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| 00:02.13 | brlcad | JeffM2501: they're rolling in: http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m17747d81 :) |
| 00:02.55 | JeffM2501 | ok that's in part |
| 00:03.54 | brlcad | i'm going to make a debug build so it'll actually have line numbers and the correct call stack |
| 00:04.11 | JeffM2501 | ok good |
| 00:04.14 | JeffM2501 | cus that will help |
| 00:05.20 | brlcad | is there already throttling? |
| 00:05.40 | brlcad | if not, with the dozen or so channels it will quickly get flood kicked |
| 00:05.50 | JeffM2501 | yeah it throttles |
| 00:05.54 | brlcad | coo |
| 00:08.49 | brlcad | that last one is a crash on std::vector::erase(), so probably a reverse iterator issue in userPartChannel() |
| 00:09.20 | JeffM2501 | I replaced all those |
| 00:09.22 | JeffM2501 | but i'll look |
| 00:09.35 | JeffM2501 | for the private message one I need the line number in IRCClient::callEventHandler |
| 00:09.44 | JeffM2501 | since that is a generic method used by all events |
| 00:10.24 | JeffM2501 | ahh I missed a protection |
| 00:10.56 | JeffM2501 | cus it's not even using an iterator |
| 00:11.01 | JeffM2501 | it's a reverse FOR loop |
| 00:11.15 | JeffM2501 | and killing them by index ( begin()+index) |
| 00:11.40 | brlcad | ah, so bad index after first erase |
| 00:11.59 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 00:12.01 | JeffM2501 | it's backwards |
| 00:12.07 | JeffM2501 | erases from end to front |
| 00:12.11 | JeffM2501 | so the index is always valid |
| 00:13.53 | brlcad | hrm, okay to comment out the privMessage() handler? or do you need it ? |
| 00:15.43 | JeffM2501 | that wont' pevent the crash I don't think but you can try |
| 00:16.31 | brlcad | it was one of the three |
| 00:16.44 | JeffM2501 | well the crash is deeper |
| 00:16.49 | JeffM2501 | inside the lib not the bot |
| 00:18.16 | brlcad | it died inside callEventHandler(), from IRCClient::privMessage() .. for relaying it doesn't really need to do anything for priv right now |
| 00:18.46 | brlcad | i mean, I agree/get that the bug is elsewhere, but that'll at least mask that one :) |
| 00:20.00 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 00:20.11 | JeffM2501 | I have a fix so you don't have to comment, but can turn it off in the config |
| 00:21.22 | brlcad | way to comment out things in the config file? |
| 00:21.41 | JeffM2501 | start it with anyting that isnt' a keywrod |
| 00:21.45 | JeffM2501 | lines it dosn't know are ignored |
| 00:21.52 | JeffM2501 | so % or // or yourMoM |
| 00:22.01 | JeffM2501 | or # |
| 00:22.01 | brlcad | ok |
| 00:22.06 | JeffM2501 | it's flexable |
| 00:22.55 | JeffM2501 | get latest again ;) |
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| 00:24.21 | JeffM2501 | damnit |
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| 00:31.35 | donny | tim riker: ping |
| 00:31.54 | donny | ahh |
| 00:33.07 | donny | JeffM2501: pong, still looking for me? (from yesterday) |
| 00:38.19 | Constitution | all hail bzflag 2.0.11! :) |
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| 00:45.55 | JeffM2501 | you bumped the sources to 11? |
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| 00:50.20 | Constitution | yes |
| 00:50.33 | JeffM2501 | good man |
| 01:00.18 | JeffM2501 | yay for live fire libIRC testing |
| 01:01.18 | Macrosoft | brb |
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| 01:01.28 | Winny | ...he was here? |
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| 01:02.45 | Winny | oh, right |
| 01:02.51 | JeffM2501 | no mater what it won't do hugs |
| 01:02.55 | JeffM2501 | it's not a real CIA |
| 01:02.58 | Winny | ahh |
| 01:03.19 | JeffM2501 | it's monotring #commits and just sending stuff for specific projects out to specific channels |
| 01:04.28 | JeffM2501 | basicly as long as the CIA in #commits works, it'll work |
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| 01:06.47 | Winny | why doesn't it work here? |
| 01:07.20 | JeffM | the real CIA? or the CIA-MIA? |
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| 01:07.25 | JeffM | the MIA one cus we are debuging it |
| 01:07.30 | JeffM | she crashes |
| 01:08.01 | Winny | the real CIA |
| 01:08.32 | JeffM | it has problems |
| 01:08.34 | JeffM | big ones |
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| 01:12.14 | Macrosoft | brb again |
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| 01:12.21 | Constitution | heh |
| 01:13.11 | Winny | haha... |
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| 01:40.18 | CIA-MIA | libirc: 03brlcad * r325 10/trunk/libirc/examples/stupidBot/sample.cfg: test |
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| 02:16.43 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery xmission.bzflag.org |
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| 02:49.58 | brlcad | TimRiker: hm, odd .. you're not on the firewall and the name resolves both ways |
| 02:58.01 | ahs3- | Where are the favorites stored for 2.0.10? looking to backup |
| 02:58.47 | JeffM | proably in the config |
| 02:59.36 | ahs3- | config.cfg ?? |
| 03:00.02 | JeffM | depends on your oS |
| 03:00.19 | ahs3- | well linux for me, but someone else is asking for windows |
| 03:01.33 | JeffM | windows it'll be in the my documents\my bzflag files\ dir |
| 03:01.57 | ahs3- | oh so favs are stored in config.cfg on both o/s |
| 03:06.34 | JeffM | I think so |
| 03:06.41 | JeffM | but I may be wrong |
