| 00:00.30 | brlcad | JeffM2501: yeah, that'd be ideal -- refactored, not hacked ;) |
| 00:06.36 | Winny | brlcad: I have a question |
| 00:07.35 | brlcad | Winny: I have lots of questions |
| 00:07.38 | Winny | today when I was playing, I went to pass the flag to the center by dropping it on the enemys base, and I saw it drop, and start to head back to the center, but then I capped it... |
| 00:08.03 | Winny | it was like the client had forgotten I had dropped the flag... |
| 00:08.42 | Winny | any idea why? |
| 00:08.52 | donny_baker | cheat client ;P |
| 00:09.00 | blast007 | hehe |
| 00:09.27 | blast007 | :D |
| 00:09.37 | donny_baker | oh, I said that out loud |
| 00:09.39 | Winny | I am using 2.0.9, dunno if that could have any effect |
| 00:10.19 | Think_Differentl | why must cyberduck crash while updating permissions? |
| 00:10.36 | a_meteorite | cause cyberduck isn't very stable? |
| 00:10.41 | a_meteorite | last night it timed out on me.. :\ |
| 00:10.57 | Winny | well.. any ideas? |
| 00:12.01 | Winny | *poke* |
| 00:12.05 | the_j0k3r | lol |
| 00:12.15 | Think_Differentl | ~lart Winny |
| 00:12.15 | ibot | cats /dev/urandom into Winny's ear |
| 00:12.20 | Winny | smeh :( |
| 00:12.37 | the_j0k3r | what was your lag like? |
| 00:13.07 | Winny | about 220ish |
| 00:13.15 | Think_Differentl | that could be why |
| 00:13.22 | Think_Differentl | packetloss? wireless? |
| 00:13.37 | the_j0k3r | if you had a spike and dropped it late... |
| 00:14.11 | Winny | but it was weird, cause I saw it start to go back |
| 00:14.11 | Winny | :\ |
| 00:14.31 | Think_Differentl | was it a euro server? |
| 00:14.54 | Winny | yeah, german |
| 00:15.03 | Think_Differentl | could've been that the client thought that it should go back, but the server contradicted because of lag |
| 00:15.55 | Winny | hm |
| 00:19.11 | brlcad | Winny: er, bug of some sort |
| 00:19.34 | brlcad | half-dropped state while the flag is zooping back |
| 00:20.32 | Winny | ok, thanks |
| 00:21.21 | brlcad | se if you can reproduce it on an empty server |
| 00:21.36 | brlcad | er, half-empty.. whatever it takes but something reproducible |
| 00:21.51 | brlcad | if you can, then post the details in a report |
| 00:21.58 | Winny | should I do it on a server that records? |
| 00:21.59 | brlcad | that'll help debug it |
| 00:22.17 | brlcad | "whatever it takes but something reproducible" |
| 00:22.34 | brlcad | see if you can narrow down exactly when it happens |
| 00:22.42 | Winny | ok |
| 00:23.06 | Winny | Ill do that tommorow |
| 00:30.31 | bryjen | something odd on badgerking's server earlier, (UNKNOWN) was sending messages consisting of random numbers. one number per line in rapid succession. |
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| 00:34.13 | lodxcol | it's happening again right now |
| 00:34.24 | bryjen | argh |
| 00:34.44 | brlcad | CBG: really nice normandy map |
| 00:35.19 | CBG | brlcad thanks, but spaz deserves more credit than me |
| 00:35.39 | brlcad | rather creative layout |
| 00:35.48 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, yeah, gonna do a drawable class that is passed in and called |
| 00:36.00 | JeffM2501 | so the client can have the drawing, server will just have a null pointer |
| 00:36.14 | brlcad | nifty |
| 00:36.17 | JeffM2501 | then all the shot drawing is done in one shot |
| 00:36.29 | JeffM2501 | and we get rid of the "if (headless()) cruft in there |
| 00:36.43 | JeffM2501 | just want to make sure both you 2 were cool with that |
| 00:36.54 | JeffM2501 | then I got distracted by a plug-in :) |
| 00:37.01 | JeffM2501 | and a comic strip |
| 00:37.03 | CBG | well, the layout was mostly my department... spaz made most of the actual objects. I made a few and placed them all, plus world weapons, etc in the world in TextEdit |
| 00:37.15 | CBG | but I'd say the work was 60:40 with him doing the most. I'd take most credit for actually running the server though :P |
| 00:38.16 | Constitution | CBG: your server seems to run nicely with minimal lag; what kind of connection do you have it on, if you don't mind me asking? |
| 00:38.47 | CBG | iirc, it's on a 10Mbps Uplink |
| 00:38.58 | a_meteorite | in ohio |
| 00:39.05 | Constitution | ah, cool |
| 00:39.21 | Constitution | same server as you run shadowcat & king of cans, etc. on? |
| 00:39.36 | CBG | yep, plus all the mofo and some norang servers. |
| 00:39.46 | CBG | all on one box, about $70/mo iirc. |
| 00:40.03 | Constitution | mm, not bad |
| 00:40.49 | KTL | it's about the normandy map? |
| 00:42.35 | the_j0k3r | how much would upgrading my internet even take off my lag? im on... about i think 1 or 2 mbps now... upgrading to around 10 (site advertises 24 but... i doubt it) |
| 00:44.01 | a_meteorite | if you're in australia, that won't help much |
| 00:44.05 | bryjen | your pipe may not be the problem |
| 00:44.08 | a_meteorite | bandwidth has no impact on latency |
| 00:44.14 | bryjen | ah, yeah, its that ocean thingy ;) |
| 00:45.28 | the_j0k3r | you mean the the thousands of kilometres dividing the countries? yeah... i think that has a little effect on it :P |
| 00:47.18 | the_j0k3r | is there somewhere i can get a generic conf file for hix? or do i just make it up as i go along |
| 00:47.30 | a_meteorite | the speed of light is still not fast enough in some cases |
| 00:48.00 | Winny | brlcad plays BZFlag? :o |
| 00:48.21 | KTL | (and under what callsign??) |
| 00:48.34 | Winny | probably Learner |
| 00:48.40 | Winny | or, whatever it is :p |
| 00:50.54 | brlcad | jeesh, that shows how much I need to show my face on the field a little more often on more than one server |
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| 01:01.41 | bryjen | i thought it was fixed that (unknown) couldn't send chat messages. or does that require removing talk permission from the everyone group? |
| 01:02.06 | lodxcol | it's fixed in 2.0.9 |
| 01:02.44 | lodxcol | 2.0.9 svn code disallows messages from players that haven't fully joined yet |
| 01:02.45 | JeffM2501 | you have subvesion code bryjen ? |
| 01:02.49 | lodxcol | have badgerking upgrade |
| 01:03.03 | JeffM2501 | yeah a number of servers didn't upgrade it seems |
| 01:08.06 | brlcad | pwd |
| 01:11.27 | CBG | /Users/brlcad/in/wrong/window :P |
