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| 00:01.09 | pacman87 | me1: did you spawn outside the ring on my map, or did you lag through the wall? |
| 00:01.41 | me1 | er, both? i guess? i put my client on auto, then joined from another name, and found me1 to be out of the wall |
| 00:01.54 | me1 | i guessed that it was something to do with the thing that makes your bot spawn outside |
| 00:02.52 | pacman87 | ok. from my logs, you switched to auto, then went |
| 00:03.11 | pacman87 | [nr] for a while, came back from [nr], and then turned off auto |
| 00:03.24 | me1 | i switched to auto, then F4'd and joined again, and found me1 as out of the wall, and turned off auto |
| 00:03.30 | me1 | it goes nr? still? |
| 00:03.31 | me1 | :( |
| 00:03.43 | me1 | its not supposed to |
| 00:03.54 | me1 | is it? |
| 00:04.19 | pacman87 | you joined a second client? |
| 00:04.35 | me1 | yeah |
| 00:04.52 | pacman87 | to what server under what name? |
| 00:05.20 | me1 | the same server, under the_noob |
| 00:05.49 | me1 | and i noticed that me1 was like, outside the ring |
| 00:05.52 | me1 | and quit |
| 00:06.39 | pacman87 | autopilot shouldn't go [nr] when you minimize |
| 00:06.50 | me1 | yeah |
| 00:06.52 | pacman87 | do you want to try to do it again? |
| 00:06.56 | me1 | i've have that prob for a while |
| 00:06.56 | pacman87 | see if it's consistant? |
| 00:07.02 | pacman87 | what client? |
| 00:07.10 | me1 | svn |
| 00:07.35 | pacman87 | latest 2.0 |
| 00:07.53 | me1 | would your script cause any autopilot to spawn outside the ring, like pseudo? |
| 00:07.57 | pacman87 | no |
| 00:08.02 | pacman87 | just pseudonym |
| 00:08.17 | me1 | oh, then i probably just laged |
| 00:08.42 | pacman87 | an earlier version i forgot that check, so everyone spawned outside when the bot was banished |
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| 00:35.49 | me1 | is it known for linux clients to go [nr] instead of pausing when minimizing? |
| 00:36.29 | Winny | trunk or branch? |
| 00:36.41 | Gnurdux | that's happened to me before |
| 00:36.55 | me1 | branch, and i just remembered that it's been happening to me since like, 2.0.4 |
| 00:40.51 | me1 | heh, just crashed another server :P it doesn't seem to pause me in trunk either |
| 00:41.15 | AHA | me1, my client goes NR when minimized |
| 00:41.27 | AHA | and last i checked i am not running a cheat client |
| 00:41.31 | brlcad | hmm. "good news everybody." |
| 00:41.33 | me1 | i've been told its not supposed to do that |
| 00:41.42 | AHA | by whom? |
| 00:41.54 | pacman87 | the 2.0.10 win release auto pauses on minimize |
| 00:42.23 | me1 | it auto pauses for me on windows, but not on linux |
| 00:43.10 | AHA | same |
| 00:43.12 | Winny | brlcad, what good news? |
| 00:43.15 | AHA | it goes NR on ubuntu |
| 00:43.23 | brlcad | Winny: I'll announce it later :) |
| 00:43.35 | Winny | brlcad: you found every last one of us real lives?! |
| 00:44.01 | pacman87 | Winny: everyone but you. you're hopeless |
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| 00:44.04 | AHA | yay |
| 00:44.13 | F687s | smash teh router! |
| 00:44.22 | Winny | brlcad, on the forum, or here? |
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| 00:45.08 | brlcad | somewhere |
| 00:45.11 | a_meteorite | :o |
| 00:45.16 | Winny | k |
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| 00:45.36 | a_meteorite | I wanna know |
| 00:45.42 | Winny | awilcox! :o |
| 00:46.36 | me1 | how do you make it so windowed bzflag doesn't "trap" your mouse? |
| 00:46.53 | Winny | me1, input options |
| 00:46.55 | Winny | confine mouse off, IIRC |
| 00:46.56 | KTL | input option |
| 00:47.21 | me1 | cool |
| 00:47.23 | me1 | thanks |
| 00:48.22 | KTL | ~dict flex |
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| 00:56.32 | awilcox | ~bzsvn |
| 00:56.33 | ibot | i heard bzsvn is http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN and svn co https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/bzflag bzflag |
| 00:56.40 | awilcox | thanks ibot. |
| 00:56.47 | Winny | You havent memorized that yet?! |
| 00:56.52 | KTL | hehe |
| 00:56.57 | awilcox | not yet |
| 00:57.17 | KTL | the bot should say "no problem" |
| 00:57.31 | me1 | heh |
| 00:57.39 | Winny | ibot: thanks |
| 00:57.39 | ibot | sure thing, Winny |
| 00:57.43 | Winny | close enough |
| 01:01.16 | Winny | brlcad, care to announce? |
| 01:01.52 | brlcad | the anticipation must really be killing you, it's been all of 15 minutes |
| 01:02.22 | brlcad | later tonight, I gotta go lift now :) |
| 01:02.38 | Winny | grr |
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| 01:26.43 | Winny | JeffM, wanna delete this? http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=12300 |
| 01:27.07 | JeffM | uggg |
| 01:27.17 | Winny | hehe |
| 01:29.08 | spldart | the -public addy has to be accurate doesn't it? |
| 01:29.22 | JeffM | or nonexistant |
| 01:29.40 | spldart | should I say -publicaddr |
| 01:34.07 | JeffM | same thing |
| 01:34.14 | JeffM | it has to be right, or not there |
| 01:34.26 | JeffM | if it's not there one will be built for you from your IP |
| 01:34.49 | me1 | jeffm: did you manage to fix the bzfs problem? |
| 01:35.00 | JeffM | me? naw dude, I can't dupe it |
| 01:35.06 | me1 | ok |
| 01:35.18 | JeffM | tho I wonder if my branch server is still up |
| 01:35.36 | me1 | i was on it a little while ago, are there any good flags? |
| 01:35.52 | JeffM | I think I did +f |
| 01:35.53 | JeffM | so yeah |
