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00:07.22 | sniper1234 | h |
00:07.35 | sniper1234 | llo |
00:08.05 | AAA_awright | ...okay |
00:08.14 | brad | heh |
00:18.48 | spldart | IT'S FIXED!!!!!!!!! |
00:19.38 | spldart | using the salvagable deb install to backup hda1,2,3,4,5 to other rigs on the lan... gotta reinstall from scratch though |
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00:42.36 | Brezell | hi. How can I register my nick on bzflag? |
00:42.45 | spldart | bzbb |
00:42.52 | Brezell | Just in the forum? |
00:42.56 | blast007 | yup |
00:42.59 | Brezell | ok, thanks |
00:43.01 | spldart | make an account for the forum and it will translate to a login |
00:43.07 | Brezell | ah, i c |
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00:56.40 | spldart | Just cuz I've been bishing about it all day... http://spldart.opencombat.net:92/fixdually.htm wiring not cleaned back up yet and I still have to reinstall everything :( |
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01:17.49 | spldart | bzbb abuse? |
01:18.02 | JeffM2501 | mostly just children who don't get it |
01:19.53 | JeffM2501 | no |
01:20.00 | CBG | Yay for Power Abuse! :D |
01:20.01 | spldart | interesting |
01:20.04 | JeffM2501 | happens before when they get off school |
01:20.15 | spldart | that makes sense |
01:20.21 | CBG | did I go too far? |
01:20.27 | spldart | ? |
01:20.28 | JeffM2501 | not if that's what you want |
01:20.56 | CBG | somewhat defeats the purpose... |
01:20.58 | spldart | I've prolly banned a couple dozen or more at my server over the last 20 months |
01:21.09 | CBG | That's all? |
01:21.15 | JeffM2501 | not if you have a huge whitelist :) |
01:21.25 | spldart | maybe 3 doz... that and the masterbanlist stuff |
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01:22.16 | spldart | Yah gotta realize... I'm doin good to have 12 to 15 players at one time on my servers |
01:22.18 | JeffM2501 | how has the "unknown" spam been lately? |
01:22.36 | A-Delusion | unknown |
01:22.38 | spldart | I've not heard much about it? |
01:22.43 | CBG | didn't hear of any more since that one night |
01:22.45 | spldart | not had a problem either |
01:22.52 | JeffM2501 | cool |
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01:43.14 | Gnurdux | Thumper_, what bugs in my plugins hvae you guys found? |
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02:49.02 | Teppic | spammer alert....... |
02:51.20 | L4m3r | already cleaning it up |
02:51.42 | spldart | hehe |
02:52.02 | L4m3r | damn necro-posting bots |
02:53.08 | L4m3r | on a more positive note, I haven't noticed nearly as much lately... but that may just be because someone else is cleaning them up before I wake up ;) |
02:53.08 | Teppic | lol, probably |
02:58.25 | blast007 | L4m3r: no, there's just been less of it |
02:59.39 | L4m3r | that's good. nice work :P |
03:05.21 | cosmos | ok |
03:05.28 | cosmos | incest video on the ducati league discussion |
03:05.36 | cosmos | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=9773 |
03:05.36 | L4m3r | wtf |
03:05.50 | L4m3r | damn, missed one |
03:06.21 | cosmos | oh i thought duc league was just taking on a new direction |
03:06.26 | cosmos | heh |
03:08.15 | Thumper_ | Spamitor |
03:10.57 | L4m3r | ack! another one! |
03:15.37 | bryjen | guests posting in General Map Making Discussions ? |
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03:19.00 | blast007 | no, I think it was a deleted user, but we'll see |
03:19.12 | blast007 | got rid of it now |
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03:47.36 | Teppic | ~seen ducatiwannabe |
03:47.55 | ibot | ducatiwannabe <n=root@222.98.62.33> was last seen on IRC in channel #kierra, 352d 9h 47m 53s ago, saying: 'bitch'. |
03:48.04 | blast007 | eeek |
03:48.15 | inchworm | kinda rough |
03:48.21 | Teppic | lol |
03:48.59 | tannerld | lol |
03:49.00 | inchworm | what..that was almost exactly last christmas |
03:49.14 | Teppic | No, he may have been asked if it was a boy or girl dog. |
03:49.30 | inchworm | yah, lack of context, but still |
03:50.35 | Teppic | Perhaps ' ducatiwannabe <n=root@222.98.62.33> was last seen in the sights of kierra's Mp5' would be more appropriate |
03:50.47 | inchworm | hehe, yah |
03:52.20 | inchworm | bah |
03:52.25 | inchworm | bah humbug |
03:52.35 | tannerld | :o |
03:52.55 | inchworm | access in no rooty tooty |
03:53.07 | inchworm | and a quota'd homespace |
03:54.21 | Teppic | How big a quota? |
03:54.27 | inchworm | 200mg |
03:54.31 | inchworm | 200 mb |
03:54.31 | Teppic | hmm... |
03:54.44 | inchworm | and i'me using about 50 right now i think |
03:55.03 | inchworm | make that 150 |
03:55.06 | inchworm | hehe |
03:55.16 | Teppic | <PROTECTED> |
03:55.17 | Teppic | <PROTECTED> |
03:55.17 | Teppic | <PROTECTED> |
03:55.27 | inchworm | yah, it's solaris box |
03:55.38 | Teppic | 3.5 meg, not too bad, but thats bzipped. |
03:55.55 | Teppic | Yeah, but for package size...... |
03:56.01 | inchworm | yah, and after compile |
03:56.17 | inchworm | i had an experince that things grow massivly during compile |
03:56.17 | Teppic | That is compiled |
03:56.23 | inchworm | hmm |
03:57.00 | inchworm | i'll give it a twirl and see if i can get it to compile in my homespace |
03:57.44 | Teppic | 16M uncompressed. |
03:58.36 | inchworm | hmm wonder if i have the dependencies for compile from source |
03:59.14 | Teppic | I'll just check them for you...... |
03:59.14 | inchworm | hmm sol10 binaries |
03:59.25 | inchworm | i think i'm on sol8 or 9 |
04:00.12 | Teppic | What support do you need, there are quite afew deps, but they are all support related, so can be ignored if unneeded |
04:00.46 | inchworm | i want text and gifs |
04:00.51 | inchworm | nothing else right now |
04:01.02 | inchworm | basically i'm just annoting images on the fly |
04:01.08 | inchworm | annotating |
04:01.10 | inchworm | * |
04:01.55 | inchworm | and it's a just for fun project i thought i could wipe up in a couple hours (my estimates are always too small by several factors) |
04:02.13 | Teppic | I'd guess at :- X sed libtool , the rest seems unnneded for what you want. |
04:02.25 | inchworm | why X ? |
04:02.47 | Teppic | Erm, ..... |
04:02.59 | inchworm | i'm firing it off from a web browers |
04:03.02 | inchworm | hmm |
04:03.16 | inchworm | er more accuratly a CGI script |
04:03.22 | Teppic | Sorry , thats dependant on needs too, so no X, just sed and libtool |
04:03.32 | inchworm | may this thing has it |
04:03.39 | inchworm | *maybe |
04:03.58 | inchworm | sun blade 1000 for a web server |
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04:04.17 | inchworm | kinda weak :-/ i wanted a 12k at least |
04:04.38 | inchworm | o well, keeps tuiton down i guess :) |
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04:08.35 | JeffM2501 | must... not ... throw.. macintosh!!!! |
04:08.50 | inchworm | JeffM2501 ?! |
