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| 00:31.17 | nn64 | hi |
| 00:31.28 | tannerld | hello |
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| 00:39.43 | nn64 | ryanakca, |
| 00:40.20 | ryanakca | pong |
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| 00:45.59 | Macrosoft | Winny: did you change the world wall texture in missile wars? |
| 00:47.01 | Winny | nope... |
| 00:47.27 | Macrosoft | im seeing this: http://mdk0.servegame.com/bzfi0001.png |
| 00:47.48 | Winny | fun |
| 00:48.11 | Winny | I don't see that... |
| 00:48.25 | whodaman- | heh, neither |
| 00:48.27 | Macrosoft | its not a big deal, i was just wondering if it was me |
| 00:48.32 | Winny | it's you |
| 00:48.33 | Winny | :p |
| 00:48.36 | JeffM | macrosoft's system lacks the required levels of fung shue |
| 00:48.43 | Winny | hehe |
| 00:49.45 | Macrosoft | pfft, you try managing all the cables. i should have got a supply with modular cabling :( |
| 00:50.09 | JeffM | you'd loose power |
| 00:50.24 | JeffM | it's not that hard, I'm betting our systems have similar cableing |
| 00:50.30 | JeffM | and I managed it ;) |
| 00:50.59 | Macrosoft | i just tied them to the side, and crammed the unused ends in a empty drive bay |
| 00:51.03 | blast007 | "you'd loose power" ? |
| 00:51.26 | JeffM | each modular connector costs some power in copper copper coontact loss |
| 00:51.30 | JeffM | it's small |
| 00:51.33 | blast007 | ah |
| 00:51.34 | JeffM | but can add up |
| 00:51.50 | JeffM | Macrosoft: the problem there is the word "crammed" |
| 00:52.04 | JeffM | you wrap them in flex tube |
| 00:52.05 | blast007 | I think the main thing I need to do in my case is get rid of the IDE drives |
| 00:52.10 | JeffM | or fold them flat |
| 00:52.22 | JeffM | yeah IDE sucks, best you can do is get rounded. |
| 00:52.29 | Macrosoft | JeffM: they arent blovking airflow |
| 00:52.33 | Macrosoft | *blocking |
| 00:52.40 | JeffM | but they block your fung shue |
| 00:52.44 | JeffM | HAH! |
| 00:53.34 | Macrosoft | blast007: you could roll the ribbons and put rubber bands/ zip ties on them |
| 00:53.51 | blast007 | well, the cable is too short already |
| 00:54.13 | blast007 | my case is huge (CM Stacker 830) |
| 00:54.16 | Macrosoft | blast007: you can also buy rounded ide cables :p |
| 00:54.37 | blast007 | I've never bought an IDE cable, and I don't want to start now :) |
| 00:54.53 | JeffM | then sata should be cake |
| 00:54.57 | JeffM | they flaten nicely |
| 00:54.57 | blast007 | I'd rather get a SATA replacement for the burner and the second hard drive |
| 00:55.21 | blast007 | then throw the 750GB IDE in another system |
| 00:55.31 | Macrosoft | ive still got two ide drives (hdd + optical) |
| 00:56.09 | blast007 | I don't really have any use for another IDE burner though... already have an older CD-RW drive sitting around |
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| 00:59.32 | me1 | could one make it so powerful flags like genocide wait a little while before respawning? |
| 01:00.04 | blast007 | me1: sure, you have the code |
| 01:00.07 | Macrosoft | with a mod/plugin |
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| 01:04.48 | Macrosoft | me1: another idea would be to prohibit the same player from picking up geno consecutive times (as in, someone else has to pick up geno first before the other player can use it again) |
| 01:06.01 | Macrosoft | ....most of the time, i see the same person grabbing after geno over and over |
| 01:06.43 | me1 | if only I had the programing ability |
| 01:07.21 | F687s | why couldn't you learn? |
| 01:08.26 | me1 | good question |
| 01:08.54 | blast007 | lazy |
| 01:09.47 | Constitution | yeah it's not like we were born with the ability to program |
| 01:10.05 | F687s | Anybody can write code! |
| 01:10.12 | spldart | 8-0 |
| 01:11.18 | spldart | For some people writing code is way outside their natural talents |
| 01:12.09 | spldart | You have to have a highly ordered and logical mind to do well and some aptitude to do ok.. |
| 01:12.28 | spldart | I find that artitstic minds sometimes have a terrible time with code |
| 01:12.28 | Macrosoft | F687s: yeah, but can they write _working_ code? :) |
| 01:12.32 | F687s | or just pipe slashdot through the lolcode interpreter... |
| 01:12.56 | JeffM | just like all things it depends how much effort you put into it |
| 01:14.15 | spldart | .. and your natural ability |
| 01:15.08 | JeffM | natural ability only changes the ammount of active effort |
| 01:15.25 | JeffM | it may be harder to grasp but if you put enough effort into it anyone can do it |
| 01:15.35 | JeffM | just like some people are better public speakers or readers |
| 01:15.39 | JeffM | everyone CAN do it |
| 01:16.54 | spldart | well.. we are getting off topic... I'll just say I disagree and count this up to genetic/aptitude debate |
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| 01:34.37 | a_temp_dist | any admins from 0.moooo.org:5160 here? we have a TK problem |
| 01:35.05 | whodaman- | brad, ping |
| 01:35.07 | whodaman- | ^^^ |