| 01:35.57 | Winny | branch is 2.0, right? |
| 01:36.03 | JeffM | yes |
| 01:36.07 | spldart | hrm... I can shoot out my hollow meshes if I enter with OO but shots can't enter |
| 01:36.32 | JeffM | spldart, probably need inside points |
| 01:36.35 | JeffM | Winny, one of each |
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| 01:36.38 | Winny | ah |
| 01:37.10 | JeffM | Winny, got a clean version of that header image you made for the new page? |
| 01:37.29 | Winny | "clean"? |
| 01:37.36 | JeffM | like just the header |
| 01:37.38 | JeffM | nothing else |
| 01:37.55 | Winny | http://bzfusion.net/bzflag.org/test2/images/header.jpg |
| 01:37.57 | spldart | interesting |
| 01:37.57 | spldart | But yeah... that explains the lack of traffic this weekend... my work's dsl modem changed IP on friday |
| 01:37.58 | spldart | I mean addy |
| 01:38.24 | JeffM | spldart, have it auto-update a no-ip.com domain name |
| 01:38.31 | spldart | inside points? |
| 01:38.34 | JeffM | Winny, thanks |
| 01:38.37 | spldart | oh |
| 01:38.39 | spldart | ic |
| 01:38.43 | Winny | sure |
| 01:38.45 | JeffM | spldart, yeah, is the mesh convex or concave |
| 01:38.51 | awilcox | spldart: heh, my addy changed today after basically a year :) no biggie though, not hosting anything with it, just...noting it. |
| 01:39.08 | Winny | get a real server ;) |
| 01:39.30 | awilcox | Winny: oh puh-leese. |
| 01:39.33 | spldart | umm... I don't know really I made it in wings3d looks like a giant cocktail glass |
| 01:40.13 | spldart | used that converter, written by you? pehaps... to use it in my map |
| 01:40.53 | spldart | advil works for you? |
| 01:41.11 | JeffM | concave shapes need inside and outside points defined so they collide correctly |
| 01:42.24 | JeffM | and I did not write the wings exporter, I did model tool |
| 01:42.40 | JeffM | wings == "the back part of a donkey" In my book ;) |
| 01:42.45 | Winny | this is a bit of a nooby question, but how long would it take (on average) to learn C++ well enough to start into open GL? |
| 01:43.00 | JeffM | Winny, a day |
| 01:43.02 | awilcox | Winny: that's easy. use C :P |
| 01:43.10 | JeffM | the C ins't the hard part of 3d stuff |
| 01:43.19 | JeffM | it's learnign the 3d stuff ;) |
| 01:43.26 | Winny | hehe |
| 01:43.26 | awilcox | Winny: now the 3D math stuff...well...years ;) |
| 01:43.46 | JeffM | I can give you a class that will get you going in openGL in like 10 min |
| 01:43.57 | JeffM | it's knowing what to do with the GL |
| 01:44.03 | spldart | oh |
| 01:44.03 | spldart | I get outside collision only for shots.. that explains that then |
| 01:44.11 | JeffM | all you can realy tell GL to do is draw shapes |
| 01:44.25 | spldart | I didn't say it was an exporter... I used modeltool |
| 01:44.31 | JeffM | ahh |
| 01:44.44 | JeffM | yeah it dosnt' do any automatic point generation |
| 01:44.50 | JeffM | you do those by hand |
| 01:44.57 | spldart | nice |
| 01:45.02 | JeffM | the cup part will be "wierd" ;) |
| 01:45.02 | Winny | ok, thanks |
| 01:45.39 | awilcox | Winny: may want to read "Interactive Computer Graphics using OpenGL" ... I'm just starting to read it and it's nice |
| 01:45.56 | awilcox | then again, I wrote a kernel so I kinda know C really, really well. |
| 01:46.27 | JeffM | dude, redbook |
| 01:46.33 | JeffM | start with the redbook |
| 01:46.39 | JeffM | not ICG |
| 01:46.49 | JeffM | redbook will give him the taste |
| 01:46.53 | JeffM | and its' free |
| 01:47.27 | spldart | Free.... that's the right price |
| 01:47.41 | JeffM | at least I think the redbook is free |
| 01:47.44 | JeffM | bluebook is |
| 01:48.05 | JeffM | http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~unreal/theredbook/ |
| 01:48.35 | JeffM | tho this is the official page |
| 01:48.36 | JeffM | http://www.opengl.org/documentation/red_book/ |
| 01:49.41 | Winny | thanks |
| 01:49.56 | JeffM | you can also do the nehe tutorials |
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| 02:02.55 | KTL | and probability is high it's the same person who mentions it now :D |
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| 02:19.02 | spldart | ... a naughty little vampire god |
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| 02:26.42 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * r16645 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: unshadow variable |
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| 03:01.15 | spldart | Umm... a user by the name Peter 4B is DEFINITELY under 13... In my opinion.... Just a fyi and warning |
| 03:02.25 | spldart | he's a bit.. disturbing |
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| 03:04.51 | spldart | I guess he could be post 13 and mentally handicapped heh |
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| 03:17.28 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * r16646 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzrobots/ (Shot.cxx Shot.h): gcc complained 'class has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor' |
| 03:19.04 | JeffM | and every triangle has 3 corners, every triangle has 3 sides. no more, no less. you don't have to guess. when it's 3 yu can see.. it's the magic number! |
| 03:19.20 | spldart | 5 is right out! |
| 03:20.18 | JeffM | 5 is not magic |
| 03:20.43 | bryjen | everyone needs more virtual destruction ;) |
| 03:21.32 | JeffM | thank the gods. real photoshop! |
| 03:21.50 | bryjen | oxymoron much? |
| 03:22.03 | JeffM | ever use PS elements? |