| 03:06.46 | JeffM | I didn't write that part |
| 03:06.50 | JeffM | it's just probable |
| 03:07.03 | ahs3- | ok, thanks |
| 03:07.46 | ahs3- | hearing a lot of windows users, saying when the upgrade from 2.0.10 rc3 to 2.0.10 they loose there favs |
| 03:08.20 | CIA-MIA | libirc: 03JeffM2501 * r329 10/trunk/libirc/ (include/IRCClient.h src/IRCClient.cpp src/irClientEvents.cpp): |
| 03:08.20 | CIA-MIA | libirc: send the connection event when we first get some data, not when the MOTD is done. |
| 03:08.23 | CIA-MIA | libirc: This gives us the best possible state as early as possible. |
| 03:08.41 | JeffM | RC3 is like nearly the same code as .10 |
| 03:08.56 | ahs3- | I know, it sounded strange too me. |
| 03:09.57 | Winny | JeffM: hmm. looks like pdcurses.dll is missing, but BZAdmin is working for me :/ |
| 03:10.25 | JeffM | I built it static this time |
| 03:10.27 | ahs3- | Thanks JeffM |
| 03:10.59 | Winny | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11753 -> read the last reply |
| 03:11.02 | JeffM | ahh yeah see that |
| 03:11.10 | JeffM | I guess it didn't use the static version |
| 03:11.18 | JeffM | I'll rebuild and repost when I get home |
| 03:19.16 | TimRiker | hmm. started another, then stopped it. and now the one I didn't restart is on the list. |
| 03:19.42 | TimRiker | does -advertise VERIFIED work? I removed that earlier. I thought it did work. |
| 03:26.50 | Macrosoft | how does advertise work anyway? dont you have to connect before a server knows your callsign? |
| 03:27.32 | JeffM | iit's group based |
| 03:27.37 | blast007 | Macrosoft: -advertise just affects who can see your server on the list |
| 03:27.44 | JeffM | when the server adds to the list |
| 03:27.47 | TimRiker | when you get the server list, you send credentials to the list server. it then only show you servers that are advertised to you. |
| 03:27.49 | blast007 | yeah, groups |
| 03:27.50 | JeffM | it says what groups to send to |
| 03:27.56 | JeffM | then when YOU get a list, you also login |
| 03:28.02 | JeffM | so the list knows your groups |
| 03:28.15 | JeffM | and checks the servers it sends to you |
| 03:28.30 | TimRiker | isn't -advertise VERIFIED supposed to work? |
| 03:28.42 | TimRiker | ie: only show up for logged in players? |
| 03:31.56 | TimRiker | hmm. seems to be working now. |
| 03:32.40 | JeffM | by the power of SCIENCE! |
| 03:32.41 | TimRiker | hmm. I take that back. now I can see if even if I'm not verified. |
| 03:32.56 | blast007 | Random feature |
| 03:33.24 | Winny | Its the Mitt romney of features |
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| 03:34.12 | TimRiker | hehe. well, back later. |
| 03:39.01 | blast007 | TimRiker: looks like the "VERIFIED" stuff was commented out and replaced with another query by menotume for some reason |
| 03:39.10 | blast007 | "speed fix ??" |
| 03:41.26 | CIA-MIA | libirc: 03JeffM2501 * r330 10/trunk/libirc/src/IRCClient.cpp: when we are quiting, don't complain about not having network command handlers when the network itself is not valid. |
| 03:45.42 | CIA-MIA | libirc: 03JeffM2501 * r331 10/trunk/libirc/examples/stupidBot/src/stupidBot.cpp: throttle the inital channel joins, do them one at a time, and only after we have the MOTD, and a valid nick |
| 03:54.42 | Macrosoft | gah!, the new bz is released and my glx starts acting up today |
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| 04:45.33 | brlcad | ~Constitution++ |
| 04:45.49 | brlcad | nice job stepping up |
| 04:48.52 | JeffM | hmm duno if I can fix the build now with out using the pdcurses dll :( |
| 04:51.44 | Constitution | thanks brlcad :) |
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| 05:06.49 | a_meteorite | is there a regex used anywhere to tell if a callsign is valid or not (bz doesn't allow all characters, but all of which I don't know) |
| 05:12.44 | Constitution | love the overreachingly comprehensive content in this post: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=117217#117217 ;) |
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| 06:02.06 | brlcad | a_meteorite: it's not a regex, it just has to do a character comparison |
| 06:02.52 | brlcad | you can find the list it uses, but that list does sometimes change across versions |
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| 06:05.46 | blast007 | and phpBB might have it's own checks it uses as well |
| 06:06.01 | blast007 | s/might have/does have/ |
| 06:06.29 | a_meteorite | isn't bz's more restrictive than phpbb's? |
| 06:07.21 | a_meteorite | and where are these character comparisons done? someplace central so I can look? |
| 06:09.19 | blast007 | a_meteorite: grep for @ |
| 06:09.31 | a_meteorite | blast007: k |
| 06:11.55 | TimRiker | well, I added the VERIFIED back into the list. looks like the current php script is NOT in svn. that's a bug indeed. |
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| 06:24.56 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: 03timriker * r16211 10/trunk/db/bzfls.php: evil uncommitted code |
| 06:25.09 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: 03timriker * r16212 10/trunk/db/bzfls.php: evil uncommitted code |
| 06:25.18 | brlcad | doubly evil |
| 06:25.22 | TimRiker | heh |
| 06:26.56 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: 03timriker * r16213 10/trunk/db/ (16 files): more evil uncommitted code |
| 06:27.25 | a_meteorite | O_o |
| 06:31.05 | blast007 | hmm... the list server logging is commented out... what was that for again? |