| 01:36.52 | a_temp_dist | screw it - badly admin'd server - not playing there |
| 01:37.00 | blast007 | wow, can't even run a poll ban.... |
| 01:37.11 | whodaman- | a_temp_dist, I've mentioned it before. |
| 01:37.19 | a_temp_dist | on my list of bad things |
| 01:37.35 | a_temp_dist | "Jack1" |
| 01:38.34 | whodaman- | botmania! |
| 01:40.06 | a_temp_dist | "trent: till the red teams shows me they are competent, then i will continue what i am doing" - fool |
| 01:40.22 | blast007 | he's going to be there a while |
| 01:40.24 | whodaman- | fun |
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| 02:38.29 | whodaman- | F687s, |
| 02:38.33 | whodaman- | oops |
| 02:38.35 | F687s | yah? |
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| 03:26.51 | whodaman- | :p |
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| 03:50.21 | Chewie[] | i'm mr. winxp64sp1, bzflag 2.10 locks up when i join certain servers (pillbox) with 100% cpu. |
| 03:50.38 | Chewie[] | is this a known issue/there a known workaround? |
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| 04:19.27 | a_meteorite | nn64, nn-server, nn-main: ping |
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| 04:57.12 | nn-server | pong |
| 04:57.17 | nn-server | or ponk |
| 04:57.24 | nn-server | lol |
| 04:57.28 | nn-server | what :) |
| 04:57.40 | nn-server | a_meteorite, im here |
| 04:57.58 | nn-server | atleast for 30 secounds |
| 04:58.45 | nn-server | ok I really need to be in bed bye talk later |
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| 05:47.32 | Winny | nn-main, nn-server, nn64: PING |
| 05:47.55 | whodaman- | Winny, he's gone to sleep |
| 05:49.14 | Winny | nn: I hear you were hosting Missile War 2.3... I'd like to remind you you need to respect map licenses. Missile War 2's can be found here: http://bzflagr.net/site/?page_id=5 |
| 05:49.53 | Winny | "Contact the map author for authorization to host Missile War 2." |
| 05:52.17 | Winny | ok? |
| 05:54.00 | JeffM | Winny: he's gone |
| 05:54.18 | Winny | JeffM: he'll read the ping when he gets up, then :) |
| 05:54.32 | whodaman- | somehow I doubt that :p |
| 05:54.38 | JeffM | unless his connection barfs in the midle of the night ( likely) |
| 05:54.55 | Winny | hmm, ok |
| 05:54.56 | JeffM | send him a PM on the boards as well if you actualy expect something |
| 05:56.59 | Winny | sent |
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| 06:18.41 | Flash | is anyone aware of an auto-banning anti-cheat detector? |
| 06:19.05 | Winny | yeah |
| 06:19.10 | Winny | it's very complex |
| 06:19.16 | Winny | it's called and admin |
| 06:19.36 | whodaman- | lol |
| 06:19.40 | Flash | that wouldn't be auto.... it's MANual |
| 06:19.48 | Flash | <for Winny> |
| 06:20.17 | Flash | anyway, I think Nightmare hacked dub |
| 06:20.27 | Winny | eh? |
| 06:20.43 | Winny | "hacked" how? |
| 06:20.47 | Chewie[] | clients can't connect or what? |
| 06:20.56 | Chewie[] | because that's what i'm hitting. |
| 06:20.59 | whodaman- | Or just cheating? |
| 06:20.59 | Flash | several people were banned |
| 06:21.08 | Flash | the first ban said "by Nightmare" |
| 06:21.10 | Chewie[] | oh. |
| 06:21.12 | Winny | ...poll bans |
| 06:21.20 | Flash | all said "anti-cheat detector ...." |
| 06:21.31 | a_meteorite | well, coogle managed to kick everyone off the server earlier |
| 06:21.40 | a_meteorite | how? I do not even want to know... |
| 06:22.01 | Flash | I'm trying to figure out how it's possible, but Nightmare is really on my nerves |
| 06:22.28 | Winny | hmm |
| 06:22.57 | Winny | do poll bans show reasons? |
| 06:23.05 | a_meteorite | no |
| 06:23.10 | Winny | hrm. |
| 06:23.34 | Winny | I thought banning was all serverisde |
| 06:23.38 | Winny | not clientside... |
| 06:23.43 | Flash | I don't know how to tell if it was polled or by admin |
| 06:23.49 | a_meteorite | it is, Winny |
| 06:24.13 | a_meteorite | then again, coogle figured out how to get the server to kick everyone besides himself and observers |
| 06:24.21 | Winny | o.O |
| 06:24.51 | Winny | I bet he faked a position update packet from the other players |
| 06:24.51 | Flash | "reason: Serverside anti-cheat protection detected som anomalities !" (sic) |
| 06:25.04 | Winny | and then they got kicked by the server |
| 06:25.13 | a_meteorite | still, how the heck would one fake packets. |
| 06:25.25 | Winny | spoofed IP? |
| 06:25.28 | a_meteorite | the server checks the source address (unless it misses it some place)... |
| 06:26.01 | Winny | he gets a list of IPs somehow, and then spoofs it in the packet |
| 06:26.08 | Thumper_ | poll bans have the person banned as the banner IIRC |
| 06:26.19 | a_meteorite | yeah. |
| 06:26.25 | Winny | but no reason |
| 06:26.32 | Flash | hmmmm |
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| 06:29.59 | Flash | The first ban was by Nightmare, second by johnMcKain, third by weathermen, fourth by A Great Player, fifth by The Traitor |
| 06:30.14 | Flash | there was a "normal" ban by quantum dot between 3 and 4 |
| 06:30.28 | Winny | hmm |
| 06:30.30 | Flash | all of them had that same reason |
