | JeffM2501 | L4m3r, you'll never get lost in that shirt, they can see you from space! |
| 00:10.25 | L4m3r | :P |
| 00:11.17 | blast007 | "What's that bright spot on Google Maps?" |
| 00:13.21 | Winny | "oh that's lamer... long story" |
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| 00:16.18 | Constitution | that's more like it... 186KB diff |
| 00:16.39 | Constitution | trunk @ 17268 to branch @ HEAD, right? |
| 00:18.41 | Erroneous | yeah |
| 00:18.46 | Erroneous | minus diffs in platform |
| 00:18.54 | Constitution | okay |
| 00:18.58 | Erroneous | which are my fault...got checked into trunk at 17272 or something |
| 00:19.19 | Erroneous | that's a bit more managable than 6mb, eh? :) |
| 00:19.33 | Constitution | yeah :) |
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| 00:19.59 | Constitution | was trying to use the unix 'diff' utility, which was going through all the SVN system files too |
| 00:20.04 | Erroneous | eep |
| 00:20.10 | Erroneous | svn diff can do three-way diffs |
| 00:22.08 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r17311 10/trunk/bzflag/BUGS: pause display is ok now |
| 00:24.37 | Mets | did we change fonts to DejaVu? |
| 00:25.00 | Erroneous | only if a given translator wants it |
| 00:25.07 | Erroneous | russian only right now |
| 00:36.57 | Mets | eh, r17311 crashing on start up for me |
| 00:37.23 | blast007 | client? |
| 00:37.27 | Mets | yeah |
| 00:37.31 | blast007 | fun |
| 00:37.37 | blast007 | build debug and find out why ;) |
| 00:37.41 | blast007 | debugger ftw |
| 00:40.23 | Mets | building with debug |
| 00:41.32 | spldart | man! finally back |
| 00:41.34 | spldart | k |
| 00:41.42 | spldart | crash? what os? |
| 00:50.28 | bugQ | dangit, L4m3r, now I want an orange shirt too |
| 00:50.34 | L4m3r | :P |
| 00:53.16 | spldart | spldart's newegg package is in route to my county |
| 00:56.36 | spldart | I hate it when I switch person mid sentence |
| 01:00.45 | JeffM2501 | what did you get? |
| 01:02.11 | Mets | crashed on windows; in msvc when i click to run the debugger, it says libcurl.dll not found |
| 01:02.30 | Mets | worked fine a little while ago, all i did was update to 17311 and recompile |
| 01:03.05 | Mets | libcurl.dll is in the directory where the exe file is also |
| 01:04.07 | JeffM2501 | Mets, you have to set the command and working dir |
| 01:04.26 | blast007 | it's trying to launch src/bzflag/bzflag.exe instead |
| 01:04.30 | JeffM2501 | in the project properties |
| 01:04.41 | JeffM2501 | yeah set the command to the one in the root of the tree |
| 01:04.47 | JeffM2501 | and set the working dir to the same place |
| 01:04.49 | JeffM2501 | then it'll all work |
| 01:04.53 | JeffM2501 | the readme should mention this |
| 01:04.58 | blast007 | is there a reason we default it to that? |
| 01:05.37 | JeffM2501 | because we can't change it ;) |
| 01:05.41 | JeffM2501 | it's not part of the project |
| 01:05.42 | Mets | JeffM2501: even if I use the exe i compiled in the root of the tree? |
| 01:05.53 | JeffM2501 | Mets, define use |
| 01:06.09 | Mets | I double-click on bzflag.exe in the root of the tree |
| 01:06.11 | JeffM2501 | blast007, that part is stored in local settings that we don't check in cus the path is not the same |
| 01:06.20 | blast007 | ah |
| 01:06.21 | JeffM2501 | Mets,and it says it can't find the dll? |
| 01:06.33 | spldart | just updated to 17311 as well and is building to test windows |
| 01:06.53 | Mets | no, that just tries to load the start up screen, then crashes; if I click the play button to debug in msvc it says it can't find the dll |
| 01:07.02 | JeffM2501 | those are seperate issues |
| 01:07.05 | spldart | oh |
| 01:07.06 | spldart | yeah |
| 01:07.08 | Mets | oh |
| 01:07.10 | JeffM2501 | to debug it you have to set the command |
| 01:07.13 | JeffM2501 | and the working dir |
| 01:07.21 | JeffM2501 | then you can find out why it crashes |
| 01:07.26 | Mets | ok, so to address why it crashes i do that |
| 01:07.27 | Mets | right |
| 01:07.34 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 01:07.51 | *** part/#bzflag gravygoat (n=gravygoa@kgldgaambas07-pool22-a241.kgldgaam.tds.net) |
| 01:07.59 | JeffM2501 | the debuger defaults to the build target, but the client is not setup to run from that folder, it wants the data dir to be in the same place as the EXE |
| 01:08.04 | JeffM2501 | that's why we copy an exe to the root |
| 01:08.06 | Mets | so this is project-properties-debugging-working dir? |
| 01:08.06 | JeffM2501 | and the dll |
| 01:08.13 | JeffM2501 | working dir AND the command |
| 01:08.17 | JeffM2501 | set the command to the exe |
| 01:08.21 | JeffM2501 | that is in the root |
| 01:08.26 | JeffM2501 | and the working dir to the root |
| 01:08.31 | JeffM2501 | then debug |
| 01:08.49 | Erroneous | runs fine here |
| 01:09.22 | JeffM2501 | mets from the readme "**Running and Debugging** |
| 01:09.22 | JeffM2501 | By default the compiler will copy the compiled executables to the root level |
| 01:09.22 | JeffM2501 | of the source drive ( the same place that the data dir is at). From there |
| 01:09.22 | JeffM2501 | you can simply double click the application to run it. If you wish to debug |
| 01:09.22 | JeffM2501 | the program, you must set the debug executable path and working directory |
| 01:09.23 | JeffM2501 | inside VC to use this executable and path." |
| 01:09.30 | Mets | k that fixed the first thing, debugging works |
| 01:09.36 | JeffM2501 | where does it crash? |
| 01:10.03 | Mets | FT_Stream_Open: could not open `´x16;Ã' |
| 01:10.03 | Mets | First-chance exception at 0x00aaf83e in bzflag.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation reading location 0x00000000. |
| 01:10.03 | Mets | The thread 'Win32 Thread' (0x1380) has exited with code 3 (0x3). |
| 01:10.21 | blast007 | that's the error, not where |
| 01:10.25 | JeffM2501 | yeah where |
| 01:10.33 | JeffM2501 | what line of code does it stop on? |
| 01:10.34 | blast007 | look at the call stack in the main UI at the bottom |
| 01:10.44 | blast007 | or whatever VC calls it |
| 01:10.46 | Erroneous | did it break into the debugger, or just quit? |
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| 01:11.10 | JeffM2501 | I'll be back online soon |
| 01:11.11 | spldart | I can't spawn in any server and can't f12 quit |
| 01:11.13 | Mets | k looking |
| 01:11.15 | spldart | windows |
| 01:11.24 | Erroneous | if it did not break into the debugger, Debug->Exceptions->Win32 Exceptions, turn on "Access Violation" |
| 01:11.40 | Erroneous | if it did, then look at the call stack |
| 01:12.03 | spldart | meh.. my debug build reported no errors :( |
| 01:12.24 | Erroneous | yeah, mine either |
| 01:12.46 | blast007 | might be time for a clean build then |
| 01:13.00 | spldart | Fresh checkout for wind0ows now? |
| 01:13.11 | blast007 | nah, just a "Rebuild" |
| 01:13.30 | blast007 | I rarely check out clean |
| 01:14.18 | Mets | blast007: all it says after that is this : The program '[5244] bzflag.exe: Native' has exited with code 3 (0x3). |
| 01:14.26 | spldart | ctrl alt f7 then? |
| 01:14.33 | blast007 | Mets: then do waht Erroneous said |
| 01:14.52 | blast007 | did you get a screen that gave you buttons like "Break" and "Continue" ? |
| 01:15.13 | Mets | nope, it loaded the program, i could see the chat-server-etc tabs, then it crashed and reported that |
| 01:15.19 | blast007 | k |
| 01:15.24 | blast007 | 20:11:24 <+Erroneous> if it did not break into the debugger, Debug->Exceptions->Win32 Exceptions, turn on "Access Violation" |
| 01:15.29 | Mets | yea doing that |
| 01:15.32 | blast007 | k |
| 01:16.18 | Mets | k |
| 01:16.21 | Mets | ftsize.cpp |
| 01:16.32 | Erroneous | what's the call stack? |
