| 00:00.08 | restorer | since I don't think Apple has that up for download |
| 00:00.36 | JeffM2501 | the current Xcode is downloadable |
| 00:00.40 | JeffM2501 | even on 10.4 |
| 00:01.01 | restorer | I thought it was just an update |
| 00:01.34 | Constitution | http://developer.apple.com/tools/xcode/ |
| 00:01.39 | JeffM2501 | at 900 megs, it's the real deal :) |
| 00:01.53 | CBG | iirc, all os x versions come with 2 install discs - the 2nd has the dev tools |
| 00:02.04 | restorer | unless you get the DVD |
| 00:02.13 | JeffM2501 | 10.4 has one disk |
| 00:02.18 | JeffM2501 | only comes on DVD;) |
| 00:02.35 | CBG | s/all/all previous/ |
| 00:03.39 | brlcad | solaris came on four dvds |
| 00:04.34 | RatOmeter | wow. last year I had to deal with recovering data from a mail server that had crashed... Solaris 7.5. |
| 00:11.04 | RatOmeter | one Cd |
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| 00:24.52 | SpazzyMcGee | Hey all, got a bzfs issue. |
| 00:25.02 | SpazzyMcGee | 'Segmentation Fault' |
| 00:25.27 | SpazzyMcGee | We get it when we load the flagstay plugin. |
| 00:26.16 | SpazzyMcGee | We are fairly sure that our map code is all correct... any ideas? |
| 00:27.45 | RatOmeter | bzfs version? client version? OS? |
| 00:28.56 | SpazzyMcGee | modded 2.0.9 server, 2.0.8 client |
| 00:29.50 | SpazzyMcGee | Debian |
| 00:30.09 | CBG | the problem also occurs with normal 2.0.9 server |
| 00:30.18 | CBG | this is very recent 2.0.9 from svn |
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| 00:38.05 | SpazzyMcGee | forget it, we're fixing it. |
| 00:38.14 | SpazzyMcGee | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.30 | CBG | yep |
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| 01:01.39 | Daveman | Five slots? rut roh :[ |
| 01:02.35 | Epyon | Daveman, that's a good count. |
| 01:02.44 | Epyon | TP got two :| |
| 01:02.48 | Daveman | TP? |
| 01:03.07 | Epyon | Thousand Parsec, the other game that took part in GSoC |
| 01:03.12 | Daveman | Ah |
| 01:03.18 | Daveman | Ouch |
| 01:03.26 | CBG | only two games in gsoc ? |
| 01:03.32 | Epyon | Yep. |
| 01:03.36 | Daveman | Unsurprising |
| 01:03.38 | Epyon | +2 graphics engines. |
| 01:03.46 | CBG | how many "applicants" for bz gsoc ? |
| 01:04.00 | Epyon | Dunno, ask brlcad |
| 01:04.08 | CBG | > 5 ? |
| 01:04.10 | Epyon | I think it was around 24 reasonable. |
| 01:04.14 | Daveman | :P |
| 01:04.15 | CBG | oh... WOW |
| 01:04.19 | Daveman | geeze |
| 01:04.26 | CBG | I didn't expect anywhere near that much |
| 01:04.30 | Daveman | damn you BZFlag... why'd you have to be so popular :P |
| 01:04.30 | Epyon | Daveman, what did you apply for? |
| 01:04.42 | me1 | We received a total of 45 proposals for the 2007 program that were then reviewed, evaluated, and critiqued. |
| 01:04.47 | me1 | from bzwiki |
| 01:04.58 | Epyon | Daveman, if it weren't so popular it would recieve 2 slots :/ |
| 01:05.01 | Daveman | web admin interface module |
| 01:05.04 | Daveman | heh |
| 01:05.07 | Daveman | it could still get more |
| 01:05.12 | Daveman | unlikely though |
| 01:05.33 | Epyon | interface module?? What would that do? |
| 01:06.15 | Daveman | allow for remote administration of bzfs |
| 01:06.19 | blast007 | Epyon: administrating the server in a browser |
| 01:06.30 | Epyon | Aaah :) |
| 01:06.32 | Daveman | many features, sleighted to be a quite extensible plugin :D |
| 01:06.34 | Epyon | Sounds fun :) |
| 01:06.55 | blast007 | so then you can even run an XHTML-MP page and admin your server from a phone ;) |
| 01:07.01 | Daveman | yeah, and thanks to Jeff's active work on the API and http stuff, it has gotten me all riled up :P |
| 01:07.11 | Epyon | :D |
| 01:07.11 | Daveman | hahaha, blast007 if you wanted to... sure |
| 01:07.12 | Daveman | ;p |
| 01:07.16 | blast007 | :) |
| 01:07.17 | purple_cow | you could do it regardless of whether or not you get a slot :P |
| 01:07.24 | Daveman | I intend to! |