| 06:30.40 | Winny | spoofing vote yes's? |
| 06:31.08 | Flash | but a_meteorite said polls don't have a reason, right? |
| 06:31.41 | Winny | that might be beatable |
| 06:31.42 | a_meteorite | all those people are cheaters.. |
| 06:31.48 | a_meteorite | how the heck are they doing this.. |
| 06:32.00 | a_meteorite | Winny: that's a thought |
| 06:32.08 | Flash | well, The Traitor came to me and said he had been banned at dub |
| 06:32.19 | Flash | so I don't think he really banned anyone |
| 06:32.24 | a_meteorite | all the more reason to only allow global login accounts to be able to vote, but they have a ton of those too |
| 06:34.12 | Winny | ick |
| 06:34.12 | blast007 | Flash: do you have a screenshot of this? |
| 06:34.14 | Winny | 1:30 |
| 06:34.22 | Flash | sure, one sec |
| 06:34.26 | Winny | cya in the "morning" |
| 06:35.00 | Flash | F5 right? |
| 06:35.14 | Winny | yeah |
| 06:35.19 | Winny | wait, this is happening now? |
| 06:35.20 | Winny | o.O |
| 06:35.31 | Flash | just tonight |
| 06:36.21 | whodaman- | fun |
| 06:36.22 | Flash | where do you want it? |
| 06:36.37 | blast007 | somewhere I can get to it :) |
| 06:40.14 | Flash | I think they changed my ISP's upload host... it will take a bit |
| 06:40.21 | Flash | can I send it directly to you? |
| 06:40.41 | whodaman- | You can just upload it to imageshack |
| 06:40.43 | whodaman- | or whatever |
| 06:43.14 | Flash | <a href="http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oddbanswv9.png" target="_blank"><img src="http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9936/oddbanswv9.th.png" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a> |
| 06:43.26 | Flash | that's lame |
| 06:43.49 | Flash | http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9936/oddbanswv9.th.png |
| 06:44.01 | Flash | no, that's too small |
| 06:44.03 | blast007 | http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oddbanswv9.png |
| 06:44.23 | Flash | right, I was getting to that... |
| 06:45.00 | a_temp_dist | perma-banned for "stop that" |
| 06:45.57 | Flash | I didn't see that.... but it could happen ;-) |
| 06:48.34 | Winny | ~dns 67.169.13.58 |
| 06:48.40 | Winny | coogle |
| 06:48.42 | Winny | o.O |
| 06:49.10 | Winny | is it possible "NightMare" was just the name some serverside plugin bans under? |
| 06:50.02 | Winny | the 84.119.*.* are cheaters IP's too. |
| 06:50.04 | Flash | all the bans were different names |
| 06:50.16 | Flash | FWIW, I'm on 67.161.* |
| 06:50.27 | Flash | not *all* comcast users are evil |
| 06:50.39 | Winny | ~dns 91.113.13.63 |
| 06:50.44 | Winny | yup |
| 06:50.50 | Winny | another cheater host. |
| 06:51.10 | Winny | Flash: Im lookaing at the .hsd1.ca.comcast.net part. |
| 06:51.39 | Winny | ~dns 75.31.105.152 |
| 06:51.48 | Winny | there's Nightmare. |
| 06:52.10 | Winny | looks like the name the ban is under is the player that is banned. |
| 06:52.24 | Flash | that was my guess when Traitor was banned |
| 06:52.47 | Winny | menotume runs dub, no? |
| 06:52.49 | Flash | so I suppose Nightmare was actually a victim??? |
| 06:53.01 | Flash | I don't know |
| 06:53.15 | Flash | Maybe pimpi |
| 06:54.52 | Pimpi | hm? |
| 06:55.37 | Winny | do you run dub? |
| 06:55.42 | Winny | the pillbox server? |
| 06:55.47 | Pimpi | yes, i do |
| 06:56.20 | Winny | do you have some anti-cheat plugin running? |
| 06:56.31 | Pimpi | yes |
| 06:56.48 | Flash | does it have a typo in it? |
| 06:57.02 | Flash | "reason: Serverside anti-cheat protection detected som anomalities !" (sic) |
| 06:57.22 | Winny | Pimpi: chances of releasing the source? :o |
| 06:57.25 | Flash | oops.... |
| 06:57.29 | Flash | "reason: Serverside anti-cheat protection detected some anomalities !" (sic) |
| 06:57.48 | Pimpi | guess so, ask catay, he wrote it |
| 06:58.10 | Winny | what does it check for? |
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| 06:58.32 | Flash | since your here, any chance of installing the "Fair CTF plugin" that allows the low team to score? |
| 06:58.35 | Pimpi | it's pretty simple though, it basicaky checks for flying, so it will only work on no jump servers |
| 06:59.09 | Winny | cool :O |
| 06:59.15 | Flash | are you sure it's working? I've seen people fly |
| 06:59.22 | Flash | until I banned them ;-) |
| 06:59.41 | Pimpi | the plugin has been installed only recently |
| 06:59.56 | Flash | hmmm. |
| 07:00.04 | Flash | I wonder if it has some bugs |
| 07:00.07 | Pimpi | i havn't seen it working, i can't play ATM |
| 07:00.27 | Pimpi | some video driver issue, that i havn't time to fix |
| 07:00.45 | Pimpi | no GL :/ |
| 07:01.03 | L4m3r | that's a fun one |
| 07:01.46 | Pimpi | starting any gl app makes X crash instantly |
| 07:01.55 | L4m3r | nice. what distro? |
| 07:02.06 | blast007 | tried reinstalling the drivers? |
| 07:02.16 | Pimpi | debian sid |
| 07:02.23 | L4m3r | ugh |
| 07:02.41 | L4m3r | I'm still using etch, because testing and unstable always break on me |
| 07:03.27 | Pimpi | blast007: yes, partially. i had to use the nvidia installer for some time since the debian packages didn't work |
