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00:09.58 | eTangenT | wait |
00:10.08 | eTangenT | Jeff, why is your forum account different? |
00:10.21 | JeffM | ? |
00:10.32 | eTangenT | you're missing your digits, too :o |
00:12.10 | Winny | 2501 exploded |
00:12.23 | JeffM | no |
00:12.57 | eTangenT | ~lart Winny |
00:12.57 | ibot | sends a legion of lawyers after Winny's head |
00:13.01 | eTangenT | oof |
00:13.02 | eTangenT | ouch |
00:13.06 | eTangenT | that looks painful, Winny |
00:13.39 | Winny | naaa |
00:14.13 | eTangenT | darn. |
00:14.19 | eTangenT | ~bzfrag Winny |
00:14.33 | ibot | ACTION makes Winny feel the effects of a shockwave |
00:14.38 | Winny | smeh |
00:14.49 | eTangenT | Betcha didn't have your SH ready, did you? |
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00:16.01 | Winny | Oh, I did |
00:16.55 | Erroneous | ~bzfrag eTangenT |
00:16.56 | ibot | ACTION skewers eTangenT with a super bullet |
00:17.11 | JeffM | I just changed my name that is all |
00:17.56 | JeffM | I just changed my name that is all |
00:18.09 | JeffM | oops :) |
00:18.24 | donny_baker | oh, there was a little more than that to it ;) |
00:18.43 | JeffM | not as far as the name goes :) |
00:18.50 | JeffM | the name change happend after the other stuff |
00:20.06 | SpazzyMcGee | is '2501' just an arbitrary number? |
00:20.14 | Erroneous | nothing is arbitrary |
00:20.15 | JeffM | nope |
00:20.39 | SpazzyMcGee | birthdate? |
00:21.01 | SpazzyMcGee | house number? |
00:21.08 | JeffM | no |
00:21.13 | Erroneous | MMDD would be a very odd format for an american to write a date in :) |
00:21.17 | Winny | isn't it the name of a project or something? |
00:21.17 | Erroneous | err DDMM |
00:21.42 | Erroneous | bbbbut Epyon IS taken :P |
00:21.51 | SpazzyMcGee | I suppose, I'm english, i think that way, |
00:22.01 | Epyon | Erroneous :P |
00:22.06 | Epyon | Now it is :P |
00:22.07 | SpazzyMcGee | So, what's the attraction of 2501? |
00:22.13 | JeffM | it had meaning |
00:22.35 | JeffM | if I have to use a number in my name, I try to use that number |
00:23.00 | AAA_awright | Which the kidnapper of JeffM2501 saw no meaning in, and dropped it when taking over his identity |
00:23.00 | KTL | 2 fives or 1 ? |
00:23.18 | SpazzyMcGee | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2501 ? |
00:23.25 | Epyon | JeffM, I have it easier -- if all else fails, I can always use my own name as a nick/login -- never fails even in Poland :P |
00:23.38 | JeffM | somone is smart :) |
00:23.46 | KTL | aha the puppet master :) |
00:24.26 | Epyon | Yay, another abine freak ^_^ |
00:24.31 | SpazzyMcGee | heh |
00:25.02 | Epyon | anime* |
00:26.01 | KTL | and where does the newborn go from here? ... the net is vast and infinite |
00:26.24 | Winny | not infinite |
00:26.26 | Winny | :) |
00:27.00 | KTL | the series? |
00:27.04 | JeffM | indeed |
00:27.27 | SpazzyMcGee | Winny == pedant. |
00:27.36 | Winny | eh? |
00:27.47 | Winny | ~dict pedant |
00:28.18 | SpazzyMcGee | pedant |?pednt| noun: a person who is excessively concerned with minor details and rules or with displaying academic learning. |
00:29.20 | Winny | I see |
00:29.34 | SpazzyMcGee | winny: are you on your macbook? |
00:29.56 | Winny | it is next to me, but IRC is on the PC |
00:30.27 | Winny | whyy? |
00:30.58 | SpazzyMcGee | oh, well. Neat trick on OS X: Cmd-Ctrl-D brings up a little pop-up dictionary on a highlighted word. |
00:32.19 | Winny | cool, thanks |
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00:40.51 | KTL | z* |
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01:03.01 | KTL | z* |
01:03.10 | Winny | ... |
01:03.54 | KTL | my mouse is broken, my numlock is now my mouse, first thing to do tomorrow is getting a new mouse |
01:04.29 | Winny | hehe |
01:04.39 | Winny | you surley have another mouse? |
01:05.03 | KTL | i also consider buying a whole nest of cheap backup mouses |
01:05.12 | KTL | no i don't have another, they die so easy |
01:45.48 | Constitution | anyone interested in some old-time fun on overlord (shadowcat)? |
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03:34.22 | Noodleman | mmmmmm, smithwick's |