| 01:12.24 | Constitution | lol |
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| 01:37.44 | JBdiGriz | 2.0.9 is also causing some problems with bzfs kicking players for moving too fast a little too often. cosmos upgraded, but then went back to a previous version. |
| 01:38.26 | Think_Differentl | Ok |
| 01:38.29 | Think_Differentl | i've got a question |
| 01:38.35 | a_meteorite | shoot |
| 01:38.48 | Think_Differentl | How do you strech bzflag over 2 monitors in osx |
| 01:39.15 | Epyon | JBdiGriz, I get kicked like every 20 minutes for that on hepcat :| |
| 01:39.35 | Epyon | Playing on the keyboard only though. |
| 01:39.57 | JBdiGriz | Not anymore, he downgraded the version. |
| 01:40.09 | Constitution | Think_Different1: have you looked into the -view option? |
| 01:40.17 | Think_Differentl | yes. |
| 01:40.25 | Think_Differentl | I've tried view stereo |
| 01:40.34 | a_meteorite | stacked? |
| 01:40.38 | a_meteorite | try em all :) |
| 01:40.57 | the_j0k3r | met |
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| 01:41.10 | a_meteorite | yes |
| 01:41.22 | the_j0k3r | didnt you once say you modified laser so it could go through walls? |
| 01:41.36 | a_meteorite | yes |
| 01:41.43 | the_j0k3r | how? lol |
| 01:41.46 | Think_Differentl | maybe tim could help |
| 01:41.48 | a_meteorite | set _laserAdVel to some extreme insane value |
| 01:42.00 | the_j0k3r | i set it to 1000000 just then and it still didnt work :P |
| 01:42.07 | a_meteorite | higher |
| 01:42.15 | the_j0k3r | or are we talking in the bill/trillions |
| 01:42.26 | a_meteorite | yes |
| 01:42.29 | blast007 | gazillion! |
| 01:42.30 | the_j0k3r | ok |
| 01:42.33 | the_j0k3r | thanks ;) |
| 01:42.56 | JeffM2501 | JBdiGriz, is it the distance check during teleporting? |
| 01:43.31 | Think_Differentl | a_meteorite: any ideas? |
| 01:43.53 | a_meteorite | no, I only have one monitor |
| 01:43.55 | Think_Differentl | I was thinking JeffM2501 would know because he runs a dual screen setup. |
| 01:44.24 | JeffM2501 | the only times I've done it is using twinview in span mode |
| 01:44.33 | JeffM2501 | or in a window with big geo |
| 01:44.42 | JeffM2501 | I run 2 cards, so spaning is not so good |
| 01:44.57 | Think_Differentl | how do you do twinview in span mode |
| 01:45.06 | JeffM2501 | on a mac, you don't |
| 01:45.10 | Think_Differentl | oh. |
| 01:45.11 | Think_Differentl | :/ |
| 01:45.48 | purple_cow | bzflag isn't exactly multi-head friendly |
| 01:45.52 | purple_cow | unless you've got 3 montiors |
| 01:46.02 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 01:46.02 | purple_cow | having the targetting box in between two monitors kind of sucks |
| 01:46.13 | JeffM2501 | trust me, it blows |
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| 01:49.55 | CIA-17 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r14079 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: force speed checks to log only if _forceSpeedChecksToLog is set |
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| 01:50.23 | JeffM2501 | there :) |
| 01:50.32 | TheRedBaron | orchid: ping |
| 01:51.32 | TheRedBaron | orchid: I suspect your ducati server needs updating. It still allows the unkown spam hack/bug/exploit |
| 01:51.46 | the_j0k3r | hmm. |
| 01:52.06 | the_j0k3r | i made the laser go through walls. its a shame you cant make it short-range, but still go through walls |
| 01:52.10 | CIA-17 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r14080 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsPlayerStateVerify.cxx: force speed checks to log only if _forceSpeedChecksToLog is set |
| 01:52.32 | JeffM2501 | the_j0k3r, that's called a shockwave :) |
| 01:52.38 | a_meteorite | you can make it short-range.. |
| 01:52.46 | a_meteorite | oh, wait, no not both at the same time |
| 01:52.46 | the_j0k3r | :P |
| 01:53.07 | the_j0k3r | yeah, laseradvel is what is used to make it short in the first place |
| 01:53.32 | blast007 | you should just make the laser have a negative velocity ;) |
| 01:53.53 | the_j0k3r | lol, i did that. st was very surprised when i fired :P |
| 01:54.53 | the_j0k3r | there was a bug i saw the other day with lser |
| 01:54.55 | the_j0k3r | *lser |
| 01:54.57 | the_j0k3r | *laser |
| 01:55.00 | the_j0k3r | :P |
| 01:55.05 | Constitution | JeffM2501: I think bzflag/plugins/configure.ac needs a line for Phoenix/Makefile |
| 01:55.36 | the_j0k3r | the person who fired the laser saw the laser dissapear, at the supposedly correct time. but all others saw the laser stay there, and it stayed for much longer |
| 01:55.38 | Constitution | in trunk, at least |
| 01:55.39 | TheRedBaron | where is bzadmin on mac OSX? |
| 01:55.49 | Constitution | BZFlag.app/Contents/MacOS/bzadmin |
| 01:56.00 | JBdiGriz | JeffM2501: This is on the pillbox map, no jumping, no flags besides team flags, and no teleporters. |
| 01:56.11 | CIA-17 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r14081 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/configure.ac: silly make systems.... |
| 01:56.39 | JeffM2501 | JBdiGriz, then that's when it thinks it can do the distnace checks and is often wrong |
| 01:56.47 | JeffM2501 | that var will let them set it to log only |
| 02:01.29 | JBdiGriz | I only looked briefly at the code. |
| 02:15.14 | blast007 | the_j0k3r: that's a known issue when you configure some weapon to have a lifetime longer than the reload time |
| 02:15.30 | blast007 | did the server had adjusted variables for the laser settings? |
| 02:15.55 | blast007 | or, could have been another issue... was there a laser showing out the main 3D view? |
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| 02:21.23 | the_j0k3r | yes, the vars were all messed around with laser |
| 02:35.52 | the_j0k3r | wow, these spammers are really annoying |
| 02:37.31 | JeffMFishBone | ether upgrade or install torblock |
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| 02:53.00 | longhair | anyone know how to kick a spammer who is coming in as (UNKNOWN) ? |
| 02:53.12 | longhair | if you want to sse what I mean,he's on hepcat right now |
| 02:53.49 | JeffMFishBone | yes |
| 02:53.58 | JeffMFishBone | upgrade the server to 2.0.9 |
| 02:54.02 | JeffMFishBone | or install torblock |
| 02:54.19 | longhair | ah, ok I'll pass it on to cosmos |