| 01:16.34 | Mets | want me to break or continue? |
| 01:16.37 | Erroneous | break |
| 01:16.51 | Erroneous | then in the lower-right there should be a set of tabs, one of which should be call stack |
| 01:17.15 | Mets | >bzflag.exe!FTSize::CharSize(FT_FaceRec_ * * face=0x00000000, unsigned int pointSize=26, unsigned int xRes=72, unsigned int yRes=72) Line 49 + 0x1a bytesC++ |
| 01:17.25 | Mets | that's where it stopped |
| 01:17.42 | Erroneous | select all in that tab, copy, and paste to http://pastebin.bzflag.bz |
| 01:18.16 | Erroneous | the interesting part is probably five or six frames down at least |
| 01:18.26 | Mets | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m42318deb |
| 01:19.26 | spldart | @#*^%&*# the spamming of http://pastebin.bzflag.bz is really getting on my nerves |
| 01:19.55 | blast007 | spldart: ooo! a hot dog machine! |
| 01:20.00 | spldart | lol |
| 01:20.07 | blast007 | wait, dog hot |
| 01:20.08 | blast007 | nvm |
| 01:20.25 | Mets | lol |
| 01:20.59 | Mets | stopped on line 49 fwiw |
| 01:22.06 | Erroneous | mets: double-click on frame 10 (bzflag.exe!HUDRenderer::setMajorFontSize...) and use the "watch" window on the lower left of your screen. type in "majorFontFace" and copy the results here. |
| 01:23.16 | spldart | Nope.. rebuilt solution, ctrl alt f7, and still no worky. I join the server, get the token, download the files and can't join. And F12 is dead so I have to exit via menu. |
| 01:23.39 | *** join/#bzflag Constitution (n=const@unaffiliated/macsforme) |
| 01:23.47 | Mets | type in majorFontFace and put it in name or value? |
| 01:23.51 | Erroneous | name |
| 01:23.59 | Erroneous | should give you something like +majorFontFace0x0144b990 {fmFace=0x00000006 faceName="serifFont" localeSpecificBZDBVar="serifFont_Default" ...}LocalFontFace * |
| 01:24.13 | Mets | +majorFontFace0x014bba10 {fmFace=6 faceName="serifFont" localeSpecificBZDBVar="serifFont_" ...}LocalFontFace * |
| 01:24.15 | Mets | gave that |
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| 01:24.24 | Erroneous | hm, that's all OK |
| 01:24.36 | Erroneous | wondered if maybe fmFace was invalid |
| 01:26.40 | Mets | majorFontFaceCXX0017: Error: symbol "majorFontFace" not found |
| 01:26.42 | Erroneous | Mets: it all looks ok to me. Something in FTGL is not working for you. You are using VC8, right? |
| 01:26.51 | Mets | yeah |
| 01:27.17 | Erroneous | k. rebuild the 3D and ftgl_static projects at least, and try again. all the stuff we're giving FTGL is valid |
| 01:27.31 | Mets | k |
| 01:28.17 | Mets | rebuilt |
| 01:28.24 | Mets | both succeeded |
| 01:28.44 | Mets | run debugger? |
| 01:28.48 | Erroneous | sure |
| 01:29.00 | Erroneous | mm, make sure you relink bzflag first |
| 01:29.24 | Erroneous | right click the project, project only, link bzflag |
| 01:29.25 | Mets | it says it's out of date and wants to know if i should rebuild |
| 01:29.30 | Erroneous | ah, that works then |
| 01:29.35 | Erroneous | tell it yes, it shouldn't take long |
| 01:30.05 | Mets | k, same problem |
| 01:30.42 | Mets | majorFontFaceCXX0017: Error: symbol "majorFontFace" not found |
| 01:31.22 | Erroneous | yeah, that's not in scope any more...you can delete the watch if you want |
| 01:31.30 | Erroneous | it's something in ftgl |
| 01:31.56 | Mets | not really sure myself |
| 01:34.51 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r17312 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/LocalFontFace.cxx: refcounting is not real useful if you always create new instances... |
| 01:35.04 | Erroneous | that won't fix your problem |
| 01:35.17 | Erroneous | just something I saw when I looked at your stack trace |
| 01:35.24 | Erroneous | so thanks :) |
| 01:35.55 | Mets | np :) |
| 01:37.05 | Erroneous | Mets: random idea, try running in a window with a smaller size |
| 01:37.10 | brlcad | spldart: enough to set up recaptcha on it and/or upgrade it? :) |
| 01:37.41 | Mets | Erroneous: how do i do that in the debugger? |
| 01:38.11 | Erroneous | project properties, where you set the executable and working directory, there's a command line field. add "-window 1024x768" or something |
| 01:38.35 | Erroneous | command arguments sorry |
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| 01:40.51 | Mets | hmm doesn't like that, is it -windowed maybe? |
| 01:41.23 | Constitution | -window -geometry 1024x768 |
| 01:41.27 | Mets | yeah |
| 01:41.35 | Mets | geometry part |
| 01:42.46 | Erroneous | mmm, on trunk it should only need -window |
| 01:43.07 | Erroneous | has his set to "-window 640x480" and it works fine |
| 01:43.15 | Erroneous | don't include the quotes |
| 01:43.54 | Mets | C:\Games\bzflag\bzflag-source\trunk\bzflag\bzflag.exe -window 640x480 |
| 01:43.58 | Mets | no go |
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| 01:44.38 | Mets | -geometry didn't help either |
| 01:45.32 | Erroneous | you are adding it to command arguments, right? |
| 01:45.33 | JeffM | where is it crashing? |
| 01:45.38 | Ride- | but trigonometry did |
| 01:45.49 | Mets | yes |
| 01:45.54 | JeffM | trunk just takes -window XXXxYYY |
| 01:45.56 | Erroneous | so command arguments should be "-window 640x480" or similar, no exactuable name |
| 01:46.23 | Mets | my line for command looks exactly like i pasted above |
| 01:46.42 | Erroneous | there are two lines, one for command, one for command arguments |
| 01:46.46 | Erroneous | executable goes in command |
| 01:46.52 | Erroneous | -window and such goes in command arguments |
| 01:47.03 | JeffM | 3 lines in total are used for debuging |
| 01:47.10 | Mets | bah |
| 01:47.16 | Mets | sorry, didn't read :p |
| 01:47.19 | Mets | actually now it works |
| 01:47.21 | Erroneous | 'tis ok :) |
| 01:47.25 | Mets | at 640x480 |
| 01:47.25 | Erroneous | hm, interesting |
| 01:47.34 | Erroneous | must be something at that particular size |
| 01:47.47 | Erroneous | the sizing stuff did change some with the face changes I just made |
| 01:48.20 | Mets | my laptop is 1680x1050 |
| 01:48.26 | JeffM | didn't we say that the accetable minumu was not 800x600? |
| 01:48.39 | JeffM | mets where did it crash? |
| 01:48.45 | JeffM | or are you trying to get there? |
| 01:48.46 | Erroneous | JeffM: it crashes in FTGL |
| 01:48.51 | JeffM | that sucks |
| 01:48.54 | JeffM | works for you? |
| 01:48.54 | Erroneous | something Freetype gives it is no good |
| 01:49.03 | Erroneous | yeah, works fine at most resses |
| 01:49.16 | JeffM | dosn't like 1650? |
| 01:49.19 | Mets | 1024x768 works |
| 01:49.20 | Erroneous | I don't have a 1680x1050 screen to test on |
| 01:49.28 | JeffM | Erroneous, log into my machine |
| 01:49.32 | JeffM | it's that size |
| 01:49.34 | Erroneous | but the default fonts do have some bugs |
| 01:49.43 | JeffM | or well.. This laptop ;) |
| 01:49.48 | JeffM | but i'm not there anymore |
| 01:49.52 | Erroneous | there are a couple glyphs that fail at certain sizes anyway |
| 01:49.56 | Erroneous | yeah, I need to go home |
| 01:50.00 | JeffM | k |
| 01:50.02 | JeffM | I'll try here |
| 01:50.15 | Erroneous | technically have a TWL match in 10 minutes |
| 01:50.29 | JeffM | or I'll have my lappy there tomrow |
| 01:51.02 | Erroneous | Mets: the other thing you can try is using the Deja Vu fonts. set serifFont in your config file to the Deja Vu serif font and see if it helps |
| 01:51.10 | Erroneous | they're considerably less buggy |
| 01:51.17 | JeffM | or just rename them :) |
| 01:51.18 | Erroneous | but not spaced as nicely |
| 01:52.03 | Mets | 1400x1050 works |
| 01:52.11 | JeffM | cool |
| 01:52.21 | JeffM | we can work on fixing that bug then |
| 01:52.35 | Mets | k |
| 01:53.21 | JeffM | I have to get a clean tree tho, so it'lltake a bit |
