IRC log for #bzflag on 20071117

00:00.15Macrosoftlike what?
00:00.47TuponeNormally you should have a written error, sometime it cannot recognize the mouse, but you should have the log
00:02.23Macrosoftill try it again and pipe the output to a file this time
00:02.40Macrosoftbrb
00:02.41Tuponeoutput is 2
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00:19.40Macrosofterr... how do you redirect text output? i tried X -config /root/xorg.conf.new >> /Xtest.txt
00:19.54Macrosoftdid i do something wrong?
00:21.39Constitutionthat should do it, assuming you have write perms to /
00:21.46Constitutiontry
00:21.54Macrosoftyeah, was logged in as root
00:22.11ConstitutionX -config /root/xorg.conf.new > /Xtest.txt 2>&1
00:22.35Macrosoftwhat is that 2>&1 part?
00:22.49Constitutionredirects STDERR to STDOUT
00:23.11Macrosoftok, brb
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00:42.53CIA-MIAlibirc: 03JeffM2501 * r336 10/trunk/libirc/botlib/ (inc/botlib.h src/botlib.cpp):
00:42.53CIA-MIAlibirc: get the botlib to connect and join channels
00:42.54CIA-MIAlibirc: stub out the major event callbacks.
00:43.26Winnydonny_baker: ping
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01:27.36brlcadword is getting around, CIA-MIA is up to 41 projects in 6 channels
01:28.27Winny:o
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01:49.43a_meteoriteCIA-MIA?
01:50.35Winnythe replacement for CIA-Numb
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02:03.17spldartWell.. Sweeet!!! I discovered the worst memory leak EVAR!
02:03.32spldartDon't sweat it though.. it's not BZ related
02:03.59Winnyspldart: firefox?
02:04.30AAA_Awrightspldart: Hm?
02:06.13spldartNewest ver of DVDShrink... It ramps up to 2+ Gig in 45 seconds then CRASH... :mad:
02:06.57Macrosoftspldart: it must think you are doing illegal stuffs with it ;)
02:07.19spldartNot I said the fly
02:07.55spldartI'll find my way around it though ;-)
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02:11.17spldartMacro... get 3D goin?
02:16.57spldartbrb
02:17.21Macrosoftspldart: nope, giving up for now
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02:23.58Winnyis it possible to bind BZAdmin to a IP address, if you have more then one?
02:24.11Winny(more then one IP address)
02:24.25Saturosping brlcad
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02:33.57JeffMdid the last one have the version in it Saturos ?
02:34.30SaturosYes, but you never used it, JeffM.
02:34.36JeffMahhhh
02:34.40SaturosInstead somebody took an old wallpaper. :)
02:34.52JeffMdo you have a new one that you'd like to have used?
02:36.11SaturosNot so far - I decided to ask if theres a need.
02:36.36JeffMit'll take brlcad a while (days I'd guess ) to get the DMG done
02:36.45JeffMand we can always use what we have
02:36.59JeffMbut if you got something I'm sure we can look at using it
02:37.49SaturosOkay, that sounds good. Thanks.
02:40.36brlcadplanning on making it tomorrow
02:40.43brlcaddo you have a link for it?
02:41.47SaturosI dont have set a single pixel by now.. but I could arrange something tomorrow.
02:41.59JeffMbrlcad, did we not use the one with text for tranlation issues?
02:43.00brlcadSaturos: okay, I won't post without ya, just lemme know when you've got something ready :)
02:43.29brlcadand put a designed by on it this time, I will have to again :)
02:43.39Saturosheh
02:43.52brlcadJeffM: with text?
02:43.55SaturosI'll try to make one tomorrow.
02:44.16brlcadit usually tells them what to do ("drag this to your apps dir")
02:45.39SaturosIs there a fixed position for the bzflag.app? Like bottom left corner?
02:45.41SaturosOr can you place it freely?