| 02:54.33 | longhair | anyone have superkill perms there? |
| 02:54.53 | TheRedBaron | longhair: you don't? |
| 02:55.00 | longhair | nah,I'm a lowly cop |
| 02:55.08 | dcat | does(did) the server allow anyone to bounce messages off of it? |
| 02:55.19 | JeffMFishBone | yes basicly |
| 02:55.19 | longhair | dcat: what do you mean? |
| 02:55.24 | JeffMFishBone | that's what we fixed in 2.0.9 |
| 02:55.29 | JeffMFishBone | longhair, it's a bug |
| 02:55.34 | dcat | ah ok |
| 02:55.37 | JeffMFishBone | that somone is exploiting |
| 02:55.42 | TheRedBaron | longhair: same here :( |
| 02:55.43 | JeffMFishBone | it was fixed a while ago |
| 02:55.50 | JeffMFishBone | a LONG while ago |
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| 03:07.17 | JeffMFishBone | brlcad or DTRemenak you got a better word then "drawable" |
| 03:07.27 | JeffMFishBone | specialy when it's going to play sounds too? |
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| 03:11.09 | JeffMFishBone | what version is your server on? |
| 03:11.14 | Tedius | 2.0 |
| 03:11.17 | JeffMFishBone | wow |
| 03:11.20 | Tedius | oops. 2.0.8 |
| 03:11.20 | JeffMFishBone | yeah that's old |
| 03:11.22 | JeffMFishBone | upgrade |
| 03:11.23 | JeffMFishBone | still |
| 03:11.25 | JeffMFishBone | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:11.30 | JeffMFishBone | 2.0.9 from current subversion |
| 03:11.38 | JeffMFishBone | and/or install torblock |
| 03:12.12 | Tedius | there is no way to ban someone using proxy? |
| 03:12.19 | JeffMFishBone | that's what torblock does |
| 03:12.30 | JeffMFishBone | bans them if they come in from the tor proxy network |
| 03:12.39 | Tedius | I see |
| 03:12.44 | JeffMFishBone | it uses the tor master list |
| 03:12.52 | JeffMFishBone | other then that we don't know it's a proxy |
| 03:13.07 | JeffMFishBone | but if you upgrade, the server won't let the chate messages come in |
| 03:13.11 | JeffMFishBone | untill they fully log in |
| 03:13.25 | JeffMFishBone | what OS you on? |
| 03:13.36 | Tedius | mac os 10.4 |
| 03:13.51 | JeffMFishBone | you'll need to build from source then |
| 03:13.54 | longhair | Tedius: welcome to th eclub :) |
| 03:14.29 | JeffMFishBone | the club of people who didn't see the posting in the forums about this issue last time it happened :) |
| 03:14.34 | Tedius | yeah, so i've heard |
| 03:14.43 | Tedius | oh |
| 03:15.47 | longhair | JeffMFishBone: must be :) |
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| 03:20.36 | longhair | good idea |
| 03:20.56 | JeffMFishBone | instead of gracef shouting that the sky is falling |
| 03:21.16 | Tedius | Thanks Jeff, I've heard that a few servers have been hit recently |
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| 03:21.30 | JeffMFishBone | yeah the ones that ignored it last time |
| 03:22.02 | emodirk | Hello all |
| 03:22.09 | JeffMFishBone | hello |
| 03:22.23 | emodirk | I have a quick question, if you dont' mind. |
| 03:22.24 | Tedius | In fact one server is being hit right now |
| 03:22.37 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffMFishBone -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9453 || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || http://fisheye1.cenqua.com/browse/bzflag/bzflag || New WIKI! http://my.bzflag.org/w/ || Migrated from CVS to SVN: http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN || GSoC 4 slots: http://my.bzflag.org/w/Google_Summer_of_Code#Program_Evaluation | if you are geting spa |
| 03:22.43 | JeffMFishBone | damn |
| 03:22.53 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffMFishBone -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9453 || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || http://fisheye1.cenqua.com/browse/bzflag/bzflag || New WIKI! http://my.bzflag.org/w/ || Migrated from CVS to SVN: http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN || GSoC 4 slots: http://my.bzflag.org/w/Google_Summer_of_Code#Program_Evaluation | upgrade or die |
| 03:22.55 | emodirk | lol, heck of a title :) |
| 03:23.32 | JeffMFishBone | what's your question emodirk |
| 03:23.56 | emodirk | Does the score always show? Is there a way to turn it off? |
| 03:24.01 | JeffMFishBone | S |
| 03:24.01 | blast007 | s |
| 03:24.27 | emodirk | Ok, so I have to do that everytime after I die? |
| 03:25.10 | JeffMFishBone | should stay |
| 03:25.15 | JeffMFishBone | or maybe there is a setting for it |
| 03:25.18 | JeffMFishBone | can't remember |
| 03:25.31 | DTRemenak | if you turn it off before you die, when you respawn it should turn itself back off |
| 03:25.43 | DTRemenak | it'll just be up while you're dead, iirc |
| 03:26.09 | DTRemenak | or I could be pullin' that outta somewhere |
| 03:26.47 | JeffMFishBone | DTRemenak, the drawable will play sounds, got a better name for it? |
| 03:26.53 | emodirk | In GUI setting there's an option for show team scores, hmm but it doesn't seem to work. I always see scores. |
| 03:27.23 | DTRemenak | JeffMFishBone: "stufftheserverdoesn'tneedtodo"? :) |
| 03:27.42 | JeffMFishBone | CStuffTheServerDosntNeedToDO |
| 03:27.52 | JeffMFishBone | CBoltStuffTheServerDosntNeedToDO |
| 03:27.53 | emodirk | K, I think I'll have to erase the preferences, and try once more. |
| 03:27.59 | DTRemenak | eww "C" |
| 03:28.28 | JeffMFishBone | heh |
| 03:28.31 | DTRemenak | ToInterface? :) |
| 03:28.33 | JeffMFishBone | got any other real name? |
| 03:28.43 | DTRemenak | RealHumanStuff? |
| 03:29.25 | JeffMFishBone | I'll just go with drawable |
| 03:29.30 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 03:29.33 | JeffMFishBone | makes the strats nice and small :) |
| 03:29.49 | JeffMFishBone | just calls drawable->move rico, and port |
| 03:30.01 | bryjen | DoAble ? ;) |
| 03:30.14 | DTRemenak | if strats are really small, it may be nice to see about merging them. the path/strat split is a gigantic mess |
| 03:30.26 | JeffMFishBone | yeah that's what may be happening |
| 03:30.31 | DTRemenak | all sorts of crazy crossdependencies |
| 03:30.34 | JeffMFishBone | just be a couple options on the start/path |
| 03:31.06 | DTRemenak | be nice to have a "shotphysics" and a "shotdrawable" or something |
| 03:32.57 | JeffMFishBone | the physics is the strat/path |