04:09.09 | JeffM2501 | apple's dhcp client sucks and keeps jacking my router |
04:09.25 | L4m3r | but is it pretty? |
04:09.30 | JeffM2501 | no |
04:09.32 | inchworm | are you sure it is the client and not the router? |
04:09.33 | L4m3r | *cough* |
04:09.37 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
04:09.43 | inchworm | bummer then |
04:09.44 | JeffM2501 | tried more then one router |
04:09.55 | JeffM2501 | keeps trying to set it's IP to the same IP as the router |
04:10.05 | inchworm | hehe |
04:10.09 | L4m3r | nice |
04:10.16 | blast007 | lol |
04:10.21 | JeffM2501 | perantly we have the same problem at work |
04:10.29 | JeffM2501 | so static it goes |
04:10.40 | inchworm | well at least it's consistent |
04:11.00 | inchworm | ok, just blew my quota |
04:11.28 | inchworm | :-/ |
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04:11.37 | master_tux | hi all |
04:11.44 | inchworm | hi master_tux |
04:12.20 | inchworm | you wouldn't have web space for a poor college student that needs perl:CGI and imagemagik would you |
04:12.28 | inchworm | :) |
04:12.35 | spldart | hehe |
04:12.59 | master_tux | sorry, my router witholds me of allowing anything to connect :( |
04:13.15 | inchworm | i understand, mine is the same |
04:14.18 | inchworm | *sigh* silly little quota, silly little webserver, silly little me |
04:14.36 | L4m3r | just buy some webhosting... it's cheap |
04:15.02 | master_tux | yea, like 1,500 bucks a month |
04:15.06 | inchworm | read "cheap, poor, college student that likes to mooch free stuff" :) |
04:15.26 | inchworm | i could pay like 5 bucks a month more and get a static IP |
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04:15.38 | master_tux | static ips are expensive... |
04:16.02 | SilverFox | get a cable modem. Nearly as good as a static. |
04:16.13 | inchworm | live to far out of town |
04:16.22 | inchworm | i'm lucky to get the radio broadband i have |
04:16.26 | SilverFox | too bad. |
04:16.31 | SilverFox | dyndns.org then. |
04:16.35 | blast007 | inchworm: I pay $30/year for my shared hosting |
04:16.37 | master_tux | 0_o I have optimum cable, bow to me! |
04:16.44 | inchworm | heh |
04:16.56 | inchworm | blast007: cool, i'll have to look at that |
04:16.57 | blast007 | only 75MB/3GB though |
04:17.08 | inchworm | hmm |
04:17.13 | SilverFox | who do you use blast? |
04:17.18 | inchworm | not bad for the price i guess |
04:17.22 | blast007 | A Small Orange |
04:17.26 | master_tux | Can blender export to .bzw? |
04:17.33 | blast007 | well, at last for now |
04:17.44 | blast007 | I'll be migrating it to my dedicated server soon |
04:18.09 | SilverFox | 75 MB storage, 3 Gig throughput per month? |
04:18.12 | blast007 | (either that, or I'll leave it there until next year, since it's already paid for) |
04:18.16 | blast007 | yeah |
04:18.22 | inchworm | 75 meg would be plenty. my perl script is under 100 lines |
04:18.26 | SilverFox | that seems very reasonable. |
04:18.31 | master_tux | I steal my cable connection from the local plumbing company... |
04:18.50 | blast007 | excellent support to |
04:19.00 | blast007 | when I emailed them, I had a response within the hour |
04:19.16 | master_tux | tech support sucks |
04:19.19 | blast007 | oh, and it's $25/year it seems |
04:19.37 | master_tux | For shame! |
04:19.39 | SilverFox | $25/14 months. |
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04:19.49 | Teppic | inchworm , you can have some of my companies webspace if you want, I stop trading at the end of the year |
04:19.51 | Philbrick0340 | hey everyone |
04:19.53 | SilverFox | no? |
04:20.06 | master_tux | hi phil |
04:20.12 | SilverFox | Teppic, trading? |
04:20.37 | Teppic | Close the company down |
04:20.55 | SilverFox | ah. Does that mean the space/servers will disappear? |
04:21.10 | inchworm | Teppic: thanks, this is an embarssingly small christmas ecard kinda thing i am just having fun with |
04:21.12 | Teppic | Nah, it's paid up till late june |
04:21.54 | Teppic | And 'most' of the servers are here anyhow |
04:22.14 | master_tux | can blender export to .bzw? |
04:22.27 | Philbrick0340 | hey inchworm |
04:22.30 | inchworm | master_tux: i believe it can... |
04:22.34 | Philbrick0340 | have you been on here all day? |
04:22.47 | inchworm | Philbrick0340: virtually, yes, physically, no |
04:22.56 | Philbrick0340 | hahahaha nicee |
04:23.05 | master_tux | mentally, helllz yea |
04:23.40 | inchworm | master_tux: it might take a plugin of some sort, never done it, only remeber someone else here asked and was told that it did |
04:23.47 | Philbrick0340 | inchworm are you admin for servers or whar do you do? |
04:23.57 | master_tux | say, what ever happened to EFNet? |
04:24.18 | inchworm | Philbrick0340: i'm an admin on a couple servers, and i'm just hanging here because, i dunno anymore |
04:24.36 | Philbrick0340 | hahahh niceee |
04:24.45 | Philbrick0340 | i thinnk its kinda fun here |
04:25.10 | master_tux | inch, your client doesnt respond to CTCP requests? |
04:25.28 | inchworm | master_tux: i don't know, it should (irssi) |
04:25.35 | master_tux | linux? |
04:25.44 | inchworm | and it isn't behind anything, yah suse10.1 i think |
04:25.53 | Philbrick0340 | well i just stopped by to see if brlcad was back yet |
04:25.54 | inchworm | it's a university machine i log into |
04:25.57 | Philbrick0340 | but hes not |
04:25.57 | master_tux | meh |
04:26.21 | master_tux | << Slackware 11.0 |
04:26.24 | master_tux | w00t w00t |
04:26.26 | Philbrick0340 | later guys |
04:26.29 | master_tux | cya |
04:26.41 | inchworm | later Phil |
04:26.55 | inchworm | i had slack 10 at one point, not too bad |
04:27.13 | master_tux | yea, 11 comes with KDE though, not gnome |
04:27.21 | inchworm | so did 10 i think |
04:27.27 | inchworm | but i don't remember |
04:28.29 | master_tux | The vaccum guy? |
04:28.33 | master_tux | 0_O |
04:28.48 | inchworm | J. Edgar Hoover :) |
04:28.50 | inchworm | not |
04:28.52 | inchworm | :) |
04:29.05 | master_tux | Hoover the first man on the moon? |
04:29.12 | inchworm | heh |
04:29.25 | master_tux | Japenese executive? |
04:29.28 | inchworm | nice one Teppic |
04:29.40 | master_tux | Pork fry rie? |
04:29.41 | Teppic | OH, FFS, I've got ANOTHER 5 mod points, now I feel compelled to read below +5 funny. Damn thats 30points in 3 weeks. |
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04:30.03 | inchworm | head of the FBI, later became president, he used the power of the FBI in not always good ways |
04:31.33 | inchworm | o wells, about time for me to wrap it up |
04:31.41 | master_tux | 0_o |
04:31.52 | inchworm | what master_tux ? |
04:31.57 | master_tux | Theres a giant animal standing outside my bathroom door. |
04:32.24 | inchworm | tell bullwinckly to say hi to rocky |
04:32.43 | master_tux | Nah, its just my mom. |
04:32.47 | inchworm | one day i get moose and squirel! |
04:33.15 | master_tux | bullwinkel was an elf. |