| 06:31.33 | blast007 | quelling an error/warning? |
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| 06:34.28 | brlcad | blast007: good question, I forget the reason, but it shouldn't have been left that way |
| 06:34.36 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: 03timriker * r16214 10/trunk/db/ (30 files in 5 dirs): much more evil uncommitted code |
| 06:35.01 | brlcad | iirc, there was something erroring out causing trouble for external folks pulling the list for their own purposes (the client handled the bogus data fine) |
| 06:35.10 | blast007 | yeah |
| 06:35.15 | brlcad | so instead of quelling the error sent to the list, all output was shut off.. |
| 06:35.19 | TimRiker | blast007: check the commit message on it. oh wait. there _are_ _no_ _commit_ _messages_. |
| 06:35.40 | blast007 | ;) |
| 06:35.49 | blast007 | the error could have been quelled with a simple @ too |
| 06:37.43 | brlcad | there actually should be a nearly complete log of who did what to the file for culpability tracing if we absolutely needed to know, only because the server tracks everything :) |
| 06:38.39 | brlcad | it was apparently shut off on oct 12th between 2pm-3pm EST |
| 06:38.46 | TimRiker | we need to get that whole tree up to date in svn. |
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| 06:39.09 | TimRiker | I've merged in the .svn files and checked in the old files that have changed. I have NOT added any new files. |
| 06:43.35 | TimRiker | hmm. I'm not sure what's there. how do I diff with trunk? ie: see what svn up would do without doing it? |
| 06:45.19 | Constitution | svn diff -r HEAD? |
| 06:47.01 | blast007 | Constitution: "HEAD" is a CVS term |
| 06:47.23 | blast007 | TimRiker: try: svn diff -r 16214 |
| 06:47.35 | blast007 | might be a keyword for trunk, but I'm not sure |
| 06:47.49 | Constitution | blast007: `svn help diff` shows 'HEAD' as a valid option, and I've used it |
| 06:47.59 | blast007 | Constitution: really? hmm |
| 06:48.09 | Constitution | but the revision number works too, I guess |
| 06:48.15 | blast007 | guess it does |
| 06:48.38 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: 03timriker * r16215 10/trunk/db/bzfls.php: re-add VERIFIED support |
| 06:49.01 | TimRiker | yep. HEAD worked. thx. |
| 06:50.01 | TimRiker | please clean up more of that dir... we need revision control on this stuff too. |
| 06:50.44 | TimRiker | advertise VERIFIED works great now. |
| 06:51.20 | TimRiker | oh, I sent up the debian 2.0.10 and closed out a bunch of bugs it fixes. |
| 06:51.23 | TimRiker | I'm off to bed. |
| 06:52.14 | brlcad | HEAD is still a term in svn, it just refers to the file revisions instead of a hierarchical branch/tree |
| 06:52.27 | brlcad | so it's still used for -r revisions and ranges |
| 06:52.56 | brlcad | BASE and HEAD |
| 06:58.12 | CIA-MIA | libirc: 03brlcad * r332 10/trunk/libirc/examples/stupidBot/sample.cfg: revert back to the last 'real' sample |
| 06:58.56 | CIA-MIA | libirc: 03brlcad * r333 10/trunk/libirc/ (11 files in 6 dirs): s/receve/receive/g |
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| 07:45.51 | Constitution | Is someone going to create an motd entry for the new release? |
| 07:57.46 | brlcad | after all the main binaries are posted |
| 07:58.02 | Constitution | k |
| 07:58.14 | brlcad | (nominally windows, mac, linux x86) |
| 08:00.06 | brlcad | I can make the mac dmg tomorrow afternoon (in about 15 hours) |
| 08:00.22 | Constitution | cool |
| 08:00.25 | brlcad | maybe earlier |
| 08:00.46 | Constitution | did we decide to go universal? |
| 08:00.58 | brlcad | don't see why not |
| 08:01.24 | brlcad | seemed like both binaries worked pretty well |
| 08:01.40 | brlcad | at least I didn't hear any reports |
| 08:02.08 | Constitution | yeah |
| 08:02.20 | Constitution | the one I did was a royal pain |
| 08:02.32 | Constitution | but I saw you made some changes, so perhaps it's easier now than then |
| 08:06.50 | Constitution | or, perhaps I just didn't know what I was doing :) |
| 08:08.11 | brlcad | it's all pretty easy to me, but then I know the process in and out for the most part ;) |
| 08:08.30 | brlcad | it just only gets worked on when there's a release, so it slowly gets better as releases are made |
| 08:08.37 | brlcad | i.e. effort proportional to need ;) |
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| 09:09.17 | noyb | ok, I'm finally enough of cheaters on badgerking, how does one apply to be admin so I can attempt to weed out the cheaters? |
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| 09:11.25 | L4m3r | On most servers, you don't |
| 09:12.13 | noyb | hey! what's this "shuddap" business, eh? I didn't needle you folks at all during this entire time between .8 and .10. I'm sure that's a record. somewhere. I think... :-) |
| 09:12.13 | L4m3r | but either way, this channel is for the bzflag project. servers are privately run, and I'm pretty sure that Badgerking does not monitor this channel. |
| 09:12.13 | noyb | k |
| 09:12.13 | noyb | thanks L4m3r . |
| 09:12.36 | L4m3r | as a note, most admins are turned off by people who ask to be adminned |
| 09:12.36 | noyb | yeah... I should know better. I've lurked here for years. :-) |
| 09:13.02 | noyb | L4m3r: I figured as much. |
| 09:13.34 | L4m3r | unfortunately your best bet is probably to vote with your feet |
| 09:13.41 | noyb | but, but... I've been playing there for so many years! :-) |