| 03:33.05 | JeffMFishBone | tho if I do this right, strat is gone, and it's just path |
| 03:33.13 | a_meteorite | I heard something about with the new work you guys want to do, we can modify shot updates and change shot paths and stuff |
| 03:33.20 | JeffMFishBone | most of path, just passes to strat |
| 03:33.29 | a_meteorite | with a plugin |
| 03:33.34 | JeffMFishBone | a_meteorite, it's all documented :) |
| 03:33.50 | a_meteorite | ah, I thought I heard it here on IRC |
| 03:33.55 | a_meteorite | probably duplicated somewhere else though |
| 03:34.06 | JeffMFishBone | you did |
| 03:34.11 | JeffMFishBone | but I did a design doc for it :) |
| 03:34.19 | a_meteorite | heh |
| 03:34.26 | JeffMFishBone | it's on the wiki |
| 03:34.42 | JeffMFishBone | hey, there is a wiki that dosn't suck. I can actualy USE that thing |
| 03:34.54 | emodirk | k, erasing preferences fixed it. |
| 03:35.14 | bryjen | i shouldn't be so shocked. you didn't use the P word. |
| 03:35.46 | emodirk | I keymappings I redid. Must'tof caused a bug. |
| 03:36.38 | emodirk | anyways, thanks jeff and blast |
| 03:36.44 | blast007 | sure |
| 03:39.12 | JeffMFishBone | the p word is just a fany word for BSing at work with DTRemenak now :) |
| 03:39.56 | DTRemenak | it's useful bs |
| 03:55.33 | purple_cow | P word? |
| 03:56.00 | JeffMFishBone | plan |
| 03:56.05 | purple_cow | ahh |
| 03:57.34 | Constitution | lol JeffMFishBone, looks like we were in the same place at the same time :-) |
| 03:57.41 | JeffMFishBone | indeed |
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| 04:40.26 | brlcad | JeffM2501: UI or HUI come to mind |
| 04:40.54 | JeffM2501 | it's not realy an inteface |
| 04:41.05 | JeffM2501 | it's like output only |
| 04:41.30 | JeffM2501 | ShotNugget |
| 04:41.32 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 04:41.44 | JeffM2501 | tho I guess it's more of an event handler then anything |
| 04:41.51 | JeffM2501 | now that I see the functions I'm adding |
| 04:42.39 | JeffM2501 | it gets called by the shot strat for ricos, moves, teleports and ends |
| 04:42.59 | JeffM2501 | I can do it similar to the event handlers for the server :) |
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| 04:50.47 | jude- | hello all |
| 05:10.59 | DTRemenak | heh, one of my friends broke his board a couple weeks ago...he was pretty unhappy about it |
| 05:11.09 | SportChick | yeah, I bet |
| 05:11.14 | SportChick | how long? |
| 05:11.36 | DTRemenak | long? |
| 05:11.37 | DTRemenak | I don't know anything about surfing :) |
| 05:12.01 | SportChick | heh, the length of his board? |
| 05:12.07 | DTRemenak | dunno |
| 05:13.03 | SportChick | not always, but generally, the longer, the pricier |
| 05:25.39 | L4m3r | because the longer, the better :) |
| 05:26.29 | SportChick | well, that's how _I_ feel, but not everyone does :) |
| 05:27.07 | L4m3r | I used a six-footer until it couldn't float me anymore |
| 05:27.36 | L4m3r | eventually there was so much current drag on the board that I couldn't really paddle out |
| 05:28.02 | L4m3r | or, at San Onofre, I couldn't paddle out without getting dragged south past the break |
| 05:29.28 | SportChick | hehe |
| 05:29.40 | SportChick | I have an 8' and a 9'1 |
| 05:29.45 | L4m3r | pfft |
| 05:29.49 | SportChick | I prefer my 9'1 - it's custom shaped |
| 05:29.53 | L4m3r | my dad has an eleven-footer :P |
| 05:30.11 | blast007 | SportChick: is it a circle? cuz that would be REALLY custom |
| 05:30.31 | SportChick | L4m3r: hehe |
| 05:30.51 | SportChick | L4m3r: a good friend of mine has this crazy 12' with tassles on the rails |
| 05:30.55 | L4m3r | heh |
| 05:31.31 | L4m3r | I remember one time at San-O someone with an RV had an enormous board that said "Big Kahuna's Death Stick" on it |
| 05:32.06 | L4m3r | mounted vertically on the rear end of the RV it was higher than the roof. I don't know how they managed to avoid snapping it in half on the overpass there. |
| 05:32.38 | SportChick | hehe |
| 05:32.53 | SportChick | L4m3r: ever seen the blue bus around here? that's my buddy with the tassel'd board |
| 05:33.20 | L4m3r | blue bus? split or bay window? |
| 05:33.40 | SportChick | it's like an old school bus but painted sky blue |
| 05:33.57 | L4m3r | oh, like a bus-bus |
| 05:34.06 | L4m3r | I was thinking of the VW :P |
| 05:34.16 | L4m3r | then no, I haven't seen it |
| 05:35.14 | SportChick | ah, well if/when you do, that's Jay |
| 05:35.34 | L4m3r | heh |
| 05:36.09 | L4m3r | unfortunately I don't go to hermosa much anymore |
| 05:36.25 | L4m3r | dad's in Wilmington... the only time I go north is to see the grandparents in manhattan |
| 05:36.35 | SportChick | ah |
| 05:41.43 | SportChick | well, nn |
| 05:42.26 | L4m3r | cya |
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| 10:00.46 | quantumdot | hey hey congrats to all bzflag devs and candidates for the success on the SoC :) |
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| 10:26.19 | Gracey | Can anyone tell me if there's anyway to stop from being diconnected every so often? |
| 10:28.33 | Chestal | in IRC? |
| 10:28.55 | Gracey | yes |
| 10:29.37 | quantumdot | Gracey: maybe using a decent client |
| 10:29.38 | Gracey | every 15 mins or so i get disconnected and it asks if i want to reconnect |
| 10:29.56 | Chestal | don't use the Web gateway, it is really only meant for a quick question or so. Install an IRC client |
| 10:30.03 | quantumdot | Gracey: you might be using a web client |
| 10:30.12 | quantumdot | use a real client |
| 10:30.22 | Gracey | Ok will do. Thx guys |
| 10:30.24 | quantumdot | Gracey: I recommend GAIM |
| 10:30.34 | Gracey | how come? |
| 10:30.48 | quantumdot | it supports many protocols not just IRC |
| 10:30.58 | quantumdot | YIM, ICQ, ... |
| 10:31.05 | quantumdot | it is free source |
| 10:31.11 | Gracey | oh i see |
| 10:31.15 | quantumdot | and never hangs up :) |
| 10:31.32 | Gracey | =P Cool |
| 10:32.14 | quantumdot | you dont need to have 7 different messengers eating up memory, you just run one for all ;) |
| 10:33.01 | quantumdot | Gracey: get GAIM at df.ne |
| 10:33.07 | quantumdot | sf.net i mean |
| 10:33.15 | Gracey | a what? |
| 10:33.15 | CBG | Other popular IRC clients for windows are: mirc and X-Chat. |
| 10:33.30 | quantumdot | x-chat is not free |
