IRC log for #bzflag on 20080109

00:07.06nn-mainhi ryanakca
00:07.18ryanakcahey nn-main
00:07.29ryanakcayou'll probably want to ping JeffM :)
00:07.32F687sin the BZFlag svn list server, there is an "J F R L" before the server name.
00:07.37F687swhat does the L stand for?
00:07.40JeffMryanakca, he knows
00:07.48ryanakcaokies
00:08.12WinnyF687s: Jumping Flags Rico and.. uhm..
00:08.45F687sI would think Low Gravity, but that isn't entirely correct
00:08.57WinnyLoveability? :p
00:09.31F687sL is disabled on all of the currently running servers, though
00:10.04WinnyL*
00:10.09ryanakcaany comments in the source code? not that we all have a copy of that with us... hmmm... *shrugs*
00:10.28WinnyI think you're seeing things, F687s?
00:10.30JeffMwhat source code?
00:10.53F687sthe 2.99.x svn
00:11.23ryanakcaJeffM: I'm guessing that you could find out what the "L" is in the svn's list viewer by looking at the source for a comment
00:11.37nn-mainryanakca, we have been talking for a while
00:15.38Winnyany idea if the OGL problems were ever fixed in 10.5?
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00:34.59F687sno, L still there...
00:37.34ErroneousL is the ping time indicator
00:38.22ryanakcaErroneous: ah :)
00:38.30Erroneoushit p with a server selected to try it
00:41.05F687swhat do the colors mean?
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00:42.50F687salso, what variable do you set to change the field of view?
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00:49.48F687snever mind...
00:57.44nn-mainhi guys
00:57.53Winnyuh hi
00:59.07WinnyJeffM: by the way, that FOV mod you made isn't saved by the conf, for some reason
00:59.13nn-maini have cindive acted like an idiot here and I'm sory JeFFM, showed a lot of things Im going to slow down and listen more and take more advice
01:00.53nn-mainThere are a lot of bugs with my setup and i would like some help fixing some of them if you are willing to help me
01:02.07F687sI'd be willing to help.
01:02.26nn-mainthe bzadmin program I made needs to be made into a pach and some how comited to the resp.
01:02.38nn-mainI am really new to svn
01:02.49nn-mainhow do I go about it
01:02.59F687soh, that setup.
01:03.14Winnyhehe
01:04.23Winnywarm*
01:04.33WinnyI don't think you want to keep worms
01:04.45L4m3rhm... is anything bad likely to happen if I use the same config directories for bzflag under two OSes?
01:04.47nn-mainback
01:05.03nn-mainoups lol
01:06.24nn-mainso what is the comand to make the patch ?
01:06.40Winnysvn diff, IIRC.
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01:08.33nn-maini think it needs a litte more than svn diff   is there some web address thing or directory to diff or do you have to be in the directory you want to difff
01:09.19nn-mainryanakca, my server now has its own irc
01:09.33Winnytyping "svn help diff" gives some info
01:10.14AHAnn-main: http://subversion.tigris.org/ would be a good place to start
01:10.25nn-mainthanks AHA
01:10.54ryanakcalol :)
01:11.06Winny~ping
01:11.07ibotpong
01:11.10Winnyhmm.
01:11.20F687s~pong
01:11.21ibotPING!
01:11.32ryanakcann-main: you'll probably want to up / merge before making the patch...
01:11.40ryanakcasvn gurus, correct me if I'm wrong :)
01:12.45nn-mainF687s, it looks like the bot hit its self
01:15.01F687sreally?
01:15.03F687s~die
01:15.04ibotACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless.
01:15.13nn-mainlol
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01:20.10Winnynn-main: you might wanna set a lower playerlimit on your map(s)
01:20.18Winnyhaving 30 people on cable is not fun
01:22.14nn-mainits onily when i get to 37 things start to lag
01:22.35Winnyheh
01:22.53L4m3rsomeone earlier complained you were lagging with 9
01:23.14Winnyyou have like 30 across 2 servers now.. most people have 4%+ ... just pointing it out
01:24.08nn-mainok I aught to start donations or somthing to setup a secound net connection lol :)
01:24.32Winnyplease look into a dedicatd server
01:24.36Winnyyou would befit from it
01:24.39nn-mainok
01:24.40Winnybenefit*
01:30.02awilcoxJeffM: Maybe you will pong here?
01:30.37Winnyawilcox: most of us did
01:30.47JeffMhuh?
01:30.50awilcoxI wasn't here for a bit, what happened?
01:31.13awilcoxJeffM: I pinged you in another channel and thought you might see my ping if I went here.
01:31.14JeffMsorry was shooing a 4 year old
01:31.18awilcox:p
01:31.21F687scheese fell from the sky.
01:31.40awilcoxJeffM: I need help with trying to find a computer chassis (meaning case), if you aren't too busy.