| 01:07.25 | Daveman | :D |
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| 01:07.40 | Epyon | Daveman, don't tell them that, or they'll push you down :P |
| 01:07.45 | Daveman | I know! :P |
| 01:08.14 | Epyon | Anyway, let's hope for the best :) |
| 01:08.15 | Daveman | purple_cow, will you be mentoring? |
| 01:08.20 | Daveman | Epyon, I really hope so |
| 01:08.27 | Epyon | It'd be fun working together ^^ |
| 01:08.45 | Daveman | it seems many of the players/fans would really like something like that, or the fact it would help to pave the way for more plugins I think :p |
| 01:08.48 | Daveman | I hope so :D |
| 01:08.53 | purple_cow | I'll probably be helping out, yeah |
| 01:08.55 | Daveman | that's what I'm really looking forward to |
| 01:09.22 | Daveman | The good news is, regardless, the people here are generally pretty friendly and forthcoming, so I would be alright without an official mentor |
| 01:09.23 | Epyon | A proper HTTP module would allow cool automaticaly run competition games. |
| 01:09.43 | Epyon | As I see it. |
| 01:09.44 | Daveman | and I can tell you, I've gone through the worst experience(s) in SOC with regards to that, so it's all good :D |
| 01:10.00 | Daveman | Epyon, heh see everyone is having their own ideas >:) |
| 01:10.27 | Epyon | If it'd be finished, I'd use it to test my proposal xD |
| 01:10.34 | Daveman | haha, awesome |
| 01:10.43 | Daveman | well it was either that, or the next hilarious community SoC projecgt |
| 01:11.05 | Daveman | Proposed idea: An open source generator, which generates SoC proposals. |
| 01:11.09 | Daveman | :P~ |
| 01:11.20 | purple_cow | it seems like google is starting to encourage more of a group mentorship this year than assigning single "official" mentors |
| 01:11.23 | Epyon | Daveman, I could write that ;] |
| 01:11.39 | Daveman | hell, if anything it'd probably rank up higher than those similar things which write your essay for you :P |
| 01:11.49 | Daveman | or a resume generator - haha |
| 01:11.51 | Epyon | I did a random galactic newspaper generator once. |
| 01:11.59 | Daveman | purple cow, yeah |
| 01:12.09 | Daveman | either that, or brlcad is a big hippie ;p |
| 01:12.18 | Daveman | which I'm not so sure of... so yeah, probably :P |
| 01:12.29 | Daveman | Epyon, haha, nice. |
| 01:12.35 | Epyon | Daveman, you should take a look at the random "postmodern literature research paper" generator xD |
| 01:13.18 | purple_cow | well, that one works because even human-written postmodern research papers are gibberish |
| 01:14.14 | Epyon | purple_cow, I'd like to see someone convince some "great" professor from that field to submit such a generated paper to a journal :] |
| 01:14.34 | Epyon | There'd be great laughs if it would pass ^^ |
| 01:14.46 | purple_cow | I think that's been done |
| 01:14.52 | Epyon | xD |
| 01:14.54 | Daveman | haha |
| 01:15.05 | Daveman | I think someone submitted one and got a B |
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| 01:15.40 | Daveman | purple_cow, you could always do it old school, hire monkeys. |
| 01:15.57 | Epyon | My friend told me about a disco in warsaw, where the DJ started in secret playing live-Perl-generated techno music... |
| 01:16.26 | Epyon | The club jumped in popularity, because the people liked the music. |
| 01:16.33 | Daveman | ;p |
| 01:16.35 | Epyon | Then he told it officialy. |
| 01:16.36 | Daveman | man |
| 01:16.39 | Daveman | I can make music too! |
| 01:16.50 | Daveman | cat /dev/psaux > /dev/audio |
| 01:16.58 | Epyon | And people stopped going there, saying that the music "lacked the soul" |
| 01:17.00 | Epyon | xD |
| 01:17.03 | Daveman | :D |
| 01:17.11 | Daveman | that one always amuses me :P |
| 01:17.18 | Daveman | after a while it gets annoying though. |
| 01:17.23 | Epyon | Funny that they didn't notice it before :P |
| 01:17.33 | Daveman | Point being, that anything past that wouldn't surprise me :p |