| 07:03.54 | L4m3r | how does a plug-in test for flying? |
| 07:04.02 | Pimpi | sid did always nice for me. ok, i had to invest an hour now and then cleaning up, but that ok |
| 07:04.14 | L4m3r | oooh, let me guess... it checks player updates to see if they're moving upward? |
| 07:04.25 | Pimpi | yep |
| 07:04.31 | L4m3r | :) |
| 07:04.49 | Flash | what happens when you blow up? |
| 07:05.07 | L4m3r | I don't know if that shows as actual movement |
| 07:05.14 | L4m3r | at least not vertically |
| 07:05.17 | Flash | just on the client, eh? |
| 07:05.31 | Flash | mmakes sense; no need to send an update for a dead tank |
| 07:05.31 | L4m3r | and anyway, it'd be simple to make a plugin ignore dead players |
| 07:05.49 | Pimpi | i only very briefly looked over the code. if i had time to read it properly i'd fix my video driver ;) |
| 07:06.24 | Flash | well, if you check the logs, 5 or so people were apparently banned by it recently |
| 07:06.32 | Flash | for good or bad, I unbanned them |
| 07:06.52 | L4m3r | with a sufficient amount of fudging, one could make that work for jumping servers as well |
| 07:07.07 | L4m3r | male sure a player isn't *accelerating* upward |
| 07:07.36 | Flash | unless WG |
| 07:07.39 | L4m3r | mmhm |
| 07:07.54 | L4m3r | but it also depends on the frequency of updates |
| 07:08.13 | L4m3r | sudden jumps after landing could set it off |
| 07:08.18 | Pimpi | now, it seemed, that the plugin worked well. IF they were cheating the instant ban hopefully made them stop it |
| 07:08.42 | L4m3r | it'd be nice to have a generalized plugin for it |
| 07:09.03 | Pimpi | Flash: no version of fairCTF, that allows the low team to score, definately |
| 07:09.15 | Flash | we used to have it on hepcat |
| 07:09.22 | Flash | and I thought silvercat had it too |
| 07:09.24 | Pimpi | that'd be unfair |
| 07:09.36 | L4m3r | Pimpi: the original one disables CTF for both teams |
| 07:09.44 | L4m3r | in fact, it freezes the flags in place |
| 07:09.56 | Pimpi | yep, thats what i'm using |
| 07:09.57 | blast007 | Pimpi: it won't make them stop :P |
| 07:10.01 | Flash | actually, the both teams can't touch the flag is unfair |
| 07:10.05 | blast007 | just make them try harder |
| 07:10.23 | L4m3r | I felt the same way as Pimpi... rigging the game so only one team can score isn't fair |
| 07:10.32 | L4m3r | even if one is at an advantage |
| 07:10.42 | Flash | well, it *is* unfair not to be able to return your flag when you are down |
| 07:10.49 | L4m3r | nah |
| 07:10.59 | Pimpi | Flash: why would it be unfair if the flag can't be touched? |
| 07:11.03 | L4m3r | they can't take yours, and you can't take it back |
| 07:11.16 | L4m3r | the game is basically paused until it evens out again |
| 07:11.28 | Flash | you have to hold a piece of territory indefinitely until the teams even out |
| 07:11.29 | Pimpi | as soon as teams are fair you can take our flag back |
| 07:11.35 | Flash | hard to do when you are down ;-) |
| 07:12.34 | L4m3r | you don't have to hold the turf |
| 07:12.40 | L4m3r | they can't run away with your flag |
| 07:13.05 | Pimpi | see it as a chance, if the other team concentrates on your flag, theirs is badly defended ;) |
| 07:13.10 | Flash | you have to hold it so they can't get the flag when the teams even out |
| 07:13.18 | Flash | well, it's not important |
| 07:13.31 | Flash | I guess the good thing is that the server wasn't hacked |
| 07:13.47 | Pimpi | now, gtg, see ya :) |
| 07:14.00 | Flash | thanks Pimpi |
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| 07:49.47 | VatOfWine | Good morning |
| 07:50.45 | VatOfWine | Good day |
| 07:50.51 | VatOfWine | Good afternoon |
| 07:50.55 | VatOfWine | Good evening |
| 07:50.57 | VatOfWine | Good night |
| 07:51.15 | VatOfWine | Bad morning |
| 07:51.18 | VatOfWine | Bad day |
| 07:51.20 | VatOfWine | Bad afternoon |
| 07:51.23 | VatOfWine | Bad evening |
| 07:51.25 | VatOfWine | Bad night |
| 07:52.01 | VatOfWine | Normal morning |
| 07:52.04 | VatOfWine | Normal day |
| 07:52.07 | VatOfWine | Normal afternoon |
| 07:52.11 | VatOfWine | Normal evening |
| 07:52.15 | VatOfWine | Normal night |
| 07:52.47 | VatOfWine | Hello? |
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| 13:39.38 | menotume | mbo down :( |
| 13:42.16 | menotume | un-pingable |
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| 13:46.25 | Guest170 | hi |
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| 14:05.19 | I_Died_Once | anyone around? |
| 14:05.39 | I_Died_Once | trying to compile BZFlag, having a problem with SDL... |
| 14:05.51 | I_Died_Once | system can't find the SDL install... |
| 14:06.25 | I_Died_Once | yes, I have the dev packages installed... |
| 14:06.36 | I_Died_Once | as well as just abotu every other SDL add available |
| 14:07.32 | I_Died_Once | **SDL app available |
| 14:08.18 | I_Died_Once | ruskie told me to check the config.log but its a huge file with no real comprehensive info, not sure what to look for in that |
| 14:08.32 | ruskie | try searching for SDL or sdl in there |
| 14:08.37 | ruskie | or error |