| 03:23.25 | JeffM | ok, any webheads here? ;) |
| 03:23.47 | spldart | maybe even a spider monkey :) |
| 03:24.02 | spldart | That's it.. to drunk... night everyone |
| 03:24.08 | JeffM | I want to know where the green image int he background of this is |
| 03:24.09 | JeffM | http://tanks4code.blogspot.com/ |
| 03:24.15 | JeffM | cus I wants to replace it |
| 03:26.55 | bryjen | http://www.blogblog.com/tictac/top_div_left.gif in a long!@# single-line css definition |
| 03:27.10 | JeffM | thank you sir |
| 03:28.03 | JeffM | ie 7 support real png transpereancy? |
| 03:28.58 | JeffM | no not mine |
| 03:29.03 | JeffM | for the other sad saps |
| 03:29.17 | JeffM | do I do gif like they did or can do I png and be generaly |
| 03:29.19 | JeffM | ok |
| 03:36.53 | JeffM | hmm, better but not quite :) |
| 03:39.54 | JeffM | Winny: you arround? |
| 03:44.53 | JeffM | how's that look? |
| 03:44.54 | JeffM | http://tanks4code.blogspot.com/ |
| 04:06.58 | JeffM | brlcad: you there? |
| 04:22.15 | blast007 | JeffM: and yes, IE7 supports 24-bit PNGs with alpha transparency |
| 04:24.32 | JeffM | blast007: cool |
| 04:27.13 | JeffM | ok, so that page dosn't look so bad with a post on it :) |
| 04:27.27 | JeffM | blast007: want to mentor this year? ;) |
| 04:27.40 | blast007 | sure |
| 04:30.54 | JeffM | Winny's title image sure does work well in many cases. |
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| 04:53.13 | JeffM | there now yon mentor blog shows the CIA commits. |
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| 05:11.55 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffM -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || logs at http://ibot.rikers.org/#bzflag || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || 2.0.10 is the latest public release || GSoC 2008 is on, join #gsoc if you're interested in participating (mentors and students) http://tanks4code.blogspot.com/ |
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| 05:34.31 | jorgenpt | Oh teh pun of tanks 4 code ;p |
| 05:36.30 | JeffM | indeed |
| 05:38.15 | jorgenpt | But neat |
| 05:38.16 | jorgenpt | :-) |
| 05:38.36 | JeffM | mentors can blog too :) |
| 05:39.05 | jorgenpt | Yep ;) |
| 05:39.15 | jorgenpt | Shoulda woulda coulda blogged more during bzflag |
| 05:39.21 | jorgenpt | * during gsoc |
| 05:39.33 | jorgenpt | But I guess I can just say I was too busy codin' ;) |
| 05:40.51 | JeffM | well we do hope to do a few things difrent this time if possible |
| 05:42.42 | jorgenpt | Anything regarding reporting and updates? |
| 05:42.57 | JeffM | ohh yeah |
| 05:42.59 | JeffM | commit like mad |
| 05:43.14 | JeffM | and more working with everyone from the start |
| 05:43.25 | JeffM | none of the "go off and do it" kinda mentality |
| 05:43.43 | jorgenpt | I got the impression that that mentality was discouraged last year, too? |
| 05:43.58 | JeffM | only at the end |
| 05:46.55 | jorgenpt | I have vague memories of being caned by brlcad for delivering large commits |
| 05:46.59 | jorgenpt | Or perhaps it was you. ;-) |
| 05:47.05 | JeffM | probalby all of us |
| 05:47.18 | JeffM | but we want more granularity in the planing stage too |
| 05:47.22 | jorgenpt | But that was early on :) |
| 05:47.37 | JeffM | and also real devs and stuff working on the code at the same time |
| 05:48.02 | JeffM | all we have to do is be able to track your progress that you've worked, not that you did some big project all by yourself. |
| 05:48.04 | jorgenpt | I'd recommend you stop using that terminology when the students arrive ;-) |
| 05:48.20 | JeffM | ok, regular devs |
| 05:48.22 | JeffM | how bout that |
| 05:48.29 | JeffM | non students, and non mentors |
| 05:48.32 | blast007 | hehe |
| 05:48.36 | jorgenpt | ;-) |
| 05:48.37 | jorgenpt | Yep |
| 05:48.42 | jorgenpt | Much better |
| 05:48.56 | JeffM | comunity devs |
| 05:48.58 | JeffM | how's that sound |
| 05:49.20 | jorgenpt | Community / regular is equally good, I'd say. |
| 05:49.39 | jorgenpt | But I doubt you need a document stating the politically correct terms to use during gsoc ;) |
| 05:49.53 | JeffM | naw |
| 05:52.30 | pacman87 | anyone know if there's a plugin i can look at that stores data long term (read/write from txt file?) |
| 05:53.17 | JeffM | you want an example of doing file IO? |
| 05:53.55 | pacman87 | basically, yes |
| 05:53.55 | JeffM | like basic C file read/write? |
| 05:54.08 | pacman87 | there's nothing special i have to worry about in a plugin? |
| 05:54.10 | JeffM | no |
| 05:54.13 | pacman87 | ok, thanks |
| 05:54.18 | JeffM | it's C code |
| 05:54.19 | JeffM | that's it |
| 05:54.42 | JeffM | you may not know the current directory, that'd be about it. |
| 05:54.47 | a_meteorite | JeffM: isn't there some issues with a plugin linking to other stuff than the api in windows? |
| 05:54.56 | JeffM | a_meteorite: nope |
| 05:55.10 | JeffM | you can't call other stuff in bzfs |
| 05:55.14 | a_meteorite | oh, there was something in the docs about linking bzfs stuff |
| 05:55.16 | a_meteorite | ahhh yeah |
| 05:55.18 | JeffM | other then what's in the API |
| 05:55.32 | JeffM | and you can't new/free memory across the DLL boundry |
| 05:55.34 | JeffM | that's it |
| 05:55.45 | JeffM | but the plug-in can do whatever it wants, as long as its all in the plug-in |
| 05:56.08 | JeffM | that's the point of them ;) |
| 05:56.29 | JeffM | the python plug-in links to another language even |
| 05:56.34 | a_meteorite | yeah |