| 09:13.50 | L4m3r | though... doesn't Badgerking have a big admin team? |
| 09:14.00 | noyb | yeah, I usually just leave the server. |
| 09:14.09 | noyb | yes, I thought he had a lot. |
| 09:14.18 | L4m3r | it seems there is a disproportionate amount of cheating there, at least lately |
| 09:14.19 | noyb | so it's prolly not needed. |
| 09:14.42 | noyb | funny thing is, there were two on just before the cheater came in. |
| 09:15.02 | noyb | yes, I would say so. |
| 09:15.21 | L4m3r | looks like someone needs some hidden admins ;) |
| 09:15.43 | noyb | It's my favorite server ever, but it's pretty bad when I see a cheater every time I play. |
| 09:15.56 | noyb | I *rarely* play anywhere else. |
| 09:17.02 | noyb | hidden admin sounds like a nice feature. |
| 09:17.35 | L4m3r | widely used at major servers |
| 09:17.55 | noyb | is badgerking a major server? |
| 09:18.12 | L4m3r | er, many major servers ;) |
| 09:18.31 | noyb | see how much I know about admin? |
| 09:18.55 | L4m3r | dunno if BK uses it or not |
| 09:19.11 | L4m3r | but I guess that's the idea, isn't it? ;) |
| 09:19.18 | noyb | heh |
| 09:22.29 | noyb | is brlcad building the macosx version? |
| 09:22.56 | L4m3r | I think he said he was going to tomorrow afternoon |
| 09:23.06 | noyb | burnout? |
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| 15:00.04 | delusional_ | jeff, there's no load options for that new plugin? the readme still talks about TOR |
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| 15:22.08 | delusional_ | well, we're testing it now |
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| 16:10.02 | delusional_ | i think the reason I can't see the coppa group is so players can't opt-out |
| 16:10.17 | delusional_ | on the forum |
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| 17:50.16 | JeffM | ahah |
| 17:50.32 | JeffM | anyone see the thing about windows not saving favorates? |
| 17:52.36 | blast007 | I haven't tried |
| 17:53.26 | blast007 | yeah, doesn't work |
| 17:53.53 | JeffM | got any clue where it's saved in the code? |
| 17:56.29 | JeffM | the windows installer on SF has been updated so that BZAdmin works |
| 17:58.47 | JeffM | any against removing show coordinates from playing users for 2.2 and leaving it just as an observer thing? |
| 17:59.41 | blast007 | JeffM: I actually like that feature |
| 17:59.52 | blast007 | and it's very useful for map development |
| 17:59.55 | JeffM | ok, then we'll merge it into a proper place in the display |
| 18:00.13 | JeffM | maybe a "local info" section, in a little box you can pull up |
| 18:00.30 | JeffM | have it show your pos, flag, lag, fps, etc.. |
| 18:00.47 | JeffM | Chestal, are you arround? |
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| 18:04.10 | JeffM | it looks like it saves favs in the cache?!? |
| 18:04.57 | JeffM | mayhaps it just won't write it untill it needs to write a new cache file |
| 18:06.08 | JeffM | can you try blowing out your cache and see if that helps? |
| 18:06.21 | JeffM | or are you set to nocache? |
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| 18:41.21 | JeffM | consolodation ;) |
| 18:41.33 | Erroneous | change for the sake of change? :) |
| 18:41.40 | JeffM | evolution ;) |
| 18:41.55 | JeffM | more woried about the favorites thing then anything |
| 18:42.04 | JeffM | I mean how many of my "ideas" get implemented? |
| 18:42.07 | Chestal | JeffM: I barely remember about the favs, but yes, the info is in the server list cache file |
| 18:42.23 | JeffM | Chestal, do you know where the cache is saved? |
| 18:42.30 | JeffM | I'm just looking for a hint to start debuging |
| 18:42.42 | Chestal | 2.0 or 2.2? |
| 18:42.47 | JeffM | .0 |
| 18:43.06 | JeffM | we released 2.0.10 yesteday, and it's not saving the favorites localy on windows |
| 18:43.41 | Chestal | the file should be in the cache dir, whereever that is on Windows. Same dir the maps are cached in |
| 18:43.55 | Chestal | filename should be BZFS0026_1-Servers.bzs |
| 18:44.23 | JeffM | that should help me, thanks :) |
| 18:44.30 | Chestal | the _1 is added in 2_0 because it need to distinguish between old cache file (without favs) and the new one |
| 18:45.13 | Chestal | not sure how the loading works, maybe it first tries with _1 then without. or it tries to lst the directory? somethign liek that could maybe file on Windows |
| 18:45.33 | Chestal | I think I had it checked by someone on windows when I added it, but don't remember |
| 18:45.59 | JeffM | I got a breakpoint in the place we compute the cache file name, so I can step from there, thanks |
| 18:51.11 | JeffM | ahh I see the issue |
| 18:51.13 | JeffM | double \\ |
| 18:51.56 | Chestal | oh, this is a problem? |
| 18:52.03 | JeffM | yes |
| 18:52.06 | JeffM | not a valid path |
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| 18:52.17 | Chestal | getCacheDirName returns a trailing \? |
| 18:52.20 | JeffM | getCacheDirName() returns a path with a \ |
| 18:52.21 | JeffM | yeah |
| 18:52.24 | Chestal | uh |
| 18:52.34 | JeffM | so one line voop and we are good :) |
| 18:52.44 | JeffM | does it do that on nix? |
| 18:52.49 | JeffM | or do we have an inconsistency? |
| 18:53.04 | JeffM | it would not suprise me if we had one |
| 18:53.05 | Chestal | no idea, where is the function located_? |
| 18:53.14 | Chestal | unix does not care about too any ///// |
| 18:53.21 | JeffM | DirectoryNames.cxx |
| 18:53.34 | JeffM | yeah at the end it puts a DirectorySeparator |
