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05:11.04FlashCBG: ping
05:17.20L4m3rhe went to bed. it's like 5AM where he is.
05:17.32Flashbummer
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09:04.43LePoulpe303hi bzworld
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13:42.46LePoulpe303anyone can help me about how to call weblogin from a program to retrieve player token ?
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14:55.51[dmp]LePoulpe303: try looking at these: http://dennis.moellegaard.dk/tmp/weblogin/index.php + http://dennis.moellegaard.dk/tmp/weblogin/index.phps
14:56.25[dmp]LePoulpe303: the rest is just syntax :)
14:57.09[dmp]LePoulpe303: and keep in mind that tokens only work one time. if you check it twice, it will fail the 2nd time
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14:57.56A-Delusionone more thing bluer..
14:58.08A-Delusionwhy don't you run the red crosses map
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14:58.31A-Delusionit has things in it designed for experimentation
14:58.54A-Delusionaww crap, wron channel
15:05.37LePoulpe303[dmp]: thanks a lot !!!!
15:07.33LePoulpe303[dmp]: but i don't know if it's usable from a software point of view, and now from a website
15:07.40LePoulpe303now > not
15:10.14LePoulpe303my problem is not : how do i connect with the token ,but, how do i retrieve the token
15:11.42[dmp]oh
15:12.00LePoulpe303how to use the token will come later ;)
15:12.00[dmp]same way bzflag client does it :)
15:12.33LePoulpe303i looked to the word "token" and "weblogin" in all cxx files but didn't find anything probant
15:12.54LePoulpe303omg i speak really bad english today
15:13.04LePoulpe303get out of my body jamaican
15:13.45[dmp]did you look at ClientAuthentication.h/cxx ?
15:14.52LePoulpe303if it contains the word "token" or "weblogin" , yes :D
15:15.04[dmp]it dosnt :)
15:15.35LePoulpe303lol
15:15.44LePoulpe303huh
15:15.54LePoulpe303this file is really scary
15:17.04LePoulpe303i could avoid registered player conection if i have a mean to know if a player is regged (and get his ID) or not
15:17.30LePoulpe303i only need this f.cking token for /IDLIST command
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15:21.03LePoulpe303kerberos protocol
15:21.28LePoulpe303where bzflag will throw me today ? :)
15:22.00[dmp]:)
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15:29.55LePoulpe303[dmp]: damned, no probant krb5 python implementation :S
15:30.48[dmp]LePoulpe303: not even http://www.google.com/search?q=kerberos+python ?
15:31.58LePoulpe303most in development or abandonned things
15:32.15[dmp]urgh
15:33.10[dmp]im just surprised if kerberos is not supported by python
15:33.21LePoulpe303so do i
15:33.39LePoulpe303something is actually in development for ubuntu project
15:38.26LePoulpe303ok i must find another way to get these IDs
15:39.12DTRemenakdo not use kerberos, it's broken
15:39.47DTRemenakeverything can be done with http post
15:45.21DTRemenaktoken retreval is done via action=LIST
15:46.24DTRemenakServerList::checkEchos sends the request, ServerList::readServerList parses the reply
15:48.27DTRemenakbut the parsing should be obvious...just look at http://my.bzflag.org/db/?action=LIST&version=BZFS0026&callsign=<callsign>&password=<password>
15:50.11DTRemenaktypically you should send the parameters via post instead of get, to avoid being printed in every log from here to china
15:52.16DTRemenakLePoulpe303: you still here?
15:54.58[dmp]sorry LePoulpe303, seems like i've misguided you :)
15:57.34blast007or getter, use action=GETTOKEN
15:57.45blast007better*
15:57.58LePoulpe303DTRemenak: yeah :)
15:58.36LePoulpe303DTRemenak: great thing ! i test it immediatly !!
15:58.55LePoulpe303[dmp]: no problem , i learned things about kerberos ;)
16:02.08LePoulpe303DTRemenak: yeeeeeehaaaa
16:03.56LePoulpe303ok next step, send token to get identified ; just another day of work ;)
16:08.46DTRemenakthat part's easy...see ServerLink::sendEnter :)
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16:16.41LePoulpe303i already connect ; just have to put the token at the right place
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16:47.17LePoulpe303i think i never saw so much c++ lines in my entire life
16:47.28LePoulpe303than since 1 month
16:47.59LePoulpe303if this continues, i even risk to understand what they are for
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16:48.47CBGhey LePoulpe303 :)
16:48.58LePoulpe303hey cbg ;)
16:50.08LePoulpe303cbg : did u ttry the mini hix map by ducatiwannabe ?
16:51.32CBGnope..
16:51.35LePoulpe303DTRemenak: have you an ide of the value of EmailLen and TokenLen ? my packet sniffing tell me sum is 151 but i d'ont know more
16:51.51LePoulpe303cbg : do you have 5 mins ?