04:33.43 | SilverFox | bullwinkle was a moose. |
04:33.43 | inchworm | ya don't say |
04:33.55 | inchworm | i was sure he was a moose |
04:34.05 | master_tux | bullwinkle shines Mr. Hoover's shoes. He's an elf. |
04:34.17 | SilverFox | My dad knew the guy who authored that cartoon. |
04:34.34 | master_tux | I wrote it. |
04:34.36 | SilverFox | Rocky & Bullwinkle. |
04:34.43 | master_tux | Thats me. |
04:34.50 | SilverFox | your a cartoon? |
04:34.55 | master_tux | No. |
04:35.03 | master_tux | I am the author of that cartoon. |
04:35.21 | SilverFox | The author died a few years ago. |
04:35.32 | master_tux | I've come back from the dead. |
04:35.38 | SilverFox | He was missing a leg. |
04:35.39 | Teppic | SilverFox , what ya gonna do with chillbox, i have the (non pouting kind) lips you wanted. |
04:35.51 | SilverFox | Or was. |
04:36.01 | SilverFox | He was also on the recovery mission for Apollo 13. |
04:36.03 | master_tux | Amazing what necrophelia can do to a dead mans heart. |
04:36.25 | Teppic | master_tux you are one sick individual. |
04:36.33 | SilverFox | he's also on my ignore list. |
04:36.42 | SilverFox | Teppic, sure, let me finish this post on the SC forum. |
04:37.32 | master_tux | What happened to EFNet. |
04:38.06 | blast007 | master_tux: why do we care? |
04:38.24 | master_tux | Because oranges are in danger. |
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04:41.39 | master_tux | Demonic death of destruction and darkness and death of decay and decimation and death. |
04:42.58 | SilverFox | k, done Teppic. |
04:43.07 | SilverFox | blast007, do as I do, /ignore master_tux |
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04:44.52 | inchworm | Teppic: thanks for the web space offer, I'm going to turn it down right now because I think i would waste you time setting it up for less than 30KB of stuff |
04:45.01 | Teppic | KK |
04:46.45 | spldart | o...k... |
04:48.23 | blast007 | for 30KB, can't you find a free host? :/ |
04:48.46 | inchworm | i have free web host space already, my problem is that the webserver doesn't have imagemagic |
04:48.57 | inchworm | and my little script needs that |
04:49.19 | inchworm | and it just fiddleing anyway, i'll approach it from a different angle and learn something new |
04:50.08 | inchworm | i could make it work if i had admin on the box, had more quota space, or was willing to remove stuff from my current homespace |
04:51.17 | inchworm | maybe i'll just install my own version of imagemagic in /tmp for now... that'd work and make me friends with the sys admin ;) |
04:53.18 | inchworm | hmm i could compile in /tmp and then install the binaries to my homespace |
04:53.39 | inchworm | i might have room for the binaries by themselves |
04:54.08 | inchworm | anywho, i'll quite rambling, goodnight folks |
04:54.59 | spldart | nighty night inch |
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05:04.58 | blast007 | :/ |
05:04.58 | L4m3r | boom |
05:04.58 | Legoguy | someone shot a bolt at the router |
05:04.58 | spldart | that's been happening more often lately hasn't it :-( |
05:04.58 | L4m3r | Someone Geno'd feenode! |
05:04.58 | Legoguy | lmao |
05:04.58 | Legoguy | there goes the blue team |
05:04.59 | L4m3r | lol |
05:04.59 | blast007 | hehe |
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05:22.20 | SilverFox | rofl |
05:22.32 | SilverFox | <--- delayed reaction |
05:25.02 | spldart | As I sit here cracking open assorted nuts with vice-grips |
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06:18.23 | bz47 | asdfasdf |
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15:19.03 | Philbrick0340 | hey everyone |
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15:21.48 | bz45 | hello all |
15:23.14 | bz45 | what meen "Enter the name of this game: *" here http://my.bzflag.org/bb/profile.php?mode=register&agreed=true ? |
15:32.14 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Looks like an anti-script feature. |
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15:34.11 | zee395 | hi |
15:34.23 | zee395 | fg |
15:34.27 | zee395 | é |
15:34.32 | bz45 | what meen "Enter the name of this game: *" here http://my.bzflag.org/bb/profile.php?mode=register&agreed=true ? |
15:34.58 | brad | what is the name of the game |
15:35.16 | bz45 | i don`t know |
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15:35.31 | bz45 | for ex ? |
15:35.32 | brad | then why are you registering |
15:35.57 | bz45 | please give me an ex |
15:35.58 | zee395 | somebody knows how to change the reloading time for shots |
15:36.13 | brad | "quake3" is an example :) |
15:36.22 | brad | but that's just a game in general |
15:36.39 | brad | your mission is to find the name of the game you are signing up for |
15:37.12 | bz45 | if i put there "bzflag", don`t let me to register |
15:37.33 | brad | it might be case sensitive |
15:37.47 | bz45 | ok |
15:37.49 | bz45 | tnx |
15:43.09 | blast007 | Fratello: did you get registered? |
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16:19.27 | shaunott | hi |
16:19.46 | shaunott | can anybody tell me how to apply a texture to a pyramid |
16:20.05 | shaunott | ive done: |
16:20.23 | shaunott | material name xxxx texture xxxx end |
16:20.34 | shaunott | how do i apply it to a pyramid? |
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16:23.06 | blast007 | shaunott: are you using a meshpyr? |
16:23.32 | shaunott | ive created it using bzedit |
16:23.39 | blast007 | then that's a no |
16:23.44 | shaunott | and it just says pyramid |
16:23.59 | blast007 | can't put a texture on a regular pyramid |
16:24.04 | blast007 | afaik |
16:24.15 | shaunott | ok, can i change the pryramid to a meshpry? |
16:24.36 | blast007 | yup, a meshpyr |
16:24.42 | shaunott | im trying to make a christmas tree :) |
16:25.04 | blast007 | I'm not sure of the exact syntax for applying the material |
16:25.20 | blast007 | not seeing it in the web-based man page either, but that's been known to cut things out |
16:25.32 | shaunott | can i just change pyramid to meshpyr |
16:25.40 | shaunott | and leave the scale etc |
16:30.24 | brad | http://bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking |
16:30.35 | shaunott | im on it now |
16:30.51 | brad | oh |
16:31.23 | shaunott | i dont understand meshpyr |
16:32.19 | blast007 | shaunott: you can try creating a simple map with one pyramid, one meshpyr, and a material |
16:32.22 | blast007 | then play around with them |
16:32.46 | shaunott | it worked! |
16:32.51 | blast007 | cool |
16:33.17 | shaunott | changed pryramid to meshpyr and added a matrerf line |
16:33.22 | shaunott | thanks everyone |
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17:30.43 | spldart | all right... how did I do it... there was a pop up menu in bzadmin... I bumped the keyboard and got a cool menu that alllowed me to dol all kinds of things real easy |