| 01:17.45 | Daveman | dude with all the house/trance probably blasting... it'd just be ambient noise :p |
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| 01:18.23 | Epyon | I once hacked up such a generator in ruby. But I didn't like the results :/ |
| 01:19.22 | Daveman | aw |
| 01:21.13 | brlcad | Epyon/CBG: technically, TP isn't a game .. it's a gaming framework that happens to provide example |
| 01:21.50 | Daveman | neat. |
| 01:25.21 | JeffM2501 | does anyone have a current client built? |
| 01:25.26 | blast007 | JeffM2501: I can get one |
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| 01:27.28 | JeffM2501 | need to see if anyone can connect to dnd.opencombat.net |
| 01:27.54 | blast007 | building the changes right now |
| 01:27.57 | JeffM2501 | k |
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| 01:28.11 | Daveman | cool |
| 01:28.20 | blast007 | heh, header must have changed... /me waits longer |
| 01:28.36 | CyberForte | hi |
| 01:28.47 | JeffM2501 | yeah I hit a couple big ones :) |
| 01:29.00 | blast007 | :) |
| 01:30.32 | CyberForte | what are you guys talking about? |
| 01:30.41 | blast007 | about cheese |
| 01:30.48 | blast007 | and the effect it has on gravity |
| 01:30.53 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 01:30.55 | Epyon | Yeah. |
| 01:30.56 | JeffM2501 | changes to the codebase |
| 01:31.01 | CyberForte | right |
| 01:31.08 | Epyon | And the pure mice that are suffering from that. |
| 01:31.43 | JeffM2501 | I can't see how a valid client would fail to connect |
| 01:31.53 | JeffM2501 | all the map erase stuff has been removed and cleaned up |
| 01:32.14 | blast007 | bzadmin was connecting fine for me, but I'll admit, I didn't try a full client |
| 01:32.49 | JeffM2501 | after the first conect, it's all the same old stuff |
| 01:33.03 | JeffM2501 | I wonder if the crash on quit got them to think that it didn't work the second time |
| 01:33.04 | CyberForte | you're an admin? |
| 01:33.13 | JeffM2501 | like after the list hit it |
| 01:33.54 | JeffM2501 | it's runing in a debuger now, so if it crashes I can see where |
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| 01:35.06 | blast007 | JeffM2501: I was just on it |
| 01:35.09 | blast007 | and just left |
| 01:35.20 | blast007 | jitter was high |
| 01:35.47 | JeffM2501 | torrents are going :) |
| 01:35.53 | JeffM2501 | but ok, you did connect |
| 01:35.55 | blast007 | hehe |
| 01:35.55 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
| 01:35.59 | JeffM2501 | what client OS? |
| 01:35.59 | blast007 | second connect too |
| 01:36.04 | blast007 | XP |
| 01:36.07 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 01:36.18 | JeffM2501 | need to get a nixer to conect then I'll be more sure |
| 01:37.05 | JeffM2501 | is it public? |
| 01:37.09 | JeffM2501 | does it show in the list? |
| 01:38.30 | blast007 | it showed, without the domain though |
| 01:38.33 | blast007 | had an IP |
| 01:38.41 | JeffM2501 | yeah all I did was -public :) |
| 01:38.44 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 01:38.45 | blast007 | k ;) |
| 01:38.49 | JeffM2501 | so the list can hit it |
| 01:41.37 | Daveman | should I build the latest to test? |
| 01:41.45 | JeffM2501 | if you wish to |
| 01:41.56 | JeffM2501 | more testing is good |
| 01:41.59 | Daveman | I can certainly try :) |
| 01:45.22 | Epyon | Okay, playtime. Aka -20 xD |
| 01:46.58 | Daveman | hehe |
| 01:47.02 | Daveman | Enjoy, Epyon. |
| 01:49.03 | blast007 | JeffM2501: I'm building it in a VMWare slackware too ;) |
| 01:49.08 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 01:49.44 | JeffM2501 | the mac get there yet? |
| 01:49.59 | purple_cow | blast007: you can change the number of CPUs at any time... |
| 01:50.06 | purple_cow | unless you mean the kernel inside doesn't support SMP |
| 01:50.43 | blast007 | purple_cow: can't change it while it's running though ;) |
| 01:52.45 | purple_cow | no, I'm afraid not |