| 05:59.07 | coffee | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=12295 |
| 05:59.20 | coffee | Does anyone get what he's trying to say? |
| 05:59.44 | JeffM | he dosn't like playing on a server across an ocean |
| 05:59.49 | JeffM | and wants the leauges split up |
| 06:00.08 | JeffM | then he has a self refrencing coversation |
| 06:00.12 | JeffM | showing that he is not sane |
| 06:00.17 | whodaman | I wonder why the '!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' are needed |
| 06:00.30 | jorgenpt | I think he's referring to the last post? |
| 06:00.34 | JeffM | cus he's an ideot |
| 06:00.45 | jorgenpt | "U dont must match against american players Tongue :p" |
| 06:00.51 | jorgenpt | s/Tongue // |
| 06:01.09 | whodaman | were talking about the first post in the thread |
| 06:01.16 | whodaman | although the last post is quite special too |
| 06:01.21 | whodaman | meh |
| 06:01.27 | jorgenpt | :-P |
| 06:01.27 | whodaman | cya |
| 06:01.30 | jorgenpt | Cya |
| 06:12.26 | Winny | brlcad, annocement! :p |
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| 11:26.37 | Constitution | ~L4m3r++ |
| 11:28.39 | tannerld | ~L4m3r++ |
| 11:29.59 | Constitution | gah think_tank |
| 11:30.18 | Constitution | what are you doing with all those groups? :P |
| 11:35.01 | a_meteorite | he's going to take over the world with them |
| 11:35.36 | a_meteorite | "Everyone must be in a group! Bwahaha! Classification until you're all controlled by a single owner!" |
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| 17:03.35 | JeffM | ok, step 2, t-shirts.. we need wicked cool t-shirts |
| 17:03.42 | JeffM | Winny, you arround? |
| 17:14.57 | whodaman | Winny, wont be here for another 2-3 hours |
| 17:15.45 | whodaman | *Winny |
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| 17:27.11 | JeffM | anyone got ideas for a t-shirt? |
| 17:28.05 | JBdiGriz | Preferably 2 arms, and a hole for the neck. |
| 17:28.10 | ruskie | big plasma ball coming from a barrel |
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| 17:28.18 | bz59 | jeff |
| 17:28.34 | bz59 | pm jeffM |
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| 17:28.44 | think_tank | heh |
| 17:28.46 | JeffM2501 | odd |
| 17:28.49 | JeffM2501 | ;) |
| 17:28.55 | think_tank | you were getting all ready too |
| 17:29.29 | JeffM2501 | always be prepared |
| 17:29.46 | JBdiGriz | That's the Boy Scouts fighting song. |
| 17:30.07 | L4m3r | o_O |
| 17:30.25 | L4m3r | who was that? |
| 17:31.53 | JeffM2501 | dunno |
| 17:31.59 | JeffM2501 | we'll see if they come back |
| 17:32.16 | CBG | JeffM2501: t-shirts? 3.0 coming up? |
| 17:32.25 | JeffM2501 | SoC and sure, 3.0 |
| 17:32.32 | JeffM2501 | in general we need shirts that don't suck |
| 17:32.36 | JeffM2501 | black ones |
| 17:32.38 | CBG | heh |
| 17:32.40 | JeffM2501 | with awesomeness |
| 17:36.23 | think_tank | maybe something that implies "I fix tanks during my summer break"? too lame? |
| 17:36.26 | JeffM2501 | all good reasons to have them |
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| 17:36.36 | JeffM2501 | think_tank, not SoC specific |
| 17:36.42 | think_tank | ah |
| 17:36.55 | JeffM2501 | we just need them to wear to the mentor sumit to look all cool |
| 17:37.13 | JeffM2501 | and it'd be nice to have some to give out to students etc.. |
| 17:37.32 | JeffM2501 | techincaly we have some moeny left from the last SoC, we could print up a bunch and sell them. |
| 17:37.42 | L4m3r | "BZFlag: Because camping is more fun with tanks" |
| 17:37.53 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 17:37.56 | JBdiGriz | Long sleeves, with tanks firing down the arms. |
| 17:38.09 | JeffM2501 | cool, but more expensive to print ;) |
| 17:38.28 | JBdiGriz | You wanted awesomeness. Awesomeness is expensive. |
| 17:38.29 | JeffM2501 | be nice to get a wiki page up of potential designs |
| 17:38.34 | JeffM2501 | this is true |
| 17:39.02 | JeffM2501 | it would be nice to have a short sleve, long sleve, and a hoddie design |
| 17:39.54 | whodaman | JeffM2501, hmm, are you thinking of something that's also advertising? |
| 17:40.06 | JeffM2501 | eventaly I'd like to see a series of baseball or footbal (socker) shirts with stripes in the team colors for each team. |
| 17:40.07 | whodaman | Like bzflag.org on the back or some other links |
| 17:40.12 | JeffM2501 | whodaman, yes |
| 17:40.14 | JBdiGriz | How about the back of a tank on the back of the T-shirt with a bumper sticker? (I don't brake for anything) |
| 17:40.28 | JeffM2501 | I brake for guided missiles. |
| 17:40.46 | whodaman | heh |
| 17:40.50 | JeffM2501 | our icon is a decent enough logo image |
| 17:40.57 | JeffM2501 | it's clean, and high contrast. |
| 17:40.57 | JBdiGriz | The PC crowd will object. |
| 17:41.24 | JeffM2501 | someone will always object to something ;) |
| 17:41.35 | CBG | I object to that statement! |
| 17:42.01 | whodaman | JeffM2501, how about having the icon on the back... and maybe like "BZFlag" on the upper left on the front, where the pocket would usually be and beneath that a small link to bzflag.org |
| 17:42.21 | JeffM2501 | whodaman, or the shoulder I was thiking |
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| 17:42.36 | whodaman | hey, that's cool |
| 17:42.36 | JeffM2501 | thats the most basic design I have in mind, but I wonder if anyone else has others |
| 17:42.51 | whodaman | JeffM2501, or maybe the BZFLAG.ORG going down the sleeve? |