17:31.13 | spldart | I've been /command'ing all this time >:-(> |
17:31.18 | AAA_awright | Hm. Tab? |
17:33.33 | spldart | something more than that |
17:33.42 | spldart | poop... don't know what I did |
17:33.43 | AAA_awright | "Ctrl-U" |
17:33.58 | spldart | no working for me |
17:34.25 | spldart | it was so kew too |
17:35.17 | AAA_awright | F2! |
17:35.23 | AAA_awright | No |
17:35.55 | spldart | I already F'd everythjing |
17:35.57 | spldart | wait |
17:35.59 | spldart | that didn't sound right |
17:36.26 | AAA_awright | lol |
17:37.10 | SportChick | an 77 |
17:38.25 | spldart | "? |
17:39.50 | AAA_awright | It is possible to bring up a menu... |
17:39.53 | AAA_awright | but _how_ |
17:42.58 | spldart | The top portion of the terminal blanked out with a centered menu... menu was layered with submenu's in which you could get player info's or view /set ings etc |
17:43.03 | spldart | twas very kew |
17:43.20 | inchworm | it's F2 for me |
17:43.22 | inchworm | in bzadmin |
17:43.32 | spldart | ah |
17:43.36 | inchworm | your milage shouldn't vary |
17:43.45 | spldart | I think I figured something out |
17:43.48 | inchworm | cool |
17:44.15 | inchworm | i also figured something out, but it wasn't good for my scripting |
17:45.01 | spldart | I'm locking it up by goin to message filter... |
17:45.26 | spldart | I never knew that menu existed.. I'm icy hot stunted |
17:48.12 | inchworm | hehe |
17:53.26 | AAA_awright | I still cannot bring it up... |
17:54.03 | AAA_awright | Anything special, becides F2? |
17:56.36 | inchworm | btw, the menu is a little funky IMO, hit f2 to get it, hit f2 again to move focus to the chat, hit f2 yet again to stay in chat and remove the menu |
17:56.52 | inchworm | AAA_awright: i don't know of anything |
17:56.59 | inchworm | look around on the forums? |
17:57.34 | AAA_awright | There is only one post I can find, it is about using it on OS X, not my problem |
17:58.32 | inchworm | hmm, dunno, never used it remotely, but i wouldn't think it would be a problem |
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18:03.33 | spldart | hhehh |
18:04.43 | AAA_awright | hmmmm |
18:04.51 | brad | I got it working in putty.. |
18:05.04 | brad | you need to change something though |
18:05.10 | CBG | hmm |
18:05.31 | brad | go to putty settings |
18:05.42 | brad | Terminal->Keyboard |
18:06.02 | brad | "The function keys and keypad" |
18:06.24 | brad | choose .... |
18:06.39 | brad | "Xterm R6" |
18:06.48 | brad | and that should make it work :P |
18:06.58 | AAA_awright | It works :D |
18:07.00 | blast007 | AAA_awright: also, it's only for the curses based bzadmin |
18:07.03 | blast007 | oh :) |
18:07.09 | AAA_awright | thanks |
18:07.12 | brad | np |
18:07.51 | blast007 | suppose it depends on the linux system |
18:08.00 | blast007 | I could use the defaults on my slackware system |
18:08.10 | blast007 | but I had to change it for debian |
18:08.28 | brad | yep |
18:08.37 | blast007 | using Xterm R6 for debian |
18:20.28 | spldart | what did you have to change for deb? |
18:21.06 | spldart | I'm using deb sarge, xterm and libncurses |
18:23.46 | blast007 | I had to set PuTTY to Xterm R6 mode |
18:24.03 | spldart | oh oh |
18:24.06 | spldart | my bad |
18:24.54 | spldart | Can I bug compy geeks for a bit of OT advice? |
18:25.27 | inchworm | ? |
18:25.38 | AAA_awright | o.o |
18:25.52 | spldart | Getting ready to reinstall dual proccessor rig I've been fixing on all week |
18:26.00 | inchworm | cool |
18:27.14 | spldart | Old HDD partitions were hda1 137 gig ntfs for xp, hda2 100 gig ntfs for storage, hda3 20 gig fat 32 for windows and linux to be able to write to and hda4 was ext3 for debian.. about 50 gig |
18:28.29 | spldart | I'm considering shrinking down hda1 to 20 gig ntfs for windows, hda2 ext3 at about 30 gig for linux, hda3 huge ntfs for storage and hda4 20 gig fat32 again for both to write too? thoughts? |
18:28.30 | inchworm | seems semi-rational |
18:28.50 | inchworm | seems reasonable |
18:29.05 | spldart | I don't installmuch on windows... Linux is getting used more and more |
18:29.37 | spldart | You think that would be an improvment? I think it prolly would.. |
18:29.59 | inchworm | depending on what you put on windows, yes |
18:30.15 | spldart | BTW this is is additoion to an array raid that I used for fast video editing work... 500 gig array |
18:30.17 | inchworm | i found that 20 gig is a little small for an OS |
18:30.34 | inchworm | an associated stuff that accumulates |
18:30.47 | inchworm | the raid is usable by both? |
18:31.09 | spldart | I've found I'm pretty good at keeping installs cleaned up and the fact I'm using linux more and more is contributing further to that effect... but |
18:31.16 | spldart | 30 gig might be a good idea? |
18:31.21 | spldart | instead of 20 |
18:31.34 | inchworm | i think so, just so you have some head room for largish temporary files |
18:32.03 | spldart | btw the other advantage was keeping both os's grouped towards the beginning of the drive for faster access times |
18:32.06 | inchworm | i'm running gentoo inside a 30 gb partition and i feel cramped right now |
18:32.19 | Birdie | blast007: you did so good job on removing the spam and now KAIRE shows up:) |
18:32.22 | spldart | yes but if gentoo had a large data partition too? |
18:32.38 | spldart | would you still be cramped? |
18:32.45 | inchworm | it would be fine if /home was mounted on a data partiiton |
18:33.11 | inchworm | but note that storing things on FAT loses the permission bits |
18:33.38 | spldart | true.... I had sacrificed that to allow both os's to RW to a common partition |
18:33.51 | spldart | ntfs support for linux being what it is |
18:34.01 | inchworm | agreed on that, i find that a problem as well |
18:34.05 | spldart | but otherwise |
18:34.34 | inchworm | seems like a decent setup |
18:34.39 | blast007 | Birdie: oh boy, looks like fun |
18:34.46 | spldart | thanks for bouncing the thoughts around.. I'll prolly go 30 win, 30 deb, 200+datantfs, 20datafat |
18:35.04 | inchworm | why the 200 ntfs? |
18:35.12 | inchworm | if you are moving to linux more and more? |
18:35.46 | spldart | main purpose for windows is video capture, dvd decrypt, store, tivo etc |
18:35.48 | inchworm | also note that there are ext3 and reiser drivers for windows these days |
18:35.55 | inchworm | ahh |
18:36.18 | spldart | setting up tv and dvd decrypt in linux is still difficult.. I haven't been successful yet |
18:36.25 | inchworm | go for it, the ntfs driver will most likely be fastest in windows |
18:36.42 | spldart | ntfs is REAL stable too...like ext3 |
18:36.54 | spldart | unlike fat hehe |
18:36.59 | inchworm | as you would hope in a FS :) |
18:37.51 | inchworm | now if we could just get write support in linux for ntfs |
18:38.53 | spldart | w0rd |
18:39.26 | inchworm | 08w0rd 06what? |
18:39.44 | inchworm | ~poke spldart |
