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00:14.57 | wizart | Hi, You might know about that already, but jut for the record: |
00:14.58 | wizart | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. |
00:14.59 | wizart | [Switching to Thread -1231090800 (LWP 30937)] |
00:14.59 | wizart | audioInnerLoop () at sound.cxx:838 |
00:14.59 | wizart | 838 fsampleR = (1.0f - fracR) * src[nmR] + fracR * src[nmR+1]; |
00:14.59 | wizart | (gdb) where |
00:15.00 | wizart | #0 audioInnerLoop () at sound.cxx:838 |
00:15.04 | wizart | Cannot access memory at address 0xb69f031c |
00:15.43 | wizart | this happens on the new bzhockes server after a few minutes |
00:16.59 | wizart | Audio driver is dsp. |
00:17.51 | wizart | Could it have something to do with me deleting a few audio files ? |
00:18.01 | Gnurdux | yes, it coukd |
00:19.02 | wizart | ok :) |
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01:47.14 | Constitution | ~whodaman-++ |
02:31.57 | Macrosoft | a bit OT but cool: http://kvince83.tengun.net/maxboard/viewtopic.php?t=2573&start=0 |
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18:51.57 | JeffM | anyone ever hear of/use the e107 CMS? |
18:53.42 | scott | yet another php cms? |
18:54.57 | JeffM | it and drupall were rated rather highly |
18:55.21 | scott | no, never heard of it before |
18:55.29 | scott | but i've heard of drupal |
18:55.45 | scott | looks nice enough |
18:57.16 | scott | "For real-time help and friendly chat please join #e107 on the Freenode Network" |
18:57.18 | scott | :) |
19:07.00 | JeffM | Winny, who was the hosting company you went with? |
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19:10.48 | scott | JeffM: check out linode.com |
19:14.00 | JeffM | virtual servers? |
19:14.21 | JeffM | I am looking for a real box |
19:15.03 | scott | yeah, but they are stable as fsck |
19:15.11 | scott | i've had mine for 4 years |
19:15.22 | JeffM | so are real machiens :) |
19:15.27 | scott | :) |
19:15.30 | JeffM | the bandwith and ram for those is realy low |
19:15.43 | scott | the transfer limit |
19:15.44 | JeffM | and the proices arn't that much better then a real machine |
19:15.50 | JeffM | yeah it's realy low |
19:16.42 | JeffM | 80$ for onl7 800gigs of transfer |
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19:16.51 | JeffM | I can get a lot more for a lot less |
19:18.41 | scott | you expect more traffic than that? :) |
19:18.47 | JeffM | yes |
19:18.51 | scott | insane |
19:20.31 | JeffM | not really |
19:20.50 | blast007 | scott: I'm paying $74 for 1000GB of bandwidth and a real server |
19:20.50 | JeffM | lots of media transfers, backup list server probably, bzfs servers, etc... |
19:21.04 | JeffM | blast007, who's that thru? |
19:21.08 | blast007 | JeffM: xlhost |
19:21.37 | blast007 | their support isn't as experience as I had hoped, but I haven't had to contact them much either |
19:21.45 | blast007 | that's my main complaint about it |
19:21.52 | blast007 | other than that, it's been pretty good |
19:22.07 | blast007 | few network issues (DDoS attacks) |
19:22.12 | JeffM | yeah they are my baseline |
19:24.02 | scott | haha |
19:24.18 | scott | Username: Password: [Reset Server] |
19:24.24 | blast007 | scott: yes? |
19:24.31 | scott | i just find that funny |
19:24.32 | blast007 | that's for the remote server reset |
19:24.41 | scott | k |
19:24.44 | blast007 | in case a system locks up |
19:24.48 | scott | nod |
19:24.55 | blast007 | I pay a little extra for that just in case |
19:25.06 | blast007 | otherwise my bill would only be $69/month |
19:25.11 | scott | can you get console access? |
19:25.29 | blast007 | console access? meaning KVM-IP? |
19:25.34 | blast007 | or do you mean SSH? |