| 14:12.45 | I_Died_Once | ruskie, if i pastebin my config.log would you look at it and tell where to go next ? |
| 14:13.42 | I_Died_Once | http://www.pastebin.co/853341 |
| 14:14.17 | ruskie | yup |
| 14:14.47 | I_Died_Once | http://pastebin.co/853341 |
| 14:15.24 | I_Died_Once | http://pastebin.ca/853341 - there |
| 14:15.43 | I_Died_Once | i'm not chattting from the machine in question |
| 14:18.27 | I_Died_Once | let me what to do next |
| 14:20.27 | ruskie | hmm odd... seems it's failing to find bstring.h |
| 14:21.05 | ruskie | but beyond that it seems it finds sdl related things |
| 14:21.07 | I_Died_Once | what do i install to "restore" or whatever - bstring.h ??? |
| 14:21.37 | I_Died_Once | this is a fresh debian install |
| 14:22.05 | ruskie | hmm doesn't debian have a bzflag deb ? |
| 14:22.08 | I_Died_Once | compiling bz from source, everything else installed via apt / adept |
| 14:22.12 | I_Died_Once | not a 2.0.10 |
| 14:22.18 | I_Died_Once | wish someone would make one |
| 14:22.21 | ruskie | did you install the bzflag build deps? |
| 14:22.26 | I_Died_Once | t'would be awesome |
| 14:22.37 | I_Died_Once | yeah, I got everything installed |
| 14:22.50 | I_Died_Once | got way more SDL apps than I need trying to resolves this |
| 14:23.21 | I_Died_Once | thats what it tell me at the end of configure, cant find SDL |
| 14:23.30 | I_Died_Once | also in the confiure script too |
| 14:24.06 | ruskie | hmm it's not bstring.h stuff |
| 14:26.03 | ruskie | ahh found something relevant |
| 14:26.12 | ruskie | http://paste.sarcelle.net/index.php?id=416076cd9d <-- here's the error |
| 14:26.23 | ruskie | it segfaults while trying to build the test app for sdl |
| 14:27.40 | I_Died_Once | how do i remedy this? |
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| 14:28.13 | ruskie | no clue |
| 14:28.20 | ruskie | it might be something weird with your system |
| 14:28.44 | I_Died_Once | this system also crashed kcontrol when i go to set up a screensaver |
| 14:28.49 | I_Died_Once | every time |
| 14:29.17 | I_Died_Once | I always have odd and rare issues with my linux's |
| 14:30.53 | ruskie | I used to have such as well |
| 14:31.05 | ruskie | until I switched to sane distros like slackware and such... |
| 14:31.38 | ruskie | and of course along the way upgraded the hardware... |
| 14:31.41 | I_Died_Once | but i dont want to self compile EVERYTHING |
| 14:31.52 | ruskie | though I had 0 issues for over 3 years now... |
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| 14:33.38 | I_Died_Once | i really like debian a lot better than other distros out that i've tried |
| 14:34.04 | I_Died_Once | i would go slack, but like i said, compiling everything manually would be a beotch |
| 14:34.18 | ruskie | arch ? crux? |
| 14:34.31 | ruskie | anything that actually doesn't split and mix and match packages like debian does? |
| 14:35.27 | Miranda-fr | is the bzflag server down ? |
| 14:35.34 | ruskie | it's up |
| 14:35.37 | ruskie | but global seems to be down |
| 14:35.49 | Miranda-fr | ok |
| 14:38.58 | I_Died_Once | fuggit, i'm going to compile sdl myself |
| 14:39.07 | I_Died_Once | I'll let you guys know wheni shoot my computer |
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| 14:46.10 | I_Died_Once | what the option to tell bzflag where the sdl stuff is ???? |
| 14:46.21 | I_Died_Once | like the prefix for sdl ??? |
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| 14:57.33 | Mxed | stty erase |
| 14:58.14 | Mxed | stty erase <press backspace><enter> |
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| 15:09.08 | Winny | ick |
| 15:09.11 | Winny | server crash |
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| 15:20.37 | Winny | are there any known ways fora player to make BZFS segfault? |
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| 15:20.50 | Winny | trying to figure out why the server just randomly shut off |
| 15:23.09 | Winny | ~dns portal.sagonet.com |
| 15:24.59 | catay | Winny: on linux? |
| 15:25.24 | blast007 | datacenter issue |
| 15:25.49 | Winny | I bet that's why meno said this: <meno> mbo down :( |
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| 15:26.02 | Winny | considering MBO and my server are in the same datacenter |
| 15:27.37 | catay | oh nvm, I read it as your bzfs was segfaulting randomly :p |
| 15:27.49 | Winny | :E |
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| 15:34.12 | brlcad | wtf |
| 15:34.37 | blast007 | brlcad: the server went down, as did Winny's server |
| 15:34.51 | blast007 | for about an hour and 15 minutes his was down |
| 15:35.02 | Winny | oh my god |
| 15:35.05 | Winny | the lag is horrible |
| 15:35.08 | Winny | everyone has 5% |
| 15:35.24 | Winny | to make it even better, the online support for sagonet is down.. :/ |
| 15:36.06 | brlcad | hm |
| 15:36.48 | Winny | brlcad: can you get to "portal.sagonet.com"? |
| 15:37.55 | blast007 | "The connection was reset" |
| 15:38.10 | brlcad | the machine is up, but no web server on it |
| 15:38.51 | Winny | fun |