16:53.01CBGsure
16:53.03LePoulpe303hmm rather 150 in fact
16:53.15LePoulpe303cbg : bzflag.sytes.net : 5155
16:53.20ErroneousEmailLen = 128
16:53.26ErroneousTokenLen = 22
16:53.27CBGok
16:53.34Erroneousfrom global.h
17:02.00LePoulpe303CBG : very sorry !
17:02.12LePoulpe303cbg : boss alert
17:02.24CBGLePoulpe303: np :)
17:03.09LePoulpe303they let me cool all the afternoon, i want to have a break 5 mins , and , Blang :!
17:03.09LePoulpe303Erroneous: ty ! :)
17:03.09Erroneousnp
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17:13.05LePoulpe303Erroneous: the token i get from websaite is 18 character long
17:13.14Erroneousyup
17:13.19Erroneousor less, potentially
17:13.21LePoulpe303i lpad with 0
17:13.24LePoulpe303?
17:13.57Erroneouspad with null
17:13.57LePoulpe303left or right ?
17:13.57Erroneousright...it's just a string
17:14.08Erroneousdo the same thing as you do for short emails or callsigns
17:15.14LePoulpe303it's already ok for callsign
17:15.22LePoulpe303i try to log in a registered bot now
17:16.03LePoulpe303global login rejected , bad token :S
17:16.10LePoulpe303i must have missed something
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17:17.57LePoulpe303ok time to go back home
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18:05.27L4m3rum, if someone would kindly remove the faked Britney Spears porn from the help:tactics forum...
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18:05.45L4m3rer, my bad, screenshots
18:07.33tsI thought they love shakira ;)
18:11.22JeffM2501k
18:11.44JeffM2501too much laughing at PS3 reviews
18:11.51L4m3rErroneous is already on it...
18:11.55JeffM2501k
18:12.17L4m3rjust two more, one in map making discussions and one in masterbot... the account has been deleted already
18:13.17L4m3rthere's no save haven now, either. Recently the bots started cracking vBulletin's captcha.
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18:18.36JeffM2501L4m3r, these arn't even going thru the reg system
18:18.44JeffM2501they are posting as a guest
18:18.50L4m3rrofl
18:19.09L4m3rno they're not, they're guests because DTR deleted the account to stop it from posting any more
18:19.13tsNo, they had a name first
18:19.14JeffM2501nope
18:19.15JeffM2501ahh
18:19.20JeffM2501well some are posting as guests
18:19.25JeffM2501it's happend before, a lot
18:19.29L4m3ryeah
18:19.31tsthen the account got deleted and the name changed to guest
18:19.46JeffM2501that's why I delete the account LAST ;)
18:20.08Erroneoushm, I thought I got all his posts
18:20.15Erroneousone of them had embedded images
18:20.19JeffM2501my steps are, ban IP
18:20.27JeffM2501hit the profile for the user
18:20.29JeffM2501list posts
18:20.31JeffM2501kill posts
18:20.38JeffM2501kill account
18:20.45JeffM2501ban email subdomain
18:20.58ErroneousI open everything in tabs...ip in a tab, user manager in a tab, ban manager in a tab, post list in a tab
18:21.17Erroneousthen I copy the ip and email to the ban man, ban, delete account, delete posts
18:21.19JeffM2501yeah I do that, but open then user's profile too
18:21.29JeffM2501it'll have a quick list of the posts
18:21.38JeffM2501makes finding them cake
18:22.26Erroneousyeah, that's what I mean by post list
18:22.32Erroneous"find all posts by ..."
18:22.35JeffM2501yeah
18:22.48Erroneousmaybe there was more than one page, didn't think of that
18:23.23JeffM2501had more then 25?
18:23.34L4m3rit's like it knew what you were doing... all those posts seemed to appear as you logged on, DTR
18:23.35Erroneous'twas a lot
18:23.44JeffM2501what was the e-mail?
18:23.50JeffM2501a unique domain?
18:24.40Erroneousone of the asldfjkawhotieaokhgasdgijopiawer.info one
18:25.01JeffM2501I usualy just ban the entire thing
18:25.06ErroneousI did
18:25.09JeffM2501tho I'm in the mind to ban all .info emails
18:25.14Erroneousthought about that
18:25.21Erroneousbut wondered if some bz person had a .info
18:25.22JeffM2501and anything from russia
18:25.30Erroneoushm, russia is unbanned?
18:25.46JeffM2501from an e-mail address standpoint, I don't think it was ever baned
18:25.59JeffM2501I don't know if those work
18:26.03JeffM2501in phpp
18:26.11Erroneouswhy wouldn't they?
18:26.18JeffM2501cus phpbb sucks :)
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18:28.25L4m3r"While I was waiting for a Wii someone actually jumped on my head. As if that wasn't enough, he then threw a turtle shell at me." -/.