02:47.37brlcadit defaults to the top-left, a bit oversized, so that's usually the easiest to work with
02:53.40SaturosHmm... when I made one I could drag it around like I wanted. How are you doing the dmg? Are you using any special programs or just disc-utility?
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03:23.00inchworm~botsnack
03:23.00ibotthanks, inchworm
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03:58.34spldartAbsolutely LOVE rabbit chase on hix
03:58.53spldartbrad.bz
04:03.19eTangenTsee, I keep telling you guys that brad is a genius.
04:12.35spldartDid you need something from brad?
04:12.36spldarthehehe
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05:01.13thatquestion: about how long should compiling the source for 2.0.10 take? (i have an imac g5 2.0Mhz 512mb ram)
05:02.28JeffMhow long has it been going on?
05:02.38thatabout 15 min so far...
05:02.43mbfgtoo long
05:02.55mbfgaltho the memory you have is on the smallish side
05:03.01JeffMcommand line or in x code?
05:03.07thatcommand line
05:03.28JeffMdoes it show it doing file after file?
05:03.34JeffMor is it stoped?
05:03.44thatits still making files
05:03.50JeffMthen it's going
05:04.02JeffMis your disk access light thrashing?
05:04.16thatheh, there is no disk light for imacs
05:04.24thatbut its not thrashing
05:04.40JeffMthen you probably just have a slow computer
05:04.57thatheh, now it ran into an error on the macplatformfactory.lo file
05:05.13JeffMand the error is?
05:05.53that"cannot allocate an object of type 'MacWindow' because the following virtual functions are abstract:
05:06.02that../../../include/BzfWindow.h:50: error:         virtual void
05:06.04JeffMwhat version of OSX do you have?
05:06.09that10.4
05:06.10JeffMoh and you probably don't have SDL
05:06.18JeffMdid you install the SDL framework and the dev libs?
05:06.23thatno
05:06.28JeffMthen you need to do that
05:07.20thatwhere do i get that?
05:07.29JeffMlibsdl.org
05:07.44JeffMwhat version of bzflag are you trying to build?
05:09.01that2.0.10
05:09.10thatdo i have to rerun autogen.sh now?
05:09.17JeffMno
05:09.24JeffMyou'll have to configure again
05:09.29JeffMso it'll get detected
05:09.45JeffMwe have a binary of the 2.0.10RC3
05:09.52JeffMit's functionaly the same
05:09.57JeffMif you don't want to build it
05:09.58thati know, i have that... :)
05:10.19JeffMgood luck then
05:10.25thatthx
05:11.30thatone more thing.... when i try to use subversion to download the source of 2.1, it keeps telling me that svn is not a command.
05:11.45JeffMdo you have svn installed?
05:12.06thatdoesnt mac already have the command line program for that?
05:12.11JeffMno
05:12.15thatoh
05:15.18mbfgwould seem unlikely
05:19.57JeffMspend 150$ and find out
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05:23.14spldartPOOP... I thought I was better than that... I only hold my own on badger.fielder :(
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05:26.45QuantumBeepWhere do I find the release notes for the various BZ versions?
05:28.41QuantumBeepdoh, found it
05:28.51thatafter compiling, where do i find the actual openable application?
05:29.49rob1n|afksrc/bzflag/bzflag etc
05:29.50a_meteoriteif you didn't do make install, src/bzflag/bzflag
05:29.52rob1n|afki believe
05:29.59spldartit is then
05:30.00spldarthehe
05:30.03spldartnighty night
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05:33.48JeffMthat: the command line does not make a .app
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05:33.59JeffMyou have to copy the executable into a .app
05:34.02JeffMwith all the resources
05:34.10JeffMor run from xcode and it'll build the app for you
05:34.25thati know, i was just wondering where i opened the thing... and xcode is confusing to me :)
05:34.27JeffMOSX release builds are not automated or trivial
05:40.06thatheh, you hit the main page news on sourceforge...