| 17:42.51 | JeffM2501 | saturos did a bunch of cool ones for bzflag.de |
| 17:43.31 | JeffM2501 | perhaps |
| 17:43.37 | JeffM2501 | draw something up ;) |
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| 17:43.57 | JeffM2501 | it's simple enough to get the shirt layout images from the various print on demand sites |
| 17:44.03 | JeffM2501 | then gimp something up |
| 17:44.10 | whodaman | JeffM2501, heh.. I could do it by hand :) |
| 17:44.18 | JeffM2501 | whatever floats your boat |
| 17:44.43 | JBdiGriz | whodaman: Scanners work in that mode. |
| 17:44.51 | whodaman | yeah |
| 17:47.03 | JeffM2501 | I was thinking for simplicy, first round would be black shirt with white text |
| 17:47.43 | whodaman | yeah, that would keep the price down a bit, too? |
| 17:48.07 | JeffM2501 | single color printing will be cheaper, and honestly will look better |
| 17:48.44 | whodaman | mhm |
| 17:52.11 | L4m3r | it's not hard to make a good graphic with one color, either |
| 17:52.21 | L4m3r | especially something as simple and geometric as bzflag :P |
| 17:52.29 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
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| 18:08.22 | L4m3r | hehe... "My other car is a tank. / http://bzflag.org" |
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| 18:09.50 | L4m3r | or maybe "My other car is a flying tank that shoots radioactive ping-pong balls" |
| 18:10.10 | JeffM2501 | it wont' shoot ping pong balls in 3.0 |
| 18:10.20 | L4m3r | true |
| 18:10.20 | JeffM2501 | mini lightsabers |
| 18:10.47 | JeffM2501 | still haven't come up with a good idea for GM in expermeiental tho :( |
| 18:11.21 | ruskie | no more ping pong balls :((( |
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| 18:11.35 | JeffM2501 | well you can have them in low, med,high |
| 18:11.43 | JeffM2501 | have you seend the new stuff? |
| 18:11.49 | ruskie | no |
| 18:11.50 | L4m3r | it would've been nice to have trepan's shots in 2.0 |
| 18:11.59 | L4m3r | the fireball-looking ones |
| 18:12.01 | JeffM2501 | I didn't like them |
| 18:12.03 | JeffM2501 | too dirty |
| 18:13.24 | L4m3r | wow my checkout of trunk is old :P |
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| 18:42.56 | JeffM | so how hard is it to keep a branch in sync with trunk? |
| 18:54.14 | Erroneous | not too hard if you keep up on it |
| 18:54.39 | JeffM | any way to automate it? |
| 18:55.18 | Erroneous | not really |
| 18:55.29 | Erroneous | as you make more changes you need to merge more stuff by hand |
| 18:55.46 | JeffM | fun |
| 18:56.06 | Erroneous | unless you use git. git uses magic. |
| 18:56.16 | JeffM | heh |
| 18:56.47 | a_meteorite | brain > computer |
| 18:57.29 | a_meteorite | for those that use it, that is ;) |
| 19:21.01 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16647 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/bzflag.cxx: split up mymain to break out the display specific inits into specific functions. |
| 19:22.23 | Constitution | cool |
| 19:23.00 | Constitution | will we be moving all the graphics code into it's own subdir? or just splitting out the files? |
| 19:23.13 | JeffM | multi step process |
| 19:23.17 | JeffM | this is not going to be easy |
| 19:23.39 | JeffM | step 1 is to just FIND the code ;) |
| 19:23.49 | JeffM | and clean up all the inconsistencies |
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| 19:23.57 | JeffM | like the fact that we have a global display |
| 19:24.13 | JeffM | pass that pointer into a function called startPlaying |
| 19:24.26 | JeffM | then asign that local param back to the global display |
| 19:24.53 | JeffM | and the fact that the sceenerendere is a singleton |
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| 19:25.05 | JeffM | and we pass the instance to it into start playing |
| 19:25.18 | JeffM | then init a global ponter to a sceenerendere ro that instance |
| 19:26.59 | JeffM | the hard part will be platform |
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| 19:47.23 | Winny | JeffM, hi |
| 19:48.19 | JeffM | wana make a t-shirt design? |
| 19:48.27 | Winny | I suppose |
| 19:48.33 | JeffM | you don't have to |
| 19:48.40 | JeffM | and also thanks for the header image |
| 19:48.44 | JeffM | it worked out well |
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| 20:16.41 | JeffM | Erroneous, what is the config item to confine the mouse? |
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| 20:22.01 | Winny | JeffM, what kind of t-shirt? |
| 20:22.08 | Winny | for GSoC, BZFlag in general? |
| 20:23.20 | JeffM | bzflag |
| 20:24.28 | Tedius | use a screenshot of a tank flinging a bunch of bullets, with the tagline: "Dodge This!" |
| 20:26.17 | jftsang | .............. can anyone else connect onto ashleypogi13's server? |
| 20:26.28 | jftsang | because I can't, and I get the feeling he's running bots |
| 20:28.19 | Winny | ooh. |
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| 20:42.26 | jack59splat59 | hey everyone |
| 20:42.37 | Constitution | hello |
| 20:42.42 | Winny | hi |
| 20:43.10 | jack59splat59 | can anyone help me change the name of my game so I can easily find it on another computer? |
| 20:43.10 | Dessy | hi |
| 20:43.23 | Winny | the name of your game? |
| 20:43.28 | jack59splat59 | yeah |
| 20:43.36 | Winny | explain.. |
| 20:43.43 | Erroneous | JeffM: confineMouse, iirc |
| 20:43.46 | Winny | I don't see what you want to do |
| 20:44.08 | jack59splat59 | I just have no idea how to make it a certain name after the sever host |