| 01:53.51 | blast007 | with is totally understandable, but I just wasn't at a point where I could restart it |
| 01:54.02 | blast007 | had quite a few other things mid process on the VM |
| 01:55.15 | purple_cow | maybe eventually we'll be able to hotplug CPUs |
| 01:56.48 | Daveman | heh |
| 01:57.02 | Daveman | sounds easy enough ;) |
| 01:57.36 | blast007 | ~bonk Daveman |
| 01:57.38 | ibot | ACTION bonks Daveman over the head |
| 01:58.51 | Daveman | ouch |
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| 02:01.30 | purple_cow | very few of the things that vmware does are easy ;-) |
| 02:01.44 | blast007 | JeffM2501: is your server up? |
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| 02:04.11 | JeffM2501 | ya |
| 02:04.27 | blast007 | hmm |
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| 02:05.54 | Epyon | "Autokick: Player tank is moving too fast" o.O |
| 02:06.00 | Epyon | What the hell? |
| 02:06.17 | blast007 | JeffM2501: guess I'll ask it this way then... "is it working?" |
| 02:06.32 | blast007 | Epyon: the server thought the tank was moving too fast |
| 02:06.41 | blast007 | JeffM2501: I'm gonna try again on my XP machine |
| 02:06.52 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 02:06.57 | JeffM2501 | i just joined |
| 02:07.20 | me1 | I can't join it. |
| 02:07.28 | Epyon | blast007, it happend to me like the third time :( |
| 02:07.29 | blast007 | works on XP |
| 02:08.07 | JeffM2501 | let me set a breakpoint |
| 02:08.27 | JeffM2501 | join |
| 02:09.17 | blast007 | JeffM2501: one sec |
| 02:09.36 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 02:09.43 | JeffM2501 | let me know when you hit it |
| 02:10.22 | blast007 | I just tried to connect |
| 02:10.30 | JeffM2501 | read error |
| 02:10.31 | blast007 | "Error connecting to server" |
| 02:10.53 | blast007 | I had also tried via telnet with the BZFLAG<enter><enter> |
| 02:11.02 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 02:11.03 | blast007 | wonder if it sent just \n instead of \r\n |
| 02:11.33 | JeffM2501 | with nix clients I get eReadError |
| 02:11.42 | JeffM2501 | with windows I get eReadALL |
| 02:11.51 | JeffM2501 | hit it again and I'll step in |
| 02:12.48 | JeffM2501 | you never sent any data |
| 02:13.09 | JeffM2501 | DAMNIT |
| 02:13.11 | JeffM2501 | one sec |
| 02:13.34 | JeffM2501 | lightbulb just went off |
| 02:14.11 | JeffM2501 | nope, I do it outside the #windows define |
| 02:14.14 | JeffM2501 | maybe I have to flush |
| 02:16.57 | blast007 | JeffM2501: want me to telnet again? ;) |
| 02:17.52 | brlcad | Epyon: either server admin has decreased the default kick tolerance or maybe you have a bit of lag/jitter to that server or there are flags causing unstable computations on that server or some combination thereof |
| 02:18.23 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 02:18.24 | brlcad | more than likely, my guess would be networking issues and a bad/presumptive check value |
| 02:18.28 | JeffM2501 | I think I may have something |
| 02:18.32 | blast007 | k |
| 02:19.03 | JeffM2501 | moving the send up, and adding a select for the write |
| 02:20.28 | CIA-17 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r14005 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ServerLink.cxx: do the send of the connection string first, and do a select for it to make sure it goes out, winders is different from others. |
| 02:20.42 | JeffM2501 | try that |
| 02:22.10 | JeffM2501 | windows still conects |
| 02:22.20 | JeffM2501 | but that should force nix to send out the data first before it waits to read |
| 02:24.52 | JeffM2501 | that looks better :) |
| 02:28.11 | JeffM2501 | and one should also be able to http to that server too :) |
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| 02:28.43 | Epyon | brlcad, playing on that vanilla style server |
| 02:28.53 | JeffM2501 | ok, good I think that fixes it, me and bryjen connected via non windows |