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03:41.42 | Noodleman | wegstar: wanna beeeeer? |
03:42.15 | wegstar | nah.. I wanna soda... |
03:42.35 | Noodleman | not even irish beeeeer? |
03:42.44 | wegstar | nope :) |
03:42.56 | Noodleman | ok, you're missing out then |
03:42.59 | Noodleman | your loss |
03:43.01 | Noodleman | :-) |
03:43.04 | wegstar | :P |
03:43.21 | Noodleman | you aren't under 21 are you? |
03:43.29 | Noodleman | wasn't trying to corrupt minors now :-P |
03:43.50 | wegstar | heh.. of course not :) |
03:54.03 | Pumpernickel | Hey, look... free beer! |
03:57.42 | Noodleman | Pumpernickel: ha, i've already drank it |
03:58.00 | Noodleman | not really, there's still almost a whole 6-pack left |
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04:44.39 | jude- | hello all |
04:45.20 | SportChick | hey jude- |
04:46.59 | SportChick | don't you DARE |
04:47.09 | SportChick | ~lart jude- |
04:47.09 | ibot | teaches jude- the basics, including how to RTM |
04:47.58 | jude- | suffice to say it was good :) |
04:51.13 | AAA_awright | ~jude- |
04:51.28 | AAA_awright | ... |
04:51.33 | AAA_awright | ~karma jude- |
04:51.33 | ibot | jude- has karma of 13 |
04:51.37 | AAA_awright | hm. |
04:51.42 | AAA_awright | ~karma AAA_awright |
04:51.42 | ibot | aaa_awright has neutral karma |
04:51.46 | AAA_awright | :p |
04:51.59 | jude- | wait--how did I get 13 karma? Last I checked, I only got two points |
04:52.16 | AAA_awright | oh! |
04:52.42 | aaa_awright-- | ~aaa_awright-- |
04:52.52 | aaa_awright-- | ~aaa_awright---- |
04:53.12 | aaa_awright-- | Aww. Ibot isn't as stupid now |
04:53.20 | jude- | lol |
04:53.41 | jude- | did it decrement karma points with that nick? |
04:53.44 | AAA_awright | No |
04:53.51 | AAA_awright | it needs four '-' |
04:53.59 | jude- | I mean, before? |
04:54.00 | AAA_awright | two for my nick, two for the deincrment |
04:54.16 | jude- | i.e. "Ibot isn't as stupid now"? |
04:54.46 | AAA_awright | Ibot isn't very smart sometimes |
04:54.50 | AAA_awright | i.e. |
04:54.53 | AAA_awright | ~shoot ibot |
04:54.55 | ibot | ACTION shoots ibot in the head with a quantum singularity weapon! |
04:55.06 | jude- | funny |
04:55.06 | AAA_awright | suicide. Nuf said. |
04:55.31 | jude- | and grammatically incorredt |
04:55.40 | jude- | s/incorredt/incorrect |
04:55.53 | AAA_awright | ~lart ibot |
04:55.53 | ibot | plops aaa_awright into a giant vat of herring |
04:55.59 | AAA_awright | Sometimes it isn't |
04:56.08 | jude- | lol |
04:56.08 | AAA_awright | Mmm.... herring |
04:56.44 | jude- | do you have to cut down the largest tree in the forest with them? |
04:57.30 | AAA_awright | Herring, the favorite food of Tux the penguin, I thought? |
04:57.47 | jude- | aww--no one got the Mony Python reference |
04:57.54 | jude- | s/Mony/Monty |
04:57.57 | AAA_awright | Which one? |
04:58.20 | jude- | "we demand...ANOTHER SHRUBBERY! And then, you must cut down the largest tree in the forest...WITH THIS HERRING!!" |
04:59.01 | jude- | (Knights of Nee) |
04:59.57 | jude- | (Monty Python and the Holy Grail) |
05:00.29 | jude- | okay, so I can't make jokes |
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05:06.00 | jude- | and yes, herring is the favorite food of Tux the penguin |
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13:29.38 | Benfish | what does this mean/why do i get it when i try to start a bz server?:) http://www.benfish.fishyhost.com/hmmm.txt |
13:29.56 | Benfish | config maps/whatever all in the right folders |
13:30.55 | brad | that appears to be wget and not bzfs ;) |
13:31.03 | brad | do ./bzfs -v |
13:31.26 | brad | that is really odd... |
13:31.49 | Benfish | it wasnt doing it yesterday... |
13:31.53 | Benfish | i'll try that :) |
13:33.05 | Benfish | ok.. i did ./bzfs -v and its doing the same |
13:33.51 | brad | is "bzfs" a script or the bzflag server binary? |
13:34.56 | Benfish | its the one from http://my.bzflag.org/w/Download GNU/Linux installer (i586) |
13:35.11 | Benfish | i would have no idea what to do with a binary/source :) |
13:35.29 | Benfish | that same download worked fine yesterday (and yes, i have tried re-downloading) |