01:34.24JeffMshooting not shooing :)
01:38.31F687sJeffM: what server?
01:38.42JeffMthe real life one
01:38.59JeffMlocalhost, aka outside the cube wall
01:39.22F687show bad was it?
01:39.58Erroneousnerf darts ftw
01:43.26Winnyhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/01/05/usb-missile-launcher-adopts-webcam-for-geeky-wars-over-msn/
01:43.47F687sthey improved it?
01:44.10L4m3rheh
01:44.23L4m3rpeople have been sticking webcams on those since they first came out. mine has one.
01:44.32L4m3rnow they just come pre-attached :P
01:44.45F687sI've seen the original, and I want one..
01:44.54JeffMthe pord is quite adept at the nerf weaponry now
01:45.03L4m3rit was on woot for $20
01:45.31F687sprobably sold out within the first hour, though
01:45.47L4m3rI don't remember, it was a long time ago
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02:18.40nn-mainYes I fixed it. I'm still hosting the same amount of maps just the library maps are way far down the list form the users maps giving the affect that im hosting less
02:25.35Winnyoh goodie, no more 536 userbin servers?
02:26.58JeffMthat was actualy a mistake on his system
02:27.02JeffMnot an intended action
02:27.46Winnygoodie
02:27.53Winnythat they aren't up*
02:28.42JeffMthey were not actualy up for very long
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02:29.48Winnynn-main: I can probably give you some help on the weekend with mapchange, if you need it
02:32.33nn-mainok cool map change for inactive lib map servers
02:34.40nn-mainick refaze
02:34.58nn-mainmap change on 1000 maps using one server on the list
02:35.19a_temp_worknn-main, look at bzflag.planet-mofo.com:4040  - I have 1400 maps on that one server
02:35.22AHAnn-main: yes
02:35.25AHAthere is
02:35.42AHAnn-main: look here for more information: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=9903
02:36.04nn-mainSweet cool thanks bye dad is going to be mad if i don't get off now
02:36.11AHAheh
02:36.11AHAcu
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03:27.54Crapolahi
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03:28.20Crapolahi
03:28.56Crapola1Anyone like crayons
03:29.05Crapola1Can anybody hear me
03:29.12Crapola1Am I audible now?
03:29.18Crapola1What about now? am I audible?
03:29.23Crapola1Are these words appearing on your screens? Hello?
03:29.28Crapola1Something must be broken
03:29.33Crapola1Something must be broken somewhere in the loop
03:29.38Crapola1Which thing is a shame
03:29.45Crapola1'tis a shame, for I consider this the paramount free open-source computer game
03:29.52Crapola1The people who constitute its community are such high-caliber individuals, all
03:29.57Crapola1Above all, this impresses me
03:30.02Crapola1Nary an immature or dim-witted character may be found amongst its ranks
03:30.07Crapola1'tis comprised solely of the best
03:30.11Crapola1And't pleases me knowing this, each time I play the game
03:30.17Crapola1't pleases me to know I've the company of such great men
03:30.21Crapola1Such inspiring people
03:30.31Crapola1Such a thing is a considerable rarity in the realm of online games
03:30.52spldartIB... UUHHHH!!!
03:31.07CrapolaI beg your pardon?
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03:31.50CrapolaWould someone kindly respond should they see my words? for I am testing
03:32.03CrapolaTesting and besting
03:32.07CrapolaBesting and testing
03:32.35CrapolaSay you not nothing save nary a word should cross thy screen!
03:32.46CrapolaNary a word of mine I mean
03:33.42CrapolaI do plead with you earnestly: ignore me not
03:34.42CrapolaMy entreaties are wholly in vain, I fear
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03:35.45CrapolaI'd'nt know if I'd be answered even should my words appear
03:35.59CrapolaHi Jeff!
03:36.18CrapolaSir Jeffrey Myers, I am honored by your noble presence
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03:36.37*** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@c-76-105-5-93.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] by JeffM2501
03:36.44*** kick/#bzflag [Crapola!n=Jeff@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501)
03:37.10Winny\o/
03:37.13Think_Differentl:D
03:37.26JeffM2501if that is what it takes to excite you, your life is sad
03:38.02Winnyhe's just bored
03:38.22JeffM2501I meant you ;)
03:38.55WinnyI actually didn't say anything ;p
03:39.13JeffM2501you \o/ed when he left ;)
03:39.30Winnyhehe
03:39.37Winnyok, next time I shall :'(
03:39.38JeffM2501DTRemenak: bucher block!!!
03:41.20DTRemenakheh.  another friend of mine got to me first, I'm scheduled for the Ebony Citadel of Mallyx today :)
03:41.20JeffM2501joo suxorz
03:41.23DTRemenak:)
03:43.33Winnyyou scared away blast007's nokia!