18:31.00JeffM2501I only half heartedly looked for a wii this weekend
18:33.59L4m3rI didn't bother... like I have $250? :P
18:34.28JeffM2501I need something to do from wednesday to sunday
18:36.06JeffM2501and all they gave me was a little girly laptop
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18:46.28Erroneousgirly laptop?
18:47.05JeffM2501pentium M 1.5 with a radeon 9200
18:48.17JeffM2501it won't run DDO or neverwinter nights
18:48.26JeffM2501and it's all skinny
18:48.29Erroneousheh
18:48.50JeffM2501compared to those big boxy dells
18:49.30JeffM2501you should look at the laptop that Chris H has at his desk, if you want to see a masculine laptop
18:49.38JeffM2501it's a large heavy black box
18:51.55Erroneousheh
18:52.02CBGyeah, 'cause wanting to carry round a heap of junk is the best way to show your masculinity ;)
18:57.09JeffM2501no it's not YOURs, it's the gender of the device
18:57.27JeffM2501I kinda like this little curvy laptop
18:57.47JeffM2501using objects to reenforce your gender is just overcompensating
18:57.54JeffM2501huge SUV anyone?
18:58.20Erroneouswhat does that say about the little old ladies who drive huge suv's? :)
18:58.48JeffM2501they let there husbands buy the cars
18:58.52tsIs my white ibook 12" female then?
18:59.05JeffM2501all apple products are androgonos
18:59.10JeffM2501that's why they scare some people
18:59.13Erroneousheh
18:59.23JeffM2501except the toilet seat ibook
18:59.30JeffM2501that one was just fruty
18:59.42ts~spell androgonos
18:59.46Erroneousandrogynous
19:00.04CBGfruity*
19:00.04tsI'm looking at my dict :/
19:00.34Erroneoushaving characteristics of both genders
19:00.47JeffM2501or unable to tell gender
19:00.55JeffM2501like the heros from most final fantasy games
19:01.35tsUmm, the Power Mac/Mac Pro is rather heavy..if devices have genders I would say it is male :p
19:02.02JeffM2501yeah but it looks good doing it
19:02.07JeffM2501it's the butch bulldyke ;)
19:02.09Erroneousit's just metro :P
19:02.16JeffM2501or a chesse grater
19:02.32JeffM2501yeah, metro is a good word for the powermac
19:02.45JeffM2501heh
19:02.47tshehe
19:03.02JeffM2501the lappy case Jer gave me for this thing is kinda cool
19:03.05JeffM2501all nice and thin
19:03.12JeffM2501tis a good travel notebook
19:03.31Erroneouscool
19:04.32JeffM2501better then the heavy old insperon 8500
19:04.38JeffM2501better screen res too
19:04.47JeffM25011600x1200 is hard to see on a 15incher
19:07.44Erroneouswow
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21:24.56uso1600x1200 on a 15" screen is a halfway usable resolution, though you still see the pixels, i still love my old dell lappy for this display
21:26.05usonobody would reclaim about a 300 (or more) dpi printer, the only problem is that some OS are unable to handle high display resolutions ;)
21:28.35JeffM2501and the fact that for display reses that high the ram requirements would be rather ridculous for the benifit
21:31.55usowith recent graphics cards with 128+ mb and main memory in GB regions? ;)
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21:32.55usoi would spend it to take care of my eyes
21:33.47Bookwormhey...there are some bots on borrego.hepcat.org
21:33.50Bookwormis that allowed?
21:34.37Bookwormthe name was "nebnagor" with numbers after it...
21:36.13JeffM2501depends what the server owner wants to allow
21:36.54Bookwormah...well i thought it wasn't allowed...or at least it wasn't before...
21:37.02Bookwormhe is gone now..
21:37.16Bookwormi did a poll to kick him...but then a few min later he came back..
21:37.20Bookwormbut he is gone again..
21:37.42JeffM2501just send a report to the owner
21:38.11usothe welcome message says no bots, but _disableBots is set to false, somewhat inconsistent
21:38.50Bookwormi dont know how to send a report...
21:39.49JeffM2501/report
21:40.04Bookwormoh
21:40.49Bookwormthanks
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23:04.54L4m3r_seriously
23:04.54Erroneousgah?
23:05.17Erroneousahh
23:05.17JeffM2501Erroneous, gee I wonder why he never comes in THIS channel to talk about that stuff?
23:05.25Erroneousprobably afraid of the rest of the devs :)
23:05.37JeffM2501and people would bring up his past
23:05.40brlcadphear them scary peeples
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23:07.20JeffM2501mostly I'm guessing he fears ts
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23:07.51Erroneousthen he should use vent ;)
23:07.59L4m3rhis past?
23:08.14JeffM2501difrent ts ;)
23:08.39ErroneousI know ;)
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