13:37.11 | brad | hmm |
13:38.07 | brad | what distro are you using? |
13:38.19 | Benfish | now when i use the ./bzfs -conf config.conf command i get http://www.benfish.fishyhost.com/hmmm.JPG at the end of the pile of file download stuff |
13:38.45 | Benfish | centos |
13:39.11 | Benfish | or.. centos 4.5 if you need that bit |
13:40.32 | Benfish | i just dont understand why its doing that today, when it worked fine yesterday |
13:40.55 | brad | did you not change anything? |
13:41.07 | Benfish | nope.. |
13:41.12 | brad | maybe someone else did? |
13:41.17 | Benfish | and im the only one who can |
13:41.34 | Benfish | doubt my vps provider would do anything :) |
13:42.41 | brad | :S |
13:43.28 | Benfish | i guess chmod permission things: 755 is right? |
13:43.41 | brad | that should be fine |
13:46.06 | Benfish | ive tried to start the bz server as root and as the account owner, same outcome for both |
13:48.00 | Benfish | do you recognise any of the.. *stuff* its trying to wget? or is that just random.. *stuff*? o.O |
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13:48.58 | brad | it seems to be oblisk stuff.. |
13:50.16 | Benfish | guess it would help quite a bit if i knew what i was doing (completely) |
13:50.48 | Benfish | but it worked yesterday, do i must have been doing it right then |
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14:27.30 | Benfish | but i did nothing different today... and changed nothing overnight (since i was sleeping :P) |
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14:52.57 | Benfish | so confusing :( |
14:56.48 | donny_baker | can you post your config file minus the -password to pastebin... and what you get as output |
14:57.14 | donny_baker | its a shot in the dark, but maybe.. |
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14:57.43 | Benfish | its pretty much the same config file as on the wiki |
14:58.00 | Benfish | just with changes (such as password) and #'s taken out |
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15:26.01 | Winny | ~lart lag |
15:26.01 | ibot | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at lag |
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17:49.55 | Benfish | ;o |
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18:04.25 | Daveman | Hello bizflog :P |
18:22.54 | SportChick | yay |
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19:22.28 | JeffM | specualr highlights are fun :) |
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21:08.29 | Benfish | BZFS needs "mesa"? |
21:11.21 | KTL | if you get other opengl apps working then also bzflag |
21:12.09 | KTL | packages with glx in the name are interesting to get |
21:12.15 | KTL | 3d acceleration working |
21:12.33 | KTL | in my debian a command called glxinfo tells me if it is there or not |
21:13.26 | JeffM | yes the server needs GL |
21:13.27 | JeffM | the collision code includes it |
21:13.55 | KTL | ... is that necessary? that makes removing gl more difficult |
21:14.12 | JeffM | ir'a just the way it was done |
21:14.21 | Benfish | any idea why the server would have worked yesterday, but today it asks for loads of... "libraries"? |
21:14.22 | JeffM | no gl calls are mde |
21:14.29 | DTRemenak | that should not be true right now |
21:14.37 | DTRemenak | unless you added something pretty recently |
21:14.46 | JeffM | Benfish, you probably upgraded part of your OS, and didn't rebuld/upgrade BZ |
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21:15.16 | Benfish | i have re-downloaded+uploaded from the site |
21:16.30 | JeffM | did you build from source? or use a package? |
21:16.32 | KTL | using a tool made for it? i don't know the centos package manager |
21:17.13 | Benfish | i downloaded it from the site (not the source) so the package i.. think |
21:17.30 | JeffM | what "the site"? |
21:17.56 | Benfish | the download page on the bz wiki :) |
21:17.57 | Benfish | http://my.bzflag.org/w/Download |
21:18.13 | KTL | it is healthier for your system to use the package manager it has ... then you just select "i want this and this" and the program downloads everything automatically from the online repositories for your distribution |