| 01:53.27 | Mets | i'll be around |
| 01:53.35 | Mets | maybe a widescreen thing |
| 01:53.42 | JeffM | well it shoudl dupe on this laptop too |
| 01:53.58 | JeffM | or even in a window at that size on a larger display |
| 01:55.24 | spldart | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m25d0cd6f |
| 01:55.54 | JeffM | you don' |
| 01:55.57 | JeffM | t havecurses |
| 01:56.13 | JeffM | build debug |
| 01:56.15 | JeffM | not debut distro |
| 01:57.12 | spldart | Trying again.. I wish I knew why that kept resetting to debug distro |
| 01:57.51 | spldart | but bzflag still wont join.. get's token, downloads server related files and stops at 'right click or I to join' |
| 01:58.09 | spldart | is rebuilding with the appropriate debug setting |
| 01:58.47 | spldart | I know what happened.. I did a fresh checkout cuz of the bzflag.exe problems and didn't reset 'debug' when I started my 'solution' |
| 01:58.57 | Flash | so the recent updates... should I care that bzrobots doesn't link anymore? |
| 01:59.15 | JeffM | spldart, well sure you deleted your local prefs |
| 01:59.20 | JeffM | so it went back to the first config |
| 01:59.23 | JeffM | debug distro :) |
| 01:59.44 | spldart | Well. jumped to a new dir.. Not deleted yet.. trying to figure this prob out |
| 02:00.08 | JeffM | the project makes a temp file that has your selected target |
| 02:00.18 | JeffM | your new dir dosn't have that so it went with the default |
| 02:01.07 | Lukstr | ugh |
| 02:01.09 | Lukstr | hello, world |
| 02:01.14 | javawizard2539 | Ride-: ping |
| 02:01.22 | javawizard2539 | Oh wait |
| 02:01.29 | javawizard2539 | Hmm, when in doubt, look at the user list |
| 02:01.49 | spldart | Ok... Still have the F12 does not work and the stalls @ get token and download server files problem.. I can see the server but cannot start play in windows. |
| 02:02.16 | spldart | @ the moment linux does join just fine |
| 02:04.08 | Mets | JeffM: I noticed that my w,a,s,d keys don't work the same as the arrow keys |
| 02:04.26 | Mets | has anybody else mentioned something like that? |
| 02:04.37 | Lukstr | well, now I know not to trust old, banged around hard drives :P |
| 02:05.30 | Mets | what i mean is, sometimes I'll press one of the w,a,s,d and it won't do anything, or it will just stop the tank |
| 02:07.02 | javawizard2539 | Mets: w, a, s, and d have different functions besides moving the tank |
| 02:07.31 | javawizard2539 | w hides the console, a slows your tank when you use the arrow keys to drive, and s shows or hides the score table |
| 02:07.36 | blast007 | javawizard2539: assuming he used the GUI to change them, it would have replaced those options automatically |
| 02:07.53 | brlcad | bugQ[foods]: hm? que? (reading log) |
| 02:07.55 | javawizard2539 | hmm, good point |
| 02:08.09 | Mets | java, in trunk they're only defined for the tank movement |
| 02:08.20 | javawizard2539 | oh, ok |
| 02:08.24 | javawizard2539 | guess I'm a bit out of date |
| 02:08.26 | spldart | So others have bleeding edge trunk code working just fine on windows xp vc8 right now? |
| 02:08.55 | DTRemenak | spldart: yeah, works fine |
| 02:09.23 | spldart | well poop... I don't even know how to diagnose this. Build says fine but client isn't fully working :( |
| 02:09.37 | spldart | But it's not crashing either |
| 02:09.48 | Mets | spldart: assuming you aren't trying to run it at 1680x1050 resolution |
| 02:09.53 | spldart | lol |
| 02:09.57 | Flash | try deleting your config file? |
| 02:09.57 | Mets | :p |
| 02:09.58 | spldart | no... |
| 02:10.36 | spldart | There is a persistant config file in trunk? I thought the fact I keep having to reenter my password in the menu meant there was none. |
| 02:10.40 | spldart | lemme look |
| 02:10.44 | brlcad | Flash: configure does generate the *Makefile* files .. it's complaining that the *Makefile.in* files do not exist .. which usually indicates something is missing or shouldn't be listed in configure.ac before AC_OUTPUT |
| 02:11.11 | Mets | spldart: did you try to respawn with i or with right-click |
| 02:11.17 | spldart | sure enough |
| 02:11.18 | Flash | spldart: no, your client config I mean |
| 02:11.20 | spldart | both |
| 02:11.25 | JeffM | Mets, probably your keyboard |
| 02:11.25 | Mets | because I can't respawn with i, but I can with right click |
| 02:11.36 | spldart | I and right click |
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| 02:11.39 | Mets | JeffM: I use w,a,s,d in 2.0.10 to drive perfectly |
| 02:11.40 | JeffM | but there are know issues in keymap |
| 02:11.48 | Flash | brlcad: I don't know which comment you were addressing |
| 02:11.58 | JeffM | Mets, so? that dosn't mean there arn't bugs |
| 02:12.00 | JeffM | fixthem ;) |
| 02:12.05 | Mets | lol |
| 02:12.12 | JeffM | brlcad, you need to help bugQ[foods] get buildin ;) |
| 02:12.14 | Mets | well I was trying to see if it was me or everybody |
| 02:12.21 | JeffM | Mets, does it mater? |
| 02:12.31 | JeffM | it still needs to be fixed |
| 02:12.37 | DTRemenak | it's quite possible for some part of keybinding to have broken |
| 02:12.44 | DTRemenak | has been hacking at that too |
| 02:13.11 | Mets | JeffM: yes, if it's just me then it's something on my end, not in the code |
| 02:13.28 | JeffM | if 2.0.10 works, it has to be the code :) |
| 02:13.35 | JeffM | but it may be specifc to your system |
| 02:13.45 | Mets | alrighty |
| 02:13.49 | spldart | that did it! |
| 02:13.51 | JeffM | no mater if it's just you or you and others, it still needs to be fixed ;) |
| 02:13.58 | spldart | deleted 3.0 outta my bzflag files |
| 02:14.00 | Mets | :p k |
| 02:14.07 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03jwmelto * r17313 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzrobots/Makefile.am: add in the new LocalFontFace dependency |
| 02:14.32 | spldart | lemme try something |
| 02:14.34 | Mets | also, regarding the 1680x1050 issue, I started in windowed mode and then hit F1 to bring it to full screen, and it works |
| 02:14.37 | DTRemenak | yeah, the config file is not necessarily backwards compatible anymore. please look into it if not, we need to be able to upgrade 2.0 configs |
| 02:14.47 | Mets | however, if i start in full scrreen at 1680x1050, it crashes |
| 02:14.57 | JeffM | Mets, yes it's FTGL, we have to debug it |
| 02:15.02 | brlcad | Wyk3d: if you'd like to test with .bz's ldap, lemme know |
| 02:15.03 | Mets | k |
| 02:15.07 | Mets | just updating on tests |
| 02:15.22 | bryjen | MainMenu.cxx:149: warning: declaration of 'fontFace' shadows a previous local; MainMenu.cxx:33: warning: shadowed declaration is here |
| 02:15.45 | brlcad | same goes for any of the students that might need access to the server to help test/run stuff |
| 02:16.13 | spldart | yep.. now even f12 works.. I'm confuzzled |
| 02:16.20 | JeffM | brlcad, there is also opencombat if we want to keep load down o n .bz :) |
| 02:16.34 | JeffM | nearly similar setup to .bz |
| 02:16.38 | DTRemenak | and the server in germany too |
| 02:16.48 | DTRemenak | we've no shortage of infrastructure-capable machines |
| 02:17.01 | JeffM | .de is running debian tho |
| 02:17.14 | DTRemenak | some testing cross platform is always good ;) |
| 02:17.14 | JeffM | so yes while available, OC is closer to .bz in setup |
| 02:17.16 | JeffM | true |
| 02:17.19 | JeffM | just offering it |
| 02:17.27 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 02:17.37 | JeffM | it's not like we are chuging thru bandwith ;) |
| 02:17.43 | DTRemenak | very true |
| 02:17.56 | DTRemenak | actually right now is probably about our highest load if you want to check it |
| 02:18.31 | blast007 | it was around a 5.00 load at about 2:40 PM central time |