| 10:33.39 | quantumdot | not for windows at least |
| 10:33.42 | CBG | They are standalone irc clients, unlike GAIM, but I would guess they are a little better at IRC 'cause that is all they do. |
| 10:33.52 | CBG | quantumdot: x-chat do not provide their own binaries for free. |
| 10:34.07 | CBG | however, another website does - or you can build it yourself |
| 10:34.24 | CBG | free xchat: http://www.silverex.org |
| 10:34.25 | Gracey | What's Pidgin? |
| 10:34.29 | quantumdot | really? you can get the source for free, leagaly? |
| 10:34.36 | CBG | yes, quantumdot :) |
| 10:34.45 | quantumdot | this world is crazy |
| 10:34.49 | CBG | the only thing you pay for is the "Official" binary |
| 10:35.31 | CBG | :P |
| 10:37.11 | daxxar | X-Chat uses the GPL license, afaik, which is why they *have* to distribute the Windows sources. |
| 10:37.14 | CBG | If you use other messengers (MSN, AIM, etc...) then I would try GAIM. See if you like it... If not, get xchat or mirc (ah, seems this one is shareware... http://www.mirc.com/ ) and continue using your old messenger programs along side. |
| 10:37.19 | daxxar | Gracey: Pidgin is the new name for GAIM |
| 10:37.37 | daxxar | Gracey: Since they had a bump with AOL about names and trademarks and whatever. :) |
| 10:37.56 | quantumdot | daxxar: i did not know that |
| 10:38.14 | Gracey | oow |
| 10:38.16 | daxxar | It's on their sites 'news'-section, it didn't happen long ago. :) |
| 10:38.26 | daxxar | They say the charge for X-Chat Windows because building it is a PITA - I believe them ;) |
| 10:39.13 | CBG | hehe :) |
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| 10:52.10 | Gracey | Cool, much better now =P |
| 10:52.22 | Gracey | I think |
| 10:55.48 | Gracey | Can you guys tell me if there is something you can do to allow you to save all these channels, rather than having to type them in over and over again? |
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| 10:58.48 | Pommes | Gracey: you got to tell your client what channels to "autojoin" at startup |
| 10:59.26 | Gracey | ok |
| 11:00.29 | CBG | I would expect GAIM has an auto-join list. |
| 11:00.29 | CBG | Look around, under the menus, preferences, etc. |
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| 16:27.54 | JeffM2501 | hows the spamtatic guy doin? |
| 16:30.09 | Tedius | I've upgraded my server |
| 16:30.20 | Tedius | no problems here |
| 16:30.30 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 16:30.57 | JeffM2501 | when brlcad wakes up I'll ask him to bust out a mac build and post it on beta for the mac users that can't compile for whatever reason. |
| 16:32.18 | Tedius | that will be quite helpful |
| 16:33.12 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 16:33.30 | Tedius | You've probably already covered this.. but shouldn't I see 2.1.3 servers with my 2.1.1 client? |
| 16:33.39 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 16:33.45 | JeffM2501 | and 2.1.3 is way old |
| 16:33.45 | L4m3r | proto was bumped |
| 16:33.54 | JeffM2501 | current is .9 or .10 IIRC |
| 16:34.07 | JeffM2501 | but yes, you can only see compatable servers in a game |
| 16:34.21 | JeffM2501 | 2.0.x clients don't see the 2.1.x servers even tho they share the same list |
| 16:35.30 | JeffM2501 | it would be bad to show people servers that they can not play on. |
| 16:37.37 | L4m3r | JeffM2501: might be handy to force 2.2 upgrade tho :P |
| 16:37.45 | JeffM2501 | we arn't ready |
| 16:37.47 | JeffM2501 | not in the last |
| 16:38.01 | L4m3r | heck, it could be good to get the 1.10 stragglers |
| 16:38.02 | JeffM2501 | right now I'd do a 2.0.10 before I did a 2.2 |
| 16:38.11 | JeffM2501 | linux can't even connect to a server |
| 16:38.28 | JeffM2501 | we'll just have to get the servers upgraded |
| 16:38.43 | JeffM2501 | if they don't, they are poorly adminied servers, and deserve what they get :) |
| 16:39.47 | donny_baker | JeffM2501: found a spellcheck extension for mediawiki... think it would be useful? |
| 16:39.54 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 16:40.08 | donny_baker | ill get it loaded up this week |
| 16:40.14 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 16:41.03 | donny_baker | i think it allows a custom dictionary as well, so we can load it up with bz terms |
| 17:12.33 | JeffM2501 | fun |
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| 17:34.55 | bryjen | is joining the server currently broken in 2.1 ? |
| 17:35.15 | bryjen | s/currently/known to be/ |
| 17:35.40 | JeffM2501 | for some OSs yes |
| 17:36.34 | Erroneous | for everything but windows yes, afaik |
| 17:36.57 | bryjen | hmmm |
| 17:37.03 | JeffM2501 | so a minority ;) |
| 17:37.21 | JeffM2501 | wonder how far TS was able to get on his rollback testing. |
| 17:38.05 | JeffM2501 | I can grab one of Chris's old machines and install linux on it tonight if need be |
| 17:38.15 | bryjen | ~spell persecuted |
| 17:38.32 | Erroneous | I'm not gonna be able to work on it for a week or so |
| 17:38.40 | JeffM2501 | nix that bad? |
| 17:39.10 | Erroneous | heh, my installation is totally fubar :) |
| 17:39.24 | Erroneous | really will only take a few hours to fix, but I won't have a few hours for a while |
| 17:39.46 | JeffM2501 | well I'll grab one and install ubuntu on it |
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| 18:04.51 | ts | JeffM2501: I don't have time for further testing.. |
| 18:04.55 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 18:05.00 | JeffM2501 | I'm seting up a nix machine |
| 18:05.02 | JeffM2501 | well trying to |
| 18:05.11 | JeffM2501 | thanks for the work you were able to fit in :) |
| 18:05.38 | ts | I'll be not reading messages here next months.. |
| 18:05.49 | JeffM2501 | school can be a time sink |
| 18:05.54 | ts | terribly busy |
| 18:07.34 | tupone | what does "upgrade or die" means? and why a bit or (|) and not a logical or (||) like all the other topic? |
| 18:08.07 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 18:08.12 | JeffM2501 | cus I ran out of room :) |
| 18:08.17 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffM2501 -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9453 || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || http://fisheye1.cenqua.com/browse/bzflag/bzflag || New WIKI! http://my.bzflag.org/w/ || Migrated from CVS to SVN: http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN || GSoC 4 slots: http://my.bzflag.org/w/Google_Summer_of_Code#Program_Evaluation |