21:18.29 | JeffM | and what file did you download? |
21:19.02 | Benfish | the paragraph starting with GNU/Linux installer (i586) under 2.0.8 stable |
21:19.24 | JeffM | that isn't ours |
21:19.37 | JeffM | what linux distro do you use? |
21:19.54 | Benfish | centos |
21:21.01 | JeffM | do they have a bzflag package? |
21:21.01 | KTL | it is redhat based (wikipedia told me) |
21:21.01 | catay | probably not, it's an Redhat entreprise 'clone' |
21:21.01 | JeffM | then no they don't |
21:21.01 | catay | *enterprise |
21:21.01 | JeffM | Benfish, it's best for you to probably build from the sources |
21:21.13 | JeffM | ether that or you'll have to contact the author of that "installer" |
21:21.21 | KTL | is the difference that drastic between the enterprise version and the normal ? |
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21:21.53 | SportChick | brlcad: you around? |
21:21.56 | Benfish | ok, i'll try building from the sources :) |
21:22.04 | Benfish | thanks |
21:22.10 | JeffM | you will need to install a number of development packages |
21:22.16 | JeffM | SDL, glx, etc.. |
21:22.24 | JeffM | there is a readme in the source that should help you |
21:23.09 | KTL | the 3d acceleration wont be necessary for just the server i hope |
21:23.32 | donny_baker | Benfish: you'll want the 2.0.x branch... details here http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN |
21:23.32 | AAA_awright | no |
21:24.41 | JeffM | no gl calls are made by the server |
21:24.47 | JeffM | it just included the headers |
21:24.49 | catay | KTL: not really, you only have to pay for it :) |
21:24.51 | JeffM | so it needs the sources |
21:25.07 | KTL | then why does it include the headers? |
21:25.19 | KTL | if it does not use them |
21:25.20 | JeffM | because the same code is used on the client |
21:25.24 | JeffM | and that calls GL |
21:25.29 | JeffM | the obstacle manager |
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21:25.38 | JeffM | the use of it in the server dosn't draw |
21:25.43 | JeffM | the use in the client does. |
21:25.45 | KTL | can a bit of preprocessor code not avoid that? |
21:25.48 | JeffM | yes |
21:25.52 | JeffM | lots of things CAN be done |
21:25.56 | JeffM | but they simply HAVE NOT |
21:26.31 | JeffM | it's not that way cus of any need,it 's just that way cus that's how it was done |
21:26.37 | JeffM | and noone has gone in to change it |
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21:57.40 | Benfish | hehe... i built from the sources and now can't find the bzfs file |
22:00.20 | a_meteorite | Benfish: src/bzfs/bzfs |
22:00.34 | a_meteorite | if you make install, and didn't set a prefix with configure, it's at /usr/local/bin/bzfs |
22:01.09 | Benfish | thanks :) |
22:05.10 | Benfish | ok, i have uploaded the config file (basicly the one from the wiki, modified) and it says: bad argument "-vetoTime" |
22:05.51 | a_meteorite | that's not an argument :) |
22:06.00 | Benfish | surely thats right, if it was in the copyable version in the wiki? hmm |
22:06.17 | a_meteorite | someone who had no idea probably put that there, or that's for 2.1 |
22:06.28 | Benfish | so put a # infront, and try again? |
22:06.42 | a_meteorite | checking mine |
22:08.54 | Benfish | <PROTECTED> |
22:08.54 | Benfish | # This specifies the number of seconds in which a poll can be vetoed. |
22:08.54 | Benfish | -vetoTime 60 |
22:08.59 | Benfish | is what it says in my config |
22:10.49 | Benfish | http://my.bzflag.org/w/Sample_conf is where i got it from :) (i have edited the bits i need to edit) |
22:14.17 | donny_baker | i don't think you really need -vetoTime, i don't beleive we have it and I veto polls quite regularly |
22:14.48 | Benfish | so comment it out and see if it works? |
22:15.43 | donny_baker | yes... we use VETO in the group permission file |
22:16.01 | Benfish | now it says bad argument "-votePercentage" |
22:16.17 | brlcad | vetoTime is a valid option |
22:16.30 | brlcad | as is votePercentage |
22:16.39 | brlcad | maybe it's trying to tell you something... |
22:16.58 | brlcad | just not very clearly apparently |