| 02:18.35 | JeffM | pages... slow... conan...poatching |
| 02:19.01 | DTRemenak | yeah, oc is currently 0.28 |
| 02:19.13 | DTRemenak | which is about as high as it gets unless someone's building on it |
| 02:19.32 | JeffM | you are peaking bandwith |
| 02:19.40 | JeffM | 250k |
| 02:19.44 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 02:19.45 | DTRemenak | not surprising |
| 02:20.20 | JeffM | wow, we did better this month |
| 02:20.27 | DTRemenak | we've got a 4v4 twl match against some folks from quebec at the moment, so heavy on TS and CoD both |
| 02:20.28 | JeffM | 43 gigs so far |
| 02:20.50 | JeffM | wtf... 36 gigs IN? |
| 02:21.02 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 02:21.05 | DTRemenak | that's a little wierd |
| 02:21.08 | JeffM | and only 6 out |
| 02:21.18 | DTRemenak | my stuff at least is much heavier outbound |
| 02:21.25 | DTRemenak | at least 5x or so |
| 02:21.41 | JeffM | we'll have to look into that |
| 02:21.47 | JeffM | cus that is VERY odd |
| 02:21.55 | DTRemenak | yeah, dunno where that comes from |
| 02:22.15 | DTRemenak | "svn up" is the only thing I do that's heavier in than out |
| 02:22.31 | JeffM | last week we did 3 out 1.5 in |
| 02:22.44 | DTRemenak | yeah, that's more what I'd expect |
| 02:22.48 | DTRemenak | we did 36 in? |
| 02:22.53 | JeffM | over may |
| 02:22.59 | JeffM | bracketing in on when |
| 02:23.47 | DTRemenak | we only have like 7gb disk space used :) |
| 02:24.04 | DTRemenak | and easily half of that is me |
| 02:24.13 | bryjen | uploads to /dev/null ;) |
| 02:24.15 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 02:24.29 | JeffM | we did 31 gigs in on the second |
| 02:24.43 | JeffM | well sometime between the first and second |
| 02:25.07 | bryjen | or the same 1g file 31 times |
| 02:25.22 | JeffM | we averaged 1.4 megs a second for the day |
| 02:25.36 | DTRemenak | wow |
| 02:25.40 | DTRemenak | SSH attack maybe? |
| 02:25.45 | JeffM | maybe |
| 02:26.28 | JeffM | wonder what kinda logs we have |
| 02:26.33 | JeffM | we can check tomorow |
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| 02:26.53 | DTRemenak | yeah, I had nothing odd going on then. I'll poke the logs. |
| 02:27.45 | Flash | bryjen: it is probably benign. The shadow declaration is initialized to the variable it hides |
| 02:27.48 | JeffM | it can wait, play your game :) |
| 02:28.12 | JeffM | Flash, still prevents a debug build from w orking so it should be fixed |
| 02:28.21 | L4m3r | oh fun, a phishing attack? |
| 02:28.36 | blast007 | L4m3r: yeah, apparently |
| 02:28.52 | L4m3r | do we have a copy of the email (preferrably with headers)? |
| 02:28.58 | L4m3r | I have not gotten anything afaik |
| 02:29.00 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r17314 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/MainMenu.cxx: no need to declare a variable that we already have hangin' around |
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| 02:30.56 | JeffM | L4m3r, blast007 we don't have any real sites |
| 02:31.06 | JeffM | cept maybe 2 media wikis |
| 02:31.11 | JeffM | should check them for spam |
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| 02:31.31 | DTRemenak | he was referring to the fellow who is forging @bzflag.org email headers, I think |
| 02:31.36 | JeffM | ahh |
| 02:31.43 | blast007 | yeah |
| 02:32.12 | Ride288 | javawizard2539: go to #PortEighty.org |
| 02:32.24 | Ride288 | im sick of doing /ghost |
| 02:36.05 | brlcad | Flash: comment from earlier in the day |
| 02:36.18 | brlcad | JeffM: yeah, I noticed, read the whole log deal |
| 02:36.30 | brlcad | (day of meetings and greetings) |
| 02:36.52 | bugQ | okay, brlcad |
| 02:37.10 | JeffM | brlcad, bugQ , bugQ brlcad .. fight! |
| 02:37.20 | brlcad | .de is running gentoo iirc, not debian |
| 02:37.22 | spldart | heh |
| 02:37.26 | JeffM | ahh |
| 02:37.27 | brlcad | but yeah, also available |
| 02:37.32 | JeffM | but still linux not bsd |
| 02:37.37 | bugQ | readies a hadouken. |
| 02:37.49 | bugQ | hyah! http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m7206a79 |
| 02:38.31 | spldart | Did you go super saiyan before that attack? |
| 02:39.00 | bugQ | and fail to test his strength? fhe |
| 02:39.03 | bugQ | er, feh. |
| 02:39.41 | brlcad | odd |
| 02:40.06 | brlcad | Unwind_Resume is a gcc-ism when linking C++ code |
| 02:40.21 | brlcad | ah! because you are using gcc |
| 02:40.28 | brlcad | wth are you doing that for? :) |
| 02:40.30 | L4m3r | :P |
| 02:40.45 | bugQ | that is part of the make log |
| 02:41.14 | bugQ | I didn't tell it to use gcc, configure did |
| 02:41.18 | brlcad | that's what all the errors are, at least most of them |
| 02:41.27 | brlcad | you implicitly told it gcc through something |
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| 02:41.32 | brlcad | it's inferred by filenames |
| 02:41.54 | brlcad | you can make gcc work, but you have to add extra flags like -lstdc++ and -fexceptions |
| 02:42.10 | brlcad | the real fix, though, is to use g++ since you're obviously linking c++ code |
| 02:42.15 | Lukstr | yay for pastebin spam |
| 02:42.22 | brlcad | you must have main() in a .c file? |
| 02:42.34 | brlcad | what is c-demo? |
| 02:43.34 | brlcad | more comprehensive context could help .. where is that in the build? that something you've done? |
| 02:44.06 | bugQ | no, just trying to build from /trunk/bzflag |
| 02:44.20 | bugQ | it's somewhere in ftgl... |
| 02:45.05 | brlcad | mmm, okay |
| 02:45.29 | bugQ | I might be able to find it thanks to that clue, though. |
| 02:48.35 | Winny | anyone seen this? |
| 02:48.35 | Winny | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=12625 |
| 02:50.38 | Flash | bugQ: are you on Mac OS? |
| 02:50.46 | bugQ | yes. |
| 02:50.53 | Flash | 10.5? |
| 02:50.57 | bugQ | 10.4.11 |
| 02:51.51 | Flash | with 10.5 you MUST configure with --enable-freetype-build; give it a try and see if it resolves this issue for you |
| 02:53.05 | bugQ | well, it's using the wrong compiler for something that seems like it would otherwise work...I think it's a makefile problem |
| 02:54.59 | bugQ | yeah, that didn't do it |
| 02:59.09 | spldart | Oh where o where is King of Camelot. Oh where oh where could he be? /singsong |
| 03:05.32 | Flash | bugQ: here's what my compile looks like: http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m4779358 |
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| 03:08.15 | Ride288 | hey JeffM do you think that you could help me |
| 03:11.44 | bugQ | huh. |
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| 03:14.24 | bugQ | now I have no idea what's happening. sweet! |
| 03:15.42 | JeffM | isn't that normal for mac users? ;) |
| 03:19.16 | bugQ | what fraction of the userbase is still on 10.4 like me? |
| 03:19.36 | blast007 | I'm on 10.4 |
| 03:19.36 | Winny | I use leopard |
| 03:19.43 | blast007 | not that it matters, since I don't use it anyway |
| 03:20.06 | brlcad | it's not easty to query the "userbase" for that fraction, but suffice it to say that it's "a lot" of folks |
| 03:20.26 | brlcad | we've always supported the current and previous at a minimum |
| 03:20.38 | brlcad | sometimes 2 or 3 previous (but not any more) |
| 03:25.48 | Flash | it has felt like I'm the lone 10.5 user ;-) |
| 03:26.01 | bugQ | 21:19 Winny: I use leopard |
| 03:27.26 | Winny | :) |
| 03:27.34 | bugQ | is there something different between your libftgl.2.1.3.dylib and my libftgl.a? |
| 03:28.01 | Flash | did you install ftgl or are you building from bzflag? |
| 03:30.16 | bugQ | it doesn't seem to be using my installation |
| 03:30.47 | Flash | installation of what? |
| 03:30.51 | bugQ | flgt |
| 03:30.53 | bugQ | ftgl. |