| 18:53.41 | JeffM | outside of the OS specific |
| 18:53.50 | JeffM | so I can pull it from the cache call |
| 18:54.09 | Chestal | ok, it unconditionally adds the dir separator, so it can be removed from the caller |
| 18:54.15 | JeffM | yes |
| 18:54.51 | JeffM | I'll check all the other uses of it |
| 18:54.57 | Chestal | I shoudl have checked, although I find it surprising that the / \ is added in that function |
| 18:55.14 | Chestal | actually, it's a bad way to buidl the path anyway |
| 18:55.24 | Chestal | I think somethign liek boost filesystem does it better |
| 18:55.42 | JeffM | ok, all other uses of it are cool |
| 18:55.47 | Chestal | you don't just atach strings together, but instead you have objects representing a filename and a path |
| 18:55.54 | JeffM | a good thing |
| 18:56.23 | JeffM | tags are the same as branches in svn are they not? |
| 18:58.16 | Chestal | I think both are just copies of a specific version, yes |
| 18:58.34 | Chestal | but my SVN skills are low :-) |
| 18:58.40 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16217 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/game/ServerListCache.cxx: when geting the cache dir, don't put in an extra dir separator it's not valid on windows. |
| 19:00.15 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16218 10/trunk/bzflag/src/game/ServerListCache.cxx: when geting the cache dir, don't put in an extra dir separator it's not valid on windows. |
| 19:00.21 | Erroneous | yes, tags and branches are the same |
| 19:00.25 | JeffM | k |
| 19:00.31 | Erroneous | and they're both pointers to a specific revision, not copies |
| 19:00.33 | JeffM | then I'm geting the tag and I'll update that |
| 19:00.58 | Erroneous | then diffs are stacked on that |
| 19:01.19 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16219 10/tags/v2_0_10/bzflag/src/game/ServerListCache.cxx: when geting the cache dir, don't put in an extra dir separator it's not valid on windows. |
| 19:01.24 | JeffM | there |
| 19:01.39 | JeffM | Constitution, when you have time can you update the source packages? |
| 19:01.47 | Erroneous | conceptual copies I guess |
| 19:02.01 | Erroneous | since you can create them with svn copy |
| 19:02.03 | Thumper_ | JeffM: ts added something to branch this morning |
| 19:02.09 | JeffM | branch is fine |
| 19:02.14 | JeffM | branch is .11 |
| 19:02.16 | JeffM | dead |
| 19:02.18 | Thumper_ | ok |
| 19:02.24 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: 03Chestal * r16220 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzflag/HUDRenderer.cxx: typo |
| 19:02.27 | JeffM | is what he added crititcal? |
| 19:02.33 | JeffM | for the .10 release? |
| 19:02.33 | Thumper_ | nope |
| 19:02.38 | JeffM | then don't care ;) |
| 19:02.51 | Chestal | Postion -> Position in the HUD |
| 19:02.57 | JeffM | ahh |
| 19:03.00 | Thumper_ | just wasn't sure if it was going to end up in the new 2.0.10 or not |
| 19:03.09 | JeffM | there is, but it won't be branch |
| 19:03.15 | JeffM | branch is now AFTER .10 |
| 19:04.25 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16221 10/tags/v2_0_10/bzflag/package/win32/nsis/BZFlag.nsi: use pdcurses.dll, not curses.dll |
| 19:05.19 | Chestal | JeffM: do you plan to build a Win binary with favorites fixed for 2.0.10? |
| 19:05.25 | JeffM | yes |
| 19:05.27 | JeffM | I am doing so now |
| 19:05.35 | JeffM | and I shall update sf again |
| 19:07.21 | JeffM | ts, why does 2.2 not needs your _countdownResumeDelay change? |
| 19:07.38 | ts | JeffM: 2.1 already has it, IIRC |
| 19:07.42 | JeffM | ok thanks |
| 19:07.48 | JeffM | just wondering why it was only one commit |
| 19:07.51 | ts | but in 2.1 it's buggy |
| 19:08.01 | JeffM | you going to fix it? |
| 19:08.14 | ts | yes, this weekend |
| 19:08.20 | JeffM | cool, thanks |
| 19:08.41 | ts | I did just play at viper |
| 19:08.49 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16222 10/tags/v2_0_10/bzflag/src/bzflag/HUDRenderer.cxx: typo |
| 19:09.00 | ts | I was using 2.0.11 and went through a teleporter with my GM |
| 19:09.01 | JeffM | there we go, tag should be good to go again :) |
| 19:09.20 | ts | then I was suddently in the box below the teleporter and sealed |
| 19:09.41 | JeffM | and that never happened in any of the RCs or older code? |
| 19:09.52 | ts | Not that I saw |
| 19:10.01 | JeffM | does it happen in .10? |
| 19:10.36 | ts | Not tested..but what's the difference between those two versions? |
| 19:10.44 | JeffM | your change |
| 19:10.51 | ts | Server side only ;) |
| 19:11.00 | JeffM | you asked the question, I answered |
| 19:11.04 | JeffM | please test in .10 |
| 19:11.09 | JeffM | honestly, 11 is dead |
| 19:11.15 | JeffM | we have no reason to make a 12 |
| 19:11.28 | Erroneous | course that's what we said about 9 and 10 too :) |
| 19:11.30 | ruskie | had no reason for .10 as well didn't you? |
| 19:11.33 | JeffM | i know |
| 19:11.40 | JeffM | we had a reason in the end for 10 |
| 19:11.50 | JeffM | debian and gentoo |
| 19:12.00 | JeffM | but serisouyly we have to stop some time |
| 19:12.07 | JeffM | unless you want another 1.8 on your hands |
| 19:12.13 | Erroneous | we just need to release 2.2 sometime |
| 19:12.22 | Erroneous | then 2.0 will stop of its own accord |
| 19:12.28 | ts | Honestly I do not understand the way 2.1 is going |
| 19:12.42 | Erroneous | it goes whatever way you push it |
| 19:12.45 | JeffM | yes but if people keep puting stuff into 2.0 and not working on 2.2 it'll never finish |