| 20:44.30 | Winny | Don't host it from the client |
| 20:44.41 | Winny | http://my.bzflag.org/w/Creating_A_Server |
| 20:44.57 | jack59splat59 | thanks |
| 20:45.04 | Winny | what OS? |
| 20:48.05 | jack59splat59 | Leopard |
| 20:48.55 | jack59splat59 | is that bad? |
| 20:49.01 | Dessy | leopard? |
| 20:49.09 | jftsang | Mac? |
| 20:49.11 | Dessy | i think that isnt a OS :P |
| 20:49.15 | jack59splat59 | Mac |
| 20:49.23 | Winny | Dessy: apple.com/maxosx |
| 20:49.37 | jftsang | mhm, and you are using the client's Start Server function? |
| 20:49.43 | Dessy | leopard isnt a OS i think |
| 20:49.46 | Dessy | not mac :P |
| 20:49.53 | jack59splat59 | yes it is |
| 20:49.53 | Constitution | yes it is |
| 20:49.56 | Winny | yes it is... |
| 20:49.59 | Dessy | hm |
| 20:50.11 | Winny | http://www.apple.com/macosx/ |
| 20:50.11 | jack59splat59 | Mac OS X Leopard |
| 20:50.21 | jack59splat59 | what's that gonna do? |
| 20:50.24 | Dessy | is says: Hmm, the page you’re looking for can’t be found. |
| 20:50.28 | Dessy | :p |
| 20:50.34 | Winny | no it doesn't? |
| 20:50.55 | jack59splat59 | worked for me |
| 20:51.06 | whodaman | worked for me |
| 20:51.15 | jack59splat59 | anyway |
| 20:51.16 | whodaman | And yeah, leopard IS an OS, Deepa|AFK |
| 20:51.18 | whodaman | err |
| 20:51.20 | whodaman | Dessy, |
| 20:51.34 | Dessy | hm didnt knew it, sry then :) |
| 20:51.36 | jack59splat59 | I told you |
| 20:51.45 | jack59splat59 | anyway... |
| 20:51.52 | jack59splat59 | can I run it from my mac? |
| 20:52.02 | Dessy | bzflag server for mac --> http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3940 |
| 20:52.02 | Winny | yeah |
| 20:52.11 | Winny | not the best option, but it's doable |
| 20:52.16 | jack59splat59 | ok, I'll check this page out |
| 20:53.23 | jack59splat59 | ahh forget it |
| 20:53.31 | jftsang | why? |
| 20:53.35 | jack59splat59 | I think I'll just play on the normal servers |
| 20:53.44 | jack59splat59 | this takes too many thing |
| 20:53.45 | jftsang | what do you mean by "normal" server |
| 20:53.49 | jack59splat59 | things |
| 20:53.55 | jftsang | ...like? |
| 20:53.58 | jack59splat59 | one someone already made :P |
| 20:53.58 | tannerld | servers in the server list? |
| 20:54.04 | jack59splat59 | yeah |
| 20:54.22 | jack59splat59 | I need a static IP address and all that stuff |
| 20:54.25 | jftsang | do you have a map? if not, you might want to consider getting a map first |
| 20:54.36 | jack59splat59 | I don't even have a map |
| 20:54.38 | jftsang | you don't need a static IP, you can use DynDNS to get a domain name for your IP |
| 20:54.39 | Dessy | u dont need a static ip |
| 20:54.41 | jack59splat59 | see what I mean? |
| 20:54.56 | jack59splat59 | I don't have anything I need for it |
| 20:55.06 | jack59splat59 | and I have no idea how to do this, lol |
| 20:55.09 | Dessy | argh jftsang was faster :P |
| 20:55.21 | jack59splat59 | I'll just go on a normal public server |
| 20:55.22 | jftsang | if you obtain a mp (for example download) it's easy |
| 20:55.26 | jack59splat59 | cya later guys |
| 21:04.00 | jorgenpt | JeffM: Are you separating GUI & client? |
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| 21:19.14 | jftsang | actually, I would like to see the client Start Server having more functions |
| 21:19.32 | jftsang | a -public might be nice, as well as the ability to type in the path to your map |
| 21:21.02 | Winny | ~pw |
| 21:21.03 | ibot | patches welcome is, like, a common response by maintainers of Open Source products. It's roughly means "We don't have much time on our hands, so if you write that feature and send it to us we will likely roll it in. If you don't have the time to write it, we don't either. Stop asking for it." |
| 21:22.02 | jftsang | erm, so under which file do I look for the Start Server? |
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| 21:23.18 | Constitution | huh? |
| 21:23.42 | jftsang | oh, I've just answered my own question :) |
| 21:23.53 | jftsang | now if I remember any C++ which I learned |
| 21:24.10 | Constitution | practice makes permanent |
| 21:24.14 | whodaman | heh |
| 21:24.17 | jftsang | :) |
| 21:24.52 | Winny | lol |
| 21:28.51 | F687s | ew? |
| 21:29.28 | F687s | BZFlag 3.0 "Speedy Turtle" |
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| 21:34.37 | JeffM | sonic turtle |
| 21:34.59 | JeffM | Erroneous, mousegrab |
| 21:35.16 | Erroneous | shows you what I know |
| 21:35.19 | jftsang | God only knows what listening to Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds hours on end does to my mind |
| 21:35.21 | JeffM | heh |
| 21:35.38 | JeffM | now to figure out why we quit right after startup |
| 21:35.49 | Winny | We could take on the ubuntu naming thing |
| 21:35.56 | Winny | BZFlag Hungry Hippo |
| 21:35.58 | JeffM | ooooo exception handling |
| 21:36.27 | JeffM | Erroneous, so how do I find out what threew said exception? |
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| 21:36.54 | F687s | Winny, yeah right. |
| 21:41.10 | jftsang | in ServerStartMenu.cxx, I see stuff like this |
| 21:41.10 | jftsang | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.25 | Constitution | haha, it works |
| 21:41.27 | Constitution | oops |
| 21:41.30 | jftsang | this seems to be a choice; can I have it so the user can supply a string? |
| 21:41.49 | Constitution | jftsang: that's for when to end the game, iirc |
| 21:41.58 | jftsang | yes |
| 21:42.04 | jftsang | but... just an example |