| 03:31.08 | bugQ | or fltgftgl, at your preference |
| 03:31.31 | Flash | so you do have a local ftgl installation |
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| 03:32.08 | brlcad | the automatic build system checks and subconfigure fallbacks really haven't been extensively tested, i'm sure they need work (configure.ac and m4 work) |
| 03:32.11 | brlcad | howdy KingofCamelot |
| 03:32.23 | KingofCamelot | Hey |
| 03:33.29 | Lukstr | howdy |
| 03:33.43 | Flash | BulletCatcher: ping |
| 03:33.46 | KingofCamelot | I noticed I got a friendly reminder that today is the first day of GSoC :P |
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| 03:35.54 | bugQ | did any other students show up today? |
| 03:36.15 | Flash | Tyrone? is there a story there? |
| 03:39.21 | Lukstr | waves |
| 03:39.45 | bugQ | ah, hi |
| 03:39.49 | Lukstr | had a rocky start though :P |
| 03:40.09 | bugQ | I'm still in the middle of it :\ |
| 03:40.40 | Flash | is there a --disable-ftgl-build option? |
| 03:40.56 | KingofCamelot | bugQ, in the middle of what? |
| 03:41.27 | bugQ | KoC: the rocky start, that is |
| 03:41.30 | brlcad | Flash: sure, it should force it off |
| 03:41.41 | Lukstr | I witnessed for my first time a head crash this weekend! |
| 03:42.24 | KingofCamelot | Lukstr, as in car crash? |
| 03:42.39 | Lukstr | As in my hard drive bit the bullet |
| 03:42.48 | KingofCamelot | Ah, hehe |
| 03:42.49 | brlcad | heh, http://www.netsoc.tcd.ie/~mu/cgi-bin/shortpath.cgi?from=BZFlag&to=Kevin+Bacon |
| 03:43.01 | Lukstr | (at least it was a crappy hard drive on a crappy system, but my only *nix box I have up :( ) |
| 03:43.08 | KingofCamelot | Hopefully you didn't lose anything important? |
| 03:43.12 | bugQ | bacon...mm. |
| 03:43.26 | Lukstr | brlcad: kind of cheats, with the dates eh? |
| 03:43.31 | brlcad | yeah |
| 03:45.17 | Lukstr | you'd be surprised how not-easy it is to find cheap non-SATA HDDs |
| 03:45.30 | Lukstr | (aka ATA :P) |
| 03:45.44 | brlcad | get an external |
| 03:45.44 | KingofCamelot | Ya, cause they're a thing of the past :P |
| 03:46.03 | Lukstr | brlcad: A) no money as of yet, B) it's for a crappy system |
| 03:46.15 | Lukstr | my cardboard-box bzflag workstation |
| 03:46.17 | brlcad | still relatively cheap and will still be useful if/when you upgrade |
| 03:46.44 | bugQ | oh, just for bzflag? run it off a usb key! |
| 03:48.45 | Lukstr | brlcad: eh, I have plenty of SATA systems |
| 03:49.25 | Lukstr | bugQ: ouch, limited reads and writes of those things, combined with the compiling and my saving compulsiveness |
| 03:49.44 | Lukstr | regardless, I dug an old Deskstar out and am installing the 'buntu on it now |
| 03:49.53 | Lukstr | hopefully get *a* commit in this evening |
| 03:51.40 | bugQ | oh, workstation, not server |
| 03:51.50 | Lukstr | yeah |
| 03:51.57 | Lukstr | kvm switch and everything :P |
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| 04:05.40 | javawizard2539 | Ride-: ping |
| 04:05.49 | javawizard2539 | hmm |
| 04:06.00 | javawizard2539 | Someone slap me the next time I ping someone who's not even logged in |
| 04:06.14 | Lukstr | Yessir |
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| 04:24.44 | bugQ | blarg, sleep needed. |
| 04:39.16 | Mets | lol |
| 04:39.18 | Mets | ~bzlist |
| 04:40.09 | Mets | 75.25.4.24:5154(6 |
| 04:40.34 | Mets | at least he's creative |
| 04:44.02 | CIA-33 | FTGL: 03brlcad * r1164 10/trunk/mac/: bye bye, baby, bye bye. no more mac dir. the xcode project was entirely out of sync to be of any use and the includes are pointless (do proper subconfigure management instead) |
| 04:50.20 | Lukstr | yay |
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| 04:59.01 | javawizard2539 | ~bzlist |
| 04:59.30 | javawizard2539 | wow, mofo went down by quite a bit |
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| 05:11.45 | KingofCamelot | It got kinda quiet in here |
| 05:12.06 | Lukstr | tosses some tumbleweeds into the room |
| 05:16.10 | JeffM | I farted |
| 05:17.30 | Lukstr | delightful |
| 05:18.52 | KingofCamelot | So I'm creating a HUDuiScrollList class to handle scrollable lists, in particular the server listing list, but I've run into a slight dilema. |
| 05:19.16 | JeffM | what branch are you working in? |
| 05:21.12 | KingofCamelot | Right now I'm just playing around with the HUD files in trunk. I just started the HUDuiScrollList class today, so it's just experimenting right now. |
| 05:21.41 | JeffM | you should put it into a branch and work in that |
| 05:21.45 | JeffM | then you can check it in |
| 05:21.54 | JeffM | but what dilema did you run into? |
| 05:22.07 | KingofCamelot | Ok, create a new branch for all my server listing stuff? |
| 05:22.14 | JeffM | yep |
| 05:22.25 | KingofCamelot | Rgr, I'll do that tomorrow then. |
| 05:22.55 | KingofCamelot | Well, even though I'm specifically going to use HUDuiScrollList for the server listing, I want to keep it generic so it can be used for other stuff in the future. |
| 05:23.38 | KingofCamelot | I was looking at how HUDuiList is set up, and it has an internal vector which items for the list are pushed into. |
| 05:24.10 | KingofCamelot | Now, for me all the items I want to display with HUDuiScrollList are already in ServerList objects. |
| 05:24.49 | JeffM | well the info for them is, but not the actual displayed order based on the current sort/filter |
| 05:25.01 | KingofCamelot | So for the ServerMenu I could have multiple HUDuiScrollLists which I use a pointer to switch between, each one showing a different ServerList. |
| 05:25.10 | JeffM | just rebuild it |
| 05:25.16 | JeffM | when the filter changes. |
| 05:25.34 | KingofCamelot | Or I could have one HUDuiScrollList and implement a method which changes where the HUDuiScrollList gets it's data from. |
| 05:25.43 | JeffM | or just rebuild the list |
| 05:25.56 | KingofCamelot | Yea, or that. |
| 05:26.03 | KingofCamelot | But that seemed kinda inefficient to me |
| 05:26.05 | JeffM | it's a rare time event |
| 05:26.15 | JeffM | think of it as caching ;) |
| 05:26.59 | KingofCamelot | So you're suggesting one HUDuiScrollList for the ServerMenu which I clear and push items onto whenever the user switches the list view? |
| 05:27.06 | JeffM | yeah |
| 05:27.20 | JeffM | for most users, that list is going to change once or twice a view |
| 05:27.20 | KingofCamelot | Mmm k, that should keep it fairly generic. :) |
| 05:27.27 | JeffM | yes it would |
| 05:27.46 | JeffM | if there is a slight delay as it builds the list when they swap, that's fine |
| 05:27.52 | JeffM | since it's based on user action |
| 05:27.58 | JeffM | it's not like you are rebuilding the list every frame |
| 05:28.07 | KingofCamelot | Ya |
| 05:28.11 | KingofCamelot | Ok, thanks. :) |
| 05:28.13 | JeffM | sure |
| 05:29.02 | JeffM | also doing it that way means you can merge in data from more then one source too |
| 05:29.06 | JeffM | like say lan servers |
| 05:29.15 | JeffM | or something else, like a loby system |
| 05:29.15 | brlcad | starts ripping out how the version is managed |
| 05:29.30 | JeffM | brlcad: is that fixing a bug? ;) |
| 05:29.41 | brlcad | yeah, build system bug :) |
| 05:29.52 | JeffM | sure it is |
| 05:30.18 | DTRemenak | he won't be the first person to fix a bug by redesigning the problem ;) |
| 05:30.19 | JeffM | then I should move shot branch back to fix the shot limit bug |
| 05:30.38 | JeffM | DTRemenak: but he was the last person to sugest that we not do that due to impending release ;) |
| 05:30.41 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 05:30.43 | DTRemenak | true |
| 05:30.49 | JeffM | so I get my zing |
| 05:30.51 | brlcad | hasn't committed anything, has he |