19:25.50 | scott | well, yeah kvm.. |
19:26.18 | blast007 | KVM is an extra $40/month |
19:26.20 | blast007 | so no |
19:26.24 | scott | oof |
19:26.33 | donny_baker | JeffM: i think winny went with sagonet |
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19:27.53 | blast007 | sagonet has some specials right now too, through the 17th |
19:28.03 | blast007 | "Free 100Mbps port" |
19:29.05 | nn-main | hi all they did update my bandwith Yay! |
19:29.09 | nn-main | Download Speed: 23058 kbps (2882.3 KB/sec transfer rate) |
19:29.10 | nn-main | Upload Speed: 1389 kbps (173.6 KB/sec transfer rate) |
19:29.23 | blast007 | nn-main: cool |
19:29.42 | nn-main | on http i got a max of 203KB/s!!!!! |
19:31.38 | scott | sago looks good |
19:34.44 | blast007 | hmm, I get more for my money at xlhost though |
19:35.32 | blast007 | I have a Celeron D 2.53GHz, 1GB RAM, 80GB drive, 10mbps port w/ 1TB/month |
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19:35.49 | blast007 | at sago, they have half the RAM at a higher price |
19:36.02 | blast007 | slightly slower CPU too |
19:36.05 | scott | serverpronto has dedis for $30 |
19:36.42 | nn-main | well I give out my servers for free |
19:37.02 | scott | ok, i'll take 2 |
19:37.04 | blast007 | nn-main: wasn't talking to you |
19:37.16 | blast007 | nn-main: we were discussing some hosting providers with Jeff |
19:37.52 | blast007 | scott: the $30 ones only have 200GB/month |
19:38.04 | scott | nod |
19:38.15 | scott | $8.95 to go 1000 |
19:38.23 | scott | but you have to wonder at that price... |
19:38.53 | nn-main | i gave as much as possible i have full band of ..... as long is it can be used lol :) |
19:39.03 | blast007 | RAM maxes out at 512MB on the order form for the $30 one |
19:39.14 | scott | yeah |
19:39.15 | blast007 | extra $75 setup fee for that |
19:40.09 | nn-main | lol i let ahs3 install his own system and kernal in the server i gave him root access 2 |
19:40.30 | L4m3r | well that was brilliant of you, nn-main |
19:43.00 | nn-main | lol i put in a gentoo install cd then gave him ssh to it :) |
19:43.15 | nn-main | lol i dont expect others to do that though |
19:43.42 | L4m3r | if Jeff needed a dedicated box on a crappy connection, he could just set up a spare one at home |
19:43.42 | nn-main | scott: i might be able to give you one ??? |
19:43.49 | scott | nm |
19:43.57 | nn-main | lol verry funy |
19:44.10 | nn-main | im on a bisness lign |
19:44.13 | blast007 | lol ok |
19:44.23 | nn-main | line* |
19:44.43 | blast007 | and soon you'll have as much upstream as a T1 |
19:45.10 | nn-main | well if i don't switch to fiber first |
19:45.44 | nn-main | i can get 2Mbits up when its needed |
19:46.20 | nn-main | on the line im on the onily reason it was lower is the speed test uses one mass file |
19:46.39 | L4m3r | or because the line is shared with your whole block |
19:46.43 | nn-main | not a tun of small connections |
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19:47.16 | nn-main | lol well all the other people on my streem are on rcn lol |
19:47.35 | nn-main | i looked at the lines :) |
19:49.55 | nn-main | im on comcast |
19:50.26 | brlcad | eh, comcast business lines are exceptionally expensive |
19:50.45 | Winny | JeffM: sagonet, their cheapest |
19:50.46 | nn-main | Yes but there Relible and Really Fast |
19:50.47 | brlcad | and if it's not a business line, then you can be screwed at their discretion |
19:50.49 | Winny | been pretty nice so far |
19:51.02 | L4m3r | they are not "really fast" |
19:51.10 | blast007 | downstream maybe |
19:51.16 | brlcad | no more reliable than any other isp |
19:51.18 | L4m3r | 2mbps upstream is pretty mediocre for serving much of anything |