| 21:42.26 | Constitution | an example of what? |
| 21:42.33 | jftsang | it uses createList() to make a list from which the user can choose a value |
| 21:42.48 | jftsang | is there a function which allows the user to type in any value |
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| 21:51.38 | blast007 | jftsang: sure, look at other menus |
| 21:51.52 | blast007 | like oh, I don't know, the join menu? since that has an area to enter stuff |
| 21:52.25 | jftsang | oh, of course... why had I not thought of that |
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| 21:53.51 | jftsang | where did you declare the variables like listHUD and callsign |
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| 21:57.41 | me1 | the header file? |
| 21:58.44 | jftsang | yup |
| 21:58.46 | blast007 | jftsang: read the code |
| 21:59.22 | me1 | i would get the header for joinmenu.cxx would be joinmenu.h |
| 21:59.28 | blast007 | or get an IDE where you can right click on a variable, and then "Go to definition" |
| 21:59.40 | me1 | s/get/guess |
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| 22:14.43 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16648 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ (9 files): only use one sceenerenderer, and one display. |
| 22:15.20 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16649 10/trunk/bzflag/BUGS: clients can indeed connect to servers, the bug was fixed |
| 22:16.00 | JeffM | ok, who wants to fix client side bots? |
| 22:16.12 | jftsang | what do you mean? |
| 22:16.16 | JeffM | they don't work |
| 22:16.32 | JeffM | try bzflag -solo 2 and conenct to a server ( trunk) |
| 22:16.45 | jftsang | on 2.99? |
| 22:16.53 | JeffM | Erroneous wants us to fix bugs, so lets go and fix a buttload of bugs. |
| 22:16.53 | jftsang | wait |
| 22:16.55 | JeffM | yes |
| 22:16.57 | JeffM | trunk |
| 22:17.00 | jftsang | *gets latest version* |
| 22:17.11 | JeffM | I'm trying to see who is willing to fix what |
| 22:17.15 | JeffM | aka, poking people. |
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| 22:26.20 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16650 10/trunk/bzflag/BUGS: |
| 22:26.20 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: remove bugs relating to unsuported bsp mode when there is no depth buffer ( there always is one now ) |
| 22:26.20 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: start sorting bugs by affected section / type. |
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| 22:53.26 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16651 10/trunk/bzflag/BUGS: sort more of the bugs. |
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| 22:55.34 | JeffM | it's gotta be more then just me |
| 22:55.41 | JeffM | I'm looking for people to take on bugs |
| 22:55.51 | JeffM | so if you were looking to help, nows the time |
| 22:55.57 | jftsang | what sort of bugs? |
| 22:55.59 | JeffM | pick one and start digin |
| 22:56.01 | JeffM | ANY |
| 22:56.10 | JeffM | look at the list |
| 22:56.13 | JeffM | pick one |
| 22:56.18 | JeffM | try to figure it out |
| 22:56.23 | JeffM | dupe it |
| 22:56.26 | JeffM | etc.. |
| 22:56.30 | JeffM | if you get stuck, ask |
| 22:56.49 | JeffM | we mentored for SoC, we can mentor for our own people ;) |
| 22:57.42 | jftsang | jitter on Windows servers happened in 2.0 as well methinks |
| 22:58.09 | JeffM | if you don't want to do it, pass it by ;) |
| 22:58.29 | JeffM | but if you want to help, or even learn to program, pick one and try |
| 22:58.50 | JeffM | or even testing the bugs again, and geting more info on them will help |
| 22:59.01 | JeffM | dupe them, provide instructions on them, and get that writen down. |
| 22:59.21 | JeffM | ether as a SF bug report number we can attach to the list, or a wiki article, ether is good. |
| 22:59.44 | me1 | jeffm: on the main page, TODO's link is broked. |
| 22:59.59 | JeffM | dosn't suprise me |
| 23:00.07 | JeffM | since it probably links to CVS |
| 23:00.12 | me1 | <a href="http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/bzflag/trunk/bzflag/TODO class="navbar">TODO</a> |
| 23:00.14 | me1 | no |
| 23:00.17 | me1 | forgot a quote |
| 23:00.23 | JeffM | bad way of doing it |
| 23:00.31 | JeffM | it should go to the wiki |
| 23:00.40 | JeffM | and be named "get involved" |
| 23:01.03 | me1 | there is get involved |
| 23:01.15 | me1 | goes here: http://bzflag.org/getin/ |
| 23:01.43 | JeffM | ok that's just bad |
| 23:01.44 | JeffM | and old |
| 23:01.53 | JeffM | needs to go to the new wiki ;) |
| 23:02.41 | jftsang | why did the developers put observer_bolt.png into the /data/ folder... what's it ever going to do? |
| 23:03.16 | JeffM | probalby cus someone had an idea to work with it |
| 23:03.33 | jftsang | (eg that cheater on Pythonian) |
| 23:03.40 | JeffM | it may be used if we change how teams work, like in open FFA |
| 23:03.48 | JeffM | and just use it as a color |
| 23:04.07 | JeffM | does it bother you THAT Much? |
| 23:04.52 | jftsang | no... just that I see loads of white tanks shooting light-blue bullets on some servers |
| 23:04.59 | JeffM | that'd be a bug |
| 23:05.02 | JeffM | that should be fixed. |
| 23:05.10 | JeffM | it is not the fault of the image |
| 23:05.33 | jftsang | I haven't seen many of those recently though |
| 23:05.45 | JeffM | probably was a mallformed message |
| 23:05.48 | JeffM | or a state that was off |