| 19:12.50 | ts | We have so much dependencies and put them all in our repository |
| 19:13.12 | JeffM | 2 new deps were added |
| 19:13.14 | JeffM | that's it |
| 19:13.26 | ruskie | what was added? |
| 19:13.32 | ts | What if $random_port gets broken with a newer compiler/build environment? |
| 19:13.40 | JeffM | freetype and ftgl |
| 19:13.52 | JeffM | ts, well.. then you know we do development and FIX IT |
| 19:13.59 | Erroneous | same as if bzflag gets broken. we pull in upstream updates or fix it ourselves |
| 19:14.01 | JeffM | what if some of our code breaks |
| 19:14.07 | JeffM | you can't live in fear |
| 19:14.50 | ts | JeffM: I'm saying if it is independent then we could just update our installation, not our code |
| 19:14.59 | Erroneous | ts: you still can |
| 19:15.02 | ts | and we get "new" versions for free |
| 19:15.12 | JeffM | yeah we don't HAVE to use the built in stuff |
| 19:15.14 | Erroneous | configure is set up to detect system installations first and use them if possible |
| 19:15.42 | Erroneous | the ones in the repository are fallbacks, and needed for windows anyway |
| 19:16.05 | JeffM | and they build DLLs as well, so I can just update the install |
| 19:17.29 | JeffM | not that I would, since we are a small distrobution |
| 19:17.55 | ts | ports* |
| 19:18.11 | JeffM | well that dosn't have to build on windows |
| 19:18.15 | Erroneous | more importantly, if a new version of a third-party lib at system level breaks OUR build, people can pass a configure switch to use the one we've tested |
| 19:18.43 | Erroneous | konqueror has a single, extremely large dependency |
| 19:18.51 | Erroneous | it would be somewhat foolish to include that |
| 19:19.04 | JeffM | windows has a big dependency we don't include |
| 19:19.06 | JeffM | windows |
| 19:19.36 | Chestal | JeffM: strayer just told me that 2.0.10 has the wrong (old 1.7) icon? |
| 19:19.39 | JeffM | so what you are saying ( as I hear it ) you don't like working on 2.1 because the source distrobution is too big |
| 19:19.41 | SpazzyMcGee | JeffM: my post in the release thread, that was sarcasm ;) |
| 19:19.56 | JeffM | Chestal, on the app? |
| 19:20.03 | ts | I see a problem...say configure disables regex on our build environments but some people need to build it..perhaps old code is not working anymore |
| 19:20.10 | JeffM | cus it looks like the right one to me |
| 19:20.25 | ts | so they get errors one would not expect in the first moment |
| 19:20.42 | JeffM | and you are haveing problems with that during your development ts? |
| 19:21.28 | Chestal | JeffM: yes, as I understand it (grey rectangle with black "BZ") |
| 19:21.42 | JeffM | it's the red tank on my screen |
| 19:21.53 | JeffM | icon hasn't changed in ages |
| 19:22.02 | ts | JeffM: Not during development but for looking at build errors for other peepz |
| 19:22.28 | JeffM | have your small marshmellow candies had big issues? |
| 19:22.59 | Erroneous | ts: --with-regex will force the use of our provided regex |
| 19:23.23 | Erroneous | the person building has all the control |
| 19:23.58 | ts | That is what its help says |
| 19:24.39 | JeffM | the installer on the website has been updated |
| 19:24.52 | JeffM | Chestal, it's possible the icon cache on his system needs to be rebuilt. |
| 19:25.09 | JeffM | or perhaps he's lookuing at the smaler version of the icon |
| 19:25.13 | JeffM | or the 16 bit one |
| 19:25.22 | JeffM | we use the old one for some of the small and low res versions |
| 19:25.25 | JeffM | that's normal |
| 19:26.26 | JeffM | ts, so really it's not hindering your development at all |
| 19:27.06 | Chestal | JeffM: well, if you or he cares enough, you should talk directly :-) |
| 19:27.16 | JeffM | heh |
| 19:28.17 | JeffM | the icon hasn't changed in SVN since saturos made it |
| 19:32.11 | JeffM | yeah I'm talkin to him he has cache issues, he ran an older one today |
| 19:33.50 | JeffM | food time |
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| 19:38.07 | AHeinz | Is 2.0.10 OS X 10.5 compatible? |
| 19:38.19 | JeffM | depends what you mean |
| 19:38.34 | JeffM | if you mean will we build a binary that runs on 10.5, yes |
| 19:38.35 | AHeinz | Can I build a .app in 10.5? |
| 19:38.46 | JeffM | yes, if you use an older version of SDL |
| 19:38.59 | JeffM | the current version of SDL has a problem in 10.5 |
| 19:39.02 | JeffM | so you have to go back one |
| 19:39.04 | AHeinz | Ah, okay. |
| 19:39.14 | JeffM | the bin we make will be a universal that works in 10.5 |
| 19:39.30 | AHeinz | Any ETA on that? |
| 19:39.30 | JeffM | we have a beta for the last RC posted untill we get the final one done |
| 19:39.34 | JeffM | when it's done |
| 19:39.37 | AHeinz | K. |
| 19:39.39 | JeffM | building on the mac is not trivial |
| 19:39.48 | AHeinz | I know, I'll be patient. |
| 19:39.50 | JeffM | you can use the .10RC3 |
| 19:39.55 | JeffM | there is no functional dif |
| 19:40.05 | JeffM | http://beta.bzflag.bz/builds/2.0.x/MacOSX/ |
| 19:40.14 | JeffM | the 10.4 one should run fine on 10.5 |
| 19:40.26 | AHeinz | Thanks. |
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| 20:06.45 | I_Died_Once | so whats next?? 2.0.12 ??? |
| 20:08.04 | Winny | hehe |
| 20:08.07 | Winny | 2.0.2000! |
| 20:36.01 | blast007 | JeffM: and yes, I have my server list cache set to "Off / Backup Mode" |
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| 20:58.16 | TD-Linux | I hope 2.2 is next |
| 21:06.16 | Winny | haha... |