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| 18:15.38 | bryjen | tupone: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=106556#106556 |
| 18:18.13 | tupone | why not just fixing the bug, without requiring the tor plugin, if that seems the case? |
| 18:19.21 | bryjen | the bug was fixed -- after 2.0.8. Server running 2.0.8-release needed to update to get the fix. |
| 18:20.26 | tupone | ahh, so the comment about the tor plugin is not so appropriate. Just an extra counter-measure |
| 18:20.35 | ts | and sercer owners are hesitant to update because one broke the speed check to kick out innocent people |
| 18:20.48 | ts | s/sercer/server/ |
| 18:21.07 | JeffM2501 | tupone, the tor plug-in can be used to fix non upgraded systems |
| 18:21.19 | JeffM2501 | and also prevent them from doing more things later |
| 18:21.27 | tupone | but is not really fixing the bug I get |
| 18:21.41 | JeffM2501 | if they modify the psam script to do a full join, then the plug-in is all that can stop them |
| 18:21.46 | JeffM2501 | the bug was fixed as well |
| 18:21.57 | JeffM2501 | upgrade is best |
| 18:22.11 | JeffM2501 | the tor block is only mentioned as an extra step as you say |
| 18:23.02 | JeffM2501 | it is not even mentioned in the first post |
| 18:23.08 | JeffM2501 | but I can clarify |
| 18:24.35 | JeffM2501 | has he let up at all? |
| 18:25.13 | tupone | hmm, cannot translate that |
| 18:27.03 | Tedius | I haven't seen anything today |
| 18:27.35 | Tedius | I have a related question I think.. |
| 18:27.56 | Tedius | Before the spamattack I received a number of these in the log file: |
| 18:27.58 | Tedius | Player [2] failed to resolve: error 4 |
| 18:28.24 | Tedius | Is a message like this normal, or is this related? |
| 18:28.50 | JeffM2501 | I reworded it tupone, hopefully it is more clear now :) |
| 18:30.26 | bryjen | Tedius: mostly normal, i'd think. not all ip addresses point back to names. not sure excatly what error 4 is though. |
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| 19:02.32 | donny_baker | new property table extension loaded on the wiki |
| 19:02.38 | donny_baker | to see it's effects |
| 19:02.39 | donny_baker | http://my.bzflag.org/w/Meshpyr |
| 19:03.28 | donny_baker | going to work on documenting it in the help now |
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| 20:02.35 | trepan | recent bzfs box and pyr primitives will give better results then meshbox and meshpyr (and can use the same attributes) |
| 20:04.46 | ts | and with box and grouping in a certain way some clients get stuck, with meshbox this is not the case |
| 20:05.34 | donny_baker | so you are saying that matref and phydrv work on both regular pyramids and meshpyr? |
| 20:05.49 | trepan | yes, if you have a recent bzfs |
| 20:05.53 | donny_baker | and the same for box |
| 20:05.56 | trepan | yup |
| 20:06.00 | donny_baker | ok, ill add them to the wiki |
| 20:06.06 | trepan | and the box/pyr versions render faster |
| 20:06.09 | JeffM2501 | you should find out what version the BZFS has to be in |
| 20:06.16 | JeffM2501 | if you document it in the wiki |
| 20:06.17 | trepan | JeffM2501: beat me to it ;-) |
| 20:06.27 | donny_baker | ok, ill try and determine |
| 20:06.28 | JeffM2501 | otherwisae eveyone will just do it |
| 20:07.37 | donny_baker | [12:38] JeffM2501: if they don't, they are poorly adminied servers, and deserve what they get :)... :D |
| 20:08.08 | donny_baker | but I will find out for documentation purposes |
| 20:09.00 | trepan | r13014 | trepan | 2006-06-06 14:49:07 -0400 (Tue, 06 Jun 2006) | 3 lines |
| 20:09.11 | trepan | (svn log): - boxes and pyramids are converted to meshes as required |
| 20:09.25 | donny_baker | ~trepan++ |
| 20:09.47 | donny_baker | for rendering them that way and finding it again :) |
| 20:09.54 | trepan | was my last commit to that file, easy to find |
| 20:11.01 | tannerld | ~trepan++ |
| 20:11.03 | trepan | use 'color 1 1 1 1' or something similar to force the mesh version |
| 20:11.29 | trepan | (just need to use one of the mesh properties, phydrv, material keyword, etc...) |
| 20:12.03 | JeffM2501 | if they are converted to mesh versions, why do they render faster then box versions? how is it difrent on the client side? |
| 20:12.31 | trepan | faster then the normal box version and meshbox version |
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| 20:12.51 | trepan | display lists agaist normal box |
| 20:12.57 | trepan | better geo against meshbox |
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| 20:13.26 | trepan | meshbox actually uses an arc prim |
| 20:13.46 | trepan | so 4 quads + 8 tris, iirc |
| 20:15.09 | trepan | the new-box also has easier referencing for sides materials: x+,x-,y+,y-,z+,z- |
| 20:15.44 | trepan | x+,x-,y+,y-,bottom for new-pyr |
| 20:16.26 | trepan | but box and pyrs should all go away anyways :) |
| 20:16.57 | gsnedders | Manu, Pimpi_: viper is down |
| 20:21.22 | Manu | ~bzfs viper.pimpi.org:5158 |
| 20:21.53 | Manu | gsnedders: up again |
| 20:22.04 | gsnedders | Manu: thanks |
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| 20:36.42 | Pimpi_ | Manu, gsnedders: how?s thr plugin with ruskies changes? |
| 20:36.45 | Pimpi_ | better now? |
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| 20:53.12 | Manu | Pimpi_: yes |
| 20:53.52 | JeffM2501 | bryjen, you arround in a place you cold test a nix client connection? |
| 20:55.14 | JeffM2501 | or anyone that can build from 2.1 and test? |
| 20:58.14 | blast007 | JeffM2501: if I'm building a PPC version of bzflag for someone as an .app, do I use the Development or the Deployment version (I know I'd do "Deployment" a.k.a. "Release" on Windows, just not sure about OSX) |
| 20:58.20 | blast007 | s/version/mode/ |
| 20:58.40 | JeffM2501 | I think depolyment is release |
| 20:59.04 | blast007 | right |
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| 20:59.37 | blast007 | but it'll work with Development mode too? |
| 20:59.43 | JeffM2501 | yeah I thnk so |
| 20:59.47 | JeffM2501 | just will be bigger |