| 23:06.45 | me1 | iirc, it was made when teams were added to world weapons, as another team to use |
| 23:06.52 | me1 | the observer_bolt |
| 23:07.03 | JeffM | maybe |
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| 23:16.47 | pacman87 | does anyone compiling 3.0 on windows want to update http://my.bzflag.org/w/Category:Compiling? |
| 23:17.21 | jftsang | 3.0 is roughly the same, just you don't need libcURL |
| 23:17.33 | jftsang | well, you do, but it comes with libcURL |
| 23:18.20 | pacman87 | ok, cool. I'm planning on trying it out later tonight, so i'll see how it goes. |
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| 23:19.39 | L4m3r | guess I'll run gdb if it does |
| 23:19.54 | jftsang | well, goodnight all |
| 23:20.00 | spldart | Grr |
| 23:20.15 | spldart | I still haven't had a sucssesful build on trunk with gdb |
| 23:21.37 | L4m3r | hm, the client worked, but segfaulted at the "change video format" menu |
| 23:24.05 | whodaman | ~Constitution++ |
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| 23:28.38 | L4m3r | figures. I ran it under gdb and couldn't get it to crash :P |
| 23:30.45 | JeffM | pacman87, use the readme for windows in the source |
| 23:30.50 | JeffM | that has the current info |
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| 23:31.05 | JeffM | the wiki should not be updated yet, because 3.0 hasnt' been done yet ;) |
| 23:31.08 | jack59splat59 | hey everybody |
| 23:31.11 | JeffM | hello |
| 23:31.49 | jack59splat59 | anyone here from a few hr ago? |
| 23:31.56 | JeffM | pacman87, and that page needs to be rewriten |
| 23:32.01 | JeffM | jack59splat59, prety much everyone |
| 23:32.04 | JeffM | what is up? |
| 23:32.07 | jack59splat59 | lol |
| 23:32.13 | jack59splat59 | I was just checking in |
| 23:32.20 | JeffM | with? |
| 23:32.23 | jack59splat59 | I never did make the server |
| 23:32.28 | JeffM | what server? |
| 23:32.34 | JeffM | people can't read your mind |
| 23:32.37 | jack59splat59 | for BZFlag |
| 23:32.44 | JeffM | I gathered that |
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| 23:32.54 | jack59splat59 | weren't you here? |
| 23:32.58 | jack59splat59 | yeah you were |
| 23:33.02 | JeffM | probalby was |
| 23:33.09 | JeffM | dosn't mean I payed attention to what you said |
| 23:33.10 | jack59splat59 | you were that other guy I was talking to |
| 23:33.19 | JeffM | were you under this name? |
| 23:33.25 | jack59splat59 | yup |
| 23:33.39 | jack59splat59 | remember now? |
| 23:33.42 | JeffM | you were taking to winnny |
| 23:33.43 | JeffM | not I |
| 23:33.46 | JeffM | I was at lunch |
| 23:33.49 | jack59splat59 | and you too |
| 23:33.52 | JeffM | nope |
| 23:34.01 | ShadowSpectre | Listening and caring are two different things :P |
| 23:34.02 | jack59splat59 | you were chatting a little bit, I remember |
| 23:34.07 | jack59splat59 | lol |
| 23:34.08 | JeffM | dude, I have the logs |
| 23:34.11 | JeffM | wasn't me |
| 23:34.16 | jack59splat59 | hey Dessy |
| 23:34.30 | Winny | Desst just left |
| 23:34.31 | Winny | .. |
| 23:34.43 | JeffM | see the words "has quit" ? |
| 23:34.45 | jack59splat59 | dang it! |
| 23:34.51 | Winny | heh |
| 23:34.56 | jack59splat59 | I just say Dessy |
| 23:35.04 | jack59splat59 | wasn't paying much attention |
| 23:35.08 | JeffM | obviously |
| 23:35.21 | jack59splat59 | I'm trying to be in 2 chat rooms at the same time |
| 23:35.32 | ShadowSpectre | aw Jeff, be easy on him. You're too tough for him. |
| 23:35.36 | pacman87 | JeffM: the bzfsAPI wiki info is for 3.0, so i assumed the wiki would/should be consistant. |
| 23:35.46 | Winny | This isn't IM |
| 23:35.52 | JeffM | pacman87, the compiler stuff isn't finalised yet |
| 23:35.53 | Winny | you don't constantly chat up everyone |
| 23:35.57 | JeffM | also that wasn't writen by a dev |
| 23:36.00 | JeffM | so it should be redone |
| 23:36.07 | whodaman | ShadowSpectre, were not in the Fun4U chat or something |
| 23:36.09 | JeffM | and say for 3.0 to check the other docs |
| 23:36.23 | JeffM | in the API's case, the wiki is the only docs, |
| 23:36.25 | jack59splat59 | you know Jeff, you're kinda getting on my nerves |
| 23:36.36 | JeffM | for compiling we have other docs for that |
| 23:36.39 | JeffM | that ship with the source. |
| 23:36.48 | JeffM | jack59splat59, sorry to hear that. |
| 23:37.11 | JeffM | pacman87, but to build, check the readme for windows, it's udpated to what you currently need. |
| 23:37.21 | JeffM | and is the defacto docs on it |
| 23:38.25 | pacman87 | JeffM: will do, thanks |
| 23:38.45 | JeffM | what compiler will you be using? |
| 23:39.57 | pacman87 | MSVC EE 2005 |
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| 23:40.29 | JeffM | make sure you get the platform SDK and direct X from april |
| 23:40.59 | pacman87 | i dont have time to do it all right now, i'm planning on it later tonight |
| 23:41.26 | JeffM | I know, I'm just tellin ya you'll need those things, and they may take some time to download, so start em when you can ;) |
| 23:41.54 | blast007 | yeah, it's close to a GB ;) |
| 23:41.58 | blast007 | ah, that helps |
| 23:42.22 | JeffM | pacman87, yeah but MS is not |
| 23:45.07 | blast007 | JeffM: I'm pulling 1.6MB/sec from microsoft's site :P |
| 23:45.32 | blast007 | DX SDK would be about 5 minutes |
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| 23:52.22 | pacman87 | i'm getting around 900 KB/s on the DX SDK |
| 23:53.04 | Winny | I usually get 9-13mbits off a M$ server |
| 23:54.16 | pacman87 | i'll be back later |