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06:25.22noybis there a tutorial or howto for building it with xcode?   That would be fun.
06:25.42Constitutionnoyb: press "build" :)
06:25.47blast007load the project, hit a button
06:25.47noybnice
06:25.53blast007then pray
06:25.56noybheh
06:26.24noybum, click and hold?                                                                                                           ;-)
06:26.32noybclick and release?
06:26.41noybdouble click it?
06:26.56noybsheesh, this macos building software stuff is too hard.  :-)
06:28.56JeffMthe hard part is geting all the libs you need
06:29.57Constitutionto pay the arm-and-leg purchase cost?
06:31.12noybJeffM: I remember that from several years ago when brlcad helped me build it.  there's some abstraction for 3D or something, no?
06:31.20JeffMno
06:31.29JeffMbut you do need SDL
06:31.37noybyes, that's what I meant.
06:31.46JeffMSDL draws no 3d
06:32.18noybhere's where I cash-in my "or something" ...   :-)
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07:09.18CIA-MIAlibirc: 03JeffM2501 * r338 10/trunk/libirc/botlib/vc8/ (botlib.sln botlib.vcproj): VC8 project for the botlib
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12:30.28Cobra_Fastserver.links-clan.net:5155 <- there i wait
12:33.54Cobra_Fastanyone here?
12:38.22ruskiestop spaming :)
12:40.36Cobra_Fasti just want someone to play with :/
12:44.57Cobra_Fastso if someone want, just join server.links-clan.net:5155
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13:10.20Saturosping brlcad
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13:15.02brlcadSaturos: pong
13:15.15Saturosbrlcad: I sadly have no time to do a completely new thing, but since you never used my old 2.0.6-image we could as well take that one.
13:15.17Saturoshttp://saturos.de/s/512x384.jpg
13:15.49brlcadhehe
13:16.06Saturos:p
13:16.09brlcad:)
13:16.11brlcadlooks good
13:16.21Saturosstrayer suggested to put it as a reflection in one of the tanks
13:17.44SaturosProblem is: I dont know if theres room for the .app and a /Applictions/ link. When I made the image I intended the .app to be in bottom right corner and no link. Maybe they fit both in the corner.. I dont know.
13:18.29brlcadyeah, probably not
13:18.36brlcadgood enough to just put the icon
13:22.13SaturosI think people will find their apps folder by themselves anyways
13:22.37SaturosI never use those links.. always put it on the desktop to try if its worth keeping first.
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13:57.31donny_bakerWinny: pong
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18:13.40spldartWhat causes jumpy in optical mouse.. I've tried 3 different brands with two different pads and occasionaly when steering my tank it does a quick jump or not responsive and then takes off in the direction I'm trying to go.... needless to say that may mean DEAD
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18:17.29jftsanghi
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18:36.52whodaman-ts: Yes, The dmg worked fine for me too, just the other build was buggy
18:38.44Winnyyo, devs, theres a "bot server" in #3... is it possible to remove it?
18:38.55Winnyit is actually advetised with "bot server"
18:40.02blast007heh...
18:41.16blast007nice, it's full
18:41.49Winnyblast007: can you remove it? :p
18:41.50whodaman-no observers, heh
18:42.06blast007Winny: yup
18:42.10Winny:D
18:42.13whodaman-Winny: it could just be somebody testing their bots?
18:42.23Winnywhodaman-: no need for a public server for that
18:42.40whodaman-meh he could be testing it *with* other players
18:43.06Winnynope
18:43.07Winnyhttp://my.bzflag.org/serverinfo.php?server=69.151.251.0%3A5154
18:43.15WinnyJoe Mama's fault
18:43.42whodaman-uhoh
18:43.51Winnylooks like he's just trying get a highscore on the listserver
18:43.54whodaman-OK, well he can do that with a local bzfs
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18:55.53keith80403What would cause the text on the screen to change to white blocks after choosing Start Server (Version 2.0.8?)