| 02:29.03 | JeffM2501 | and no crashes |
| 02:29.34 | blast007 | worked for me too |
| 02:29.39 | JeffM2501 | good |
| 02:29.58 | JeffM2501 | guess you don't have to call select on windows to send |
| 02:30.33 | JeffM2501 | wow, it must be the 11th, am I ever late :) |
| 02:30.37 | bryjen | "This Is data from HTTP via BZFS" heh |
| 02:30.53 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 02:30.56 | JeffM2501 | simple but it works |
| 02:42.12 | Epyon | Dammit, AGAIN! |
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| 03:09.55 | Epyon | *sigh* |
| 03:09.57 | Epyon | again. |
| 03:10.04 | Epyon | This is getting on my nerves :( |
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| 03:45.43 | Epyon | g'night |
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| 03:59.02 | a_meteorite | donny_baker: read the discussion page |
| 04:00.34 | a_meteorite | rules are certainly relevant for the most part to a network, and it's not banging on my chest either |
| 04:54.40 | rob1n | do i need the devel libraries of libsdl to build bzflag with SDL support? |
| 04:54.47 | a_meteorite | yes |
| 04:55.00 | a_meteorite | it has to get the headers from SDL |
| 04:55.29 | rob1n | okay |
| 04:56.26 | rob1n | ah the Mac OS X runtime package has both |
| 04:56.27 | rob1n | cool |
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| 06:25.41 | JeffM2501 | no other connection problems so far? |
| 06:30.05 | Manu | 5 slots, not bad :) |
| 06:37.10 | JeffM2501 | not at all |
| 06:38.38 | JeffM2501 | ahh, he rearnged them |
| 06:38.49 | Manu | :) |
| 06:38.57 | Manu | 5 slots is a good result |
| 06:39.08 | JeffM2501 | that's what I guessed |
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| 07:22.49 | mvl | Is there somebody here who's able to answer questioned on the SoC mentoring? |
| 07:25.50 | jude- | depends on the question |
| 07:25.56 | jude- | I'm not a mentor... |
| 07:26.10 | jude- | ...but I'll do my best |
| 07:26.30 | mvl | I'm working with the Python Software Foundation, ... |
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| 07:26.56 | mvl | ... and we have a student applying where Google says he already has a mentor assigned with bzflag... |
| 07:27.38 | mvl | ... so I would like to know what the chances are that his bzflag project really is approved ... |
| 07:28.14 | mvl | ... because in this case, we would not assign a mentor for the project he proposed to us ... |
| 07:28.41 | mvl | ...(as it would not have the highest priority for us)... |
| 07:29.04 | mvl | ... so whom should I talk to (in email, preferably, as I don't want to disclose his name on IRC). |
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| 07:42.35 | JeffM2501 | who is it? |
| 07:42.46 | jude- | brlcad, JeffM2501, TimRiker |
| 07:42.48 | JeffM2501 | I can check our list |
| 07:43.49 | jude- | mvl: sorry about the delay...the hotel I'm at has a bandwidth-throttled connection :( |
| 07:45.18 | jude- | mvl: ...at least, those are SOME of them...I'm not sure what the full list is |
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| 07:51.35 | jude- | np :) |
| 07:54.02 | JeffM2501 | so has anyone else had any connection issues with 0048 since my last changes? |
| 07:54.35 | JeffM2501 | ibot message for ts, can you test current SVN, the connection problem should be fixed now. |
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| 08:09.14 | jude- | ping brlcad |
| 08:09.32 | jude- | (ignore that; forgot the /) |
| 08:14.47 | Manu | Hey jude-, don't make it bad... ;) |
| 08:14.55 | jude- | lol |
| 08:15.11 | jude- | hello Manu |
| 08:15.17 | Manu | hi jude- :) |
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| 08:20.27 | tupone | hi [darek] |
| 08:20.31 | Manu | good morning [darek] |
| 08:20.43 | [darek] | hi tupone, Manu :) |
| 08:20.53 | [darek] | how are you ? |
| 08:21.49 | tupone | fine :) |
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| 08:23.51 | Manu | good [darek], thanks :) |