| 20:59.49 | Erroneous | yes, both should work |
| 21:00.27 | Erroneous | they don't have to deal with the separate "D" runtimes like we do |
| 21:00.35 | blast007 | :) |
| 21:01.11 | Erroneous | though development is likely using -O0 |
| 21:01.15 | CIA-17 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r14082 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ServerLink.cxx: do a little loop while we wait for the return code from our connect string, do it smartly and bail when we get the BZFS response, but wait for a time out in case we don't. |
| 21:01.33 | JeffM2501 | 30 seconds long enough? or should I do more? |
| 21:01.44 | Erroneous | should be plenty |
| 21:01.51 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 21:02.02 | JeffM2501 | I can make it a local config setting if we need to |
| 21:02.27 | JeffM2501 | I tested it here and it does bail out and connect when it gets data. |
| 21:02.52 | JeffM2501 | so if some nixer can get that and try it, and let me know :) |
| 21:03.55 | Erroneous | woot propertytables |
| 21:04.00 | Erroneous | ~donny_baker++ |
| 21:05.47 | donny_baker | they look pretty, and are easy to make... just don't nest well |
| 21:06.15 | donny_baker | ok.. they don't nest at all... but I am going to see it I can modify the extension to do that |
| 21:06.34 | donny_baker | shouldn't be terribly hard |
| 21:07.11 | donny_baker | that way properties can have subproperties, rather than sub-property tables |
| 21:07.42 | donny_baker | like http://my.bzflag.org/w/Mesh |
| 21:10.38 | blast007 | JeffM2501: I'm rebuilding trunk in my VM |
| 21:10.50 | JeffM2501 | cool, thanks |
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| 21:14.18 | JeffM2501 | that's my best guess as what can be wrong |
| 21:14.31 | JeffM2501 | I may do a VM here in a bit if that dosn't cut it |
| 21:22.26 | bryjen | no cuts |
| 21:22.41 | JeffM2501 | it connect? |
| 21:22.45 | JeffM2501 | or no? |
| 21:22.51 | bryjen | "error connecting to server" still |
| 21:22.54 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 21:23.13 | JeffM2501 | there has to be a way to flush it |
| 21:23.20 | bryjen | i'm doing a clean build now, just in case. |
| 21:27.24 | blast007 | JeffM2501: you have a server up? |
| 21:27.28 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 21:27.30 | JeffM2501 | I'm at work |
| 21:27.38 | blast007 | oh, ok |
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| 21:28.29 | JeffM2501 | I've got some loging code I can commit too |
| 21:28.35 | JeffM2501 | see where what is happening |
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| 21:29.20 | blast007 | it worked |
| 21:29.30 | blast007 | I was able to join a local server |
| 21:29.34 | JeffM2501 | ccool |
| 21:29.47 | JeffM2501 | that's better then ts could get |
| 21:29.57 | blast007 | and just to make sure, I'm gonna try a Win32 server with a linux client |
| 21:30.09 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 21:30.31 | JeffM2501 | of bryjens dosn't work I'll commit my log changes to it |
| 21:31.07 | bryjen | grrrr. it'd help if i'd run the right version of bzfs :/ |
| 21:31.10 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 21:31.25 | JeffM2501 | I should do the loging anyway |
| 21:31.55 | CIA-17 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r14083 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ServerLink.cxx: add debug log messages at level 1 for failure, and level 2 for success/status. |
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| 21:32.14 | bryjen | works fine now |
| 21:32.17 | bryjen | ~lart me |
| 21:32.17 | ibot | puts bryjen into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of bryjen's hair of |
| 21:32.19 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 21:32.28 | JeffM2501 | and it failed before you ddi the first udate right? |
| 21:32.35 | JeffM2501 | earlyer this afternoon |
| 21:32.58 | bryjen | yeah |
| 21:33.11 | JeffM2501 | ok, good |
| 21:33.38 | JeffM2501 | well the loggings in, if anyone has any more issues with it, go to debug level 2 and look for the messages that start with CONNECT. |
| 21:34.00 | JeffM2501 | hopefully this method will work for everyone |
| 21:34.30 | JeffM2501 | ibot message for TS, if you have time, can you try the current build for me please, it not no biggie, thanks. |
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| 21:37.23 | JeffM2501 | if that holds up I can redo the shot strat stuff :) |
| 21:37.46 | tadd | I'm running BZFS Version: 2.0.9.20061105-DEVEL-darwin8.8.0-SDL and I just got spammed again |
| 21:38.13 | JeffM2501 | was it stll "unknown"? |
| 21:38.20 | JeffM2501 | and you got it to build? |
| 21:38.38 | blast007 | JeffM2501: they tried s7 I think |
| 21:38.38 | JeffM2501 | oh 2006, yeah that's not good |
| 21:38.44 | JeffM2501 | yeah S7 is too old |
| 21:38.49 | JeffM2501 | the fix was late december |
| 21:38.57 | blast007 | tadd: mine just finished, so I'm gonna upload it |
| 21:38.59 | JeffM2501 | when brlcad awakes I'm going to ask him to bust out a binary |
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| 21:39.07 | JeffM2501 | or you could just do that :) |
| 21:39.08 | tadd | I didn't get it to build |
| 21:39.11 | tadd | it was handed to me |
| 21:39.20 | tadd | ok on s7 being too old that's good |
| 21:39.20 | JeffM2501 | tadd, yeah it's just too old |
| 21:39.25 | tadd | ok. thanks. |
| 21:39.32 | JeffM2501 | try blasts |
| 21:39.49 | blast007 | hmm, 81MB ;) |
| 21:39.51 | JeffM2501 | IIRC, that mac even has the X11 stuff disabled so it should work :) |
| 21:40.00 | JeffM2501 | welcome to OSX fatdaddy builds :) |
| 21:40.07 | tadd | ok blast. where will yours be? |
| 21:40.07 | JeffM2501 | there is a reason we compress the DMG |
| 21:40.21 | JeffM2501 | blast007, you have access to beta.bzflag.bz right? |
| 21:40.48 | blast007 | how would I compress it? |
| 21:41.22 | tadd | ThinkDifferent just sent me one that is 3 days old |
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| 21:41.46 | blast007 | tadd: that'll work too then |
| 21:41.56 | tadd | ok. |
| 21:42.00 | lodxcol | his is not compiled with plugins though |
| 21:42.23 | blast007 | not sure if mine is either |
| 21:42.26 | blast007 | I just used XCode |