03:45.31CBGshouldda got an iphone
03:45.40Winnyhehe
03:47.00a_meteoriteLaptop too!
03:47.09Winnyerr
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04:16.44Macrosofti miss anything important?
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04:26.23TheRedBaronthe cake is a lie :(
04:32.58CBGNo it isn't.
04:33.10CBGIt's real, delicious and moist.
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07:40.41L4m3r~lart Manu
07:40.41ibotslaps Manu upside the head with a wet fish
07:40.43L4m3r:P
07:41.16Manu~kiss L4m3r
07:41.17ibotACTION forces L4m3r to give blast007 a big kiss on the ear
07:41.36blast007~lart Manu
07:41.36iboteats Manu and falls over dead
07:41.49L4m3ryay, two for the price of one :P
07:42.01Manu~blast blast007
07:42.02ibotACTION pulls her blaster and uses blast007 for target practice
07:42.26blast007lucky for me, ibot can't aim very well
07:42.33blast007thus the need for practice
07:42.56Manu~nuke blast007
07:42.57ibotlook, cheeeeese!
07:42.58Manuheh
07:43.18blast007~nuke Manu
07:43.18ibotACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at Manu ... B☢☢M!
07:43.18L4m3ro_O
07:43.31L4m3r~nuke blast007
07:43.32ibotlook, cheeeeese!
07:43.34L4m3r:o
07:43.37a_meteoritelol!
07:43.40a_meteorite~literal nuke
07:43.41ibot"nuke" is "<reply>Cockroach. I win."
07:43.47blast007heh..
07:43.50a_meteoriteuh
07:43.52Manu~kiss blast007
07:43.52ibotACTION forces blast007 to give rtfm a big kiss on the hand
07:44.00L4m3rlol!
07:44.02blast007kissing my own ear?
07:44.04a_meteoritehahaha
07:44.05L4m3rthat's not so bad
07:44.16a_meteoriteibot is rigged
07:44.29a_meteorite~kiss blast007
07:44.29ibotACTION forces blast007 to give hachiya a big kiss on the lips
07:44.34a_meteoritedarnit..
07:44.43blast007~literal cmd: nuke (*.?)
07:44.55blast007~literal cmd: nuke (.*?)
07:44.55ibot"cmd: nuke (.*?)" is "($goozbach): <action>  prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at $goozbach ... B☢☢M!"
07:45.46purple_cow#botpark
07:47.31ManuL4m3r: BTW, what are you doing awake yet? :)
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18:17.17brlcad~tupone++
18:18.28brlcadyay, de.bzflag.bz is now up and running nicely -- thanks to tupone's efforts
18:19.20whodaman-bad link?
18:19.39brlcadit's not a link
18:19.41brlcadit's a server :P
18:19.54brlcadand not running a web server
18:19.58brlcad(yet)
18:20.10whodaman-lol
18:20.14JeffMDroning on and on
18:20.14JeffMTalking about the atom
18:20.14JeffMWhat an awful Bohr.
18:20.22brlcad~ping de.bzflag.bz
18:20.23ibotpong de.bzflag.bz
18:20.44JeffMwhat ye plan on doing with yon box good sir?
18:21.10TheRedBaronthis channel operates on PST time
18:21.44JeffMwhy is it that the first responce to that that comes to mind was ,"like your mom"?
18:22.01whodaman-LOL
18:22.03TheRedBaronJeffM: because you sir have a dirty mind?
18:22.13whodaman-TheRedBaron, beat me too it ;)
18:22.18JeffMwhat's dirty about her working on PST?
18:22.26JeffMmaybe her job requires that
18:22.34JeffMmaybe she's an accounts manager or something
18:22.46brlcadJeffM: first mirroring most of the sites/services/setup on .bz, then getting list server replication working
18:23.06JeffMsweet
18:23.28brlcadgetting the setup mirrored will take a few days in itself
18:23.33Constitutionshould be fun getting that to work
18:24.23JeffMConstitution, has nn contacted you about taking you up on your offer to help him set up map rotation?
18:25.20whodaman-~Constitution++
18:25.31ConstitutionJeffM: no
18:25.34JeffMk
18:25.37Constitutionbut iirc you deleted the post with that offer
18:25.38JeffMhe's suposed to
18:25.43JeffMno I did not :)
18:25.44TheRedBaronJeffM: sounds like guilty justification ;)
18:25.48JeffMI deleted those around it
18:26.04JeffMand I TOLD him last night
18:26.08JeffMso we'll see
18:26.10Constitutionok
18:27.26JeffMhe barely has controll over his network and his computers, I fear he's an abbuse waiting to happen
18:28.06JeffMthat combined with his imaturity, and conditional controll/ownership of the comptuers may cause issues
18:29.30L4m3rI'm surprised no one has pwned his box yet
18:29.46JeffMwho says it hasn't
18:29.51L4m3rtrue
18:30.02L4m3rer, well, s/box/boxen/
18:30.09L4m3rthere are 3 of 4 iirc
18:30.16JeffMI mean honestly the simplest way to show him that he's in over his head, is to just get 30 or 40 people and just go USE his servers
18:30.21JeffMthat will flood him out right quick
18:30.28TheRedBaroni'm ready :)
18:31.35ConstitutionI missed the fun yesterday... I heard he was up to like 600 servers?