| 08:37.18 | jude- | JeffM2501: I've seen the development requirements on the wiki, and one of the requirements is that Tim Riker will end up owning the copyright to any code contributions. Because I am interested in writing a BZW editor (a separate application that may not share source with BZFlag), am I still subject to that same condition? |
| 08:38.03 | JeffM2501 | yeah you will |
| 08:38.12 | jude- | kk |
| 08:39.59 | jude- | not that its a problem, or anything...it just seemed like an inconsistancy |
| 08:40.17 | tupone | I don't think you can move all the right of owning in all the country |
| 08:41.13 | tupone | jude-, the problem is only that if you leave and we need to change the licensing, like going to GPL-3 or BSD, or LGP-2.x we have to find you |
| 08:41.25 | jude- | right |
| 08:41.45 | jude- | I didn't think of that |
| 08:41.55 | jude- | but then again, its 1:48 am where I live ;) |
| 08:42.04 | tupone | :) |
| 08:43.55 | tupone | but I get that you still own the copyright, just you shared with tim, like it is a fork |
| 08:44.07 | jude- | kk |
| 08:44.25 | jude- | ...only my branch is just constantly synchronized with the fork ;) |
| 08:45.40 | tupone | so its not really moving copyright, just giving Tim copyright too |
| 08:45.50 | jude- | no problem |
| 08:46.11 | jude- | I agree with the development requirements |
| 08:46.17 | tupone | well, I'm not really entusiastic with this solution, but seems the better we can do |
| 08:47.18 | jude- | As long as I get credit for developing it (i.e. Tim Riker can't remove my written presence in the project), then I have no problems |
| 08:48.25 | tupone | Actually I would like to ask on putting a list of major contribution on all the files of bzflag. We should discuss about it, sometime |
| 08:48.41 | jude- | I'll be there :) |
| 08:48.48 | jude- | ...assuming I get chosen |
| 08:48.55 | jude- | as a GSoC-er |
| 08:49.49 | jude- | by "I'll be there", I mean I'll be there for the discussion |
| 08:50.04 | tupone | I got it |
| 08:51.16 | jude- | you see, if I get accepted and successfully complete my proposed GSoC project, I'd like to put a reference to it on my resume |
| 08:52.49 | jude- | to do that, there needs to be written evidence that the code I wrote is associated with my name in some way ;) |
| 08:52.57 | jude- | its not that I don't trust Tim Riker |
| 08:53.19 | jude- | I just needed the ambiguity of the dev requirements to be cleared up a bit |
| 08:53.45 | tupone | when brlcad will be up, we could discuss better |
| 08:53.59 | jude- | I sent him an e-mail asking the same question |
| 08:57.28 | jude- | I must sleep now...need to get up in 6 hours...see you all later |
| 08:57.37 | tupone | cu |
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| 11:42.28 | ts | ~bzflist |
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| 12:31.31 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/wiki/index.php/Getting_Help || http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9453 || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || http://fisheye1.cenqua.com/browse/bzflag/bzflag || New WIKI! http://my.bzflag.org/w/ || Migrated from CVS to SVN: http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN || GSoC preliminary slot allocation results are now in: five |
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| 13:34.14 | brlcad | nifty |
| 13:34.16 | brlcad | noir:~/BZ/bzflag morrison$ file src/bzflag/bzflag |
| 13:34.17 | brlcad | src/bzflag/bzflag: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures |
| 13:34.46 | brlcad | that'll do, donkey. that'll do. |
| 13:38.46 | Manu | buenos días brlcad :) |
| 13:39.46 | ts | brlcad: How did you do that? |
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| 14:06.37 | donny_baker | ~seen Tanner |
| 14:07.06 | ibot | tanner <n=Tanner@d226-123-225.home.cgocable.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 85d 16h 26m 23s ago, saying: 'Word.'. |