19:51.34 | brlcad | especially what they charge for it on the business lines |
19:52.00 | L4m3r | I'd buy DSL over comcast |
19:52.30 | L4m3r | my dad is about ready to switch... his connection is horribly unreliable and he's just starting to realize how much the cable and broadband are costing him |
19:53.26 | nn-main | well im locked in a contract ...... sooooo .... im going to switch when i can |
19:53.43 | blast007 | nn-main: how long until that contract runs out? |
19:55.02 | nn-main | ? that is what i want to find out probably 1 or 2 years |
19:55.05 | nn-main | max |
19:55.22 | nn-main | :( |
19:55.50 | nn-main | owell atlest there upping the band with to keep up with compition |
19:55.51 | L4m3r | serves you right... |
19:57.37 | nn-main | well the people i server pay nothing !!!! And i know even if i doin't have the best band in the wold. you probably couldent beet the fact that im literly giving out machienes to users for free |
19:58.07 | Winny | the people you server? |
19:58.21 | nn-main | ahs3 has his own server with me |
19:58.24 | L4m3r | I think he meant "the people I sever" |
19:58.29 | L4m3r | it's comcast after all |
19:58.38 | donny_baker | nn-main: you are giving people individual machines or virtual hosts? |
19:58.52 | donny_baker | nor all on one box |
19:58.56 | nn-main | depends |
19:59.04 | nn-main | i have one machiene |
19:59.17 | nn-main | given out |
19:59.24 | nn-main | planning a secount |
19:59.35 | L4m3r | it doesn't matter, really. the connection is the bottleneck |
19:59.40 | Winny | mhmm |
19:59.40 | nn-main | for a master hoster / mapper who wants one |
19:59.51 | donny_baker | yeah, i was thinking about security between users :P |
19:59.57 | blast007 | what security? |
19:59.58 | Winny | you'd probably need a 20+mbit connection to really need more then one comp |
20:00.15 | blast007 | yeah, my Pentium 133 could max out his upstream |
20:00.18 | nn-main | im also been giving out ssh but i decided i need more info on the user so im not lible |
20:00.25 | nn-main | address and phone |
20:00.40 | L4m3r | you'd still be liable. it's your connection. |
20:00.58 | L4m3r | or rather, your parents would be liable |
20:01.52 | donny_baker | list server problems? |
20:02.01 | L4m3r | in reality, nn, your connection would be good for one or two bzflag servers |
20:02.06 | donny_baker | never mind |
20:02.13 | nn-main | ahs3 is helping me with that |
20:02.17 | Winny | probably a max of 20 players too |
20:02.23 | L4m3r | as in, 2 instances of bzfs. |
20:02.26 | L4m3r | on one box |
20:02.31 | nn-main | y so ... im lucky if i get 10 |
20:02.33 | donny_baker | i'ld say 30 players.. thats about what I get on my T1 |
20:02.59 | donny_baker | only takes one popular map |
20:03.02 | nn-main | more of a testing server |
20:03.19 | nn-main | if they get huge i will mostlikly send them to you winny |
20:03.33 | Winny | heh |
20:03.36 | L4m3r | anyone can run a testing server, and most people can run a simple home server with a sane player limit |
20:03.43 | Winny | more people then my have servers |
20:04.00 | blast007 | than me* |
20:04.07 | L4m3r | you get crap because you offer to host everyone and don't put logical player limits on your games. |
20:04.26 | nn-main | o well i give what i give and people use it so im content :) |
20:04.57 | Winny | blast007: working on math, talking on phone, and doing IRC, cut me a break :p |
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20:06.06 | nn-main | Winny: im still banned form your servers? |
20:06.11 | Winny | uh |
20:06.14 | Winny | shouldn't be |
20:06.18 | blast007 | idban? |
20:06.27 | Winny | thought I only did a hostban |