| 21:06.19 | Winny | "Aww, all right sorry. Sad I don't usually read rules unless they seem important... " |
| 21:06.23 | JeffM | blast007, I found it and fixed it |
| 21:06.25 | Winny | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=117258#117258 |
| 21:06.36 | blast007 | ok |
| 21:07.44 | brlcad | heh |
| 21:08.06 | Winny | JeffM: the wrath of the delete?: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11758 |
| 21:08.43 | JeffM | we odn't need to see tons of pictures of crap z buffers |
| 21:08.50 | JeffM | it's as bad as a poll |
| 21:09.19 | JeffM | ahh yeah soory |
| 21:09.33 | Winny | that guy seems to like posting nothing but links |
| 21:09.40 | JeffM | indeed |
| 21:18.22 | TD-Linux | JeffM, looking into ogre more, it's looking better |
| 21:18.49 | JeffM | it is not bad code |
| 21:19.37 | brlcad | ogre good *grunt* |
| 21:19.50 | Winny | heh, brlcad |
| 21:20.09 | JeffM | for bzflag, OSG should be at least evaluated as well |
| 21:29.52 | JeffM | brlcad, bot been ok? |
| 21:31.17 | brlcad | JeffM: maybe you can explain to me how the target and info params and BaseIRCCommandInfo are supposed to work this weekend :) |
| 21:31.48 | brlcad | I spent a couple hours last night trying (and miserably failing) to fix something :) |
| 21:32.07 | brlcad | yeah, it's been running great |
| 21:32.21 | brlcad | a few more channels were asking |
| 21:32.34 | brlcad | shame scanline doesn't capitalize on that bad boy better |
| 21:33.40 | brlcad | they did exchange some discussions when ohloh first went on-line |
| 21:33.54 | JeffM | there dosn't seem to be too muchoverlap |
| 21:33.59 | brlcad | basically saying that their fundamental purposes were different and that they weren't going to try |
| 21:34.03 | JeffM | ahh |
| 21:34.14 | JeffM | I think they would complement each other quite well |
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| 21:34.18 | brlcad | (on both theirs and his side) |
| 21:34.26 | brlcad | it's in their forums |
| 21:34.37 | brlcad | some user made some comment and they both chimed in |
| 21:35.23 | brlcad | it it's not cpu intensive, I'd offer up .bz to it, but I have a feeling it's a bit of a cpu pig for some reason :) |
| 21:36.03 | brlcad | server in europe could probably handle it cpu- wise |
| 22:03.07 | L4m3r | have the API docs been dropped from the source tree? |
| 22:03.41 | JeffM | yes |
| 22:03.45 | JeffM | wiki ftw |
| 22:03.57 | L4m3r | they don't seem to be set up 100% on the wiki |
| 22:04.02 | L4m3r | unless I'm missing something |
| 22:04.11 | JeffM | they have the same info that the sources had IIRC |
| 22:04.21 | JeffM | I mean the docs in the soruces had |
| 22:05.03 | blast007 | worst case, it's a wiki... fix it ;) |
| 22:05.31 | L4m3r | most of the individual events do not have pages :| |
| 22:05.44 | L4m3r | and it's rather difficult to fill them in without the original docs, heh |
| 22:06.03 | blast007 | L4m3r: they're still in SVN... |
| 22:06.13 | blast007 | that's the great part about version control |
| 22:06.17 | blast007 | you can get stuff back if you need it |
| 22:06.21 | L4m3r | when were they dropped? |
| 22:06.29 | blast007 | recently |
| 22:06.30 | L4m3r | obviously the most recent version would be idea |
| 22:06.34 | L4m3r | ideal* |
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| 22:08.06 | blast007 | revision 16115 |
| 22:08.14 | blast007 | http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/plugins/doc/?pathrev=16115 |
| 22:08.18 | JeffM | well lets get em filled in then |
| 22:08.30 | JeffM | should not be too hard to copy and paste it up |
| 22:09.38 | L4m3r | oh, and there seems to be a minor inconsistency in the API |
| 22:10.06 | L4m3r | the enum has an event called bz_eGetWorldEvent when the rest of the header uses bz_eGenerateWorldEvent |
| 22:10.17 | L4m3r | like, for the event data |
| 22:11.08 | JeffM | fix it for trunk |
| 22:11.21 | JeffM | 2.0.x has tons of inconsistencies :) |
| 22:12.42 | L4m3r | >_< |
| 22:24.21 | CIA-MIA | libirc: 03JeffM2501 * r334 10/trunk/libirc/examples/stupidBot/src/stupidBot.cpp: use the welcome message to start the throttled channel joins, it's better then end MOTD |
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| 22:53.54 | Constitution | JeffM: update packages? |
| 22:54.10 | JeffM | yeah |
| 22:54.20 | JeffM | 3 small changes |
| 22:54.25 | Constitution | ah |
| 22:54.37 | JeffM | techincaly only affect windows, but it's good to have the sources be the same as the tag |
| 22:54.47 | JeffM | the tag in svn is updated with the changes. |
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| 22:55.09 | Constitution | alright |
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| 23:16.42 | CIA-MIA | libirc: 03JeffM2501 * r335 10/trunk/libirc/ (12 files in 7 dirs): start a static lib to consolidate the IRC bot logic into a more manageable class. |
| 23:18.54 | Macrosoft | anyone else play bz on an intel graphics card? |
| 23:19.03 | a_meteorite | GMA 950 on Mac OS X |
| 23:19.08 | a_meteorite | Works great |
| 23:19.30 | Macrosoft | ...having trouble with drivers |
| 23:19.40 | a_meteorite | Linux, Windows? |
| 23:19.45 | Macrosoft | linux |
| 23:19.53 | a_meteorite | You got the drivers? |
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| 23:20.07 | Macrosoft | 2 of them |
| 23:20.24 | a_meteorite | You can only use one driver at a time, try 1... |
| 23:20.33 | Macrosoft | im only using one |
| 23:20.34 | spldart | yeesh |