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19:01.36blast007keith80403: what video card, driver, and operating system?
19:02.08blast007JeffM: what's that option for enabling bitmap fonts in BZ?
19:02.14blast00712:53:11 < keith80403> What would cause the text on the screen to change to white blocks after choosing Start Server (Version 2.0.8?)
19:02.17JeffMwhat version?
19:02.53JeffMafter doing start?
19:02.58JeffMthat's ood
19:03.16blast007maybe due to smaller sized font?
19:03.17JeffMusualy it stays garbage from start when it' bitmap font
19:03.29JeffMprobalby the context geting blown out on the call to exec
19:03.53JeffMbut let me find it
19:04.50JeffMset useBitmapFontRenderer 1
19:04.52JeffMfor 2.0.x
19:05.00JeffMit's all difrent in 2.2
19:24.48JeffMyeah DTRemenak needs to update it so that we can enable the autoupdate for windows users
19:24.57JeffMit needs a specific format to work right IIRC
19:25.41JeffMbut we only get one shot at it for 2.0.x cus once we tell it that .10 is out, we can't do another update unless we get a larger number
19:26.02JeffMfor 2.2 we can do sub revs cus it uses regex
19:26.15delusionalthese -solo bots are VERY stupid, they dont even fire,  something tells me thats on purpose
19:26.27JeffMhuh?
19:26.39JeffMthey are the oldest bot code
19:26.45delusionalmy -solo bots don't fire.
19:27.05JeffMthey should
19:35.26blast007delusional: which version of bzflag?
19:35.49CIA-MIAlibirc: 03JeffM2501 * r339 10/trunk/libirc/botlib/ (inc/botlib.h src/botlib.cpp): do a proper nick chain when we get errors, calling the virtual method to let the client app override if necessary.
19:36.03JeffMwell yeah solo bots in dev just odn't work at all
19:36.44delusionaloh crap, you're right, as usual, I have RC3
19:36.51delusionalsorry
19:36.56blast007delusional: 2.0.10 RC3?
19:37.02delusionalyes
19:37.02blast007the bots should work in that
19:37.25blast007by "dev", jeff meant the current dev version, a.k.a. 2.1.x
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19:40.36delusionalI'll just clean up the multiplicity of bzflag versions. working on drawinfo creates a truckload of files too.
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20:31.49thatexploding_its telling me to wait 2 min before using REGISTER again
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20:42.11JeffMyour not going to get the full name, it's too long
20:43.03thatexplodingare you talking to me?
20:43.09JeffMyes
20:43.20whodaman-JeffM: I got him settled in
20:43.32whodaman-as in registering this one etc.
20:43.36thatexplodingyes, i know, thats why i only have thatexploding and not thatexplodingtank
20:43.48JeffMin general long names are somewhat lame, pick a more normal name, like "steve"
20:45.56delusionalwindoohe's been using that for awhile
20:46.06delusionalhe's been using that for awhile
20:46.28delusionalthatexploding,  maybe drop the "that"
20:47.03JeffMit's also good to remember that freenode is not just about bzflag, so your nick will be seen by others.
20:47.19thatexplodingdelusional: im already registered :)
20:47.35thatexplodinghmm
20:47.56explodingwell, exploding is already registered
20:48.12whodaman-JeffM: I think he's mainly in here for the bzflag side of FreeNode
20:48.20JeffMI know
20:48.22JeffMI'm just sayin
20:48.35thatexplodingi rarely use irc for anything else :)
20:48.57JeffMyour uses of it do not change the fact that it contains more then bzflag ;)
20:49.03thatexplodingi know :)
20:49.04delusionalwell, just remember... in a year or two, you might not like that name, and it's harder to change a name after youve had it awhile.
20:49.06whodaman-JeffM: you've got a point there
20:49.47delusionali maen, you can change it anytime, but you want people to revognize you.