18:39.50 | ibot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind spldart, pokes spldart repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
18:40.30 | spldart | ouch |
18:40.34 | spldart | sorry |
18:40.52 | inchworm | no problem i was just confused and bored, bad combo :) |
18:40.52 | spldart | 'word' Old slang for affirmitive response |
18:41.06 | inchworm | ahh, ok |
18:41.07 | spldart | circa late 80's |
18:41.22 | inchworm | yep, that's old ;) |
18:41.31 | spldart | so am I |
18:41.32 | spldart | :( |
18:41.48 | inchworm | heh |
18:41.52 | spldart | I'm a 60's vintage dry wine hehehehe |
18:41.52 | inchworm | fiddle sticks you are |
18:42.40 | inchworm | :) |
18:43.25 | spldart | I still can't believe how much time and trouble I went through to salvage my main computer... tuesday through yesterday for hardware failures/damage and no I'm undergoin reinstall |
18:43.40 | spldart | s/now/no |
18:44.24 | spldart | except for jumping on a head client for aminute or two during testing I haven't played any good BZ since last weekend... maybe a touch longer :( |
18:44.29 | inchworm | heh, labor is used when cash is short |
18:44.39 | spldart | w0rd!!! |
18:44.40 | spldart | lol |
18:44.45 | inchworm | :) |
18:44.55 | spldart | it's christmas.. I got 5 kids.... cash is short |
18:45.07 | inchworm | i would loan you hardware if I had any |
18:45.18 | spldart | which reminds me... gotta plugin my usb christmas tree |
18:45.23 | inchworm | i'm about to start a linux install myself |
18:45.28 | inchworm | move from gentoo to debian |
18:45.42 | inchworm | laptops and massive compiles aren't the best thing |
18:45.54 | spldart | I have to say I prefer deb over gentoo myself... and most other distro's |
18:45.58 | inchworm | usb christmas tree |
18:46.02 | spldart | yes |
18:46.07 | spldart | it changes colors and stuff |
18:46.10 | inchworm | can you control it or just get the power? |
18:46.21 | inchworm | sync it to music would be cool |
18:46.22 | spldart | just power... 7 colors |
18:46.25 | spldart | lOL |
18:46.26 | inchworm | aww |
18:46.43 | inchworm | hmm can you power cycle the thing via software? |
18:47.02 | inchworm | or is usb power direclty connected to power rather than controller powered |
18:47.06 | inchworm | probably directly |
18:48.05 | spldart | dir power |
18:48.14 | inchworm | hmm |
18:48.29 | spldart | but I had to have it... took it to work but now that it's so close I brought it home |
18:48.30 | inchworm | guess we need to figure out a controller chip and overclock your little tree :) |
18:49.24 | inchworm | i played with a motorola hc11 in school, would make a great controller, we could get it to power 8 different locations |
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18:51.19 | spldart | jus a sec |
18:52.31 | spldart | http://spldart.opencombat.net:92/usbtreered.jpg there is a usbtreeblue.jpg and usbtreegreen.jpg too.... hehe |
18:53.36 | inchworm | fancy |
18:53.47 | inchworm | kinda cool |
18:54.03 | spldart | does a bunch of colors n'stuff |
18:54.34 | inchworm | coolness |
18:55.08 | inchworm | only 6 gigs of data |
18:55.31 | spldart | I got so much untar'ing to do after I finish all my unzipping |
18:55.40 | inchworm | heh yah |
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19:21.21 | JeffM2501 | yay for fun rental cards |
19:22.09 | spldart | ? |
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19:26.07 | JeffM2501 | they gave me a PT cruser |
19:26.27 | findlay | how was it? |
19:26.50 | spldart | hehe |
19:27.00 | JeffM2501 | it's odd |
19:27.12 | JeffM2501 | have to see how it's gonna go on the trip tomorow |
19:29.13 | L4m3r | PT loser? :P |
19:29.33 | L4m3r | nah... I_Died_Once has one and likes it |
19:29.34 | JeffM2501 | and what do YOU drive L4m3r ? ;) |
19:29.49 | L4m3r | I drive a Hyundai |
19:29.55 | JeffM2501 | it was ether the cruser or a convertable seebring |
19:30.03 | JeffM2501 | and that would be too cold |
19:30.04 | L4m3r | i.e. a reliable lawn mower, rather than an American one ;) |
19:30.26 | L4m3r | eeek, yes |
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19:31.07 | L4m3r | for some reason my mother insists on getting an F-150 every time she needs a rental, and complains about it the whole way through >_< |
19:31.10 | L4m3r | some people never learn |
19:31.28 | JeffM2501 | eww |
19:31.28 | spldart | My usual rentals are minivans but treated myself to a loaded expedition once for fun |
19:31.32 | L4m3r | seriously |
19:31.45 | JeffM2501 | I didn't want to drive my truck for a long distance so I did a rental |
19:31.56 | JeffM2501 | the PT does have a lot of room inside for stuff |
19:32.02 | findlay | I wouldn't mind a bztank |
19:32.18 | L4m3r | V6 F-150 gets worse mileage than her V8 Titan, and has the turning radius of an aircraft carrier |
19:32.19 | findlay | it would be a little slow until you pick up a high speed flag |
19:32.24 | spldart | with leather enterior :) |
19:32.31 | findlay | and you get to shoot the other cars on the freeway |
19:32.40 | spldart | or steamroll them |
19:32.56 | findlay | and you can jump over stuff |
19:33.03 | L4m3r | JeffM2501: hatchbacks do have an amazing amount of space :) |
19:33.18 | JeffM2501 | the rear seats fold down 2 difrent ways |
19:33.23 | JeffM2501 | and can even come out |
19:33.25 | L4m3r | heh |
19:33.39 | L4m3r | mine just fold down, and that's more than enough |
19:33.56 | spldart | they need to make a v6 sc PT :evil: |
19:34.08 | L4m3r | I've surprised myself more than once with how much I can fit in my Accent |
19:34.08 | spldart | LOL |
19:34.10 | JeffM2501 | these fold down, then can fold up, and come out |
19:34.49 | L4m3r | when I need a lot of room I just remove the passenger seat :P |
19:35.45 | L4m3r | V6 PT... sounds like a waste. Just get a turbo. :P |
19:36.35 | JeffM2501 | heh |
19:36.45 | L4m3r | though someone with too much time/money could probably drop a VW VR6 in there |
19:37.10 | inchworm | what about those b8 miatas? |
19:37.15 | inchworm | b8 -> v8 |
19:37.23 | L4m3r | >_> |
19:37.29 | findlay | front wheel drive? |
19:37.46 | L4m3r | more like front wheel burnout :P |
19:37.47 | inchworm | no rear |
19:37.59 | inchworm | the miata is rwd |
19:38.10 | L4m3r | wee |
19:38.19 | findlay | theres' not much you can fit in the engine compartment of such a diminuitive car |
19:38.26 | JeffM2501 | I can chirp the fronts on the PT |
19:38.31 | inchworm | google has pictures |
19:38.49 | L4m3r | heh, my dad's got most of a bug with a big motor |
19:38.50 | inchworm | JeffM2501: drive it like you stole it? |
19:38.56 | findlay | I can peel out in my subaru ... in the snow |
19:39.09 | L4m3r | the body is crap, though, so he wants to get a dune buggy body |
19:39.33 | L4m3r | fiberglass. :D curb weight would probably be around 1200lbs |
19:39.47 | L4m3r | with 180 or so hp that would be FUN :D |
19:40.29 | spldart | aren't suburu's unibodies? |