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| 15:41.48 | brlcad | there was nothing graceful about the shutdown, seems it apparently lost power |
| 15:43.11 | blast007 | well, the cleaning guy had to plug in the vacuum somewhere! |
| 15:43.12 | brlcad | Winny: what is your IP? |
| 15:43.33 | brlcad | or at least one of them |
| 15:43.47 | Winny | we have two.. 66.111.38.151 and .150 |
| 15:43.55 | Winny | oh, didn't see your last line. |
| 15:44.51 | Winny | portal's up |
| 15:45.36 | brlcad | probably just how long it takes it to reboot |
| 15:45.56 | brlcad | well you're not in the same rack as .bz it would seem |
| 15:46.25 | brlcad | three hops to get to yours |
| 15:49.40 | brlcad | looks like my other sago box lost power too |
| 15:50.18 | Winny | fun stuff :/ |
| 15:52.34 | brlcad | apparently it was a big outage across the board |
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| 15:52.36 | brlcad | http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=794398b4d69d2e278d37e45689cc7123&t=663195 |
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| 15:53.21 | brlcad | first time that's happened.. alas |
| 15:53.33 | jujibo | brlcad: what happened to bzflag.bz? |
| 15:53.56 | Winny | wow |
| 15:54.28 | AHA | my.bzflag.bz works fine |
| 15:54.28 | brlcad | there's another thread that preceeds that one |
| 15:54.40 | AHA | just the front page i guess |
| 15:54.41 | brlcad | AHA, it's all back on-line now |
| 15:55.11 | brlcad | jujibo: the entire ISP had a major power failure of some sort |
| 15:55.28 | jujibo | ah, it says time to live exceeded :) |
| 15:55.49 | brlcad | which is pretty surprising, they have several massive gas generators and battery backup systems |
| 15:56.03 | jujibo | heh |
| 15:56.16 | brlcad | so maybe they lost power and exceeded the backups too, seeing how it was several hours |
| 15:56.30 | jujibo | brlcad: so I guess half Maryland is calling you now, no? :) |
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| 15:57.02 | brlcad | a little too early in the morning and a weekend .. :) |
| 15:57.09 | jujibo | hehe |
| 15:57.10 | brlcad | fortunately |
| 16:02.22 | menotume | i'll post his number in the appropraite forum :) |
| 16:02.36 | Winny | hehe |
| 16:04.11 | jujibo | menotume: isn't this forum appropriate? :) |
| 16:04.13 | brlcad | heh |
| 16:04.57 | jujibo | how good are the computers and internet while working fine :) |
| 16:24.36 | Winny | hm.. at least the lag is going down |
| 16:34.19 | Winny | the lag /lagstats reports is UDP, correct? |
| 16:36.41 | Winny | not that it matters, I suppose I could just tell them pinging the server shows 7% loss |
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| 16:51.46 | edini | does secretplace still work? |
| 16:52.11 | Winny | we gave junker SSH on the fairserve server to host it, and it crashed. |
| 16:57.09 | Winny | brlcad: is your server having loss issues? |
| 16:57.12 | Winny | s/server/servers |
| 17:01.01 | Pimpi | Winny: loks like high system load |
| 17:01.10 | Pimpi | s/loks/looks |
| 17:01.39 | Winny | Pimpi: as in, the server or the network? |
| 17:01.52 | Pimpi | server |
| 17:02.36 | Winny | nope... barely running 10% CPU usage |
| 17:02.52 | Pimpi | so, which one are you talking about? |
| 17:03.05 | Pimpi | the one i can see has high peaks |
| 17:03.11 | Winny | bzflagr.net |
| 17:03.31 | Pimpi | then i'm talking of another one |
| 17:03.38 | Winny | http://stats.fairserve.net/graph.php?action=view&local_graph_id=5&rra_id=all |
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| 17:34.40 | brlcad | Winny: no |
| 17:34.49 | Winny | hmm |
| 17:35.13 | Winny | guess it's a routting issue to our rack or something |
| 17:37.00 | brlcad | or just intermittent |
| 17:37.35 | brlcad | given the full isp went down, I wouldn't be surprised if there were restart issues -- would wait a few hours more |
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| 17:42.12 | uso | Winny: you know cacti has sql injection vulnerabilities? be careful as you have it publicly accessible |
| 17:42.25 | Winny | Constitution, ^ |
| 17:42.40 | uso | oh, the he ;) |
| 17:42.48 | uso | http://www.webappsec.org/projects/whid/byid_id_2007-82.shtml |
| 17:42.55 | Winny | yeah, I just bumble around on the srver |
| 17:42.59 | Constitution | thanks |
| 17:43.19 | Winny | might wanna make it un-public again ;) |
| 17:43.25 | uso | it may be fixed meanwhile, but better check it |
| 17:43.33 | whodaman- | Winny, it doesn't have much use that way |
| 17:43.42 | Winny | yes it does |
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| 18:23.26 | ryanakca | hm... why would we want thief to be able to get CL, but laser can't get it? They're both lasers in my mind, except that one kills, and the other steals? |
| 18:25.10 | me1 | well laser is light, thief is an extend-able arm that takes that little flag thing off of someone else's tank |
| 18:25.15 | Manu | ryanakca: TH is not a laser |
| 18:26.03 | ryanakca | lol :) |
| 18:26.09 | ryanakca | Okies then :) |
| 18:27.22 | me1 | could you theif your own flag with rico? |
| 18:27.56 | Manu | no effect :) |
| 18:28.13 | me1 | aww |