| 23:21.17 | Macrosoft | it sort of works when it feels like it |
| 23:22.49 | a_meteorite | Did you check to make sure direct rendering is working? |
| 23:22.52 | a_meteorite | glxinfo |
| 23:23.14 | spldart | | grep direct |
| 23:23.16 | spldart | hehe |
| 23:23.59 | Macrosoft | output: http://pastebin.ca/777697 |
| 23:25.10 | spldart | I assume you have the driver module, drm, agpgart (if applicable) etc all loaded? |
| 23:25.38 | Macrosoft | dont know, will lsmod tell me? |
| 23:25.41 | spldart | yes |
| 23:25.45 | Macrosoft | ok |
| 23:25.51 | JeffM | yeah your driver isn't setup |
| 23:26.22 | JeffM | you will only be disapointed with onboard |
| 23:27.05 | Macrosoft | yeah, i have other cards, but gutsy gibbon barfs on multple display |
| 23:28.11 | Macrosoft | lsmod output http://pastebin.ca/777734 |
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| 23:29.50 | spldart | why you have vesafb loaded |
| 23:29.55 | Macrosoft | this looks like what you were talking about "agpgart 35400 2 intel_agp" |
| 23:29.56 | spldart | umm |
| 23:30.27 | spldart | I might be over my head... but is X using another driver on your vid render..? |
| 23:30.50 | spldart | vesafb |
| 23:31.01 | a_meteorite | So far all my attempts at 3D acceleration in Linux have failed. I know how to detect it, but couldn't figure out how to make it work. |
| 23:31.10 | a_meteorite | *but can't |
| 23:31.17 | Tupone | Macrosoft: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log or pastebin it entirely |
| 23:31.31 | spldart | don't see drm dri whateva |
| 23:31.55 | spldart | What Tupone said.. I don't see all that is necessary for 3d in your lsmod |
| 23:32.25 | Macrosoft | http://pastebin.ca/777742 |
| 23:32.38 | spldart | I've spent more time figuring 3d on some machines than iptables a_meteorite.. and that's saying something |
| 23:33.36 | a_meteorite | iptables is easy |
| 23:33.38 | a_meteorite | :) |
| 23:33.48 | spldart | Get that Xorg.0.log tupone mentioned.... that is goin to help alot |
| 23:34.00 | Macrosoft | xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/777742 |
| 23:34.09 | spldart | Meh > a_meteorite |
| 23:34.26 | spldart | oopsy.. you already posted that |
| 23:34.34 | Tupone | well, I asked for Xorg.0.log |
| 23:34.35 | Macrosoft | doh! |
| 23:34.37 | spldart | hehe |
| 23:34.53 | spldart | iptables is cryptic to me :( |
| 23:37.11 | Macrosoft | log: http://pastebin.ca/777748 |
| 23:37.35 | Constitution | SF source packages are updated |
| 23:38.20 | JeffM | thank you sir |
| 23:38.20 | Constitution | np |
| 23:41.39 | spldart | why is nvidia mentioned on the xorg log? I thought this was ms vid chipset??? I'm over my head a touch at this moment |
| 23:42.00 | Macrosoft | i think the log goes pretty far back |
| 23:42.29 | Macrosoft | i was using an nvidia card until i upgraded to gutsy gibbon |
| 23:42.43 | spldart | I thought it was fresh @ every boot |
| 23:42.46 | spldart | hrm |
| 23:43.26 | Tupone | do you have any other log there? like the Xorg.1.log . Maybe you can check the date |
| 23:44.35 | Macrosoft | several, which one should i post |
| 23:44.36 | Macrosoft | ? |
| 23:44.43 | spldart | newest?? |
| 23:44.50 | spldart | :) |
| 23:44.57 | Macrosoft | that was the newest |
| 23:44.59 | spldart | xorg.0.log should be it |
| 23:45.11 | spldart | I'm confuzled... |
| 23:45.14 | spldart | sry |
| 23:45.57 | Tupone | hmm, maybe you can try to do Xorg -configure and repost the new log. You have to stop X before thought |
| 23:46.57 | Macrosoft | i think ive tried something like that before, but it crashes on probing |
| 23:47.46 | Macrosoft | is there a way to kill X and droip to a terminal without restarting? |
| 23:47.51 | Macrosoft | *drop |
| 23:47.58 | JeffM | controll alt backspace |
| 23:48.26 | Macrosoft | no, that always brings me back to the login on X |
| 23:48.26 | Tupone | Macrosoft: what distro again? |
| 23:48.30 | Macrosoft | ubuntu |
| 23:48.35 | JeffM | Macrosoft, becaus that kills X |
| 23:48.39 | JeffM | then gdb restarts X |
| 23:48.45 | JeffM | you have to kill GDB first |
| 23:48.47 | Tupone | killall gdm |
| 23:48.50 | JeffM | that's it gdm |
| 23:48.52 | JeffM | :) |
| 23:48.58 | Tupone | or gdm-binary |
| 23:49.31 | spldart | ctrl alt f1???? or is that wrong too |
| 23:49.37 | JeffM | that dosn't kill X |
| 23:49.41 | spldart | ah |
| 23:49.43 | JeffM | that chagnes to another display |
| 23:49.48 | spldart | Oh yeah |
| 23:49.49 | JeffM | basicly swaping pages |
| 23:50.09 | Macrosoft | brb... killing X |
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| 23:54.38 | Macrosoft | nah, didnt work |
| 23:55.25 | Tupone | what did not work? |
| 23:55.27 | spldart | bbl |
| 23:55.59 | Macrosoft | the config "Xorg -configure" made didnt work |
| 23:56.11 | Tupone | and ? you have the log ? |
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| 23:56.47 | Tupone | how did you test it? |
| 23:57.15 | Macrosoft | X -config /root/xorg.conf.new |
| 23:57.29 | Tupone | and ? what happened? |
| 23:57.33 | Macrosoft | thats where Xorg said it stored the new one |
| 23:57.54 | Macrosoft | or something like that, i dont remember the entire path |
| 23:58.05 | Tupone | yeahm the path is correct |
| 23:58.39 | Tupone | but ? |
| 23:59.09 | Macrosoft | i remember getting some "resource 0x<something> is out of range" and the word vbios was somewhere in all that |
| 23:59.34 | Tupone | The graphic screen get displayed? |
| 23:59.37 | Macrosoft | nope |
| 23:59.56 | Tupone | nothing about the mouse? |