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| 01:14.21 | spldart | meh.. who was it who pm'd me last night when I was chasing kids offering help on mach64 ATI RageXL 4 linux? :( I shoulda logged :( forgot |
| 01:18.39 | inchworm | way too much traffic here to page up too |
| 01:18.43 | inchworm | find out |
| 01:19.08 | spldart | true but they PM'd me :( |
| 01:19.18 | spldart | Somebody who frequents here |
| 01:19.20 | spldart | poo |
| 01:19.58 | inchworm | hehe |
| 01:57.02 | brad | 2.1 .. observers don't show up in lagstats? |
| 01:57.19 | brad | is that a bug or feature |
| 02:01.02 | a_meteorite | they really don't have an effect :\ |
| 02:01.56 | spldart | I had thought it was a feature... been that way in head code for a long while |
| 02:02.04 | spldart | But I dunno |
| 02:03.02 | brad | ok, I was just wondering |
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| 02:48.53 | spldart | woohoo |
| 02:50.24 | a_meteorite | woot? |
| 02:50.58 | spldart | haven some super mega maya maya fun on norang rabbit |
| 02:53.04 | spldart | Hope nobody mines.. I got a question about a nic card in my number four bzflag client machine... the stupid NIC chip DM9009AF lspci says Davidcom or something like that... Always grabs the same ip ineveitably causing a collision with another machine... It's stuck on 192.168.0.6 no matter what no matter windows or linux |
| 02:53.08 | spldart | Any thoughts? |
| 02:53.51 | spldart | This is the second machine I've installed this nic in too... always 192.168.0.6 |
| 02:55.11 | spldart | ooOOoo... back says model ue1205D |
| 02:57.06 | blast007 | running the DHCP client on that machine? |
| 02:58.17 | spldart | don't think so... like I said.. multi mobo's multi os's it's always 192.168.0.6... unless there is a switch in the nic chipset |
| 02:58.29 | spldart | stupid nic |
| 02:59.38 | blast007 | well, I mean, you should be running the DHCP client...assuming you want to use DHCP on your network |
| 03:00.41 | spldart | I thought my router was handling assiging addresses per request...... Unless I misunderstand |
| 03:01.27 | blast007 | DHCP client, not the server |
| 03:01.27 | blast007 | the client is the one that requests an IP from your router |
| 03:01.27 | spldart | I know I've told it certain mac addy's only get a specific IP with only specific rules |
| 03:01.42 | spldart | Doesn't each boxen... windows or linux take care of it's personal client duties? |
| 03:02.36 | blast007 | well, you have to tell them to use DHCP |
| 03:02.52 | blast007 | you might have it set up as a static IP address |
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| 03:03.29 | spldart | I did try to assign a machie with this card and windows as a static ip other than the one it's stuck on.... The card then fails to communicate hehe |
| 03:04.22 | spldart | The same way I've assigned other boxes with windows to a specific IP... Heck... I can tell the router... See that mac... give it this addy... That just kills this mic too |
| 03:04.32 | spldart | But works on all the other rigs... |
| 03:05.09 | a_meteorite | I do that too |
| 03:05.10 | spldart | My only solution is to manually assign every other machine in this house to an ip other than .0.6 but if I do that then this little nic has won the war :mad: |
| 03:05.16 | a_meteorite | it's called "static DHCP" - how ironic |
| 03:05.49 | a_meteorite | never had any problems with it except that one time my integrated nic went kapooey |
| 03:07.04 | spldart | I'll have to assume this nic is bad and good....yah know :-( |
| 03:09.19 | blast007 | spldart: someone on slackware had DHCP issues with that card too |
| 03:09.40 | blast007 | well, maybe not the exact card, but a davicom |
| 03:10.00 | blast007 | is it an actual card, or onboard? |