| 14:07.23 | Winny | Doesn't sound like something tanner would say :p |
| 14:07.35 | donny_baker | nope... must be the wrong tanner ;) |
| 14:07.49 | Winny | Ill see if he's on skype, one sec |
| 14:08.23 | Winny | nope |
| 14:08.34 | donny_baker | thats ok, nothing urgent |
| 14:08.43 | Epyon | G'mooorning #bzflag xD |
| 14:09.01 | donny_baker | morning |
| 14:10.19 | Winny | aftermorning |
| 14:12.21 | Winny | ~seen tankzilla |
| 14:12.48 | ibot | tankzilla <n=tankzill@ool-4571e8e3.dyn.optonline.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #guleague, 2d 18h 1m 37s ago, saying: 'his server *randomly* died.'. |
| 14:12.49 | CBG` | "our" tanner uses some other irc nick, iirc |
| 14:12.51 | CBG` | tannerbz or something |
| 14:13.00 | Winny | Oh yeah, "tannerld" |
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| 14:59.51 | Rawk | wow, there is heaps on the dday server |
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| 15:46.56 | CIA-17 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14006 10/trunk/bzflag/src/game/ServerItem.cxx: if the name is empty, just return an empty string |
| 15:48.07 | CIA-17 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14007 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ServerMenu.cxx: initialize the selectedIndex to -1 (nothing is initially selected) and make sure we don't try to use it as an index if it's negative |
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| 15:49.59 | CIA-17 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14008 10/trunk/bzflag/include/bzfsAPI.h: quell connectionID is unused warning |
| 15:51.30 | CIA-17 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14009 10/trunk/bzflag/src/scene/Occluder.cxx: quell warning |
| 15:54.08 | CIA-17 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14010 10/trunk/bzflag/include/bzfsAPI.h: bah, unused, but being passed in -- probably should be pure virtual or it's stubbed, quelling differently. |
| 15:54.26 | Daveman | wow |
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| 16:01.53 | CIA-17 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14011 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ServerMenu.cxx: prevent crashing the client if there are no severs and someone tries to add to the favorites list |
| 16:03.59 | JeffM2501 | what is unused and passed int? |
| 16:04.39 | brlcad | connection id in disconnect() |
| 16:04.42 | brlcad | looks stubbed |
| 16:05.16 | JeffM2501 | ahh yeah |
| 16:05.22 | JeffM2501 | not everyone needs it so I stubbed it |
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| 16:05.32 | JeffM2501 | instead of making everyone implment it |
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| 16:17.45 | Daveman | Howdy JBdiGriz |
| 16:22.02 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, by your comits can I assume you ran and connected to a server ok? |
| 16:23.35 | brlcad | not yet |
| 16:24.26 | JeffM2501 | and all I got left is 1 "girl in the bathroom getin ready" time |
| 16:24.35 | CIA-17 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14012 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ServerMenu.cxx: don't display the search and keybinding help strings if there are no servers to search on nor add to favorites |
| 16:24.48 | brlcad | there are no servers in the list for me, hadn't tried a local server |
| 16:26.52 | ts | works for me now but no idea why.. |
| 16:27.20 | JeffM2501 | ts, well that would be because I fixed the bug |
| 16:27.38 | JeffM2501 | and sent you a botmail asking you to test said changes |
| 16:28.08 | JeffM2501 | non winsock needed a select to push the data out inside a #def that windows dosn't hit |
| 16:28.14 | ts | JeffM2501: I suspected the bug in ServerLink.cxx but you only updated the one in bzflag and not in bzadmin but both work now |
| 16:28.27 | JeffM2501 | bzadmin uses the one in bzflag |