22:18.47 | Benfish | ok, so why is it saying valid options are invalid? (because i have no idea ;) ) |
22:19.27 | donny_baker | brlcad: would starting it with -ddd help give some clues? |
22:20.21 | brlcad | donny_baker: depends on which one he messed up :) |
22:20.33 | brlcad | Benfish: look at the lines preceeding -vetoTime |
22:20.50 | brlcad | there's probably a mistake somewhat near it, before it |
22:20.57 | brlcad | something missing |
22:21.38 | donny_baker | Benfish: a good way to see is comment out everything except what is absolutely neccessary |
22:21.55 | Benfish | if there is, there must be an error here http://my.bzflag.org/w/Sample_conf because everything near that is exactly the same |
22:21.58 | donny_baker | and the enable them one at a time as the server starts correctly |
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22:22.37 | donny_baker | could be wrong... it is editable by everyone, so an error may have been introduced |
22:22.38 | brlcad | Benfish: i said probably near it, not necessarily.. it's just preceeding it "somewhere" -- it could even be on the invocation line |
22:23.27 | brlcad | and you had to edit that sample regardless -- more than likely, there will be your mistake |
22:24.08 | brlcad | could be there is something wrong in the sample, but it's the same process for finding it |
22:27.35 | brlcad | sample worked for me, after commenting out the -a option |
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22:41.44 | eTangenT | hmmm |
22:41.53 | eTangenT | I never listened to Rammstein before |
22:41.56 | eTangenT | this is really cool stuff |
22:44.16 | Pumpernickel | You understand the lyrics? |
22:44.34 | eTangenT | Not at all. |
22:44.37 | eTangenT | I speak English and Spanish. |
22:44.40 | eTangenT | Not German. |
22:44.53 | eTangenT | The music's cool though. Makes me wanna blow something up (in BZFlag, that is) |
22:45.23 | Pumpernickel | ^^ |
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22:58.41 | Tech_Support | hi all |
22:58.46 | donny_baker | hola |
22:59.25 | Tech_Support | i just got DSL on this really old Thinkpad and i'm happy |
23:00.25 | Tech_Support | i have to go |
23:00.27 | Tech_Support | bye all |
23:02.22 | Winny | ....come again soon? |
23:02.38 | ruskie | erm |
23:02.44 | ruskie | what was that all about |
23:06.58 | KTL | rammm...stein! |
23:07.43 | Winny | chee....se! |
23:09.53 | KTL | the band is named to this event: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Etar_280888.jpg , with lots of casualties in the public |
23:11.19 | catay | I've seen them live a couple of years ago :) |
23:11.29 | catay | they have a very impressive show |
23:11.40 | KTL | lots of fire |
23:11.40 | catay | KTL: at Werchter :) |
23:11.50 | catay | yeah |
23:11.51 | KTL | aha well i was looking through the fence ... |
23:12.13 | KTL | they were singing "AMERIKAAA" |
23:13.43 | catay | I've seen them in 2002 .. time goes by so fast |
23:14.22 | KTL | ok then i was not around |
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23:27.50 | JonathanD | could my gun firing randomly somehow be caused by an odd/laggy connection? |
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23:32.53 | ruskie | JonathanD, what do you mean randomly? |
23:36.19 | CBG | When he doesn't press a fire button, I'd guess. |
23:36.29 | JonathanD | my gun fires when my hand isn't even on the mouse. |
23:36.42 | KTL | maybe the mouse itself is a bit crazy |
23:36.44 | JonathanD | this only happens in BZ, and only happens when I am on my wireless |
23:37.06 | KTL | i had a mouse once that reported mouseclicks when it was on for too long |
23:37.24 | JonathanD | I play other mouse-triggered games, no issue on those. |
23:39.36 | JonathanD | wheee, I just got a tk cause of this :p |
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23:47.04 | a_meteorite | ~bz20svn |
23:47.22 | ibot | somebody said bz20svn was http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN and svn co https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/branches/v2_0branch/ bzflag |
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