20:06.30 | Winny | which I removed |
20:06.33 | nn-main | dorny_baker |
20:06.40 | Winny | donny_baker* |
20:06.48 | nn-main | is the perosn who baned me |
20:07.07 | nn-main | avertizing which im not doing any more |
20:07.27 | donny_baker | Winny: i banned comcastbussiness |
20:07.46 | Winny | dorny_backer: I unbanned it a couple days ago |
20:08.00 | L4m3r | backer? lol |
20:09.03 | Winny | should be gone now |
20:09.04 | Winny | I think |
20:09.22 | nn-main | thanks |
20:10.41 | nn-main | that plugin hack thing is that a good one ?? the one where the plugin passes players data inbetween to hosts? |
20:11.09 | Winny | uh |
20:11.20 | nn-main | it may be a rumer |
20:11.38 | blast007 | what? |
20:11.41 | Winny | rumour*? |
20:11.43 | donny_baker | leethegreat's chat relay thing? |
20:12.01 | donny_baker | only if both servers are consenting is it a great thing |
20:12.09 | nn-main | maby? although i thought it did platers to? |
20:12.14 | blast007 | no |
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20:12.18 | donny_baker | with leethegreat, they generally aren't |
20:12.26 | Winny | "platers"? |
20:12.29 | Winny | players? |
20:12.36 | blast007 | Winny: hard drives, keep up! |
20:12.44 | Winny | blast007, of course! |
20:13.08 | donny_baker | nhe has been banned from 3 server networks that i know of for putting it on their servers without prmission |
20:13.18 | donny_baker | and then not taking it down when asked |
20:14.31 | donny_baker | and if you are talking about that forums topic... that is a dream |
20:14.45 | donny_baker | there is no real information in it |
20:14.56 | donny_baker | all hypothetical |
20:15.17 | blast007 | the one about server-to-server teleports? |
20:15.33 | donny_baker | yeah... thats the one i am refering to |
20:15.36 | blast007 | I don't see that ever happening |
20:15.42 | donny_baker | me either |
20:16.02 | blast007 | if anything, I'd see one server that could run multiple 'zones' in a map, and have teleporters redirect between zones |
20:16.20 | blast007 | would help divide up the player updates, since you only need updates from players in your zone |
20:16.33 | blast007 | and would get around the issue of a reconnection delay |
20:16.44 | nn-main | welllll irc accomplished it .... why can bzflag |
20:16.56 | blast007 | nn-main: why haven't you written it yet? |
20:17.03 | blast007 | don't have time? |
20:17.14 | blast007 | neither do we |
20:17.19 | nn-main | ok |
20:17.45 | donny_baker | bzflag is a game.. chat is secondary, especially BETWEEN servers |
20:17.46 | nn-main | i don't know enofugh yet to try .... maby in a fiew years |
20:17.51 | blast007 | though I would probably enjoy trying to do something like that |
20:18.04 | blast007 | (my ideal concept, not the reconnect-to-a-different-server one) |
20:19.08 | nn-main | well split up data in between 2 servers than have the server compress the data inbetween the two hosts |
20:19.30 | donny_baker | ??? |
20:20.05 | Winny | thats a crapload of lag |
20:20.17 | nn-main | clients --> host one <---compress---> host 2 <------ clients |
20:20.34 | nn-main | oh |
20:20.35 | Winny | whats the point dude? |
20:20.54 | nn-main | my cp messed up message |
20:21.01 | Winny | any server that you rent from a datacenter can easily support 3+ servers |
20:21.21 | Winny | I imgaine a p4 3.0ghz with 1gb of RAM could probably run all the top servers on the list |
20:21.34 | nn-main | :( |
20:21.50 | nn-main | i feel small but keep my ground |
20:21.53 | nn-main | :-D |
20:22.50 | blast007 | a Pentium II could run a good amount of players :P |
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20:23.00 | blast007 | bzfs really doesn't eat up much of any CPU |