19:41.02 | findlay | perhaps |
19:41.22 | spldart | Not much to the frame more than hardpoints to mount drivetrain and suspension |
19:41.41 | spldart | fiberglass dunebuggy body requires full framerails |
19:42.05 | L4m3r | solid body/pan |
19:42.57 | L4m3r | with rear-mounted engine, RWD, and almost no weight, I think the chassis provides enough rigidity |
19:43.44 | CBG | ~blast007++ |
19:43.47 | spldart | perhaps.. but you would have to connect the front and rear frames with some additional rails etc |
19:44.16 | L4m3r | yeah... I'm sure my dad knows what he's doing |
19:44.20 | spldart | even my old dodge dart, also unibody, doesn't have a full frame front to rear |
19:44.41 | L4m3r | lol |
19:44.46 | L4m3r | have you seen a bug pan? |
19:44.52 | spldart | Thus more than 400 hp or so requires welding in subframe connectors |
19:45.46 | spldart | I've seen vw bugs and I've seen alcohol burning chromemoly custome bug's for the sanddunes |
19:45.52 | L4m3r | lol |
19:46.02 | spldart | but bug pan? |
19:46.33 | L4m3r | bug chassis |
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19:46.42 | L4m3r | they're rather solid |
19:47.07 | spldart | bug chassis? as in the old vw or something else? |
19:47.22 | L4m3r | yeah, the old beetle |
19:47.42 | spldart | well that design dates back to WWII... of course it's solid and prolly has full frames |
19:47.51 | L4m3r | there ya go :P |
19:47.54 | spldart | Not to mention the odd ball suspension 8-0 |
19:48.14 | L4m3r | a four-seater dune buggy body drops right on |
19:48.32 | spldart | what do this weight in at stock anywho? |
19:49.13 | L4m3r | lol... maybe 1500lbs? |
19:49.21 | inchworm | bugs have nicely desinged suspension IMO |
19:49.26 | L4m3r | "stock" is hard to call |
19:49.41 | L4m3r | at present it lacks glass or any interior other than a driver |
19:49.43 | L4m3r | s seat |
19:51.41 | spldart | heh |
19:51.55 | spldart | put a porsche boxer 6 in that puppy :) |
19:52.17 | L4m3r | lol |
19:52.27 | findlay | I'm going to add a turbocharger on my car by using the works from a leaf blower |
19:52.29 | L4m3r | nah, that's what the bus crew cab has |
19:53.07 | spldart | your kidding right findlay? |
19:53.15 | findlay | only partially |
19:53.19 | findlay | it might be fun to try |
19:53.30 | findlay | just for the sake of experiment |
19:53.31 | L4m3r | do it the ricer way |
19:53.31 | spldart | 8-0 |
19:53.46 | L4m3r | instead of a turbe, just add a REALLY big hood scoop! |
19:53.51 | inchworm | make it a gas powered leaf plower that sticks out of the hood |
19:53.51 | L4m3r | turbo* |
19:53.58 | findlay | yeah! |
19:54.07 | spldart | big scoop helps from about 35 mph up |
19:54.10 | inchworm | put a scoop going into the intake |
19:54.16 | spldart | big boost @ 60 mph up |
19:54.22 | spldart | I had done that |
19:54.38 | inchworm | how do you keep bugs out of your intake thought? |
19:54.38 | findlay | but, of course, the hood scoop does nothing but degrade your gas mileage if it's fake |
19:54.45 | findlay | that always gets me |
19:54.49 | spldart | but what I did is put two intakes just inside each headlamp behind the grill |
19:54.50 | L4m3r | heh |
19:55.01 | findlay | why do people buy cars with fake hood/brake scoops? |
19:55.17 | spldart | scoups need a place for the bugs to fall around or short of the filter |
19:55.39 | L4m3r | same reason they put hugeass wings and snowplow bumpers on 'em |
19:55.43 | L4m3r | they're dumb |
19:55.55 | biggeruniverse | I'll buy your babble |
19:56.06 | findlay | the shopping cart handle technique? |
19:56.19 | inchworm | they but tiny wheels on cars around here |
19:56.24 | inchworm | s/but/put |
19:56.33 | inchworm | make them stick out the sides too |
19:56.40 | L4m3r | heh |
19:56.44 | L4m3r | yeah, I've seen that |
19:56.48 | inchworm | then you wonder why all the speed bumps have divots in them |
19:56.49 | findlay | wierd |
19:56.55 | findlay | guess that hasn't caught on here yet |
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19:57.10 | findlay | I like the speed jumps |
19:57.25 | findlay | they're like speed bumps but widened out to about 2 meters |
19:57.27 | L4m3r | get a "stepside" F-150, put on huge fender flares and running boards, and tiny wheels... o_O I don't get it |
19:57.30 | findlay | fun to jump on |
19:57.43 | shaunott | i have a question about texture mapping |
19:57.45 | inchworm | heh, especially on motorcycles |
19:57.58 | findlay | never tried it on a motorcycle |
19:58.42 | shaunott | when you connect to my server it says cannot find texture |
19:58.42 | spldart | where is your texture? |
19:58.44 | shaunott | i have put in cfg texture /usr/share/doc/bzflag/tree |
19:58.53 | spldart | I seem to remember that generically the client only grabs textures from safe url or 2 or 3... |
19:59.00 | shaunott | ive tried with or without the directory |
19:59.13 | shaunott | does the texture have to be online? |
19:59.21 | spldart | and your .bzw says to look in your local dir? |
19:59.43 | shaunott | well the png is in the same folder as the bzw |
20:00.02 | shaunott | ive tried putting texture tree |
20:00.12 | shaunott | and texture /usr/share/doc/bzflag/tree |
20:00.12 | CBG | ~blast007++ |
20:00.14 | spldart | I remember when I first started playing with textures I found that I couldn't make it work cuz clients don't allow downloading from whatever url to grab the texture so I got broken textures |
20:00.38 | shaunott | should i upload the image |
20:00.50 | shaunott | and put texture http://..... |
20:00.56 | spldart | You may need to upload... |
20:01.14 | biggeruniverse | ~karma blast007 |
20:01.14 | ibot | blast007 has karma of 99 |
20:01.20 | biggeruniverse | goodness |
20:01.30 | findlay | ~blast007++ |
20:01.35 | spldart | but not sure if any other peoples clients will see it unless it's a bzflag site texture or the clients options are set to trust the url you enter |
20:01.39 | findlay | ~karma blast007 |
20:01.39 | ibot | blast007 has karma of 100 |
20:01.47 | findlay | this stupid mouse |
20:01.48 | shaunott | ok |
20:01.50 | biggeruniverse | one user one vote |
20:01.54 | shaunott | thanks ill try it |
20:02.02 | spldart | If I were you I'd find a url ofa texture that you can see on another map... temp try that textyure on your tree |
20:02.17 | spldart | if it works then get your texture uploaded |
20:02.25 | findlay | biggeruniverse: this mouse sometimes does a double middle click. It's very annoying |
20:02.38 | biggeruniverse | heh |
20:02.43 | shaunott | ok |
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20:02.54 | biggeruniverse | ~shaunott++ |
20:03.00 | biggeruniverse | heh |
20:03.25 | biggeruniverse | karma systems only work if people don't abuse them... |
20:03.28 | findlay | ~karma findlay |
20:03.28 | ibot | findlay has karma of 2 |
20:03.34 | biggeruniverse | ~findlay++ |
20:03.52 | biggeruniverse | ~karma findlay |