| 03:10.09 | spldart | ah... well that makes me feel a bit better...hehehe... |
| 03:10.23 | spldart | like I said... multiple mobo's even.... actual card :) |
| 03:10.45 | blast007 | heh, might as well junk it ;) |
| 03:10.47 | blast007 | nics are cheap |
| 03:11.11 | spldart | yeppers... just thought I'd break the silence with a query to get some juices flowing |
| 03:11.11 | blast007 | or if you want to live with it, set up the router to start dynamic addresses at .10 or .20 |
| 03:11.50 | spldart | meh.. I've been meaning to do static through the whole house anywho... I'll 'fix' it that way :) |
| 03:11.58 | blast007 | :) |
| 03:12.12 | blast007 | I do static for everything except my virtual machines, and my laptop |
| 03:12.15 | spldart | It's the wierdest problem though hehe |
| 03:12.28 | blast007 | it's probably a flaky driver |
| 03:12.41 | spldart | in windows and linux? |
| 03:12.45 | blast007 | ewww |
| 03:12.45 | spldart | that would be odd |
| 03:12.49 | blast007 | or maybe the card just sucks |
| 03:12.53 | spldart | YES |
| 03:13.08 | spldart | I think that's my problem.... card with tiny singularity in it's chipset |
| 03:22.31 | blast007 | someone is cooking Flash! hide the butter! |
| 03:22.58 | a_meteorite | the question I'm dying to know... can we share Flash? |
| 03:23.13 | blast007 | I want a drumstick |
| 03:23.35 | a_meteorite | aw man, he stopped cooking |
| 03:23.41 | a_meteorite | get back in the pan |
| 03:24.17 | spldart | sniff sniff |
| 03:24.27 | spldart | must..... resist..... cannibal.... tendencies |
| 03:24.30 | Flash | how did you know ?? I was cooking in another chanel! |
| 03:24.43 | spldart | the smell was wafting over here |
| 03:24.47 | Flash | spldart: that assumes we are the same species.... |
| 03:24.54 | spldart | Your quite an aromatic bouquet |
| 03:25.04 | Flash | is a spldart anything like a lawn dart? |
| 03:25.05 | spldart | true... Are you Galgameck? |
| 03:25.34 | spldart | nope... not lawn dart |
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| 04:16.35 | DTRemenak | Flash: more like dodge dart ;) |
| 04:17.19 | Flash | I don't get why it's called dodgeball; not a lot of chance to dodge |
| 04:18.53 | SportChick | retro!! |
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| 04:22.51 | spldart | http://spldart.opencombat.net:92/trophies.jpg |
| 04:28.25 | Flash | spldart is either very good at something or has no social life |
| 04:29.06 | bryjen | or both |
| 04:29.17 | PrezKennedy | or neither! |
| 04:29.22 | bryjen | or the former because of the latter |
| 04:29.29 | Flash | spldart runs a used trophy store |
| 04:29.44 | Flash | lots of people sell, but not too many buy |
| 04:29.48 | spldart | I used to compete at car stereo competitions... 3 international organizations... IASCA, USAC, DB DRAG |
| 04:29.57 | spldart | top 10 in the world 3 years running |
| 04:30.34 | spldart | Both Sound quality and Sound Pressure Level |
| 04:31.02 | Flash | eh?? what?? speak up! |
| 04:31.24 | spldart | they do over exagerate what causes damage to hearing |
| 04:31.40 | spldart | My system was hitting 163.8db back in the 90's :) |
| 04:31.51 | spldart | I walled up my first car back in the 80's |
| 04:37.12 | shorty114 | short_circuit: walled? |
| 04:37.22 | shorty114 | as in totaled it into a wall? |
| 04:38.39 | short_circuit | Wall of subwoofers |
| 04:38.47 | short_circuit | first wall was 6 15's |
| 04:38.54 | short_circuit | last wall was 8 18's |
| 04:39.10 | short_circuit | was about to do 12 18's when I finally decided to stop for a while |
| 04:52.09 | brlcad | short_circuit: interesting hobby |
| 05:09.32 | PrezKennedy | now if only you could plug your car into your TV |
| 05:11.24 | brlcad | heya PrezKennedy how's the district holding up? |