20:23.03 | nn-main | i use p3's |
20:23.18 | nn-main | correct bzfs dosent |
20:23.36 | nn-main | it just uses internet band with |
20:23.37 | blast007 | nn-main: I used to run a server on a Pentium 133Mhz with 48MB of RAM |
20:24.00 | nn-main | lol i try to use 256M to 712M ram |
20:24.03 | blast007 | was only 6 players though, cuz my upstream was like 200kbps |
20:24.09 | nn-main | on my hosts |
20:24.18 | blast007 | but even with all 6, it never used much CPU |
20:24.49 | nn-main | any one want to help me test my version of badjerking _----> Testing 3 team ctf ---> userbin.net |
20:24.56 | Winny | uh |
20:25.03 | Winny | You better ask badgerking if you can host his map |
20:25.19 | Winny | people don't take kindly to modding -- their maps without their permission. |
20:25.20 | nn-main | point taken |
20:25.40 | Winny | err, remove the "--", I never finished my thought. |
20:25.41 | blast007 | sometimes don't even take kindly to used an unmodified map |
20:26.03 | nn-main | im just testing it for a day ??? you know how i can reach him |
20:26.07 | nn-main | ? |
20:26.19 | nn-main | contact him? |
20:26.21 | blast007 | uh, the forum? yeah, maybe the forum |
20:26.36 | nn-main | kk |
20:31.13 | Winny | ~hapbir whodaman- |
20:31.14 | ibot | ACTION sings a variant of Happy Birthday (to avoid royalty fees) to whodaman- |
20:31.25 | whodaman- | :D |
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21:25.14 | JeffM | L4m3r, if I wanted a dedecated server on a crapy connection I'd set one up here at work ;) |
21:25.44 | JeffM | nn-main, and yes I am looking for profesional level hosting |
21:26.25 | JeffM | server pronto dosn't look too bad, not a huge drive, but I probalby won't use more then 40 gigs |
21:26.54 | JeffM | and they do have a setup fee |
21:27.34 | nn-main | JeffM: ? |
21:27.37 | ruskie | superb-servers ? |
21:28.29 | JeffM | nn-main, re: your comments on the home hosting that your doing |
21:29.09 | Winny | JeffM: we got the cheapest deal from sagonet, but they ended up giving us a better server |
21:29.21 | JeffM | ahh |
21:29.36 | JeffM | I looked at that "volume drive" thing, they seem shady |
21:29.42 | Winny | mhmm |
21:29.46 | JeffM | no mention of bandiwth |
21:30.37 | JeffM | 50$ for the celly isn't bad |
21:31.30 | JeffM | tho for 19$ a month more, can get a faster system with more ram, and more IPs thru xlhost |
21:31.48 | Winny | you can get free IPs |
21:31.57 | Winny | you just need to have a reason for then |
21:31.58 | JeffM | don't realy need IPs |
21:32.05 | JeffM | the ram would be the big kicker |
21:32.07 | Winny | them* |
21:32.49 | JeffM | sagonet seem nice if you don't need much cus you can get cheaper then xlhost |
21:32.55 | JeffM | they have a cheaper minimum package |
21:33.33 | Constitution | cheap was the primary concern for us |
21:33.35 | JeffM | as soon as you get off that baseline tho xlhost has better value |
21:33.45 | JeffM | 90$ for a core2 |
21:33.47 | nn-main | humm maby they should change the channel form #bzflag to #server-price-decussion |
21:34.15 | JeffM | this is somewhat related to bzflag hosting ;) |
21:34.24 | JeffM | as it would host bzfs servers |
21:34.33 | Winny | indeed |
21:34.34 | JeffM | and could posibly be a backup list server |
21:34.54 | JeffM | since yon Erroneous/ DTRemenak would have the roots ;) |
21:35.02 | JeffM | would depend where they are |
21:35.13 | JeffM | I don't think we'll need THAT many list nodes |
21:35.28 | JeffM | US, europe, asia may be good enough |
21:35.47 | JeffM | Winny, do you know where they are? |
21:35.57 | Winny | sagonet? |
21:36.01 | JeffM | yes |
21:36.05 | Winny | They're in Miami and Atlanta, IIRC |
21:36.11 | JeffM | k |