| 05:30.56 | JeffM | that is all :) |
| 05:31.02 | JeffM | zing away, carry on |
| 05:31.06 | brlcad | nothing says I can't work on [insert_topic] |
| 05:31.25 | JeffM | unless that topic is logging |
| 05:31.30 | brlcad | exactly |
| 05:31.33 | JeffM | then it's blocked by a cosmic force |
| 05:31.36 | JeffM | for great justice |
| 05:31.43 | brlcad | but then that wouldn't be fixing a bug |
| 05:31.52 | brlcad | so I'm technically prohibited from working on it right now |
| 05:32.02 | JeffM | yay for a clear 200 gig drive in prep for the vistatastic |
| 05:32.13 | DTRemenak | has "fixed" a few localization bugs recently ;) |
| 05:32.23 | DTRemenak | so it's a mighty thin freeze |
| 05:32.33 | JeffM | can I fix shots? |
| 05:32.46 | DTRemenak | sure, if it's pretty stable, check it back in |
| 05:32.53 | DTRemenak | imho, of course |
| 05:33.00 | DTRemenak | was in favor of that to begin with |
| 05:33.00 | JeffM | you know how much testing it has had :) |
| 05:33.09 | brlcad | if it's pretty stable being the key |
| 05:33.14 | JeffM | and it needs endshots to work |
| 05:33.23 | JeffM | and it dosn't have em all so, it realy is better in a branch |
| 05:33.31 | JeffM | just likes to make trouble |
| 05:33.43 | brlcad | noticed the hour long apple rant |
| 05:33.50 | blast007 | heh |
| 05:33.52 | JeffM | 12 min |
| 05:33.55 | JeffM | MAX |
| 05:34.50 | JeffM | I wonder if I'll get my tracking number from newegg after I get the items |
| 05:36.15 | JeffM | tho for shots it may be able to go in after Constitution does the first part of his work |
| 05:36.21 | JeffM | but not the second |
| 05:41.55 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r17315 10/trunk/bzflag/src/other/ftgl/ (configure.ac src/Makefile.am): bz-specific hackage -- if we're building freetype2, set FT2_CPPFLAGS so we can find the headers. leave the FT2_CFLAGS alone. |
| 05:43.09 | Lukstr | so, I've been thumbing through trunk whilst fixing my boxen, and I wondering which route I should take |
| 05:43.25 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r17316 10/trunk/bzflag/src/other/ftgl/m4/freetype2.m4: update the ancient freetype2.m4 file to the more recent copy we're using in bz where the failure to find freetype-config abort is commented out |
| 05:43.30 | JeffM | as I see it you only have one real option |
| 05:43.33 | Lukstr | either branch until the lib replicates functionality 100%, or use defines |
| 05:43.42 | JeffM | naw |
| 05:43.46 | JeffM | make a new lib |
| 05:43.52 | Lukstr | right |
| 05:43.53 | JeffM | copy the code to it |
| 05:43.59 | JeffM | but don't have bzfs or bzflag use it |
| 05:44.02 | Lukstr | right |
| 05:44.03 | JeffM | make a test harnes |
| 05:44.09 | JeffM | then you don't need defines |
| 05:44.19 | JeffM | just make the test harnes optional |
| 05:44.23 | Lukstr | you mean like a test suite? |
| 05:44.26 | JeffM | yeah |
| 05:44.27 | Lukstr | a driver? |
| 05:44.32 | JeffM | driver? |
| 05:44.41 | Lukstr | eh, something that "drives" a library |
| 05:44.42 | JeffM | an app that uses the lib and loads a file |
| 05:44.49 | JeffM | test app |
| 05:44.50 | Lukstr | it's a weird term to use |
| 05:44.51 | Lukstr | yeah |
| 05:44.56 | JeffM | a driver runs hardware ;) |
| 05:45.07 | Lukstr | that's what I said the first time I heard the term |
| 05:45.13 | JeffM | then when you are sure it's cool, you rip out the old stuff |
| 05:45.23 | Lukstr | right |
| 05:45.25 | JeffM | now you can do all that in a branch or sub project if you want |
| 05:45.30 | Lukstr | I guess I can worry about potential branches down the line |
| 05:45.31 | JeffM | it may be better |
| 05:45.40 | JeffM | so that you don't jack up 3.0 |
| 05:45.43 | Lukstr | yeah |
| 05:45.47 | Lukstr | :) |
| 05:46.15 | JeffM | but yeah you can do it in it's own codebase, copying code from the existing places |
| 05:46.43 | JeffM | I'd get with DTRemenak to see where he wants to do it tho |
| 05:46.57 | Lukstr | alright, I was just going to ask that |
| 05:47.12 | Lukstr | kaping, DTRemenak |
| 05:48.12 | JeffM | sends bzflagteam@gmail.com a most special chat invitation :) |
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| 05:59.40 | BulletCatcher | Flash: pong |
| 06:04.47 | Mets | lol |
| 06:04.57 | Mets | I have a feeling I know who is doing that |
| 06:05.15 | Mets | but it's just a hunch |
| 06:05.39 | CIA-33 | FTGL: 03brlcad * r1165 10/trunk/m4/freetype2.m4: merge freetype.m4 update from downstream bzflag, which is in turn from latest freetype2 sources albeit modified to not abort on failure to find the freetype-config script. |
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| 06:06.32 | Lukstr | with all this Wii homebrew stuff surfacing, BZFlag Wii is starting to have a nice ring :P |
| 06:07.29 | CIA-33 | FTGL: 03brlcad * r1166 10/trunk/BUGS: running configure on mac os x results in bad sed during search for a truetype font. haven't had time to investigate, but at least document it as a build system bug |
| 06:07.55 | blast007 | Lukstr: do they have an SDK? |
| 06:07.57 | BulletCatcher | That sed problem seems to be harmless. |
| 06:08.10 | blast007 | or is it some hack to run 3rd party software? |
| 06:08.22 | Lukstr | blast007: pretty much |
| 06:08.52 | Lukstr | in order to install homebrew, you need to either inject code or hardware mod |
| 06:09.09 | blast007 | heh.. |
| 06:09.18 | Lukstr | they did it a classy way though, making Epona's name a bit tooo big seems to work :P |
| 06:09.22 | blast007 | BZFlag Wii is sounding less and less interesting ;) |
| 06:09.27 | Lukstr | heh |
| 06:11.26 | blast007 | "Install instructions: Step 1) Install modchip. Step 2) ??? Step 3) Profit!" |
| 06:11.54 | Lukstr | I gave it a run (soft mod) today and it was fairly entertaining and easy |
| 06:12.03 | Flash | BulletCatcher: bugq was having a build problem. brlcad's last commit may address. Look at http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m7206a79 |
| 06:12.17 | Lukstr | but like most soft mods, crashing something is a step in the install :) |
| 06:12.20 | BulletCatcher | k |
| 06:13.32 | brlcad | i've not gotten to bugq's issue yet |
| 06:15.13 | BulletCatcher | It looks nasty. Do we know the heritage of what he has installed in /opt/local ? |
| 06:16.35 | brlcad | that's not a nasty failure if it's the pastebin you're referring to |
| 06:17.13 | brlcad | it's trying to use gcc to link c++ object code |
| 06:17.36 | Flash | it works for me, though |
| 06:17.39 | brlcad | that won't work, either needs to be g++ for gcc with a few other flags |
| 06:17.54 | brlcad | s/for/or/ |
| 06:17.55 | Flash | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m4779358 |
| 06:19.19 | brlcad | that could be the difference, versions of gcc |
| 06:20.12 | brlcad | where maybe newer/older version will auto-include the C++ logic needed |
| 06:20.20 | brlcad | yet the opposite won't |
| 06:20.26 | brlcad | you should compare versions with him |
| 06:20.31 | Lukstr | seems very probably |
| 06:20.33 | Lukstr | *ble |
| 06:21.07 | Flash | for the record, I'm i686-apple-darwin9-gcc-4.0.1 (GCC) 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5465) |
| 06:24.36 | BulletCatcher | I have i686-apple-darwin8-gcc-4.0.1 (GCC) 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5370) on my 10.4.11 system. |
| 06:24.45 | Lukstr | from bugQ's pastebin: /usr/libexec/gcc/i686-apple-darwin8/4.0.1/ld: Undefined symbols: |
| 06:24.59 | Lukstr | so looks like he's running same as BulletCatcher |
| 06:25.54 | brlcad | BulletCatcher: does yours fail? |
| 06:25.58 | BulletCatcher | If I knew what bugq was trying to do I could try it myself. |
| 06:26.07 | brlcad | he just ran make |
| 06:26.13 | brlcad | it failed inside src/other/ftgl |