18:31.46JeffMyeah
18:31.49whodaman-Yea
18:31.55JeffMsome sort os script malfunction
18:32.13JeffMthat's why I say he dosn't have controll over his network
18:32.19L4m3rI think that was bs
18:32.24JeffMcould be
18:32.24L4m3rhe was "testing"
18:32.26JeffMwe'll find out
18:32.45JeffMbut we don't have a hard limit on server qunatity
18:33.02L4m3r...probably testing our tolerance more than his own script
18:33.05JeffMif he gets blocked it'll be because he's not mature enough to use the services with out causing problems for other people
18:34.15brlcadheh, awesome .. a truely barebones install .. no emacs, no vim, no vi, not even ed :-)
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18:41.25L4m3rbrlcad: how about nano? :P
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18:42.42brlcadhow about nono
18:42.50L4m3rheh
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18:57.24Constitutionsb end
18:57.37Constitutiongrr
18:58.03donny_bakerhave never heard of that editor :P is it good Constitution
18:58.18Constitutionno, it sucks :P
19:28.51Thumper_donny_baker: its emacs IIRC
19:30.53L4m3rwoo, SlingPlayer in WINE :P
19:32.28brlcaddonny_baker: emacs
19:33.14Thumper_\o/
19:33.23brlcadI'm fine with vi/vim for some quick edits, but I much rather prefer emacs for any heavy lifting
19:34.02Thumper_brlcad: did you try org-mode yet?  :)
19:34.39brlcada long time ago, or at least something similar to it
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19:35.21brlcadi already have a pretty effective note/todo/task/plan system that I use
19:35.31Thumper_http://orgmode.org/ (in case you want to look at it again)
19:36.28brlcadyeah, that looks like what I used for a while
19:36.40Thumper_use what works :) org-mode is the best thing I've found so far
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20:05.23TheRedBaronvi
20:06.00L4m3r...if someone wants to stick a cork in it
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20:08.40Constitutionbrlcad: are we still releasing a 2.0.10 Mac Binary?
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20:10.02whodaman-I got a staffer to come, L4m3r
20:10.05whodaman-problem solved
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20:24.16nn64hi all
20:24.22whodaman-Hi
20:25.08nn64I finally got the maps library started; here is the address; maps.bzfmaps.net
20:25.28nn64http://maps.bzfmaps.net
20:25.52JeffM2501you shoudl turn that into a host on demand service
20:27.22nn64yes I'm going to give bzfmaps.net admin to Constitution as soon as he is around
20:27.37JeffM2501he's been around
20:27.49JeffM2501but you never sent him a PM on the boards like you said you were going to
20:28.38nn64JeffM2501, Since he's here I might as well decuss it here
20:28.52JeffM2501that wasn't what I said
20:28.58JeffM2501you said you would do something
20:28.59JeffM2501you didn't
20:30.15JeffM2501and step one, ASK him if he'll help you with what you want, rather then just assuming he will and blindly turing over "admin" to him
20:30.39nn64Because I haven't had time yet; dad told me i had to get off last night and I'm still finishing school
20:30.53JeffM2501remember what I said about us not caring about your personal life?
20:30.56JeffM2501that still goes
20:31.55JeffM2501I kick puppies in my off hours ;)
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20:48.02JeffM2501well by that I realy mean play everquest
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21:10.00jftsanghi
21:10.21F687sY HALO THAR
21:14.45F687show come you can bump up onto a box, but not bump up onto a meshbox? because they are different?
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21:15.24JeffM2501yes
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21:15.44F687sso, in that respect, I'm assuming you cannot bump up onto a mesh, either
21:15.50JeffM2501yes
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21:17.07F687sstrange...
21:17.40JeffM2501why is that strange
21:17.48JeffM2501it's a bug with the collision code on meshes
21:19.26F687sso, if you apply textures to a box, and it up-converts it to a meshbox, I assume that won't work either.
21:19.37F687s(it being the server)
21:19.41JeffM2501yes
21:19.50JeffM2501the only thing that can have a material is a mesh
21:20.03JeffM2501as far as the client is concerned
21:24.45brlcadahh, gentoo can be so pleasant to set up when everything's working right (which it is)
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23:09.44nn64ok map change server started as I take down each library map a new map change map will show up under the map change server working on taking the rest down later tonight ;;;; its time to eat so bbl
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