| 05:11.48 | PrezKennedy | its nice down here |
| 05:14.48 | PrezKennedy | saw theres a new osgaming site in the hood |
| 05:17.01 | brlcad | yeah, he contacted |
| 05:17.08 | brlcad | I told him to try and get in touch with you |
| 05:17.14 | brlcad | he was a little miffed :) |
| 05:17.37 | brlcad | you saw the thread posting? |
| 05:17.53 | PrezKennedy | yeah i track all instances of "osgaming" in google |
| 05:17.58 | PrezKennedy | came up pretty fast |
| 05:17.59 | PrezKennedy | :-P |
| 05:19.01 | brlcad | :) |
| 05:20.43 | SportChick | brlcad: I almost pinged you from sushi ;) |
| 05:21.11 | Quol | anybody know if this is normal (in bzfs log file): 2007-01-23 05:17:58: groupdb: Cannot remove unknown permission SET |
| 05:21.25 | Quol | if I do a everyone|verified -all? |
| 05:22.45 | brlcad | :) |
| 05:23.04 | brlcad | SportChick: I had enough sushi for at least two people just last night |
| 05:23.19 | Quol | never mind - think I figured it out :) |
| 05:23.22 | SportChick | brlcad: there's no such thing as enough sushi for 2 |
| 05:23.26 | SportChick | or for 1 ;) |
| 05:23.47 | brlcad | i dunno.. i'm absolutely stuffed myself several times.. |
| 05:24.00 | SportChick | hehe |
| 05:24.07 | brlcad | where I really could not eat another bite, not even a thin wafer |
| 05:24.11 | SportChick | brlcad: well I had plenty |
| 05:24.19 | SportChick | but I was thrilled :) |
| 05:26.14 | SportChick | brlcad: I was hoping you'd stop by ##essy and meet caivax - a spanish speaker |
| 05:26.39 | SportChick | but he's gone now |
| 05:30.44 | Quol | oops |
| 05:30.50 | Quol | s/ass/as |
| 05:31.59 | brlcad | heh |
| 05:32.09 | brlcad | ahh, sorry SportChick .. woulda |
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| 05:38.23 | Daddo | I'm sure people are tired of answering this question.... |
| 05:38.32 | Daddo | but I'm stupid....so..... |
| 05:38.33 | PrezKennedy | yep |
| 05:38.36 | PrezKennedy | haha |
| 05:38.42 | Daddo | listserver? |
| 05:38.57 | blast007 | what about it? |
| 05:39.35 | Daddo | it won't talk to me |
| 05:39.45 | Daddo | should i take it personally? |
| 05:39.50 | blast007 | probably |
| 05:39.53 | Daddo | :) |
| 05:39.56 | blast007 | just in the client? |
| 05:40.00 | Daddo | yes |
| 05:40.12 | blast007 | can you get to http://my.bzflag.org/db/?action=LIST in your browser? |
| 05:40.29 | Daddo | omg |
| 05:40.39 | brlcad | omg, no way! |
| 05:40.39 | Daddo | I really am an idiot :O) |
| 05:40.50 | Daddo | had a proxy server |
| 05:40.50 | PrezKennedy | like totally for real! |
| 05:41.01 | Daddo | like wow |
| 05:41.40 | Daddo | sorry was on vpn earlier |
| 05:42.00 | Daddo | I will slink off with my tail between my legs |
| 05:42.51 | PrezKennedy | brlcad, this osgamer site has links to download copyrighted software like simtower on it |
| 05:43.38 | brlcad | nice |
| 05:44.18 | Daddo | ok so maybe I'm only 3/4 an idiot |
| 05:44.42 | Daddo | I can now get to the url via web browser....but client still unhappy |
| 05:47.15 | Daddo | are other folks able to connect? |
| 05:48.35 | PrezKennedy | http://www.netscape.com/member/matt/ |
| 05:48.55 | PrezKennedy | 2000 views even though i never go there |
| 05:50.46 | Daddo | anyone? blast007? |
| 05:50.54 | Flash | Daddo: can you edit your config file? |
| 05:50.58 | Daddo | yes |
| 05:51.10 | Flash | try "set list http://my.BZFlag.org:81/db/ |
| 05:51.23 | Daddo | actually - i jut blew away the entire configuration and re-set it |
| 05:51.29 | Daddo | ok |
| 05:51.34 | Flash | ok, the set list should be commented out |
| 05:51.41 | Flash | uncomment it and try port 81 |
| 05:53.20 | Daddo | no joy....I'd better check Mcafee and the firewall |
| 05:53.23 | brlcad | PrezKennedy: nice alias..lucky |