20:03.52 | ibot | findlay has karma of 3 |
20:03.56 | biggeruniverse | woot! |
20:03.58 | spldart | ~karma spldart |
20:03.58 | ibot | spldart has karma of 6 |
20:04.13 | biggeruniverse | ~karma ibot |
20:04.13 | ibot | ibot has karma of 17 |
20:04.22 | spldart | ~ibot++ |
20:04.33 | biggeruniverse | go ibot! you're not even a person and you've got good karma |
20:04.41 | inchworm | hehe |
20:04.58 | biggeruniverse | maybe you'll be reincarnated as a physics engine |
20:05.07 | inchworm | :) |
20:05.16 | inchworm | but that would be more work than an irc bot |
20:05.29 | findlay | ibot: are you lazy? |
20:05.32 | biggeruniverse | more work doesn't mean bad |
20:05.36 | inchworm | :) |
20:05.41 | biggeruniverse | apparently he is |
20:05.46 | biggeruniverse | *(s)he |
20:05.51 | inchworm | ~8ball is ibot lazy |
20:05.52 | ibot | Please ask again. |
20:06.01 | biggeruniverse | ibot: are you a boy or a girl |
20:06.08 | inchworm | ~8ball |
20:06.10 | ibot | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Yes |
20:06.15 | biggeruniverse | right |
20:06.22 | biggeruniverse | well, can't argue with that |
20:06.52 | inchworm | i guess ibot is whatever you put the screen reader at :) |
20:07.25 | biggeruniverse | ~weather |
20:07.34 | inchworm | only a couple more gigs, then linux reinstall |
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20:07.42 | inchworm | ~weather kalm |
20:08.23 | biggeruniverse | ~wtf |
20:08.29 | inchworm | ? |
20:08.47 | biggeruniverse | ~wtf iirc |
20:09.04 | spldart | ~ksgr |
20:09.06 | biggeruniverse | if I *remember* correctly |
20:09.07 | biggeruniverse | gawd |
20:09.14 | spldart | ~weather ksgr |
20:09.29 | biggeruniverse | ~news |
20:10.18 | biggeruniverse | ~lobotomy |
20:10.20 | ibot | I feel different somehow. |
20:10.24 | biggeruniverse | why? |
20:10.33 | AAA_awright | ~why |
20:10.34 | ibot | Because! |
20:10.42 | AAA_awright | ~becausewhy |
20:10.57 | AAA_awright | > because because! |
20:11.12 | biggeruniverse | right |
20:11.49 | spldart | because because because because... because of the wonderful things he does |
20:12.32 | AAA_awright | ~becausewhy |
20:12.33 | ibot | it has been said that becausewhy is Because Because! |
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20:22.02 | L4m3r | ~weather kttv |
20:22.06 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v tupone] by ChanServ |
20:25.05 | L4m3r | ~weather KLAX |
20:39.01 | tannerld | ~weather KGVL |
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21:08.06 | spldart | WoooHooo! Winxp sp1 sp2 and most drivers done, debian base, grub done back to win for more drivers |
21:15.00 | inchworm | ooo the pain |
21:15.51 | inchworm | ok, i finally got my homespace backed up and the xorg.conf file. anything i'm missing? |
21:20.59 | inchworm | i want my kernel configs! |
21:27.43 | spldart | */old 'lost in space' "The pain! The pain..."* |
21:28.00 | inchworm | heh |
21:28.54 | spldart | I'm so close to playing bzflag again I can taste/smell it |
21:29.14 | inchworm | hehe |
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21:43.49 | spldart | I think I'll go gnome again |
21:53.47 | inchworm | hmm |
21:53.53 | inchworm | dunno what my preference is anymore |
21:54.26 | inchworm | give me something with either a terminal or easy access to xterm and i'm generally happy |
21:54.44 | inchworm | some of the kde utilities aren't bad |
21:54.49 | inchworm | but i'm not liking arts |
21:55.04 | inchworm | and i dislike the gnome file open dialog boxes |
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22:09.27 | spldart | I'm generally a fluxbox on slow machines and gnome on fast machines kinda dude |
22:09.46 | inchworm | fluxbox isn't bad |
22:09.56 | inchworm | i use gnome at work on a solaris 10 box |
22:10.09 | inchworm | both are fully usable |
22:10.16 | inchworm | but favorite, i don't have one yet |
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22:27.34 | spldart | mental note... fresh xp sp2 requires 67 critical updates |
22:27.53 | spldart | and we all know windows bandwidth >8-0 |
22:28.25 | spldart | err update.microsoft.com |
22:29.25 | inchworm | hehe |
22:29.54 | inchworm | they need to have iso's on their site of the latest version so you don't have to download all the patches, righ? |
22:30.16 | spldart | p |
22:30.16 | spldart | have done winxpsp2, deb,gnome, drivers and modules |
22:30.25 | spldart | hehe |
22:30.27 | spldart | yeah |
22:30.27 | inchworm | i'm downloading deb now |
22:30.36 | inchworm | chose desktop in the install |
22:30.48 | spldart | At least we aren't competing for bandwidth ;-) |
22:30.53 | inchworm | so i'll find out what i get, it'll be a surpise :) |
22:31.01 | inchworm | i'm pulling from nd.edu |
22:31.09 | spldart | oh nm |
22:31.15 | spldart | debian.mirrors.org for me |
22:31.21 | spldart | for |
22:31.23 | spldart | updates |
22:31.24 | inchworm | giving me 200+kB/s |
22:31.30 | inchworm | so i'm happy |
22:31.46 | spldart | I had got 600+ on some sites but averaged 450+ on most of the others |
22:31.54 | inchworm | debian couldn't do dhcp for some reason |
22:32.00 | inchworm | dunno why |
22:32.21 | inchworm | the driver was there, and i've never had issues before |
22:32.35 | inchworm | manually configured and now it's pulling happily |
22:32.37 | inchworm | eh |
22:32.43 | spldart | :dunno: |
22:32.52 | inchworm | 200+ is about max bandwidth for me |
22:33.04 | inchworm | i think 300 is the highest i've ever seen |
22:33.15 | spldart | cable uncapped us when they got into a war with dsl provider |
22:33.22 | inchworm | in other words, nice connection ;) |
22:33.27 | inchworm | hehe |
22:33.49 | spldart | I used to be 350 down |
22:34.37 | spldart | Yah know... that had got me to thinking about 30 minutes ago... How much bandwidth that is compared to isdn 128 (me 00/01) and 56K (me pre 00) |
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22:36.44 | inchworm | heh i went from bad dialup to this, so i'm very happy |
22:36.45 | maquis | we're having a bit of trouble getting bzflag to run correctly on an older ibook running osx tiger. we're using bzflag 2.0.8 |
22:36.53 | maquis | has anybody seen this problem before |
22:37.02 | maquis | ? |
22:37.13 | inchworm | describe problem better please |
22:37.21 | inchworm | graphics, sounds, etc? |
22:37.27 | inchworm | what is the problem? |
22:37.38 | maquis | the graphics are all messed up. ie, when you get to the menu, you can't read any of the options.. |
22:37.54 | maquis | so, i quit out and tried again, and that time, the graphics wouldn't even come up... it was just a black screen with a blue line |
22:38.08 | maquis | and i had to power-off to get out (not very good with macs... i'm used to linux) |
22:38.20 | spldart | also adjust your wait time up alot in this channel.... knowleadgable peeps come and go but the wait might be a bit |
22:39.06 | spldart | did bz see sdl? |