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| 21:46.11 | tadd | his build is not completed. he didn't make a .app |
| 21:46.20 | tadd | and he doesn't have a location to host it |
| 21:46.25 | tadd | he's ftping it to me now |
| 21:46.53 | Daveman | Hallo Bzflags :) |
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| 21:47.42 | blast007 | dvdsatan: need something? |
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| 21:56.52 | JeffM2501 | blast007, we put it into a compressed disk image |
| 21:57.04 | JeffM2501 | but geting it to him is fine |
| 21:57.18 | JeffM2501 | tadd, open your .app and replace the bzfs in there with the one from blast |
| 21:59.57 | tadd | ok |
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| 22:08.52 | JeffM2501 | oops |
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| 22:11.47 | SportFckFace | HEY CHECK OUT THIS SITE http://209.62.2.210/sportcunt/ SPORTCUNT IS A FUCKING SLUT ASS WHORE ! |
| 22:11.48 | SportFckFace | HEY CHECK OUT THIS SITE http://209.62.2.210/sportcunt/ SPORTCUNT IS A FUCKING SLUT ASS WHORE ! |
| 22:11.48 | SportFckFace | HEY CHECK OUT THIS SITE http://209.62.2.210/sportcunt/ SPORTCUNT IS A FUCKING SLUT ASS WHORE ! |
| 22:11.50 | SportFckFace | HEY CHECK OUT THIS SITE http://209.62.2.210/sportcunt/ SPORTCUNT IS A FUCKING SLUT ASS WHORE ! |
| 22:11.50 | SportFckFace | HEY CHECK OUT THIS SITE http://209.62.2.210/sportcunt/ SPORTCUNT IS A FUCKING SLUT ASS WHORE ! |
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| 22:12.03 | JeffM2501 | here we go |
| 22:12.09 | *** mode/#bzflag [+m] by JeffM2501 |
| 22:12.19 | JeffM2501 | what's it for reg to speak? |
| 22:12.22 | JeffM2501 | +r? |
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| 22:12.52 | blast007 | +R |
| 22:12.58 | blast007 | (capital) |
| 22:13.05 | *** mode/#bzflag [+R] by JeffM2501 |
| 22:13.08 | *** mode/#bzflag [-m] by JeffM2501 |
| 22:13.17 | JeffM2501 | see how that flies |
| 22:13.25 | JeffM2501 | wonder if they know she's staff now :) |
| 22:13.32 | blast007 | heh |
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| 22:33.40 | Erroneous | grr |
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| 22:37.19 | *** mode/#bzflag [+R] by JeffM2501 |
| 22:37.29 | JeffM2501 | bahh, stupid me |
| 22:37.54 | Winny | I would say something, but I won't ;) |
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| 22:38.51 | spldart | It's been one of those days today |
| 22:39.21 | noyb | JeffM2501: I know it's a pain in the neck, but somebody has to do it. Thanks for keeping the place cleaned up. |
| 22:39.32 | JeffM2501 | it's not that hard |
| 22:40.04 | noyb | well, I've never had to do it. so thank you anyway. |
| 22:40.16 | JeffM2501 | +R and +m get most of it |
| 22:42.09 | noyb | I was in here a lot a year (or two?) ago. How are things going? |
| 22:43.31 | JeffM2501 | same ol same ol |
| 22:43.47 | noyb | I'm 'blah' in the game by the way... |
| 22:44.34 | noyb | last release was 2.0.8 no? |
| 22:44.41 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 22:44.41 | Erroneous | yup |
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| 22:50.58 | noyb | I've been neglecting to mention a bug I've been having on macosx: if I have TH and I take the SW flag during a shock wave, it will crash my client. does that sound familiar? |
| 22:51.37 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 22:51.45 | rob1n | noyb, what version? |
| 22:51.57 | noyb | macosx latest, 2.0.8 client |
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| 22:52.55 | noyb | so my work-around is... don't take the sw flag anymore. :) |
| 22:53.16 | JeffM2501 | you may want to try the 2.0.9 in SVN |
| 22:53.38 | JeffM2501 | there have beem small fixes, but I dunno if that specific thign has been changed |
| 22:53.52 | noyb | is that like a nightly build or must I build it myself? |
| 22:54.07 | JeffM2501 | you build it |
| 22:54.47 | noyb | gah... I've lost all memory of how to do that. is there a good write-up for a relapsed n00b ? |
| 22:55.10 | noyb | I believe brlcad helped me with that a long while ago. |
| 22:55.49 | JeffM2501 | there is a readme in the source |
| 22:55.51 | JeffM2501 | and a post on bzbb |
| 22:55.59 | noyb | k |
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| 23:08.26 | quantumdot | we need an admin at borrego |
| 23:08.28 | quantumdot | manu!!! |
| 23:08.34 | quantumdot | i cant stop the spam |
| 23:08.50 | quantumdot | a non logged player is spaming the server |
| 23:09.09 | quantumdot | maybe using some web interface |
| 23:09.12 | quantumdot | or irc? |
| 23:09.22 | quantumdot | menotume ping |
| 23:10.03 | JBdiGriz | It's not clear what an admin can do with a non-logged in user. We can restart the server, but that's about it. |
| 23:10.22 | quantumdot | i see |
| 23:10.44 | quantumdot | he might be using some of the irc tools to talk to the server |
| 23:11.09 | quantumdot | i am admin but there is little i can do |
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| 23:11.24 | quantumdot | someone with root powers is needed |
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| 23:12.19 | JBdiGriz | I left a message for cosmos on #hepcat. He will occasionally look at that. |
| 23:14.09 | quantumdot | i have also reported via server |
| 23:14.24 | quantumdot | usually cosmos gets a bell ringing |
| 23:14.44 | JBdiGriz | yes, I saw the reports. They go to the same place. |
| 23:14.49 | quantumdot | ah |
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| 23:50.55 | JBdiGriz | JeffM2501: hepcat is getting spammed by the unknown user. What is the method they are using to connect? |
| 23:51.25 | JeffM2501 | TCP vai TOR is the typical method |
| 23:51.29 | JeffM2501 | torblock should kill it |
| 23:51.56 | JeffM2501 | or he can upgrade and turn off the speedcheck kicks |
| 23:52.28 | JBdiGriz | The traceback of the IP address points to bz.bzflag.bz. We are wondering a bit about that. |
| 23:52.32 | JeffM2501 | hmm I could probably write a plugin that checks the username field on each chat message and kicks for that |
| 23:52.39 | JeffM2501 | odd |
| 23:53.05 | JeffM2501 | basicly they send a msgChat on connect |
| 23:53.08 | JeffM2501 | with out doing anything else |
| 23:53.16 | JeffM2501 | so they could be IP spoffing |
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