| 18:28.23 | Winny | hehe |
| 18:28.28 | Manu | if you steal your own flag, you recover it too ;) |
| 18:28.43 | ryanakca | lol :) |
| 18:32.21 | ruskie | so? |
| 18:32.24 | ruskie | it would still be fun |
| 18:32.40 | me1 | finaly someone sees my point! |
| 18:33.01 | Manu | ruskie: funny is to drop your TH flag while trying it ;) |
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| 18:33.51 | ruskie | bingo :) |
| 18:34.00 | ruskie | should be able to shot self easily :) |
| 18:34.16 | ruskie | though it's nice to rico steal the flag from the guy behind you |
| 18:34.27 | Manu | ruskie: you can do it |
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| 19:37.50 | Winny | editing PHP sure is fun when you don't know what it does |
| 19:39.17 | brad | ##php can help! |
| 19:39.29 | Winny | heh |
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| 19:57.30 | ryanakca | is there anyway to see the team balance, who's on what team, and who has what flag in bzadmin? |
| 20:03.59 | delusional_ | it's pretty limited. but people have modified bzadmin in many ways that are not included in the distribution package. |
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| 20:15.40 | ryanakca | delusional_: any plan to merge those changes into the main branch / trunk? |
| 20:16.32 | delusional_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:17.22 | delusional_ | you could ask around or check the forums, many people have modded bzadmin |
| 20:17.33 | delusional_ | for their own purposes |
| 20:18.34 | a_meteorite | modifying bzadmin is not the optimal way to do many things that nn is doing (I'm assuming that's who you're speaking for) |
| 20:18.47 | a_meteorite | plus it won't work for 3.0 |
| 20:18.59 | blast007 | sure it would |
| 20:19.03 | delusional_ | ...I was about to mention meteorite |
| 20:19.13 | blast007 | you can just make bzadmin not report itself as such |
| 20:19.14 | delusional_ | ..and blast007 |
| 20:19.22 | a_meteorite | blast007: someone said bzadmin in 3.0 does not get player states |
| 20:19.29 | a_meteorite | Jeff, I think did |
| 20:19.36 | blast007 | right, because it tells the server it doesn't want them |
| 20:19.40 | a_meteorite | oh |
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| 20:35.32 | whodaman- | nn-main, nn-server ping |
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| 20:45.14 | lendusaquid | whats udp ? |
| 20:45.46 | whodaman- | #bzchat :) |
| 20:46.14 | delusional_ | let me guess.. you can't join your favorite server because "no UDP"? |
| 20:46.21 | lendusaquid | yes |
| 20:46.43 | whodaman- | Oh, lol, I thought you meant "whats up?" |
| 20:46.45 | Winny | hehe |
| 20:46.49 | delusional_ | there are two network protocols that bzflag uses TCP and UDP.. yuu need both |
| 20:46.50 | lendusaquid | :) |
| 20:46.52 | whodaman- | Nevermind, sorry |
| 20:47.11 | lendusaquid | so what do i do ? |
| 20:47.25 | Winny | did this just only start happening |
| 20:47.27 | delusional_ | enable UDP connections |
| 20:47.28 | Winny | and what server is it? |
| 20:47.44 | lendusaquid | yes it was the first warning |
| 20:47.51 | Winny | what server? |
| 20:48.01 | lendusaquid | dunno |
| 20:48.09 | Winny | ... |
| 20:48.42 | lendusaquid | missile war 2.3 |
| 20:49.22 | lendusaquid | where do i enable UDP |
| 20:49.32 | Winny | ahhhh |
| 20:49.41 | Winny | Our server is having extreme issues today.. |
| 20:49.45 | Winny | probably not your fault |
| 20:49.47 | lendusaquid | o lol |
| 20:50.09 | lendusaquid | got another problem as well |
| 20:50.29 | ryanakca | a_meteorite: umm... why would I be speaking for nn? Also, since modifying bzadmin is not the optimal way to do whatever, do you have a low ressource, CLI app to suggest I could use to supervise my server? |
| 20:50.33 | lendusaquid | i was banned from a server when i have done no wrong |
| 20:50.57 | Winny | lendusaquid: take that up with the server owner |
| 20:50.59 | delusional_ | message the server owner and plead your case, |
| 20:51.01 | Winny | we can't control their bans |
| 20:51.07 | a_meteorite | ryanakca: because you work with him, and nn made a modified bzadmin |
| 20:51.12 | lendusaquid | tried to but got no answer |
| 20:51.19 | Winny | who is it? |
| 20:51.23 | ryanakca | a_meteorite: ah :) |
| 20:51.25 | whodaman- | lendusaquid, is it MW ? :p |
| 20:51.52 | Winny | hehe |
| 20:52.07 | lendusaquid | got banned by DenverD on 2 castles |
| 20:52.20 | a_meteorite | lendusaquid: take it up with him on the boards |
| 20:52.21 | whodaman- | Pimpi, ^^^ |
| 20:52.41 | tannerld | *on the boards via PM |
| 20:52.51 | lendusaquid | well i sent private message but got no reply yet |
| 20:53.38 | lendusaquid | and its my favorite map :( |
| 20:53.42 | a_meteorite | he probably doesn't sit around the clock on the computer.. |
| 20:53.53 | ryanakca | lol :) |
| 20:53.53 | whodaman- | a_meteorite, yeah, only we do :) |
| 20:54.05 | Macrosoft | :( |
| 20:54.06 | lendusaquid | drat, he has a life :( |
| 20:54.58 | lendusaquid | o well thanks for you time |
| 20:55.11 | lendusaquid | bye |