22:39.08 | inchworm | i'm thinking graphics driver, or an older chip that doesn't support graphics |
22:39.33 | inchworm | or at least accelerated 3d |
22:39.44 | spldart | any other gl games work on that machine? |
22:40.12 | maquis | inchworm: we've had other games play on it... |
22:40.30 | maquis | i've never tried bzflag on it, before though |
22:40.33 | inchworm | opengl ones? |
22:40.45 | inchworm | eg 3d? |
22:40.54 | maquis | inchworm: i don't think so |
22:41.05 | maquis | the apple graphics card should support their own cards, though... i'd think... |
22:41.08 | spldart | that's important.. |
22:41.16 | spldart | the problem might be bigger than bzflag itself |
22:41.26 | inchworm | but if it is old enough the graphics chip wont have the accelerated features |
22:41.35 | maquis | inchworm: true |
22:41.37 | inchworm | and everything will be done in software |
22:41.47 | inchworm | what does it say in the about this mac thing |
22:41.50 | spldart | if you can't get any opengl games to work then this could be hardware not up to task or don't support loaded |
22:41.52 | inchworm | for the graphics |
22:42.19 | maquis | ok... thanks a ton |
22:42.21 | spldart | meh... inchworm has the ball :) |
22:42.48 | inchworm | spldart you have been here longer :) |
22:43.07 | spldart | That just means I'm an OLD n00b |
22:43.09 | spldart | lolol |
22:43.41 | inchworm | heh my mac experience is all of 15 minutes i think |
22:43.59 | inchworm | maybe it's 30 minutes |
22:44.24 | inchworm | btw, looks like i'm getting kde from the packages debian is pulling down |
22:44.25 | spldart | mine is what I've gleemed off of here ... was able to help one other with mac sdl problems once |
22:44.31 | spldart | hehe |
22:44.58 | spldart | I'm currently loading ie7 for windows for the first time...even though I'll probably just use mozilla for windows by tomorrow |
22:45.02 | inchworm | hmm kde 3.3 |
22:45.14 | inchworm | so where did i choose stable from? |
22:46.03 | spldart | meh... dunno... you got a 3.1r4 right?> |
22:47.46 | inchworm | debian-31r4-i386-netinst.iso |
22:48.04 | inchworm | and then just kept the defaults through out |
22:48.14 | inchworm | except for networking |
22:48.22 | spldart | that's stable... Your /etc/apt/sources.list will also contain stable thus all downloads are stable |
22:48.36 | inchworm | ahh |
22:48.44 | inchworm | well, maybe stable will be good enough |
22:49.07 | inchworm | or maybe i'm going to be doing alot more downloading tomorrow |
22:49.16 | spldart | if you want etch or unstable you have to either download that iso or change your sources.list and do apt-get dist-upgrade |
22:49.20 | spldart | I don't suggest that |
22:49.29 | spldart | unstable sometimes bites hard! |
22:49.35 | inchworm | hmm |
22:49.43 | inchworm | ok, i'll stick stable for nwo |
22:49.46 | inchworm | *now |
22:49.50 | spldart | sometimes though it works nicely |
22:49.55 | inchworm | i'm kinda just want it to work for right now |
22:50.08 | inchworm | i'm tiried of subtly broken stuff |
22:50.30 | inchworm | of course in hind sight it was my own fault |
22:50.33 | inchworm | but still :) |
22:50.39 | spldart | well stable equal X11 and testing unstable = X.org... that's the main diff for me and main drawback.. but for stablility just stick to X11 call it good |
22:51.09 | spldart | like I said though.. if later you want change your /etc/apt/sources.list... at your own risk |
22:51.19 | inchworm | sounds like a plan, thanks |
22:51.22 | spldart | k |
22:55.48 | inchworm | wow openoffice 1.1.3 living the bleeding edge here folks |
22:55.54 | inchworm | :E |
22:56.11 | spldart | LOL |
22:56.22 | spldart | deb stable is a touch out of date :( |
22:56.27 | inchworm | lol |
22:56.33 | spldart | but deb has some advantages too.. IMO |
22:56.45 | spldart | Oh well |
22:56.50 | inchworm | yah, i'll live with it awhile and see what is good or bad |
22:57.08 | spldart | Yah know it's partially JeffM' |
22:57.11 | spldart | s fault |
22:57.17 | inchworm | hmm. how? |
22:57.21 | spldart | I'm on debian so much.... but partially mine too |
22:57.46 | spldart | He like it and it's easy to set up... and other stuff is based off it... Ubuntu, Knoppix... others |
22:58.32 | spldart | I had tried alot of distro's 2.. but more as a general user and found that led me to like the ease of debian... Its wher I cut my 'terminal' teeth |
22:59.30 | inchworm | hehe |
22:59.53 | inchworm | caldera is where i started |
22:59.57 | inchworm | then slackware |
23:00.02 | inchworm | then various stuff |
23:00.26 | inchworm | most have been ok, except for SuSE |
23:00.39 | inchworm | it's at school and work, and i dislike it |
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23:06.39 | spldart | I started on Lycoris :-0 |
23:07.17 | inchworm | woohoo |
23:07.23 | inchworm | never heard of it :D |
23:16.55 | spldart | lol |
23:17.30 | spldart | sorry distracted... doin the most dangerous portion of the windows setup... ATI All in Wonder drivers, control center, multimedia center |
23:17.43 | spldart | one wrong move and YOUR HOSED! |
23:19.05 | inchworm | hehe |
23:19.11 | inchworm | i'm downloading ati driver now |
23:19.16 | inchworm | drivers |
23:19.33 | spldart | Poop... cli.exe failed to initialize properly... meh |
23:19.36 | inchworm | is there a debian package of the latest ati drivers? |
23:19.47 | inchworm | or stable ati drivers :P |
23:21.52 | spldart | nope |
23:22.00 | spldart | gotta get them from ati... good luck with that |
23:22.10 | inchworm | heh thanks |
23:22.14 | spldart | ati isn't lettingme download righnt now |
23:22.34 | spldart | if I remember right it needs kernel headers source etc.... |
23:22.54 | spldart | ati's new leecher prevention stuff is blocking my getting latest drivers is all I meant |
23:27.38 | inchworm | ok, ati stuff went very smooth |
23:27.51 | inchworm | ran the installer, did ati-config |
23:28.05 | inchworm | added a few lines to XF86config and tada |
23:28.57 | inchworm | hmm except i don't have acceleration yet |
23:36.26 | spldart | hehehe |
23:36.54 | spldart | I have a 9200 on my work rig and accel just quit.... dunno why yet |
23:37.12 | spldart | agpgart loaded? |
23:37.17 | spldart | dri? |
23:37.21 | spldart | sdl? |
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23:39.02 | spldart | hit it, kick it, yell at it... "BREAK" |
23:42.00 | inchworm | yah, spldart, gotta have the kernel source |
23:43.32 | spldart | HEH |
23:48.38 | spldart | finally... got some ati downloads running |
23:50.51 | inchworm | heh, getting there |
23:51.22 | inchworm | ok, new kernel from 386 to 686 :) |
23:51.25 | inchworm | and the headers |
23:55.47 | spldart | :P |
23:56.47 | spldart | we may be seeing a user who want to report a bug on the HEAD client in bit.. something about X crashes when closing... Just a heads up |
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