| 06:26.20 | brlcad | demo to be specific |
| 06:26.20 | Flash | he has ftgl installed locally |
| 06:26.36 | Flash | I'm pretty sure |
| 06:26.40 | brlcad | well it's compiling it in his error message |
| 06:26.50 | brlcad | c-demo is src/other/ftgl/demo/c-demo.c |
| 06:27.21 | Flash | he also mentioned that he has a .a and my build creates a .dylib |
| 06:27.32 | BulletCatcher | It worked for me yesterday when I built r17304. |
| 06:27.49 | Lukstr | Flash: that sounds bizarre |
| 06:28.05 | Flash | why so? |
| 06:28.19 | Flash | if he has a distribution with a static lib, that would make sense to me |
| 06:29.45 | Lukstr | Flash: which lib? |
| 06:29.47 | Lukstr | ftgl? |
| 06:29.51 | Flash | yes |
| 06:30.47 | Flash | 21:27 < bugQ> is there something different between your libftgl.2.1.3.dylib and my libftgl.a? |
| 06:31.08 | BulletCatcher | starts a r17316 build on the Mac |
| 06:36.34 | Lukstr | heh, where you have .dylib, he has .a |
| 06:36.41 | Lukstr | where you have .a, he has .dylib |
| 06:38.07 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r17317 10/trunk/bzflag/src/other/ftgl/configure.ac: clean up the bzflag-specific subconfigure hack, not to bemerged upstream. |
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| 06:38.58 | Darklustxx | O.o |
| 06:39.18 | blast007 | hello |
| 06:39.24 | Darklustxx | hullo |
| 06:43.01 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r17318 10/trunk/bzflag/src/other/ftgl/ (demo/Makefile.am src/Makefile.am test/Makefile.am): per-target CPPFLAGS was not introduced until automake 1.7 so since 1.6 is our minimum version, use AM_CPPFLAGS instead and make sure it points to the needed FT2_CPPFLAGS -- this should go upstream. |
| 06:46.45 | brlcad | builds clean here now |
| 06:49.08 | Flash | still has the sed error for me (is that what you meant?) |
| 06:49.22 | Flash | I don't think the 't' command is working in sed |
| 06:52.54 | Darklustxx | it takes an awful long time to run make for bzflag :( |
| 06:53.16 | Flash | one issue is that fc-match -sv serif has file: "/usr/X11/lib/..." but the pattern appears to be looking for <file: "/usr/X11/..."> |
| 06:54.24 | BulletCatcher | The FTGL demo compiles cleanly for me using the system-supplied freetype library. |
| 06:54.26 | BulletCatcher | I'll try again using the one we distribute. |
| 06:54.47 | Flash | but I'm pretty sure it's the 't' command in sed not working |
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| 07:18.36 | BulletCatcher | r17316 fails miserably on 10.4.11 when I configure with --enable-freetype-build. src/other/ftgl/demo/simple.cpp can't find ft2build.h. Perhaps r17318 will fix that? |
| 07:19.40 | Darklustxx | is it normal for bzflag to be making for 30+ mins? |
| 07:20.11 | BulletCatcher | It takes 16 minutes on my 1.8 GHz system. |
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| 08:22.00 | javawizard2539 | Is it possible that in a valid map there will be a group define within another group define? |
| 08:33.02 | javawizard2539 | well don't everyone speak up at once |
| 08:39.13 | BulletCatcher | Probably not. |
| 08:40.27 | BulletCatcher | You can use groups in a define, but it wouldn't make much sense to nest the defines themselves. |
| 08:51.09 | javawizard2539 | Ok, thanks |
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| 15:46.07 | CIA-33 | FTGL: 03brlcad * r1167 10/trunk/ (demo/Makefile.am test/Makefile.am): target-specific CPPFLAGS was not added to automake until 1.7 so use AM_CPPFLAGS instead |
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| 17:29.51 | catay | Erroneous: I assume it's ok if i remove the unused fm instances from HUDRenderer.cxx ? |
| 17:30.40 | catay | Erroneous: it doesn't build with --enable-debug atm |
| 17:31.10 | Erroneous | catay: unused? |
| 17:31.51 | catay | well they get initialised in some methods but not used in it as far i can see |
| 17:32.26 | catay | for example in setLabelsFontSize(..) |
| 17:32.54 | Erroneous | and it didn't complain about that when they were just ints? |
| 17:34.10 | catay | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:34.12 | catay | these ones |
| 17:34.21 | Erroneous | ahh |
| 17:34.39 | Erroneous | yeah, if we have stray FontManagers floating around you can get rid of them |
| 17:34.51 | Erroneous | thought you were talking about one of the LocalFontFace* members |
| 17:35.12 | catay | yeah, i figured i wasn't expressing myself too well :) |
| 17:35.25 | catay | ok, i'll remove them |
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| 17:37.40 | Erroneous | heh, there's another bug floating around there too... |
| 17:38.34 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r17319 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/HUDRenderer.cxx: BZDB.eval("consoleFont") for a font size is no good. Try BZDB.eval("consoleFontSize")... |
| 17:41.32 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03catay * r17320 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ (HUDRenderer.cxx ScoreboardRenderer.cxx): Remove stray FontManagers. |
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| 17:44.14 | jnd | is there some log when bzflag crashes? |
| 17:49.20 | blast007 | not usually |
| 17:49.47 | blast007 | if you have a debug build on linux, for instance, and you have the ulimit set to allow coredumps, it will create a coredump which you can feed into a debugger |
| 17:49.58 | blast007 | assuming it was a segfault |
| 17:50.46 | blast007 | but there's not a 'log' persay |
| 17:51.09 | blast007 | jnd: can you duplicate the crash? |
| 17:56.13 | jnd | I don't think so, it crashes in midgame, twice in past few days in different games and situations |
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| 18:01.02 | CIA-33 | FTGL: 03brlcad * r1168 10/trunk/configure.ac: remove unused/unnecessary check for memset |
| 18:01.20 | javawizard2539 | Are materials and groups required to be defined before they are used? |
| 18:01.50 | Erroneous | groups yes, materials no iirc |
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| 18:02.03 | javawizard2539 | hmm |
| 18:02.08 | javawizard2539 | oh well |
| 18:02.10 | javawizard2539 | thanks |
| 18:08.28 | _Lukstr | Erroneous: ping |
| 18:28.09 | javawizard2539 | Are box sizes specified in terms of X Y Z, or X Z Y? |
| 18:34.54 | blast007 | javawizard2539: X Y Z, but our Z is up |
| 18:35.38 | javawizard2539 | blast007: does that go for positions as well as sizes? |
| 18:35.53 | blast007 | yes |
| 18:35.56 | javawizard2539 | ok |
| 18:35.58 | javawizard2539 | thanks |
| 18:36.12 | blast007 | are you making an editor? |
| 18:36.56 | javawizard2539 | somewhat |
| 18:37.04 | javawizard2539 | It's not an editor, but it needs to parse map files |
| 18:38.19 | javawizard2539 | and then render them |
| 18:41.47 | blast007 | ah |
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| 18:47.50 | Erroneous | Lukstr: pong |
| 18:47.56 | Lukstr | ah, timing |
| 18:48.19 | Lukstr | where should a new lib (namely libbzw) go? |
| 18:48.41 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r17321 10/trunk/bzflag/data/l10n/bzflag_lt.po: lithuanian uses multibyte characters that our default fonts don't render, set locale default to Deja Vu as per Russian. |
| 18:48.45 | Erroneous | src/ |
| 18:48.51 | Erroneous | create a new directory in src |
| 18:48.57 | Erroneous | so src/bzw |
| 18:49.02 | Erroneous | or use src/world |
| 18:49.13 | Erroneous | since there's nothing really there :) |
| 18:49.50 | Erroneous | src/bzw is best if you want to call it libbzw |
| 18:50.08 | Erroneous | and it's fine for you to work in the mainline, I think |
| 18:50.22 | Lukstr | alright |