| 16:28.30 | JeffM2501 | there is only one ;) |
| 16:28.35 | ts | JeffM2501: ibot did not notify me of any botmail |
| 16:28.45 | JeffM2501 | stupid bot :) |
| 16:32.08 | JeffM2501 | bzadmin uses a lot of files from main bz |
| 16:32.16 | JeffM2501 | it has few files itself |
| 16:32.46 | JeffM2501 | well I'm glad it works |
| 16:32.55 | JeffM2501 | if you find anything else let me know |
| 16:36.44 | JeffM2501 | tho I'll be gone in a bit |
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| 19:23.11 | me1 | Hello. I have a problem with 2.0.9 latest svn with getting sealed randomly. |
| 19:23.43 | delusional | sealed is usually a map problem, not a server problem |
| 19:24.11 | delusional | you're in too small a space, or falling through a mesh |
| 19:24.19 | me1 | I don't get sealed with 2.0.8 on windows |
| 19:24.37 | delusional | this is on a known "good" map? |
| 19:25.13 | me1 | this happens on TO, louman's desktop, and the two tanks. There might be some others, too. |
| 19:25.38 | me1 | It only happens when I boot in linux, afaik |
| 19:26.10 | delusional | could be simple lag |
| 19:26.51 | me1 | It usually happens when I go through a teleporter |
| 19:27.17 | me1 | I don't think lag is the problem, I get lower lag and jit then lost of people yet they don't get stuck |
| 19:28.24 | me1 | Its not so random on when it happens, if it happens on one spot it always happens, its just i can't tell where it'll be |
| 19:28.35 | delusional | idunno.. they're not supporting 2.0.9 all that much lately, not much reason to use an extremely recent client. |
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| 20:16.56 | me1 | in raintypes for 2.1.x because of the changes in the data folder set up i think you need to set the texture for raintype particle to "skins/red/super_bolt.png" not "red_super_bolt.png" |
| 20:18.43 | AAA_awright | Can you make it rain images from HTTP now? (pleasesayyes) |
| 20:19.49 | AAA_awright | It would be neat to use URI's, for example tex:red_super_bolt and http://domain/dogsandcats.png |
| 20:21.13 | me1 | nope |
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| 20:58.21 | Winny | donny_baker: ping |
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| 21:20.54 | Winny | ~lart tannerld |
| 21:20.54 | ibot | duct-tapes tannerld to the floor and drools on him |
| 21:20.59 | Winny | hehe |
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| 21:37.15 | Sir_Pants | is it going to be possible for an admin to message an entire team, rather than individual players or all players? say like /msg teamred "blah blah" |
| 21:37.57 | tannerld | i've done it with BZFlag_Info but that doesn't really count |
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| 23:02.35 | The_Vaxorcist | How do I add a source file to the bzflag tree? (I'm an idiot when it comes to automake) |
| 23:05.05 | a_meteorite | add it to the makefiles |
| 23:06.03 | The_Vaxorcist | Which files? not Makefile, I assume |
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| 23:06.17 | a_meteorite | um, let me check |
| 23:07.41 | a_meteorite | Makefile.in, I believe |
| 23:08.32 | The_Vaxorcist | That's what I thought |
| 23:08.35 | a_meteorite | sorry, I'm wrong, makefile.am |
| 23:08.48 | a_meteorite | Makefile.am is distributed in bzflag's source, makefile.in is not |
| 23:09.09 | The_Vaxorcist | Yeah |
| 23:09.44 | a_meteorite | makefile.in is generated by autogen.sh I think |
| 23:10.31 | The_Vaxorcist | ok, thanks |
| 23:10.37 | The_Vaxorcist | just double checking |
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| 23:20.03 | Sir_Pants | ... |
| 23:21.34 | a_meteorite | ... |
| 23:22.59 | Sir_Pants | for some reason i couldnt see any of the chat in this channel |
| 23:23.34 | a_meteorite | pwnt |
| 23:27.14 | blast007 | a_meteorite: heh, you were having that problem earlier on another channel, so, pwnt ;) |
| 23:27.32 | Sir_Pants | had the same problem on the mapping channel |