21:36.18 | JeffM | similar to where the current server is |
21:36.36 | Winny | isn't the current listserver hosted on sagonet as well..? |
21:36.45 | Constitution | ~dns bz.bzflag.bz |
21:36.46 | JeffM | dunno |
21:36.51 | Winny | I thought yep |
21:36.51 | Constitution | ~dns server1.fairserve.net |
21:36.55 | Winny | saognet |
21:36.57 | JeffM | ahh |
21:37.11 | nn-main | ~dns bzfmaps.net |
21:37.29 | Winny | ~dns 74.94.43.197 |
21:37.34 | nn-main | ? |
21:37.54 | nn-main | lol do i have to call them to fix that |
21:38.00 | Winny | uh |
21:38.00 | JeffM | the ISP |
21:38.01 | Winny | fix what? |
21:38.08 | Constitution | doubt they'll change that for you |
21:38.12 | JeffM | yeah |
21:38.12 | nn-main | that reverse resolve |
21:38.12 | Constitution | do you even have a static IP? |
21:38.19 | nn-main | yep |
21:38.21 | nn-main | thats it |
21:38.23 | JeffM | who's your dns? |
21:38.26 | nn-main | or one of them |
21:38.35 | nn-main | regestar.com |
21:38.38 | JeffM | that'd be why |
21:38.50 | nn-main | why? |
21:38.50 | JeffM | you need them to change the DNS at the ISP |
21:38.57 | JeffM | cus that's the way it works |
21:39.03 | nn-main | oh !!!!! |
21:39.06 | nn-main | ok |
21:39.22 | JeffM | havent' read up on DNS in your studies yet? |
21:39.31 | nn-main | lol nope |
21:39.43 | nn-main | dns is really complicated |
21:39.46 | JeffM | that should probably be one of your first topics |
21:39.48 | JeffM | not really |
21:40.25 | nn-main | i have loked into running one but not how multiple hosts work passing dns data |
21:40.36 | JeffM | it's a system not just one server |
21:41.00 | nn-main | y i know that lol |
21:41.02 | JeffM | reverse DNS can't go to your dns server, because it dosn't know what DNS server resolves for that IP |
21:41.17 | nn-main | ok |
21:41.37 | JeffM | with all the money your sinking into this I'd think you take the education a bit more seriously. |
21:42.28 | nn-main | Areally anoing that the bzflag client isnt 2 player split screen compatible like arm agerton |
21:42.34 | nn-main | armagetron* |
21:43.02 | JeffM | ummm ok |
21:43.11 | JeffM | it's a network game |
21:43.14 | JeffM | always has been |
21:43.21 | JeffM | not a single player game |
21:44.09 | nn-main | i want to play agenst my brother on the same cp because all the other cps dont have a good graphics card. we have to joysticks the problem is bzflag dosent support 2 player |
21:44.25 | JeffM | bzflag can not do all things that all people want |
21:44.30 | JeffM | it is not that type of game |
21:44.37 | Winny | dude, can you please type properly? even "comp" is better then "cp" ... |
21:45.27 | nn-main | ok sory |
21:46.03 | donny_baker | sorry* |
21:46.52 | JeffM | your statement is sort of like you saying that your annoyed that your car dosn't drive more like a motorcycle. |
21:50.49 | A_Heart_Attack | Does anyone know how to run an irc bot on windows using smartIRC? |
21:51.33 | Winny | A_Heart_Attack: surely the smartIRC has some docs on it? |
21:52.00 | A_Heart_Attack | Yes. I have made the bot, but im not entirely sure how to run it |
21:55.48 | donny_baker | A_Heart_Attack: how about asking in #smartirc? |
21:56.06 | A_Heart_Attack | That would make sense. :) |
21:56.10 | donny_baker | :) |
21:56.11 | Winny | heh |
22:01.06 | Tupone | nn-main: have you tried running 2 instances of bzflag windowed, with energy saving? on? |
22:01.55 | Tupone | well, I imagine that config.cfg need a lot of tweak |
22:02.12 | Tupone | maybe with 2 users if it is linux |
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22:02.27 | Tupone | hmm very hard |
22:02.44 | Tupone | :) |
22:02.50 | Tupone | forget it |
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