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| 18:51.43 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r17322 10/trunk/bzflag/data/l10n/bzflag_lt.po: actually, remove the fixme too, utf8 is fine |
| 18:52.10 | Erroneous | considers emailing all the listed translators and asking them to test the latest l10n changes |
| 18:54.00 | javawizard2539 | Is north +x or +y? |
| 18:54.07 | Erroneous | +y |
| 18:54.19 | javawizard2539 | ok |
| 18:55.30 | javawizard2539 | and is east + or - x? |
| 18:55.41 | Erroneous | +x |
| 18:55.44 | javawizard2539 | ok |
| 18:56.18 | Erroneous | envision a standard cartesian 3d space, z is up, laid on a map with y+ facing north |
| 18:57.36 | javawizard2539 | ok |
| 18:57.45 | javawizard2539 | I'm so used to +y is up that it's thowing me off |
| 18:57.51 | javawizard2539 | *throw |
| 18:59.21 | Erroneous | we've considered making tshirts that say "z is up" :) |
| 19:04.59 | bryjen | zee missiles go up... |
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| 19:21.51 | brlcad | Erroneous: sounds like a great idea :) |
| 19:22.09 | brlcad | and to make sure their po files are up-to-date/complete |
| 19:22.23 | Erroneous | brlcad: which one, emailing the translators or making tshirts that say "z is up"? |
| 19:22.25 | Erroneous | ah, ok :) |
| 19:23.20 | Erroneous | I'd like to get a binary build first, in case some of them are non-developers running windows |
| 19:23.55 | Erroneous | and I think we only have one really serious bug preventing us from doing an alpha build |
| 19:24.14 | Erroneous | ...so who wants to fix the lag-escalation bug? :) |
| 19:25.27 | brlcad | *crickets* |
| 19:26.07 | spldart | ;-) |
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| 19:52.39 | javawizard2539 | how many wu wide is each repetition of the ground image? |
| 19:58.03 | Erroneous | depends |
| 19:59.47 | brlcad | woot, X11 forwarding to .bz fixed |
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| 20:08.36 | javawizard2539 | Erroneous: on what? |
| 20:08.41 | javawizard2539 | What is the default? |
| 20:09.04 | brlcad | use the source, luke |
| 20:09.16 | Erroneous | depends on your quality level, texture size, map size, etc |
| 20:09.23 | Erroneous | it's a dynamic number and you should not count on it |
| 20:09.27 | whodaman- | lol brlcad |
| 20:12.25 | spldart | If you count on slits. You count on good pier. /obscure silly pun quote |
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| 20:19.39 | blast007 | Erroneous: I'd love to fix that lag bug, but I just don't know how ;) |
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| 21:24.06 | Lukstr | I would buy a "z is up" shirt immediately. |
| 21:25.08 | Winny | hehe |
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| 21:33.01 | Mets | blast007, if it's any help, Jeff, Flash and I did a little troubleshooting yesterday, and we're pretty sure that it isn't "true lag" it's just a bug in how the packets sent out/recieved are calculated |
| 21:33.17 | Mets | but I'm just checking in today, so maybe we've gotten past that point |
| 21:34.10 | Mets | I did some packet tests on your server and on norang before and during the lag spikes, and the true lag never changed; the client just thought there was excess lag |
| 21:34.30 | Mets | my 2c |
| 21:37.26 | catay | I added the remaining bantime in minutes to the banmessage when i player tries to rejoin after a ban |
| 21:37.32 | catay | but i'm not really sure it looks good |
| 21:37.35 | catay | http://catay.be/public/bzfi0003.png |
| 21:37.52 | catay | suggestions welcome :) |
| 21:39.24 | me1 | Blue on green is hard to read. |
| 21:39.33 | me1 | Or at least dark blue on dark green |
| 21:40.16 | catay | i only added the 'for xx.x minute(s)' part |
| 21:40.22 | me1 | Oh. |
| 21:40.34 | catay | the stuff before it stayed the same , also the colors |
| 21:40.40 | me1 | Oh |
| 21:40.49 | me1 | I wasn't banned before, so I didn't know :P |
| 21:41.04 | catay | but i agree that the blue color is a bit hard to read |
| 21:41.39 | catay | is bad at picking colors |
| 21:41.53 | me1 | Does it say "infinity minutes" or "permanent" when it's a perma/max ban? Also, it'd be nice if it said it in days for bans longer than a day or two. |
| 21:42.20 | catay | it only shows the minutes when it's less then a year |
| 21:42.31 | catay | the same behaviour as in a /banlist |
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| 21:50.02 | catay | me1: yup, that would be nice, it's harder to code also :p |
| 21:50.26 | me1 | catay, heh |
| 21:50.47 | me1 | hmm.. |
| 21:51.30 | Erroneous | we have a static function in TimeKeeper that does the days/hours/minutes thing iirc, catay |
| 21:51.35 | me1 | when trying to run autogen in branch I get an error: "eval: 1: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string" Would anyone know what would cause this? |
| 21:55.25 | Erroneous | an unterminated quoted string |
| 21:55.35 | Erroneous | :D |
| 21:55.39 | me1 | No wai! |
| 21:55.48 | Erroneous | ./autogen.sh --verbose |
| 21:55.51 | Erroneous | and pastebin the results |
| 21:55.55 | me1 | k |
| 21:56.06 | Erroneous | probably a missing ] in configure.in |
| 21:56.33 | bryjen | sends terminator for me1 |
| 21:56.50 | Mets | is still having his 2.99 client crash when he runs at full resolution :( |
| 21:57.07 | Erroneous | sends bryjen a pile of scsi terminators |
| 21:57.12 | Tupone | me1: what branch? |
| 21:57.23 | me1 | er |
| 21:57.24 | me1 | trunk |
| 21:57.30 | me1 | made a type |
| 21:57.32 | me1 | typo* |
| 21:57.59 | Tupone | well if you write "typo" is not a typo. |
| 21:58.26 | me1 | huh? |
| 21:58.32 | me1 | Erroneous, http://bzflag.pastebin.com/m7cb5ac9b |
| 21:58.52 | Tupone | forget. just a joke |
| 21:59.03 | bryjen | thwaps Erroneous with an SAS backplane |
| 22:00.21 | Erroneous | me1: interesting, have brlcad take a look at it |
| 22:00.39 | Winny | can I take a poll totally unreleated to BZFlag? |
| 22:00.43 | Erroneous | nope |
| 22:00.50 | Winny | ignores Erroneous |
| 22:00.57 | Winny | Hover tanks or robotanks? :p |
| 22:01.10 | Erroneous | pft, that's not unrelated |
| 22:01.13 | me1 | Winny, robotanks |
| 22:09.23 | me1 | I got it to work by removing the space in the directory. :D |
| 22:10.06 | catay | Erroneous: i'll have a look at that |
| 22:14.00 | Mets | votes for hover tanks |
| 22:14.05 | catay | convertTime(..) seems to be the function |
| 22:14.10 | Mets | i'd like a hover flag, lets you drive over top of burrow |
| 22:15.05 | me1 | Wouldn't that get rid of the point of "running over" burrow? |
| 22:15.13 | Mets | of course, it would be optimal if the game actually zoomed out to a profile view of the tank, went to a cutscene, and you watched it transform into a hover craft, but I'd settle for just the effects :p |
| 22:16.01 | catay | hehe |
| 22:16.53 | Mets | me1, details details |
| 22:17.01 | me1 | heh |
| 22:17.05 | Mets | you could explode the burrow from hovercraft exhaust |
| 22:17.50 | me1 | apparently doesn't have g++ :o |
| 22:21.31 | Mets | Winny, what's this for? |
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| 22:25.05 | Winny | Mets, a game |
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| 23:04.18 | Winny | this is the most awesome picture ever |
| 23:04.19 | Winny | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/DesertToCity.jpg |
| 23:08.16 | Mets | what article was that on? |
| 23:09.55 | Mets | oh DARPA Grand Challenge! |
| 23:10.34 | Mets | Stanford, bah, theifs :) |
| 23:11.08 | Mets | thieves* |
| 23:21.55 | spldart | meh.. typo and a half |
| 23:22.47 | Mets | heh, my theifs was pretty bad :p |
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| 23:54.12 | Winny | woo |
| 23:54.15 | Winny | 10.5.3 |