| 05:54.59 | Daddo | nope - I think I'll try a reboot and worry about it tomorrow :) |
| 05:55.00 | PrezKennedy | i jumped on as soon as i heard it was out |
| 05:55.04 | Daddo | thanks for trying |
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| 05:56.15 | brlcad | PrezKennedy: that's still incredibly freaking lucky :) |
| 05:56.21 | brlcad | for such a common name |
| 05:56.29 | brlcad | nifty |
| 06:00.31 | PrezKennedy | hardly ever there though |
| 06:00.41 | PrezKennedy | mostly on newsvine trying to keep the crackpots from taking over |
| 06:20.41 | [NP]Tangent | alright |
| 06:20.44 | [NP]Tangent | this ISP sucks |
| 06:20.47 | [NP]Tangent | stupid qwest |
| 06:20.52 | [NP]Tangent | high speed internet my rear |
| 06:20.57 | [NP]Tangent | >:( |
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| 18:30.35 | SportChick | hi TimRiker |
| 18:31.42 | SportChick | good to see you TimRiker :) |
| 18:33.00 | TimRiker | I've been swamped in RL... anything happening that I should hear about? |
| 18:33.21 | Erroneous | mm, rl |
| 18:33.33 | TimRiker | ~rl |
| 18:33.34 | ibot | methinks rl is Real Life (the bad world out there), or known as the Big Blue Box (tm). Conways game using only rational numbers |
| 18:33.59 | Erroneous | oh, I know what it is, I was just contemplating it |
| 18:34.01 | Erroneous | :) |
| 18:34.42 | Erroneous | and there's not too much happening around here, at least that I can remember |
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| 18:39.02 | TimRiker | anyone start working on list server redundancy? I keep meaning to get back to BZFlag and see what needs to happen to get 2.1 out the door. I'm just slacking. :( |
| 18:39.33 | TimRiker | if someone knows the list to start from, or wants to build one and email me that would be nice. |
| 18:40.32 | TimRiker | I'm still handling COPPA requests, and occasional password issues, but other than that I've not been hacking on much BZFlag'ish |
| 18:44.12 | Erroneous | there hasn't been much hacking going on at all. things have been pretty slow |
| 18:44.26 | Erroneous | afaik noone has been working on list redundancy either |
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| 19:03.14 | Erroneous | brlcad works too quietly :) |
| 19:03.20 | brlcad | but to not jinx it like something else was *coughloggingcough*, I'm just not talking about it much |
| 19:03.52 | Erroneous | hehe |
| 19:04.03 | brlcad | so vaporware until you see the commits, but that is something I've been working on |
| 19:04.30 | brlcad | not using the existing infrastructure, though, so you might not like it tim.. or maybe you will -- who knows ;) |
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| 19:49.47 | Manu | Birdie: pong |
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| 20:50.21 | brad | someone impersonating |
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| 20:51.34 | QuantumTim | nslookup brad.bz |
| 20:51.37 | QuantumTim | uhh |
| 20:51.40 | brad | lol |
| 20:51.41 | QuantumTim | wrong window :p |
| 20:52.27 | QuantumTim | I was wondering if that was your server's IP or if you were subtly trying to get any hackers in the channel to go after the IP for you :p |
| 20:53.11 | brad | hehe |
| 20:54.26 | QuantumTim | yeah yeah :p |
| 20:54.50 | brad | ;) |
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| 21:03.25 | donny_baker | from norang logs:71.234.122.233 c-71-234-122-233.hsd1.ct.comcast.net unregistered nick - redroof |
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| 21:11.11 | whispershadow | any1 here? |
| 21:11.21 | donny_baker | lots |
| 21:11.23 | brlcad | nope |
| 21:11.25 | Thumper_ | no. we're not home right now. leave a message |
| 21:11.25 | whispershadow | hi |
| 21:11.29 | whispershadow | lol |
| 21:11.36 | brlcad | yeah, we're funny |