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| 21:29.17 | Winny | my god, I can't even SSH into the server anymore |
| 21:29.32 | whodaman- | I can :p |
| 21:30.10 | tannerld | heh |
| 21:30.50 | Winny | they better replace that NIC soon |
| 21:33.41 | Winny | whee... |
| 21:33.53 | whodaman- | Winny, was that intentional? |
| 21:33.57 | Winny | yep |
| 21:34.05 | Winny | hoping rebooting will fix the loss |
| 21:34.05 | whodaman- | thanks for the warning... |
| 21:34.12 | Winny | :) |
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| 22:13.38 | whodaman- | ~karma AAA_awright |
| 22:13.38 | ibot | aaa_awright has karma of 26 |
| 22:16.28 | a_meteorite | ~karma a_meteorite |
| 22:16.28 | ibot | a_meteorite has karma of 40 |
| 22:16.51 | whodaman- | ~karma whodaman- |
| 22:16.51 | ibot | whodaman- has karma of 6 |
| 22:16.58 | whodaman- | :/ |
| 22:26.37 | pacman87 | ~karma pacman87 |
| 22:26.37 | ibot | pacman87 has neutral karma |
| 22:26.42 | pacman87 | i win |
| 22:27.17 | a_meteorite | No, CBG wins |
| 22:27.20 | a_meteorite | ~karma CBG |
| 22:27.20 | ibot | cbg has karma of -440 |
| 22:27.32 | pacman87 | lol |
| 22:28.15 | Macrosoft | ~karma |
| 22:28.15 | ibot | macrosoft has karma of -1 |
| 22:28.27 | Macrosoft | yay, second place! |
| 22:30.22 | a_meteorite | ~karma JeffM |
| 22:30.22 | ibot | jeffm has karma of 49 |
| 22:30.34 | a_meteorite | Oh, I thought one of the devs had really high negative karma... |
| 22:30.43 | whodaman- | I think that's just CBG |
| 22:30.48 | whodaman- | ~karma CBG |
| 22:30.48 | ibot | cbg has karma of -440 |
| 22:30.55 | a_meteorite | ~karma brlcad |
| 22:30.55 | ibot | brlcad has karma of 1 |
| 22:30.57 | whodaman- | sweet :) |
| 22:31.00 | Winny | #botpark |
| 22:31.17 | whodaman- | Winny, ibot isn't there :) |
| 22:31.22 | Winny | then PM him |
| 22:31.58 | Macrosoft | whodaman-: ibot is 'purl' in botpark |
| 22:38.36 | CBG | I am one of the devs... |
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| 23:29.28 | hwilde | so was the list server offline earlier or was it just my connection |
| 23:29.35 | Winny | which server? |
| 23:30.00 | Pimpi | whodaman-: gings um die Sache mit lendusaquid? |
| 23:30.31 | whodaman- | Pimpi, ja, er wurde gebannt und wusste nicht wieso |
| 23:31.14 | hwilde | Winny, the list server |
| 23:31.18 | Constitution | hwilde: yes, the list server was down earlier |
| 23:31.26 | Winny | like 10 hours ago |
| 23:31.32 | hwilde | thus earlier |
| 23:31.53 | whodaman- | lol |
| 23:31.59 | hwilde | thanks Con. come play so I can shoot you |
| 23:32.06 | Pimpi | whodaman-: denverd meint er haette durch ausloggen einen capture verhindern wollen, und ich denke damit hatter er auch recht |
| 23:32.08 | Constitution | :) |
| 23:33.01 | whodaman- | Pimpi, ja, kein ding, ich wollts nur an dich weiterleiten |
| 23:33.09 | Pimpi | danke :) |
| 23:33.12 | whodaman- | falls er nochmal hier auftaucht sag ichs ihm |
| 23:33.33 | hwilde | all this foreign talk is making me hungry |
| 23:33.45 | whodaman- | german ftw. |
| 23:34.10 | Pimpi | whodaman-: wird eigentlich der hix server auf dub noch benutzt? |
| 23:34.13 | hwilde | wo das schnitzel ist |
| 23:34.27 | hwilde | Ich wünsche einige Kartoffelpfannkuchen |
| 23:34.33 | whodaman- | lol |
| 23:34.34 | Pimpi | hwilde: vielleicht noch im schwein... |
| 23:34.43 | hwilde | hey don't look at me blame babelfish |
| 23:35.17 | hwilde | How do you say bratwurst in german |
| 23:35.23 | whodaman- | Pimpi, eigentlich nicht mehr so, die meist benutzten euro. HiX server sind bzf, von uso |
| 23:35.24 | hwilde | and Spaten Munchen |
| 23:35.38 | whodaman- | Pimpi, war da auch ein match server? |
| 23:36.04 | Pimpi | glaub schon, hab selbst ein wenig den Überblick verloren |
| 23:36.12 | whodaman- | hehehee |
| 23:36.27 | whodaman- | Ja, ich hab den lange nicht mehr gesehen |
| 23:37.52 | Pimpi | der dingsen aus Oldenburg, dessen Name mir gerade entfallen ist wollte da irgendwas mit logging haben, fällt mir bei der Gelegenheit gerade wieder ein... |
| 23:38.43 | whodaman- | Pimpi, ich hab leider auf keine ahnung wer das ist... |
| 23:38.56 | Pimpi | eier von den GU-Leuten |
| 23:39.05 | whodaman- | LongDon ? |
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| 23:39.11 | Pimpi | ja, genau |
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| 23:39.15 | whodaman- | Aso |
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| 23:39.35 | whodaman- | Pimpi, der hat ja auch seine eigene server... |
| 23:39.35 | Pimpi | GU lief irgendwo im Keller der Uni Oldenburg |
| 23:39.50 | Pimpi | oder gibts das noch? |
| 23:40.17 | whodaman- | Der hat auf jeden fall noch einen match und replay server der oft benutzt wird |
| 23:40.53 | whodaman- | Ich wei? aber nicht wo sein server ist |
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| 23:53.07 | Macrosoft | potato pancakes? |
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| 23:55.32 | Chewie[] | doesn't sound bad. |
| 23:55.46 | Chewie[] | i've had 7up mashed potatoes, which actually was half-ass decent. |
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