20:50.19JeffMmost names that are made so that they look funny after the killed by name, are somewhat lame IMHO
20:50.34donny_bakeryep, i regret my name... but hard to change now
20:50.56whodaman-donny_baker: how come?
20:50.57thatexplodingdonny_baker: your name sounds good :)
20:51.33donny_bakerits a fictional character that I don't like anymore
20:51.57donny_bakerand now I turn around when people say donny :P
20:52.26whodaman-woah
20:52.30donny_bakermy  real name is Joe
20:52.39thatexplodinghmm
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20:53.31whodaman-man americans thought it was *the* funniest thing to say "dexter's laboratory" rofl rofl rofl
20:54.12JeffMjust change it
20:54.19JeffMit dosn't take that long to get everyone redone
20:54.20JeffMI did it
20:54.51whodaman-JeffM: I was referring to my real name, it's kinda hard to change that ;)
20:55.03JeffMI was talking to donny_baker
20:55.07JeffMbut sure change yours too
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20:55.48donny_bakeryeah, i know but just seems like a pain... i don't dislike it THAT much
20:55.59JeffMit's not that big of a pain
20:56.11JeffMtechincaly I've changed my name 3 times here
20:56.35whodaman-JeffM: you just mean the IRC name right?
20:56.43JeffMall of it
20:56.52JeffMIRC< fourms, etcc
20:56.54JeffMnot legal name
20:57.06whodaman-yeah I know
20:58.20whodaman-meh, even have a bunch of email-adr. assigned in relationship to that name
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21:01.18whodaman-JeffM: you could just change the forums name like that?
21:01.27JeffMyeah
21:01.34thatexplodingyou can, the acp lets you do that
21:01.35JeffMjust go to your profile, and change it
21:01.43JeffMit'llupdate all your stuff
21:01.51whodaman-usergroups etc.
21:01.57JeffMyeah
21:02.05JeffMall that stuff is tied to your BZID
21:02.07JeffMNOT your name
21:02.12JeffMyou change your name, but not your BZID
21:02.16JeffMso change your name all you want
21:02.20delusionalits easy, you dont lose messages or anything
21:02.21whodaman-right
21:02.55delusionalall your posts get the new name, it works rally easy.
21:03.30whodaman-jsut have to be ready to type "hi this is whodaman?, I've changed my name" about 400 times
21:03.40delusionalwliar
21:03.54thatexplodingheh, phpbb is still stuck on rc7
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23:53.22jude-hello all, long time no see
23:53.33Winnyhey jude-!!!!
23:53.43whodaman-:)
23:53.50Winnyhow goes it?
23:54.05jude-very busy :/
23:54.09Winny:(
23:54.13jude-...which explains my absence
23:54.24jude-but fortunately...4-day weekend approaches
23:54.49Winnyyou should just never close your IRC client like me :p
23:54.53jude-lol
23:55.00jude-but then I'd have to leave my laptop on all the time
23:55.05Winnyso?
23:55.14jude-and I'm bound to wonder outside of hotspots
23:55.37Winnyoh.. right I restarted a couple days ago to apply 10.4.11 update
23:55.44WinnyI was at ~30 days before
23:55.49jude-jeez
23:56.09jude-constant uptime, or with suspend/resume?
23:57.21Winnyconstant
23:57.32jude-wow
23:57.34jude-nice
23:57.41jude-no battery explosions, I hope?
23:57.58Winnylol, no
23:58.01jude-good :)
23:58.06jude-so how goes it for you?
23:58.25Winnypretty good, probably nowhere the same workload as you
23:58.38jude-how are your classes?
23:58.53Winnythey're classes :p
23:59.17jude-heh
23:59.17WinnyDon't like being there, but don;t hate it either
23:59.25jude-what year are you?
23:59.45Winnynot in uni yet
23:59.49jude-I know
23:59.53whodaman-11th? right Winny

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