| 21:11.44 | Erroneous | leave a message after the tone, Thumper_ :) |
| 21:11.53 | whispershadow | nifty shifty schivifty five |
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| 21:11.59 | brlcad | *beeeeep*! |
| 21:12.08 | whispershadow | hi this is whispershadow |
| 21:12.15 | brlcad | *click* |
| 21:12.16 | whispershadow | i think that the world should blow up |
| 21:12.17 | Thumper_ | but I got a tone... when Erroneous triggered my highlight... |
| 21:12.22 | whispershadow | could you arrainge it? |
| 21:12.25 | whispershadow | *arrange |
| 21:12.29 | whispershadow | or whatever |
| 21:12.32 | Erroneous | hehe |
| 21:12.45 | whispershadow | no thats wrong, entierly erronius |
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| 21:12.54 | whispershadow | *erroneous |
| 21:13.00 | whispershadow | or whatever |
| 21:13.02 | Erroneous | :) |
| 21:13.41 | brlcad | heh, twoud |
| 21:13.48 | Erroneous | heh |
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| 23:51.45 | Draicone | Does anyone know if distribution of binaries via bittorrent is allowed per the terms of the license? |
| 23:52.25 | blast007 | I suppose, though I don't see a reason to do so |
| 23:52.53 | blast007 | we would prefer to be able to track the number of downloads via the SourceForge download system |
| 23:53.19 | Draicone | True |
| 23:53.29 | Draicone | I've sort of been hosting a BZFlag torrent on my site for the past month or so |
| 23:53.42 | Draicone | I added a link to it from the wiki, and it's had about 250 completed downloads so far |
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| 23:54.28 | CBG | iirc, you MUST provide the source of the binaries that you are distrobuting. |
| 23:54.36 | CBG | JeffM2501, is that correct? |
| 23:54.52 | Erroneous | yes, but not necessarily at the same time |
| 23:55.03 | Erroneous | for instance, you may distribute our stock binaries with no source |
| 23:55.05 | Draicone | So, I can have a torrent of the sources and a torrent of the binaries? |
| 23:55.13 | Erroneous | that is also correct |
| 23:55.32 | Draicone | Alright then, I'll download the sources and create a torrent of them as well |
| 23:55.33 | Erroneous | essentially you need to be prepared to give anyone who asks for it the exact sources that were used to build the binaries |
| 23:55.40 | CBG | ~Erroneous++ |
| 23:55.57 | Erroneous | you don't actually need to distribute both at the same time, or from the same server |
| 23:56.33 | Erroneous | if you're distributing stock copies, and you trust SF to not die on you, you can actually refer people to SF to get the sources |
| 23:56.56 | Erroneous | if you make any source changes you need to have that all available somewhere |
| 23:57.06 | Draicone | That might be easier actually, my host is complaining I'm using 50% of the CPU on 10 torrents :| |
| 23:57.16 | CBG | Eek.. |
| 23:57.17 | Erroneous | heh |
| 23:57.25 | brlcad | yeah, if you don't make a modification, you're "practically" kosher to redistribute in whatever free manner you please |
| 23:57.26 | Draicone | I'm just distributing the win32 binaries from sourceforge and the unofficial max dmg |
| 23:57.29 | Draicone | mac* |
| 23:58.44 | Erroneous | technically you should retain a copy of the sources also...if SF decides to "pull the plug", and you still have a copy of the binaries up, you are liable to distribute the sources, not them :) |
| 23:59.00 | Erroneous | practically though, if sf does do something of that nature, we'll just host them elsewhere anyway |
| 23:59.31 | brlcad | aside from being rather pissed about it too |
| 23:59.40 | JeffM2501 | why is a torrent needed for that? are the SF mirrors not good enough? |
| 23:59.50 | brlcad | but only some adverse legal action would likely acause that |
